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Seaweedpimp
09-29-2010, 10:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoGkDtPqtbY

This dude... whooooooo!

Messianic
09-29-2010, 10:48 AM
No.

Seaweedpimp
09-29-2010, 11:00 AM
Nice!

Seaweedpimp
09-29-2010, 11:01 AM
What about this ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG5Fli2pYBo&feature=related

Completely different. you might like that..

hedbonker
09-29-2010, 11:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzUPG8olnO0

Omnimorph
09-29-2010, 11:51 AM
OMG I love metal!!!! Magnesium is my favourite XD

Fawqueue
09-29-2010, 11:54 AM
Gotta go with Adamantium. Sure, I know it doesn't exist. But the most badass fake metal is better than the "bleh" metals we have to choose from now.

Omnimorph
09-29-2010, 11:57 AM
Gotta go with Adamantium. Sure, I know it doesn't exist. But the most badass fake metal is better than the "bleh" metals we have to choose from now.

Clearly you haven't played with magnesium ribbon enough!!!

Hasbinbad
09-29-2010, 12:37 PM
I like HEAVY metal, so naturally I am drawn to plutonium.

hueylewis187
09-29-2010, 01:14 PM
95.7 the ROCK!

Hell Yeah < the band is pretty good.

Yes I still listen to metal mainly and yes there is still good rock n roll out there!! It's not just screaming. Just most people listen to country or radio hip hop. But the rock is still out there if you look for it.

Seaweedpimp
09-29-2010, 02:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLyvn5tvkJo

Messianic
09-29-2010, 02:34 PM
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Messianic
09-29-2010, 02:35 PM
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Gosh i'm dumb. No embedding here i guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmTkFGdsxb8

Messianic
09-29-2010, 02:36 PM
"That drummer, from Def Leppard? Cut his arm off - that was a warning."

lol

Seaweedpimp
09-29-2010, 02:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzUPG8olnO0

LOL

Seaweedpimp
09-29-2010, 02:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8EaSOWJW5s&feature=related

^^^^^^^^^^^^ this

Droxx
09-29-2010, 03:09 PM
I like HEAVY metal, so naturally I am drawn to plutonium.

More like lead and mercury.

Zexa
09-29-2010, 03:23 PM
I've been known to dabble in a little metallurgy. I handle cadmium daily(I like to live dangerous) and I think that's pretty heavy.

...But why the shitty music?

purist
09-29-2010, 03:30 PM
Why is this in Rants and Flames though?

Tiarnan
09-29-2010, 04:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6NXnLv9pj4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCY3dUSQ-y4&feature=related

Abacab niggah
09-29-2010, 04:27 PM
Seaweed only knows obscure black metal which makes him a terrible source to go to for all your metallic needs.

Send me a PM for obscure sludge/stoner metal though

Troy
09-29-2010, 04:55 PM
Maiden > *

Bodeanicus
09-29-2010, 04:57 PM
Christ, could you guys be any more stereotypical?
Unemployed? Check.
Stoner? Check.
Social retardation? Check.
/btard? Check.
"Metalhead?" Check.

Hasbinbad
09-29-2010, 05:34 PM
More like lead and mercury.
http://designhouse147.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/periodic_table_of_elements.jpg

The atomic weight of lead is 207, mercury is 200. Plutonium's atomic weight is 244, and according to some scientists is the heaviest metal which naturally occurs on the planet earth.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=do-transuranic-elements-s
In 1971, Darlene Hoffman of Los Alamos National Laboratory discovered trace quantities of another isotope of plutonium in the environment. Pu-244 was found in Precambrian Age phosphate from southern California. This isotope of plutonium had a radioactive half-life of 80 million years. Scientists have postulated that, because of its long radioactive half-life, this isotope has existed since the creation of Earth about 4.5 billion years ago.

Omnimorph
09-29-2010, 07:15 PM
Well at least i've learnt something from this thread <3

Tork
09-29-2010, 07:50 PM
You've learned Steel Panther is the best band ever?

Bodeanicus
09-29-2010, 08:31 PM
That honor would belong to Spinal Tap.

nalkin
09-29-2010, 08:35 PM
I don't get how anyone can actually enjoy metal. Do you guys like sit in your house and just have it playing? Or like if you are on an airplane you choose to listen to metal on your mp3 player?

Lazortag
09-29-2010, 08:54 PM
I don't get how anyone can actually enjoy metal. Do you guys like sit in your house and just have it playing? Or like if you are on an airplane you choose to listen to metal on your mp3 player?

A lot of bands that are considered metal aren't as "noisy" as the band in the original post. I listen to a lot of metal operas that can be called many things (ridiculously nerdy, hilarious, silly, etc.) but they cannot be called "noisy" (like Ayreon, Star One, Avantasia (although I'm not as huge a fan of them), etc.). I also admit I like a lot of heavier bands and even a little bit of death metal, so I'm not trying to act as though I'm "above" anyone in this thread. Just trying to say that not all metal is unenjoyable noise.

nalkin
09-29-2010, 09:02 PM
A lot of bands that are considered metal aren't as "noisy" as the band in the original post. I listen to a lot of metal operas that can be called many things (ridiculously nerdy, hilarious, silly, etc.) but they cannot be called "noisy" (like Ayreon, Star One, Avantasia (although I'm not as huge a fan of them), etc.). I also admit I like a lot of heavier bands and even a little bit of death metal, so I'm not trying to act as though I'm "above" anyone in this thread. Just trying to say that not all metal is unenjoyable noise.

See with alot of metal, I can see and respect the skill of the musicians in the band and am like "wow they have really good finger dexterity", or "man thats impressive". But as far as choosing to listen to it for enjoyment... I would never do that. And thats what I'm wondering (and you pretty much answered) like when people link these metal songs, do they actually enjoy the music or just think the music is skillful? Because to me those are 2 completely different things and I think that is the same for everyone?

Probably the most metal band I like is Primus or just Les Claypool in general. But even with them, its almost something I wouldn't listen to on my own for enjoyment, but I would link to other people and be like check out this bad ass song.

baub
09-29-2010, 09:17 PM
Guys


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8IuFl3sMhk

^ That is metal

Droxx
09-29-2010, 10:03 PM
http://designhouse147.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/periodic_table_of_elements.jpg

The atomic weight of lead is 207, mercury is 200. Plutonium's atomic weight is 244, and according to some scientists is the heaviest metal which naturally occurs on the planet earth.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=do-transuranic-elements-s

I'm glad you got the joke.

Crover_CT99
09-29-2010, 10:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5_HhqcbF_0

Abacab niggah
09-29-2010, 11:22 PM
ITT: Nerdy powerfags talk about their favorite melodic shit, pretending it's metal.

Seriously bitches let me put you in your place


Sourvein - Bangleaf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTtf1PK4ftE

Zoroaster - Witch Hammer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsYH1Ru32Xc

Graves at Sea - Cirrhosis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA5CQCX8JVI


Skitsystem - System Collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDp8TDWQ4E0&feature=related

Animosity
09-29-2010, 11:27 PM
Abacabb was my hero when I thought he was named after this band :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQiwyRoAnrs

Bodeanicus
09-29-2010, 11:28 PM
Jesus, what a pile of shit. All 4 of those bands don't equal this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-V8kYT1pvE

Abacab niggah
09-29-2010, 11:32 PM
Abacabb was my hero when I thought he was named after this band :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQiwyRoAnrs

Nah, after the Genesis album, which sadly has more talent that that auditory abortion you just linked. It's not that it isn't "hardcore" it's just the fact that it's merely a mediocre metalcore band with a very generic overhashed sound (see: Hatebreed knock-offs)

Animosity
09-29-2010, 11:36 PM
They're actually pretty technical, not Psyopus or Necrophagist technical..but still, they're fun :3

Abacab niggah
09-29-2010, 11:38 PM
Jesus, what a pile of shit. All 4 of those bands don't equal this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-V8kYT1pvE

Bullshit, the only good thing Pantera has ever done was crying about Phil Anselmo and allowing him to pursue interests such as Down. When you stop being 15 years old and shopping at Hot Topic and look at Pantera compared to Down you'd simply realize that Phil made better music by leaps and bounds when he wasn't making redneck tough guy music and got in touch with his Doom metal roots.

But then again you probably have got your mouth heavily latched on Dimebag's dick because he is the "greatest gee-tarist evaaar!!11!!" which I guess is true if you like mindless thrashing.

nalkin
09-29-2010, 11:56 PM
boy I will say that abacab has some rhetoric to him.... In fact I just got an idea

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 12:00 AM
To elaborate I can group metal heads into two separate groups that would most likely dog on each others music simply cause it doesn't fit into their "view" of what heavy metal is. Regardless if your skimming the surface and only listening to big names or you're a underground junkie who thrives on the obscure you'll fit into either these two types:

Techfreaks:
You enjoy metal that is fast, elaborate, and intricate. Melody and technicality is what you view as superior when it comes to heavy metal and you cream your pants when odd time signatures and progressive elements are placed in the song structure. You probably spend quite a bit of money through itunes buying songs by bands such as Necrophagist, Nile, Dream Theater, Opeth and the like.

Genre's most enjoyed:
Thrash metal
Speed Metal
Progressive Metal
NWOBHM
Power/folk Metal
Melodic death Metal

and then there are...

Rifflords:

You enjoy metal for the heaviness, giving hail to the all mighty riff, you specifically look for metal that is heavy on the low-end viewing the ability to crumble stone with sheer volume and lowness as the main focal point of what constitutes as heavy metal. You're most likely to spend large amounts of cash via itunes on bands that have an archaic Black Sabbath sound, bands such as High on Fire, Sleep, Eyehategod, and Electric Wizard take precedence here.

Genres most enjoyed:
Doom Metal
Sludgecore
Stoner Metal/rock
Drone Metal
Ambient/shoegaze
Slam death Metal
Down Tempo
Classic Metal

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 12:14 AM
Bullshit, the only good thing Pantera has ever done was crying about Phil Anselmo and allowing him to pursue interests such as Down. When you stop being 15 years old and shopping at Hot Topic and look at Pantera compared to Down you'd simply realize that Phil made better music by leaps and bounds when he wasn't making redneck tough guy music and got in touch with his Doom metal roots.

But then again you probably have got your mouth heavily latched on Dimebag's dick because he is the "greatest gee-tarist evaaar!!11!!" which I guess is true if you like mindless thrashing.

I'm sorry I offended your hardcore hipster sensibilities. We just can't possibly like anything with Dimebag in it! What would all my identical Jerry Cantrell looking, flannel wearing poser friends think!

By the way, any white dude with dreads deserves to be curb stomped.

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 12:21 AM
To elaborate I can group metal heads into two separate groups that would most likely dog on each others music simply cause it doesn't fit into their "view" of what heavy metal is. Regardless if your skimming the surface and only listening to big names or you're a underground junkie who thrives on the obscure you'll fit into either these two types:

Techfreaks:
You enjoy metal that is fast, elaborate, and intricate. Melody and technicality is what you view as superior when it comes to heavy metal and you cream your pants when odd time signatures and progressive elements are placed in the song structure. You probably spend quite a bit of money through itunes buying songs by bands such as Necrophagist, Nile, Dream Theater, Opeth and the like.

Genre's most enjoyed:
Thrash metal
Speed Metal
Progressive Metal
NWOBHM
Power/folk Metal
Melodic death Metal

and then there are...

Rifflords:

You enjoy metal for the heaviness, giving hail to the all mighty riff, you specifically look for metal that is heavy on the low-end viewing the ability to crumble stone with sheer volume and lowness as the main focal point of what constitutes as heavy metal. You're most likely to spend large amounts of cash via itunes on bands that have an archaic Black Sabbath sound, bands such as High on Fire, Sleep, Eyehategod, and Electric Wizard take precedence here.

Genres most enjoyed:
Doom Metal
Sludgecore
Stoner Metal/rock
Drone Metal
Ambient/shoegaze
Slam death Metal
Down Tempo
Classic Metal

You forgot shitbag, poser wannabes who buy monster rings with their trust fund to pretend to be a musician.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 12:26 AM
I'm sorry I offended your hardcore hipster sensibilities. We just can't possibly like anything with Dimebag in it! What would all my identical Jerry Cantrell looking, flannel wearing poser friends think!

By the way, any white dude with dreads deserves to be curb stomped.

Dimebag and Pantera are terrible, that's not opinion that is fact.

If you think otherwise, I'd suggest going to more metal shows aside from bands that have been on the billboard top 100.

As for white people with dreads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX_4ZnMXmhk

This dude is white as hell and has dreads and kicks more ass, and main lines more heroin then you could ever possibly handle, since he is fuckin' metal incarnate.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 12:30 AM
You forgot shitbag, poser wannabes who buy monster rings with their trust fund to pretend to be a musician.

I'm sorry do you play in a band? Do you have material to post? Have you driven from Indianapolis, IN to the NYC sleeping in a van living off gas station food for days while performing underground shows from the 1511 to the Grey? Do you have a strong regional following from Chicago to Louisville? Cause unless you do, you have little right to criticize my merits.

Hell should I take pictures of my shattered back teeth from fights that broke out involving SxE hardline punks and my band in between sets because I either ran my mouth or they ran their mouth?

Pezmerga
09-30-2010, 12:38 AM
To elaborate I can group metal heads into two separate groups that would most likely dog on each others music simply cause it doesn't fit into their "view" of what heavy metal is. Regardless if your skimming the surface and only listening to big names or you're a underground junkie who thrives on the obscure you'll fit into either these two types:

Techfreaks:
You enjoy metal that is fast, elaborate, and intricate. Melody and technicality is what you view as superior when it comes to heavy metal and you cream your pants when odd time signatures and progressive elements are placed in the song structure. You probably spend quite a bit of money through itunes buying songs by bands such as Necrophagist, Nile, Dream Theater, Opeth and the like.

Genre's most enjoyed:
Thrash metal
Speed Metal
Progressive Metal
NWOBHM
Power/folk Metal
Melodic death Metal

and then there are...

Rifflords:

You enjoy metal for the heaviness, giving hail to the all mighty riff, you specifically look for metal that is heavy on the low-end viewing the ability to crumble stone with sheer volume and lowness as the main focal point of what constitutes as heavy metal. You're most likely to spend large amounts of cash via itunes on bands that have an archaic Black Sabbath sound, bands such as High on Fire, Sleep, Eyehategod, and Electric Wizard take precedence here.

Genres most enjoyed:
Doom Metal
Sludgecore
Stoner Metal/rock
Drone Metal
Ambient/shoegaze
Slam death Metal
Down Tempo
Classic Metal

Subgenres are dumb. I like Categorizing metal like this...
Metallica
Megadeth
Dream Theater
Nightwish
Pantera
etc....
:P

Estolcles
09-30-2010, 12:40 AM
Welp, any respect I mighta had for Abacab, I officially lost.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 12:41 AM
Subgenres are dumb. I like Categorizing metal like this...
Metallica
Megadeth
Dream Theater
Nightwish
Pantera
etc....
:P

I think sub-genre are necessary, because there is a very obvious distinction between let's say Motorhead and OM even though both are "metal" they are total opposites on the spectrum in both sound, style, presence and delivery

Estolcles
09-30-2010, 12:43 AM
I think sub-genre are necessary, because there is a very obvious distinction between let's say Motorhead and OM even though both are "metal" they are total opposites on the spectrum in both sound, style, presence and delivery

Plus: Lemmy > everything else in life

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 12:47 AM
Welp, any respect I mighta had for Abacab, I officially lost.

You had respect to begin with?

I just don't like Pantera, in fact I don't like any metal that strays off from the Black Sabbath formula of skull crushing riffs and wanders into the realms of thrash.

I have a real life friend who is hardcore into Megadeth but he loathes my music simply because he thinks it's just "Drug riddled ambient noise" which he thinks is rather gimmicky because it simply involves around how low you can tune, and how much you can abuse a fuzz-box and how stoned you have to be to actually put up with an hour long drone fest.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 12:54 AM
For example, Stoner metal pioneer's Sleep wrote a song called "Dopesmoker" which clocks in at 1:03:52 which is 90% of the track is composed of C tuned distorted bass running riffs on down-tempo 12/8 signatures... In other words the tempo and the length of the song are equivalent to swimming through tar, and you could drive cross state and the song is still doing bass runs and drum fills

Estolcles
09-30-2010, 12:54 AM
Ab> Well, you can understand where I'm coming from, seeing as I have both Dime as my avatar and a tattoo in memory of him on my back.

I won't say Pantera is the greatest metal band ever, and Dime is the greatest guitarist ever. Both would be highly wrong.

BUT, in the genre of Metal, they were some of the best.

I'd say Mustaine or Satriani are the greatest guitarists ever... and even then, classifying Satriani as metal is kinda pushing the limits a tad.

Although Steve Harris as greatest metal basist probably isn't a stretch.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 12:59 AM
Ab> Well, you can understand where I'm coming from, seeing as I have both Dime as my avatar and a tattoo in memory of him on my back.

I won't say Pantera is the greatest metal band ever, and Dime is the greatest guitarist ever. Both would be highly wrong.

BUT, in the genre of Metal, they were some of the best.

I'd say Mustaine or Satriani are the greatest guitarists ever... and even then, classifying Satriani as metal is kinda pushing the limits a tad.

Although Steve Harris as greatest metal basist probably isn't a stretch.

I think Al Cisneros is one of the greatest bass players along with Dixie Dave Collins simply because their low end is like a 10,000 lb hammer coming down on you.

For best guitarist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4dO-PWX5x4

the tone and the way the riffs are set up are simply howitzer like in how they are delivered

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 01:01 AM
I'm sorry do you play in a band? Do you have material to post? Have you driven from Indianapolis, IN to the NYC sleeping in a van living off gas station food for days while performing underground shows from the 1511 to the Grey? Do you have a strong regional following from Chicago to Louisville? Cause unless you do, you have little right to criticize my merits.

Hell should I take pictures of my shattered back teeth from fights that broke out involving SxE hardline punks and my band in between sets because I either ran my mouth or they ran their mouth?

Stop playing in faggoty, homo erotic shit-metal bands and running your mouth, and you won't get your ass kicked. Yes, I'm a musician, I've played in bands, and have toured. None of them famous, but I paid my dues. No, I'm not posting any of my material. I sell it. And no, judging from your listening tastes, I don't want to hear any of your "material." Why would I want to hear some tweener sing in Cookie Monster vocals over drop C guitars that sound like they were recorded inside of Satan's asshole?

Estolcles
09-30-2010, 01:06 AM
Stop playing in faggoty, homo erotic shit-metal bands and running your mouth, and you won't get your ass kicked. Yes, I'm a musician, I've played in bands, and have toured. None of them famous, but I paid my dues. No, I'm not posting any of my material. I sell it. And no, judging from your listening tastes, I don't want to hear any of your "material." Why would I want to hear some tweener sing in Cookie Monster vocals over drop C guitars that sound like they were recorded inside of Satan's asshole?

"Guitar solos and harmonies and melodies have been replaced by cookie monster vocals and de-tuned guitars." - Chris Jericho

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 01:09 AM
Ab> Well, you can understand where I'm coming from, seeing as I have both Dime as my avatar and a tattoo in memory of him on my back.

I won't say Pantera is the greatest metal band ever, and Dime is the greatest guitarist ever. Both would be highly wrong.

BUT, in the genre of Metal, they were some of the best.

I'd say Mustaine or Satriani are the greatest guitarists ever... and even then, classifying Satriani as metal is kinda pushing the limits a tad.

Although Steve Harris as greatest metal basist probably isn't a stretch.

The musicians you listed have actual talent. Abacab just wants to look cool on stage, and picked the "subgenre" of metal that requires the least amount of talent to play. A retarded, quadriplegic chimpanzee could play that shit. Better than most of the people recording it, too. See, it's not about writing good music, it's about feeding your narcissism by being on stage in front a crowd of strangers because everyone who really knows you hates your guts because you're a fucking obnoxious sociopath.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 01:10 AM
Stop playing in faggoty, homo erotic shit-metal bands and running your mouth, and you won't get your ass kicked. Yes, I'm a musician, I've played in bands, and have toured. None of them famous, but I paid my dues. No, I'm not posting any of my material. I sell it. And no, judging from your listening tastes, I don't want to hear any of your "material." Why would I want to hear some tweener sing in Cookie Monster vocals over drop C guitars that sound like they were recorded inside of Satan's asshole?

Dawg drop C? I play in C and A standards exclusively, but I'm really sorry Bodean that you're totally out of the underground and any and all metal/punk/hardcore outfits are totally foreign to you since you're too busy cashing in with whateverthefuck you play these days.

I'm also sorry that your influence in metal is only limited to what they play on the radio and what was mass marketed during the 90's and previous influences such as Venom and Witchfinder General are but distant memories.

You also say you "sell" your material, well anybody that sells material at least has sound samples even if it's only 30 seconds of an intro or a lick from one of your works you do have samples, so stop being a pussy and link your shit, hell bro I'll even give you a couple minutes to find some MP3's of obscure bands in a vein attempt at passing it off as your own work if you want to.

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 01:16 AM
Dawg drop C? I play in C and A standards exclusively, but I'm really sorry Bodean that you're totally out of the underground and any and all metal/punk/hardcore outfits are totally foreign to you since you're too busy cashing in with whateverthefuck you play these days.

I'm also sorry that your influence in metal is only limited to what they play on the radio and what was mass marketed during the 90's and previous influences such as Venom and Witchfinder General are but distant memories.

You also say you "sell" your material, well anybody that sells material at least has sound samples even if it's only 30 seconds of an intro or a lick from one of your works you do have samples, so stop being a pussy and link your shit, hell bro I'll even give you a couple minutes to find some MP3's of obscure bands in a vein attempt at passing it off as your own work if you want to.

You're one of those poser motherfuckers who says shit like "We don't want to be famous, man. We want to keep out integrity, keep it real," aren't you? LMAO, you're hilarious. Also, who said I played metal? I just linked that last good metal band. Thrash/doom/sludge Metal is an angry child's genres, really. When you grow up, you'll realize that.

By the way, after Peter Gabriel left, Genesis sucked. Fact.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 01:17 AM
The musicians you listed have actual talent. Abacab just wants to look cool on stage, and picked the "subgenre" of metal that requires the least amount of talent to play. A retarded, quadriplegic chimpanzee could play that shit. Better than most of the people recording it, too. See, it's not about writing good music, it's about feeding your narcissism by being on stage in front a crowd of strangers because everyone who really knows you hates your guts because you're a fucking obnoxious sociopath.

Yes, because all music should be about how well you can play modes and scales in sequence and let's totally cut out rhythm in the name of guitarsturbation. Not everything has to be balls to the wall Malmsteen technical to be classified as "talent" or "music" and to assume that is not only ignorant but totally defacing what metal and punk movements stood for to begin with.

This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNf7o-AZQmw

Is talented because the rhythm involved gives a emotional impression, just like when I listen to 16 Horsepower and Woven Hand the minimalistic folk and world instrumentalism gives it that edge of being creative without it being prototypical bluegrass or shitty Eurocentric folk.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 01:23 AM
Thrash/doom/sludge Metal is an angry child's genres, really. When you grow up, you'll realize that.

Thrash is because it's born with punk mentality, the whole genre lifts punk's sentimentalism towards society in general.

Doom just as the name suggests is written in the context of a nihilist, not really "angry kid" music so much as a very minimalist way of reflecting depression.

As for Sludge 99% of the material revolves around it's name sake which is music that sounds "dirty and unclean" all the material is essentially heroin drenched, black sabbath laden, crust punk.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 01:24 AM
Oh by the way, you still haven't posted your material

Since half the forum has heard mine, and I routinely play my bass in mumble from time to time, people know what I play and what I'm about.

Betting $20 I've got more talent than you

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 01:29 AM
It's all childish, bratty "fuck the world" teen angst. Punk did it better. Time to grow up, and actually learn to play that bass, buddy. Listening to Jaco Pastorius, Bootsy Collins, and Victor Wooten would be a good start. And you'd probably get to play to a room with some actually women in it, instead of pimply dudes.

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 01:30 AM
Oh by the way, you still haven't posted your material

Since half the forum has heard mine, and I routinely play my bass in mumble from time to time, people know what I play and what I'm about.

Betting $20 I've got more talent than you

Whatever you say, champ. You're amazing. Really.

Estolcles
09-30-2010, 01:32 AM
Bootsy Collins was the shit.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 01:39 AM
I dont think Bodeanicus HAS any material, I don't even think he has a page that will direct me to his paypal account so I can buy his swag.

You got to understand how the music industry works, if he's played out and if he's selling his material he would have a website even a fucking myspace for his work. Also as a musician who plays for the profit posting his material here would probably induce some sales if people liked his shit and don't you fucking lie and say this isn't the case because EVERY artist is a narcissistic twat when it comes to their work and will do shameless self-promotion at the drop of hat if the need arises, (Everybody in the industry does it)

So I'm just going to call you out on being full of shit and you haven't got a thing and you're just trolling

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 01:55 AM
I dont think Bodeanicus HAS any material, I don't even think he has a page that will direct me to his paypal account so I can buy his swag.

You got to understand how the music industry works, if he's played out and if he's selling his material he would have a website even a fucking myspace for his work. Also as a musician who plays for the profit posting his material here would probably induce some sales if people liked his shit and don't you fucking lie and say this isn't the case because EVERY artist is a narcissistic twat when it comes to their work and will do shameless self-promotion at the drop of hat if the need arises, (Everybody in the industry does it)

So I'm just going to call you out on being full of shit and you haven't got a thing and you're just trolling

You're so fucking stupid and self-centered, you know that? Who said I sell my material to the public, or even want to? You know, some of us outgrow the desire to be on a stage. I know you can't understand that, being the raging malignant narcissist you are, but I assure you there are plenty of musicians who make a living not on a stage. I play out now for fun, not to get paid, though I do get paid to play out. I advise you not to blow your trust fund, buddy. You're not going to make it in music after you realize you're not going to be famous.

Troy
09-30-2010, 02:07 AM
I'm sort of in the first metal camp there, but I prefer melody and harmony to technicality. I don't really care for extremely proggy stuff unless it's still catchy (Symphony X for example as opposed to Spiral Architect). And I hate anything with a "vocalist" instead of an actual singer. Learn to fucking sing or just be instrumental. Growls piss me off to no end, they ruin a lot of bands who would otherwise be really good. See: any decent melodic death metal band for example.

My band is still in development but we're pretty much a Maiden/Helloween/HammerFall/Stratovarius mix, perhaps I'll link some samples when we record our demo so you death/doom/stoner guys can call me a fag.

Estolcles
09-30-2010, 02:09 AM
Honestly I've never been in a band, and the few times I joked around with some friends who had a decent metal band, I always sang in some weird mutated Layne/Danzig combo voice that just didn't go well with the tunes.

Thus why I just grow my hair long and dye my goatee in memory of Dime.

Troy
09-30-2010, 02:13 AM
I don't get how anyone can actually enjoy metal. Do you guys like sit in your house and just have it playing? Or like if you are on an airplane you choose to listen to metal on your mp3 player?

I forgot to address this. What do you think of as metal?

I listen to it 90% of the time, but it's none of that bullshit with screaming, blastbeats, breakdowns, growling, super-low tunings, random atonal riffs, and other shit like that.

It's huge epic bouncy feel-good music.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 02:39 AM
You're so fucking stupid and self-centered, you know that? Who said I sell my material to the public, or even want to? You know, some of us outgrow the desire to be on a stage. I know you can't understand that, being the raging malignant narcissist you are, but I assure you there are plenty of musicians who make a living not on a stage. I play out now for fun, not to get paid, though I do get paid to play out. I advise you not to blow your trust fund, buddy. You're not going to make it in music after you realize you're not going to be famous.

Who said I'm dead set on being famous? If you've totally missed the point of the shit I play, it's non-mainstream broseph, which means I'm NEVER going to have WMG banging on my door cause I'm the next thing to rock the billboard 100.

You know what I can't understand?

Why you haven't posted your material? If you're going to take shots at my music, I deserve the right to criticize your material. You claim I'm a narcissist, but you're the one skirting any form of criticism with the excuse "I only sell to X, and never post my material" which makes you not only seem like a liar but a fucking pussy to boot.

So you can sit here all day playing debate games and claiming what I do, what I play, and what I listen to is terrible and undeserving like a retarded troll. Or you can take this shit at face value post one link to something original you've done and let me and the rest of the forum decide if your hubris is well deserving of such, since you seem to hold a very high opinion that your music is superior to mine, and that my opinions on a genre that you admitted you don't even fucking play are unworthy.

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 03:55 AM
Who said I'm dead set on being famous? If you've totally missed the point of the shit I play, it's non-mainstream broseph, which means I'm NEVER going to have WMG banging on my door cause I'm the next thing to rock the billboard 100.

You know what I can't understand?

Why you haven't posted your material? If you're going to take shots at my music, I deserve the right to criticize your material. You claim I'm a narcissist, but you're the one skirting any form of criticism with the excuse "I only sell to X, and never post my material" which makes you not only seem like a liar but a fucking pussy to boot.

So you can sit here all day playing debate games and claiming what I do, what I play, and what I listen to is terrible and undeserving like a retarded troll. Or you can take this shit at face value post one link to something original you've done and let me and the rest of the forum decide if your hubris is well deserving of such, since you seem to hold a very high opinion that your music is superior to mine, and that my opinions on a genre that you admitted you don't even fucking play are unworthy.

Why haven't I posted my material? Simple. You're not competent to judge it. And tell the truth, I'm not remotely interested in your opinion of it You're not a musician. You're some kid who bought a bass and grew his hair and goatee to pretend to edgy and hardcore. At least learn to play the damn thing, and write some real songs. Then we'll compare dicks, OK?

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 04:01 AM
Why haven't I posted my material? Simple. You're not competent to judge it. And tell the truth, I'm not remotely interested in your opinion of it You're not a musician. You're some kid who bought a bass and grew his hair and goatee to pretend to edgy and hardcore. At least learn to play the damn thing, and write some real songs. Then we'll compare dicks, OK?

Sorry, I tried reading this response but all I managed to process was pretentious cocksucker.

No but in truth, that is a really piss poor reasoning to not post something, and in your own words a sign of malignant narcissism. So why don't you go do what you do best as a "musician" and comment on every youtube video that you could do better while failing to provide evidence.

Also have YOU even heard me play? I doubt it.

purist
09-30-2010, 04:03 AM
Bodeanicus put up or shut up, tool.

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 04:05 AM
Bodeanicus put up or shut up, tool.

Go fuck yourself, chief. I didn't hear anyone yell for pussy.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 04:13 AM
Bodeanicus put up or shut up, tool.

You can only put up if you've got something to do that with, you cant gamble if you ain't got no money. So of course he isn't going to shut up, since the latter is the only way he can feign his way through credibility.

He's kind of like the kid we all knew in high school that would incessantly talk-up his merits over a certain subject to astounding levels of exaggeration in the hopes we all believe his shit, but in reality he's trying to make himself believe it.

He also reminds me of this kid I went to school with who would brag he could whoop anybody's ass because he did MMA, when called out on it to prove it he just sat around and talked mad shit about how people were not "worth his time" while continuing to reinforce the fact that he was this supposed bad ass. He did this on several occasions, each time exaggerating a little more until someone finally took a swing on him and the kid went down faster than an insecure teen trying to win a boyfriend.

Point is, you can talk all day and use lame excuses like "you're not competent enough to critique" but everyone knows you're just backed into a corner and desperately trying to skirt off the pressure without actually laying down proof.

tl;dr

He's a pussy

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 04:31 AM
Abacab, sweetheart, you can't embarrass me, or make me mad. But please, keep trying. I couldn't care less about your opinion on anything. You, on the other had, care very much that I insult that fucking garbage you play and listen to. Write another wall about what a pussy I am. It's very entertaining. Maybe one day you can give me tips on how to be a total fucking pussy and grief other players in game when I don't get my way or enough attention, like a little bitch.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 04:39 AM
Abacab, sweetheart, you can't embarrass me, or make me mad. But please, keep trying. I couldn't care less about your opinion on anything. You, on the other had, care very much that I insult that fucking garbage you play and listen to. Write another wall about what a pussy I am. It's very entertaining. Maybe one day you can give me tips on how to be a total fucking pussy and grief other players in game when I don't get my way or enough attention, like a little bitch.

Oh I get it! You're just mad cause I trained people.

I never would've guessed shit I did several months ago, would have irritated your ego so roughly that you've been in this catatonic sleeper cell state for MONTHS waiting on me to engage in a topic with enough depth for the opportunity to troll.

Srsly lol?

This isn't about music, this about you getting so butt hurt over ancient history and upon seeing myself engaging in a topic you couldn't wait to necro those old resentments and perform forum battery hoping I'll log off with my tail between my legs because you're thoroughly pwning me with your ignorant and petty vendetta.

So whats up big Bodean? Still mad about Bush winning in 2000? Since you know you seem to get pissed about shit that:

No one cares about

RKromwell
09-30-2010, 04:48 AM
Only thing I have to say about underground metal...

Just because you can sing like you have a cock in your mouth, doesn't mean you should. Really, some of those guys should shut the hell up and just let the band play.

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 04:53 AM
Only thing I have to say about underground metal...

Just because you can sing like you have a cock in your mouth, doesn't mean you should. Really, some of those guys should shut the hell up and just let the band play.

It's a hardcore punk thing, came from songs being shouted and growled some people take it to an extreme with the shrieking and gurgling but I do love me some growls and shouts in the middle of dissonance

Messianic
09-30-2010, 09:08 AM
I always wondered if abacab's name came from a cheat code in Shadowrun for Sega Genesis...ABBACAB at the intro...

Seaweedpimp
09-30-2010, 03:55 PM
ITT: Nerdy powerfags talk about their favorite melodic shit, pretending it's metal.

Seriously bitches let me put you in your place


Sourvein - Bangleaf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTtf1PK4ftE

Zoroaster - Witch Hammer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsYH1Ru32Xc

Graves at Sea - Cirrhosis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA5CQCX8JVI


Skitsystem - System Collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDp8TDWQ4E0&feature=related

Graves at sea is actually pretty good! good job abafag.

Seaweedpimp
09-30-2010, 04:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO7VP34n2Ps&feature=related

Seaweedpimp
09-30-2010, 04:14 PM
Some might like this, most wont. They do sell this shit at the mall. If you care. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKNXYv14wzA

LOL and watch this motherfucker!!!!!

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lElxh7bQfu8&feature=related


LOL

Molitoth
09-30-2010, 04:26 PM
Go fuck yourself, chief. I didn't hear anyone yell for pussy.

I laughed. :p

Molitoth
09-30-2010, 04:32 PM
I'm not looking to get involved in your flame war, but I just wanted to get your opinion on my fav metal album of all time.

Machine Head - The Blackening

Sckrilla
09-30-2010, 04:45 PM
I completely agree with most of what Abacab has said in this thread, and it's pretty obvious his knowledge of metal is vast. However, all I can say is--get off Matt Pike's nuts man... High on Fire is not that great and he is DEFINITELY not the greatest guitarist out there. Not even close. For the record--SLEEP > HoF.

Rellika
09-30-2010, 09:32 PM
I love metal but the OP has seriously posted some of the worst shit i've ever heard. Just a random opinion.

Bodeanicus
09-30-2010, 11:05 PM
Best death metal ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFqG85L59hA

Abacab niggah
09-30-2010, 11:25 PM
Best death metal ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFqG85L59hA

Obvious troll... But if you're gonna post skater rock such as this might as well opt out for Brant Bjork himself

stayne
10-01-2010, 11:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIGZqHy3Eu0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMX1bGOYE7A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftnKaee8KTI&feature=related

I could go on...

stayne
10-01-2010, 11:49 AM
...so I will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZIVqCeFxR8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1H9O53onxA&ob=av2n

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CugnVOTPAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ODNxy3YOPU

Dunes
10-01-2010, 11:51 AM
Gotta go with Adamantium. Sure, I know it doesn't exist. But the most badass fake metal is better than the "bleh" metals we have to choose from now.

Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability

Maybe the fabled adamantium lies in there somewhere?

Dunes
10-01-2010, 11:53 AM
I always wondered if abacab's name came from a cheat code in Shadowrun for Sega Genesis...ABBACAB at the intro...

Btw, ^^^ is the best game ever made for that console. I really hoped they would come up with an MMO based on that world, but instead they turned it into some crap FPS :mad:

Bodeanicus
10-01-2010, 02:08 PM
Obvious troll... But if you're gonna post skater rock such as this might as well opt out for Brant Bjork himself

Skater rock? Don't bring up a genre you weren't alive for.

But, this is a better song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipy58SaIRhs

Seaweedpimp
10-01-2010, 02:16 PM
Skater rock? Don't bring up a genre you weren't alive for.

But, this is a better song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipy58SaIRhs

Doubt many will care enough about you to click your shitty song for 10 sec before clicking off. i know i wont.

Messianic
10-01-2010, 02:22 PM
Btw, ^^^ is the best game ever made for that console. I really hoped they would come up with an MMO based on that world, but instead they turned it into some crap FPS :mad:

That game had real potential. If only they had fleshed it out more...Futuristic RPGs definitely haven't peaked yet - up to now, all the big hitters have really been the same, essentially medieval context with maybe a bit of technology thrown in as an aside (gnomes in EQ, Gnomes+Goblins in WoW).

Bodeanicus
10-01-2010, 02:31 PM
Doubt many will care enough about you to click your shitty song for 10 sec before clicking off. i know i wont.

I care. I really do. Your opinion just means that fucking much man. Now, pass the bong.

Messianic
10-01-2010, 02:38 PM
LETS ALL CUSS AND HATE EACH OTHER ON THE FORUMS WORD UP DAWG

Theldios
10-01-2010, 03:12 PM
LETS ALL CUSS AND HATE EACH OTHER ON THE FORUMS WORD UP DAWG

OK FUCK YOU BITCH SUCK MY FAT ASS COCK!
AND TOUNGE MY FAT ASSHOLE!

Messianic
10-01-2010, 03:16 PM
...

lol...disturbing

Theldios
10-01-2010, 03:18 PM
lol...disturbing
ROTFLMAOhahaha and almost got caught at work cause i laughed out load big time!

Shannacore
10-01-2010, 03:18 PM
:confused:

Theldios
10-01-2010, 03:20 PM
OK FUCK YOU BITCH SUCK MY FAT ASS COCK!
AND TOUNGE MY FAT ASSHOLE!

I just did not want to use the old out played TOSS MY SALAD!

Messianic
10-01-2010, 03:22 PM
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