Variance

[arsenalpow]

Back on topic, variance might be the solution for red but some rule changes would need to be made to the LnS policy.

Let's say everyone is fighting for zone control of KC for a Venril Sathir kill because the window is 16 hours. That would make for some amazing pvp across DL/KC for over half a day, but the LnS rules probably would screw things up. There should be a shorter LnS timeframe when it comes to raid zones while mobs are in window to keep the pvp flowing.

[Swyft]

You are a croot. You aren't BK when you raid uncontested with Holo. You're just another warm body raiding uncontested in the zerg. Just the way you like it. Its the only way you can acquire the pixels you desire.

I actually don't need any pixels, I just enjoy spying on Holo while taking pixels from them.

Lite is a very generous guild leader and if I actually needed something I would go to Azrael before Holocaust.

[Nirgon]

Still spreading creep tho!

BK spreading the fuck out of some creep

http://s1.postimg.org/48wjphoin/Creep_Tumor.jpg

[Swyft]

Back on topic, variance might be the solution for red but some rule changes would need to be made to the LnS policy.

Let's say everyone is fighting for zone control of KC for a Venril Sathir kill because the window is 16 hours. That would make for some amazing pvp across DL/KC for over half a day, but the LnS rules probably would screw things up. There should be a shorter LnS timeframe when it comes to raid zones while mobs are in window to keep the pvp flowing.

NOPE if you're engaged in large scale pvp you cannot call individual LNS and if you call guild LNS your force is locked from the zone.

LNS was not intended to protect players so they could raid the dragon, it's meant for players to recover their body and get the fuck out of the area.

[Nirgon]

Variance could work if it wasn't a failed experiment that required a million other rules on top of it

[Pikrib]

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[Swyft]

Variance could work if it wasn't a failed experiment that required a million other rules on top of it

Variance was never tried on red, if you're saying red is the same as blue then you don't belong here.

We have no clue if variance would or wouldn't work on a pvp server, we do know that static timers aren't working tho, we have 3 years of data to prove that.

[Nirgon]

Almost no rots... the maximum number of players possible being raid geared atm

Community win

[derpcake]

LNS was not intended to protect players so they could raid the dragon, it's meant for players to recover their body and get the fuck out of the area.

I've never had to LNS. Always been able to log out, summon later.

I don't think I like LNS, as much as a bluebie I may be. If some nerd keeps annoying you, come back in force or come back at another time.

This is considering how easy it is to get corpses restored here. If that wasn't around I might reconsider. Prolly not though, CRing is generally very easy. If it isn't, you went into a high risk place and lost.

[Glenzig]

I actually don't need any pixels, I just enjoy spying on Holo while taking pixels from them.

Lite is a very generous guild leader and if I actually needed something I would go to Azrael before Holocaust.

Its ok. We know you really like being in Holo. So much that you keep apping on different toons.

Btw, since you have already complained about Holo locking down most of the raid mobs, we know you can't get anything you would need from Azrael. If you could, all this talk of needing variance would just be moot.

[derpcake]

Almost no rots... the maximum number of players possible being raid geared atm

Community win

Banhammer helps a bit there but I agree, some kind of plat sink would be nice.

Having shit rot is hard unless you are connected, so I don't like that idea. I could totally see Syft spend 18 hours a day to grief some employed nerd in an oracle robe.

[Steel Warrior]

Back on topic, variance might be the solution for red but some rule changes would need to be made to the LnS policy.

Let's say everyone is fighting for zone control of KC for a Venril Sathir kill because the window is 16 hours. That would make for some amazing pvp across DL/KC for over half a day, but the LnS rules probably would screw things up. There should be a shorter LnS timeframe when it comes to raid zones while mobs are in window to keep the pvp flowing.

You already have the variance you want on your shit server, so kindly fuck right off.

[Glenzig]

Variance was never tried on red, if you're saying red is the same as blue then you don't belong here.

We have no clue if variance would or wouldn't work on a pvp server, we do know that static timers aren't working tho, we have 3 years of data to prove that.

They're working fine for you. Just log your main in Holo and grab that warm body raid lewt.

[derpcake]

Variance would have helped azrael get pixels if holo had 80 members or so.

Boat has sailed.

[daasgoot]

You already have the variance you want on your shit server, so kindly fuck right off.

lol holy shit dude, why are you always so mad?

[Swyft]

Almost no rots... the maximum number of players possible being raid geared atm

Community win



Holo has more than enough for velious... but just in case you do care, continuing to accept anything with a pulse actually is hurting the server now.



Not even the staff agrees with you, but we all know you don't care about the server and only give a shit about what gets Nirgon the most pixels.

[derpcake]

Not even the staff agrees with you, but we all know you don't care about the server and only give a shit about what gets Nirgon the most pixels.

I'm glad you highly value Sirkens opinion. :D

[arsenalpow]

I just don't understand how variance wouldn't promote long fights for zone control to ensure you have a shot at the dragon/god. Some of the most fun I had on SZ was the all day fights across gfay/lfay/CB/MM with hundreds of people running around.

Isn't that point of the red server, to promote pvp?

[daasgoot]

I just don't understand how variance wouldn't promote long fights for zone control to ensure you have a shot at the dragon/god. Some of the most fun I had on SZ was the all day fights across gfay/lfay/CB/MM with hundreds of people running around.

Isn't that point of the red server, to promote pvp?

you are more red than 75% of r99 population.

[derpcake]

I just don't understand how variance wouldn't promote long fights for zone control to ensure you have a shot at the dragon/god. Some of the most fun I had on SZ was the all day fights across gfay/lfay/CB/MM with hundreds of people running around.

Isn't that point of the red server, to promote pvp?

Variance mainly makes raiding more demanding, since you need members prepared to get up in the middle of the night to kill a dragon.

Asking for variance here is hoping that being able to batphone 20 people at 4 in the morning is going to make you have more online then an 80 people guild of which most have jobs / families.

Holo has like 500, so variance isn't going to help in a significant way, besides serving as an excuse.

"if only we had variance".

If only I had quad damage.

[Swyft]

I just don't understand how variance wouldn't promote long fights for zone control to ensure you have a shot at the dragon/god. Some of the most fun I had on SZ was the all day fights across gfay/lfay/CB/MM with hundreds of people running around.

Isn't that point of the red server, to promote pvp?

Of course variance would promote pvp, but blues don't want pvp they do just about anything to avoid it and static timers of all raid mobs up the same day a week provides them the perfect opportunity to avoid it completely.

[Troubled]

I just don't understand how variance wouldn't promote long fights for zone control to ensure you have a shot at the dragon/god. Some of the most fun I had on SZ was the all day fights across gfay/lfay/CB/MM with hundreds of people running around.

Isn't that point of the red server, to promote pvp?

Knowing when a mob spawns should help a guild set up to contest better, especially if they need a tactical advantage when they don't have the numbers. KSing and ninja looting are legal as well on raid mobs on red so there's plenty of opportunity to take a target and I think that makes it more easily contestable without variance.

[Kergan]

Everyone who's seen this
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/syft13/k%20shame%202_zps1zxcjq8q.png (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/syft13/media/k%20shame%202_zps1zxcjq8q.png.html)


knows your rustled, Holocaust just hates me so much they are willing to lie about anything.

Yeah I definitely appear quite rustled in that screenshot.

[Kergan]

I just don't understand how variance wouldn't promote long fights for zone control to ensure you have a shot at the dragon/god. Some of the most fun I had on SZ was the all day fights across gfay/lfay/CB/MM with hundreds of people running around.

Isn't that point of the red server, to promote pvp?

lol there were no fights over raid mobs on SZ what the fuck are you talking about

[daasgoot]

Knowing when a mob spawns should help a guild set up to contest better, especially if they need a tactical advantage when they don't have the numbers. KSing and ninja looting are legal as well on raid mobs on red so there's plenty of opportunity to take a target and I think that makes it more easily contestable without variance.

not when 75% of the server is in 1 single guild.. been that way for 3 years.

[Nirgon]

Holocaust figured out how the guild invite command works, knows the 15 year old quests

http://i.qkme.me/3v92cq.jpg

A certain guild leader having a major sweet tooth/Achilles heel for RMT didn't hurt either

[Troubled]

not when 75% of the server is in 1 single guild.. been that way for 3 years.

So that '75% of the server' is going to sock variance and the smaller guild will have <10 on at a time when the large guild can batphone for probably about 40 people still. Variance never solved any problems on blue and it's been a cancer that's there to stay. I don't think you really want it on red cuz those shots at primetime pvp/mobs disappear forever.

[derpcake]

Knowing when a mob spawns should help a guild set up to contest better, especially if they need a tactical advantage when they don't have the numbers. KSing and ninja looting are legal as well on raid mobs on red so there's plenty of opportunity to take a target and I think that makes it more easily contestable without variance.

No it doesn't.

The filthy casuals are too lazy to get out of bed in the middle of the night. Neckbeards will just be warmed up, it greatly benefits them.

This doesn't mean I disapprove of neckbearding in any way, its just that the goal of this request is obvious and way too late.

[Kergan]

Still can't believe anyone could possibly think Azrael is fighting for variance for any other reason than camping 20 toons outside PD lair to snipe it uncontested.

Except Syft. I honestly believes he wants it cause he thinks it'll bring more PVP.

[derpcake]

[QUOTE=Kergan;1792425I honestly believes he wants it cause he thinks it'll bring more PVP.[/QUOTE]

Beati pauperes spiritu

Fight on brave knight.

[Steel Warrior]

I just don't understand how variance wouldn't promote long fights for zone control to ensure you have a shot at the dragon/god. Some of the most fun I had on SZ was the all day fights across gfay/lfay/CB/MM with hundreds of people running around.

Isn't that point of the red server, to promote pvp?

The point of the red server is for you to fuck off.

You already shitted up the blue server to complete unplayability with your relentless whining. If we want to play in that fucking nightmare, we know how to click on it. Fuck off.

[Nirgon]

Yeah that rotation/variance shit is pretty much a form of torture at this point

[derpcake]

If variance was implemented I could see holo have 100ish people present when a couple of hours into the spawn window.

Noone would contest.

[Troubled]

No it doesn't.

The filthy casuals are too lazy to get out of bed in the middle of the night. Neckbeards will just be warmed up, it greatly benefits them.

This doesn't mean I disapprove of neckbearding in any way, its just that the goal of this request is obvious and way too late.

Whole lotta neckbeards in Holo. It's like a pangaea of blue and red server neckbeards. Glorious.

[derpcake]

Whole lotta neckbeards in Holo. It's like a pangaea of blue and red server neckbeards. Glorious.

I guess you agree on the futility of variance then.

Would only make it harder on the casual players, which seems undesireable on r99.

I'm saying this as a euro, knowing that shit will be pushed into US time. Prefer server to thrive so don't care.

[Troubled]

I guess you agree on the futility of variance then.

Would only make it harder on the casual players, which seems undesireable on r99.

I'm saying this as a euro, knowing that shit will be pushed into US time. Prefer server to thrive so don't care.

p much

[RIP The Jacka]

Everyone who's seen this
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/syft13/k%20shame%202_zps1zxcjq8q.png (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/syft13/media/k%20shame%202_zps1zxcjq8q.png.html)


knows your rustled, Holocaust just hates me so much they are willing to lie about anything.

when ragnaros is the person that validates you

you have hit rock bottom

level 1s are more afraid of decaying skeletons...

[Swyft]

when ragnaros is the person that validates you

you have hit rock bottom

level 1s are more afraid of decaying skeletons...

Where in your mind are you more important than rag? you would last ten seconds in a duel vs rag, I value pvp and pvp skill not who sheds the most salty tears on the forums retti ya blue bitch.