2015: State of the Server

[Turp]

Heres the list of Velious quests that need completed before they even come close to releasing velious.
Had a nice idea to complete all quest in 1-2 weeks. Community players like Thulack ,Colgate , Swish , Fatboy ,Argh (even drew you a graph of how he will take care of it)
Nothing good came of this so heres the quest an good luck getting it done.
Instead of completing these in 1-2 weeks. It will take Swish years. GL

Cobalt Scar
Incomplete
Kelorek's Scales - Incomplete

Dragon Necropolis
Key to Jaled Dar's Lair (Neb) - Incomplete - Kegluas has items, need faction.
Key to Jaled Dar's Lair (Zlandicar) - Incomplete
Key to Sleeper's Tomb - Multiple Dragons
Yelinak - Incomplete (possibly added later?)


Kael Drakkal
Incomplete
Coldain Military Wristguard Quest - Incomplete
Custom Plate Helms - Kael - Incomplete
Mask of War - Incomplete
Strategies of the Ancient Dragons - Incomplete
Vkjor's Minor Task - Incomplete
Wenglawks The Traitor - Incomplete
Yelinak's Head - Incomplete

Kael Armor Quests

Druid
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Enchanter
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Magician
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Monk
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Paladin
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Ranger
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Rogue
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shadowknight
Arms
Bracers
Chest - Complete - Nodnard
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shaman
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Warrior
Arms
Bracers
Chest - Confirmed - Kegluas
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Wizard
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs

Plane of Growth
Incomplete
Scrolls of the Ancient Totem - Incomplete
The Four Idols - Incomplete
The Lost Tome - Incomplete
Broken/Unavailable
Natures Defender Quest - Unable to Complete - PoHate not available in beta

Plane of Mischief - This zone has lots of rewards for some quests. Please look here for information and quest lists.

Skyshrine
Incomplete
Custom Plate Helm: Skyshrine - Incomplete Later On
Friend of the Kin - Incomplete
Hsagra's Wrath Quest - Incomplete
Strike Home Toe the Giants - Incomplete
Tormax's Head - Dragons - Incomplete
Broken/Unavailable
Boysenberry Pie Quest - Incomplete - Broken?

Skyshrine Quest Armor
Bard
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Cleric
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Druid
Arms
Bracers - Confirmed - Kindadar
Chest - Confirmed - Notserp
Feet - Confirmed - Erati
Hands
Head
Legs - Confirmed - Kindadar
Enchanter
Arms - Confirmed - Noni
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs - Confirmed - Noni
Magician
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Monk
Arms - Confirmed - Hokushin
Bracers
Chest - Confirmed - Hokushin
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Paladin
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Ranger
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Rogue
Arms
Bracers
Chest - Confirmed - Feign
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shadowknight
Arms
Bracers
Chest - Confirmed - Vidarr
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shaman
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet - Confirmed Battletoad
Hands
Head
Legs
Warrior
Arms - Confirmed - Blakthorn
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Wizard
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs

Temple of Veeshan
Incomplete
Request of the Arcane - Incomplete
Test of Protection - Incomplete
Test of the Emerald Tear - Incomplete
Test of the Fire Storm - Incomplete
Test of the Living Flame - Incomplete
Test of the Platinum Tear - Incomplete
Test of the Ruby Tear - Incomplete
Test of the Tooth - Incomplete
The First Arcane Test - Incomplete
The Second Arcane Test - Incomplete
Wisdom: The Long Battle - Incomplete
Wisdom: The Short Battle - Incomplete

Thurgadin Armor Quests
Bard
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Enchanter
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Magician
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Monk
Arms
Bracers - Confirmed - Hokushin
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head - Confirmed - Hokushin
Legs - Confirmed - Hokushin
Paladin
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Ranger
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Rogue
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shadowknight
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shaman
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet -
Hands
Head
Legs
Wizard
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs

Wakening Lands
Incomplete
Faerie Dragon Wings - Incomplete
Living Granite - Incomplete
Tunarean Tasks - Incomplete

Western Wastes
Incomplete
Essence Lens - Incomplete
Porlos' Fury - Incomplete

10 in Icewell Keep
Coldain Ring Quest 10 - Incomplete

Coldain Shawl Quests
Coldain Prayer Shawl Quest 5 - Cannot complete - Glowing Wurm Bile not dropping. Is this up-to-date?
Coldain Prayer Shawl Quest 6 - Incomplete
Coldain Prayer Shawl Quest 7 - Incomplete

[Calibretto]

There is so much misinformation and so many bad suggestions ITT I don't even know where to start.

I'll start with the entitled tone in which you've written this letter and :
They aren't allowed to make money on P99 or they will get shut down. (Im almost 100% certain your theory on crowd sourcing funds being exempt from the laws is way wrong)

I can tell you were never part of a major beta test, Certainly not on on Everquest but possibly ever.


:SPOILER- No one cares about red. And the 150 or so people who play there regularly can stay there as far as I (and most others) am/are concerned.

[Ravager]

Personally, I'm happy with what we have. If Velious never launched, I'd still play here.

[Calibretto]

I like your casino idea though...

[Swish]

-Kill red an make a teams pvp which would explode population pvp.
( could you ever get the crazys on red to agree.)
They think rallos was the preferred rule set... have fun dying slow.
TZ / VZ / SZ teams would explode your red server population. You are dumb to think otherwise.
Or make a new hardcoded teams PvP server an watch red die slowly.

What makes you think a teams server won't end up with 80% of people on one (successful) team?

Something to consider.

[Calibretto]

I wouldn't worry too much about people going to another server. These same threads happened with every single game that has come out after EQ did. "IS THIS THE EQ KILLER?" Yet, the game remains.

If/when velious drops here I'm betting the population will increase significantly.

[Vandy]

The perfect server is in the eye of the beholder.

[fastboy21]

so many ideas. you should make your own server. if your ideas are good folks will play on your server for all the more fun you offer.

[Ziggy]

what makes pvp teams so much fun is that it is not balanced, and the most successful guild would almost certainly be cross-team.

[paulgiamatti]

DISCLAIMER : This is not a bash. This is constructive criticism.

Well, there you have it folks. Condescension and arrogance wrapped up nicely into two succinct sentences. Clearly we wouldn't be able to tell the difference between beratement and critique all by ourselves. We needed it pointed out for us. This is constructive. Trust me. You wouldn't be able to tell if it wasn't.

-Kill red an make a teams pvp which would explode population pvp.
( could you ever get the crazys on red to agree.)
They think rallos was the preferred rule set... have fun dying slow.
TZ / VZ / SZ teams would explode your red server. You are dumb to think otherwise.
Or make a new hardcoded teams PvP server an watch red die slowly.

I don't quite follow this logic. Where are all these new red players going to come from? From blue? I mean look, I've already said my piece on PvP elsewhere, and while teams on PvP would be an interesting change it's not going to explode the server population. It might generate a small amount of new interest, if any at all, but it's hardly a silver-bullet solution to the drastically marginalized red population. GMs probably understand the sociology behind this better than most of us do. It's practically the same exact thing as it was on live, just scaled down. A small portion of players want the EQ PvP experience, and the vast majority don't. Teams PvP isn't going to change this.

-End Class R so they don't have the comfort of free mobs + FFA mobs + C mobs. Or push Class R into C if you get 3 FFA mobs in one month (or something similiar). The raid rules are shit. Example this week. Class C got 1 mob (that class R could of went for) yet Class R get 11 mobs (that class C cant even touch) . It is dumb.

There are some real problems with the raid scene at the moment, but this is definitely not an apt summary of any of them. The real issue has more to do with mobility between class R and class C than it does with the class system itself. The class system is great in theory, but less great - probably not even good - in practice. Currently we have at least three huge class R guilds that could easily hold their own against the lesser VP dragons, but class C has had such a stranglehold on the one bottleneck for VP keys that we probably won't see anyone else in there until sometime after Velious. And to be frankly honest, if I was in class C I would probably be trying to maintain that stranglehold just as fervently as anyone else. They don't want competition in VP until Velious is out. Neither would I.

Server is going to fail if we sit an do nothing.
Sirken was saying on stream " If Rogean ever quits this server will die slowly" well he has pretty much quit. You never see lord Rogean ever make in game appearances anymore. No repop since new year 2014. No hands on project management that the community can see or notice.

No it isn't. The server is still in good hands, even if GM involvement in the foreshadow of Velious has dwindled slightly. To say Rogean not being in game is nothing new would be a huge understatement, and this provides exactly zero problems since there is already a perfectly capable staff taking care of the necessary stuff.

-The Staff use to log in an care (Have GM events , Have Illusion Bombs, Chat/Answer Petitions , GM pvp Events , GM EXP Bonus). If they have moved on IRL i hope they at least pass the project onto Nilbog an find new people that will help like..
-If Rogean cares enough maybe he could set up a donation number goal, that we could reach. so that he could hire some Devs to help speed up the process. Or hire a GM. This community is full of great people an we would crowd fund a full time GM or full time Coding Dev. Maybe even hire a GM that we could pay to do classic events. This is very possible an you know we would fund it.

Agreed, but if I'm not mistaken new guide and GM applications have always been welcomed. I get the feeling no one is fit to fill the shiny new GM shoes at the moment. That Daldaen guy makes a huge amount of significant contributions in the testing department - "hire" him. Hell, put him on as a beta testing dev. Unless of course, you know, he doesn't want to.

The rest of your post just kind of blurred together around a few central points, which mostly struck me as non-issues and caricatured versions of how the GMs and development staff are probably approaching Velious beta testing. It kinda just sounds like you think the whole Velious content thing magically appeared out of nowhere, and now they're bestowing it upon the hapless denizens of the Project 1999 server to fix it until it works. Well, my good sir, that is not how it works. The people making this stuff possible have put in an incomprehensible amount of time and effort into getting things to where they are today, and your entire post smacks of underappreciation and a general misunderstanding of what they've done, how they've done it, and the quality of uncompensated work being put into it.

The Project 1999 developers know that game mechanics are more important than having 100% of all quest content verified. I can assure you that they don't need this pointed out to them. There is no expectation of us to test the content for them - this is a false contingency. No one forced you to test on the beta server when they took blue and red down for a brief amount of time. They thanked those who did, but they didn't reprimand anyone who didn't. I can guarantee you that the verification of easily testable quest content is not the biggest contributor to the delay of Velious' release. It helps if we test it, but I'm sure there are bigger issues that need to be worked out and that those are the real detractors to a timely Velious date.

And on that point, yes, by all means give some people GM abilities on the beta server to test this stuff.

[myriverse]

-Pointless to even talk about Teams until Velious Beta is done.
-Very pointless to talk about another Blue server.
-Extremely pointless to talk about "hiring" anyone.

-No comment on any casino, because I give no shits.
-No comment on any raid-related issue, because I give no shits.

[Ziggy]

i dont care about velious, honestly it should be released as it is right now and fixed later (like kunark was) and then reset the server once everything is in order (or don't, it doesn't matter).

if you have hardcoded race teams then human team will dominate, the end. i don't understand your logic that having only 2-3 guilds fighting for power is somehow enabled by taking away cross teaming. hardcoded teams basically would split our already low population into 4 seperate servers.

what live never really did was give incentive to stay within your team. my perfect server would be race teams pvp that allowed crossteaming, but groups with only their team got a group xp bonus or something along those lines.

[fastboy21]

Good luck with velious fatboy

omg. you called me fatboy! good one.


Nothing here is a new idea. It is tools to speed up our current system.

you said it yourself, nothing in your post is a new idea.

you are in a ftp emulator. get a grip.

[Rec]

We'll get teams99 any day now!

[Argh]

http://i.imgur.com/SHh9AAx.gif

[Lyrith]

I only have one comment to add to this as I don't care to discuss my feelings about each and every point that was made here...

Let's say I like to work on cars as a hobby and I flip them and make some money. That's great, I can continue my hobby and hopefully not have to take too many breaks saving up more money for car parts and work my full time job more.

However if more people saw what I was doing with classic cars and donated to help me do them faster or get a shop to work on them instead of my garage. I could push out more classic cars or maybe even possibly do it for a living, instead of my hobby. Doing something I love instead of a job...

End result, if I spend all my spare money and time away from my family restoring a classic corvette then I have 800 people tell me how shitty it is, or I should have done this trim, instead of that, etc... I wouldn't keep the same motivation to keep working on them.

TL;DR = I like cars, but more importantly you should donate to the server! You would be surprised what could change when people actually make money for doing what they love.

[planeofdreams]

[SIZE="5"]
- implement that Nilbog Casino so we can get some plat sink for the economy.
This would be something fun and help reduce the plat.

-End Class R so they don't have the comfort of free mobs + FFA mobs + C mobs. Or push Class R into C if you get 3 FFA mobs in one month (or something similiar). The raid rules are shit. Example this week. Class C got 1 mob (that class R could of went for) yet Class R get 11 mobs (that class C cant even touch) . It is dumb.


A Plat Sink Casino is not a bad idea, but ironically I think the attrition of bored players, one of the points you raised, does a lot to take plat out of the economy for us. One way to observe this is to follow high end loot pricing. Over the years I've seen fungi tunics oscillate from 60k to 100K+, mostly seasonally, but while this issue looks like a gatekeeper to what I might term "the upper end of the economy", I have to wonder how many items besides epic MQs are really locked out from regular players.

The fact that twink items like this never really seem to be unattainable really says a lot to me. No drop raid loot aside, I think most items are pretty manageable for casual players who can handle waiting a little longer.

When Velious drops there will be a spike in population, and we can suggest that many in the attrition class will return to play. If many of these people are sitting on huge sums of money, what are they going to be spending it on? My guess is that they will be returning for Raiding not to level up new alts, velious is after all an expansion aimed at higher level players. I'm not a raider but I don't believe it takes hundreds of thousands of plat to mount a raid, so I do not believe much of that money will ever do anything but rot in their banks.

Glad to hear other opinions though.

A little off topic Question for the Raiders: The Class R rotation ended, didn't it? What's the difference between now Class R and Class C? Not really my concern, I'm just curious about what it looks like after this: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179670 (A link to the answer is all I'm curious about.)

[Laugher]

What makes you think a teams server won't end up with 80% of people on one (successful) team?

Something to consider.

Yeah, this makes me think back to Rolfron Zek, which was pretty awesome during its time but died quickly because with the size of pop a teams server attracts it seems like this will happen a lot:

2-3 big guilds start up

one begins to appear bigger, the other sides begin to quit or migrate to the zerg

zerg rules

pop dies

I love the idea in theory just as much as anyone and in 2013 was interested in the idea of p99 teams, but after seeing a teams pvp server that admittedly was faster paced than here and given that red gives you the option of re-teaming without having to remake your entire char there's simply little incentive imo for pvpers or those of blue to rush to the teams model of server.

[planeofdreams]

Thanks for the reply. Haha, man raid problems are so beyond me right now.

[Joyelle]

Because now class R gets class R mobs, FFA mobs, and Class C mobs if they want.


How is this possible? If a class R guild kills a Class C mob, do they not get moved into class C?

[Argh]

What that means is it is FFA in class R.
It really fucked class C.
Because now class R gets class R mobs, FFA mobs, and Class C mobs if they want.
Example this week class R got 11 mobs that class C could not touch.

How has this done anything to Class C?

[zanderklocke]

How has this done anything to Class C?

I think Class C players are disgruntled that guilds like Taken and BDA, who are less hardcore, are now going to get similar numbers of mobs except for VP. Although theoretically, the lockouts still makes Class C a better place to get mobs, but you probably have to put in a lot more work there as mobs die within 2 minutes of spawning as opposed to maybe 15 to 20 minutes in Class R.

[Argh]

I think Class C players are disgruntled that guilds like Taken and BDA, who are less hardcore, are now going to get similar numbers of mobs except for VP. Although theoretically, the lockouts still makes Class C a better place to get mobs, but you probably have to put in a lot more work there as mobs die within 2 minutes of spawning as opposed to maybe 15 to 20 minutes in Class R.

That's not a real problem either, but he's implying that because the rotation fell apart there were 11 R spawns this week and 1 C/FFA spawn, which is also wrong. This week there have been 7 R spawns and 9 C/FFA spawns not including VP mobs.

[paulgiamatti]

As far as I can tell the collapse of the class R rotation doesn't affect class C at all, or at least it won't initially. Eventually it will probably impact the economy, as the class R superguilds start to hoard and resell stuff from their FFA plundering. Otherwise class C pretty much just gets to keep doing what they've always done, none-the-wiser of the ongoing perils and frustration of the majority of class R guilds whose poopsocks do indeed have a bottom, and who didn't agree to the proposed set of rules.

[Troubled]

Server is going to stall out even more if we sit an do nothing. MAIN REASON for this post is to try an get people GM powers to help test velious easier an faster.
Sirken was saying on stream " If Rogean ever quits this server will die slowly" well he has pretty much quit. You never see lord Rogean ever make in game appearances anymore. No repop since new year 2014. No hands on project management that the community can see or notice.

Rogean was on red 2 nights ago, and velious beta last night.
http://forums-cdn.appleinsider.com/3/3d/3d325d2d_MythBusted.gif

[Swish]

I think Class C players are disgruntled that guilds like Taken and BDA, who are less hardcore, are now going to get similar numbers of mobs except for VP. Although theoretically, the lockouts still makes Class C a better place to get mobs, but you probably have to put in a lot more work there as mobs die within 2 minutes of spawning as opposed to maybe 15 to 20 minutes in Class R.

+1

[Pint]

+1 for speeding up parts of velious beta and +1 for more teams pvp interest, I know id rather be tooling around on a fresh teams server than participating in the raid scene atm.

[Bazia]

velious was a shitty expansion anyways who cares

[Thulack]

That is exactly right. spot on.
They can sit back relaxed an get the same exact mobs as class C.
Its stupid an once people with a brain in class C realize it maybe they will stand with me.


How is that not a problem? Your math is shit or please elaborate the 7 R spawns and 9 C spawns.
You trying to spew numbers to make Taken look better? :rolleyes:
1-2 days ago
It was 1 class C Maestro does that even count? fuck maestro.
9 class R mobs and 2 FFA Tal/CT. Which is class R mobs since they are aloud to go for those too. so 1 class c Maestro. Doesnt count so 0 Class C and 11 class R target.
Yep seems fair
Class C needs to be able to go after class R FFA too.


DOES ANYONE CARE?!
still no comments on how GM powers to certain people would speed up the release of velious... we are talking waiting 1 year or more for velious
OR DISCUSS MY IDEA an get it done in 1 month.

Or no comments on if Rogean ask for a certain donation amount to help upkeep the server (a dev we can pay to code more, or a full time GM that can run events) Taking donations is not illegal, they take donations already, take some an get us a GM an Dev.

Argh doesnt do anything to make Taken look good. And really this is Rogean and Nilbogs playground. They can do whatever they want when they want. How about you let them worry about their server and you just continue to play the game. Peoples issues seem to be they are more worried about what others are doing then themselves.

[captnamazing]

http://i.imgur.com/SHh9AAx.gif

mfw no mention of required Roleplaying

[Argh]

Your math is shit or please elaborate the 7 R spawns and 9 C spawns.

Here are the mobs that died this week and the class they belonged to:

2015-02-08 02:56 (EST) | Trakanon (Class-C)
2015-02-08 12:05 (EST) | Maestro (Class-C)
2015-02-10 08:50 (EST) | Draco (Class-C)
2015-02-10 13:46 (EST) | Lord Nagafen (Class-C)
2015-02-11 01:04 (EST) | Venril Sathir (Class-R)
2015-02-11 01:13 (EST) | Talendor (FFA)
2015-02-11 01:25 (EST) | Trakanon (Class-R)
2015-02-11 01:48 (EST) | Innoruuk (Class-R)
2015-02-11 11:58 (EST) | Severilous (Class-R)
2015-02-11 15:15 (EST) | Cazic Thule (FFA)
2015-02-11 15:43 (EST) | Maestro (Class-R)
2015-02-11 20:50 (EST) | Faydedar (Class-R)
2015-02-12 02:02 (EST) | Lady Vox (FFA)
2015-02-13 03:00 (EST) | Gorenaire (Class-C)
2015-02-14 07:02 (EST) | Trakanon (FFA)
2015-02-14 07:59 (EST) | Dracoliche (Class-R)

9 class R mobs and 2 FFA Tal/CT. Which is class R mobs since they are aloud to go for those too.

How do FFA mobs count as class-R mobs? Are you unaware that class-c can kill them aswell?

Here is a venn diagram to help you with how access to mobs work:

http://i.imgur.com/JjSJo8A.png

Even if it were the case (and it's not) that there were 11 R mobs to 1 C mob this week, it means that in 2 weeks it would be 11 C mobs to 1 R mobs, since that is how a cycle works.

Class C needs to be able to go after class R FFA too.
They're free to join Class-R by following the simple procedure posted in the Raid Discussion section.


DOES ANYONE CARE?!

100% they do not care about this shit post. Every position you have is either wrong or based on a premise that is wrong.

[Calibretto]

I knew if I waited that you guys would cover all the bases. Now to ignore the PM's.

[Ella`Ella]

I think Class C players are disgruntled that guilds like Taken and BDA, who are less hardcore, are now going to get similar numbers of mobs except for VP.

We really do not give a shit about what kind of clowning is going on in Class-R. All we care about is how wonderfully it has been benefitting our recruitment. Thank you.

[Colgate]

lol'd at this retard thinking that removing the exp bonus on red would somehow improve population

[Man0warr]

Class R losing it's rotation has caused absolutely zero changes in Class C Turp (except maybe more recruits from smaller Class R guilds) - half of your post is invalidated right there.

[Safon]

I love these "server is dying" posts, when the pop sits at, 500+, 800+, and currently with this particular "server is doomed" post from Turp, 1200+ concurrent players at prime time (who knows how many total players during the course of a month)

There was a time when we were ecstatic and more than content to have 300 players on the server, good times

[YendorLootmonkey]

9 class R mobs and 2 FFA Tal/CT. Which is class R mobs since they are aloud to go for those too. so 1 class c Maestro. Doesnt count so 0 Class C and 11 class R target.
Yep seems fair

The Class C/R/FFA was how it was negotiated. Class C got to keep exclusive rights to 6 VP mobs, which you are conveniently leaving out. The player-made rotation in Class R was an agreement among players... the dissolution of the rotation returns the raid scene back to the original vision. Nothing has changed for Class C.

You're also conveniently leaving out the fact that Class C has two guilds in it, and Class R has ELEVEN guilds in it. And you're also conveniently leaving out the fact that eventually all the mobs that are Class R and FFA will eventually flip to Class C for a particular spawn, thus evening out over the long run this contrived imbalance of which you're taking a snapshot.

You done trying to argue this point?

[Nirgon]

First they took out the maps

Then they made you sit to camp

Now the pop is 1000+

Suck it

[Fountree]

Thanks for this post Turp. Hopefully it will make a positive impact on our beloved server.

[Rararboker]

Bad ideas all around. If I had an option for 0 star rating, I'd give it.

[Turp]

"Make red a teams PvP Server. Wipe it an remove the XP bonus.
population = increase" - Turp

lol'd at this retard thinking that removing the exp bonus on red would somehow improve population

lol'd hard at this retard that can't read. How did you win EQ? ah yea on shit server with no population. Fake ass title.
L2R bro.
Pretty sure i said make red a teams pvp server , wipe it , and remove xp bonus.
An it will increase population.
In your fluoride ridden brain it reads/
removing the exp bonus on red would improve population.
Idiot.

[Rec]

No the teams server has to be separate so we can prove it's more popular than FFA

[Turp]

I love these "server is dying" posts, when the pop sits at, 500+, 800+, and currently with this particular "server is doomed" post from Turp, 1200+ concurrent players at prime time (who knows how many total players during the course of a month)

There was a time when we were ecstatic and more than content to have 300 players on the server, good times
Where does it say server is dead? The spirit of EQ is dying. not the server. you will always have useful idiots to log in even if everyone else quits.
Ill send you a PM to what this post was really about since you also skim a subject, post nothing of context. than spew bullshit.
Its about a list of about 600 quest that they are saying needs done before velious.
I have solution to fix those quest in 1 month.
Or we can keep saying dumb shit an not getting to the point.
Which in that case velious will be next year (Or longer) .

[Uuruk]

This server is already dead. So much RMT is gross.

[Arteker]

want up, red population? allow for a short period of time to people to choose and copy a single character of blue into red.

[Turp]

Bad ideas all around. If I had an option for 0 star rating, I'd give it.

You hardly can talk. Opinion doesn't matter. Go back to RNF.
Nice edit BTW lol.
Bad typing all around. If i had an option to grade you would get a F- for your shit work. That you even proof read an edited. LOL
Edit: Some people understand it means when you quote a post with no reply. For one it means two are most likely three years old since you don't understand the internet, and two means four which just signifies that I couldn't have said it better than him.
:rolleyes: ooooK

EDIT If you want to make a point ok, ill debate. But if you are gonna troll or post dumb shit or try an derail. Ill post it right back at ya.
Thanks for the bump

[tharp22]

This is not a bash. This is constructive criticism.

It seems you are bashing and cursing at everyone who disagrees or has a differing opinion. Please try to keep it civil. Disagreements will happen. If you feel your opinions were misinterpreted then a simple post clarifying your position will go much further.

Just my two cents.

[Swish]

DISCLAIMER : This is not a bash. This is constructive criticism.
NO RNF please

heheh

[Turp]

It seems you are bashing and cursing at everyone who disagrees or has a differing opinion. Please try to keep it civil. Disagreements will happen. If you feel your opinions were misinterpreted then a simple post clarifying your position will go much further.
Just my two cents.
First. Who disagreed or had a differing valid opinion about the OP? The people who was cursed posted non sense.
They was all trolls or saying shit to incite a response which i gave them.
Bashing back trolls

Kind of like you. Post non sense, say i bash. nit pick dumb shit.
Don't mention Velious or any of the ideas to get it released faster.

Enjoy

[Colgate]

gonna give this guy the benefit of the doubt and guess english isn't his first language

[Turp]

LOL this guy.
I'll just post proof, no need to doubt. This guy has bad English comprehension.


Turns this statement
"Make red a teams PvP Server. Wipe it an remove XP bonus. an u get population increase"
Into this HAHAHAHA
lol'd at this retard thinking that removing the exp bonus on red would somehow improve population
Than says this
gonna give this guy the benefit of the doubt and guess english isn't his first language
Here let me FTFY
gonna give this guy the benefit of the doubt and learn english before i try to read 6,567 posts and i still don't get the English language

[Thulack]

Lol Turp sends me like a 4 page PM bitching and whining about something. Glad i read about 5 words and deleted it. You shoulda spent the time on Beta instead of Pming me bud :)

Edit: make that a 2nd PM. Didnt bother opening that one though. Right to the delete button it went :)

[Raev]

Look, this server needs a) Velious and b) rumbles. That would improve it massively. The staff are working on a), and why they refuse to do b) is a mystery to me.

Team PVP would be cool, but in reality everyone will just join the dark team. IIRC that was what happened on VZ.

[Thulack]

I sent you a copy of what needs tested l2r, figured you wouldn't read. you replied " i just post in every thread an dont read" well that explains the dumb shit you post.
Thanks
is called copy and paste
Keep that post count going. Forum warrior Thulack

Damn i did waste post 3k on you :( .Yeah i am a forum warrior as i dont log in more then once every few weeks to say hi to friends. Raiding here is a joke and i can wait for velious. I played EQ for 15 years between live and p99. I'm enjoying other games and RL more now. So personally i give a rats ass what goes on here anymore as it just makes me laugh when i read forums anymore.

[Turp]

Hah Thulack. I sent you a copy of what needs tested l2r, figured you wouldn't read.
Thanks
is called copy and paste
Keep that post count going. Forum warrior Thulack
4 pages of quests that need done. I offer a good idea,Thulack responds with nothing but dumb shit. Typical no lifer that is on forums an trolling all day everyday.
Hows life?

[Thulack]

Hah Thulack. I sent you a copy of what needs tested l2r, figured you wouldn't read.
Thanks
is called copy and paste
Keep that post count going. Forum warrior Thulack
4 pages of quests that need done. I offer a good idea,Thulack responds with nothing but dumb shit. Typical no lifer that is on forums an trolling all day everyday.
Hows life?

Great. Visiting family in NC. Nice 60 degrees today. Much better then being at home in the 20 degrees and snow. Played a few games of LoL out on the porch while smoking some Royal Kush. Lives good bud thanks for asking.

[Swish]

DISCLAIMER : This is not a bash. This is constructive criticism.
NO RNF please

[Turp]

Damn i did waste post 3k on you :( .Yeah i am a forum warrior as i dont log in more then once every few weeks to say hi to friends. Raiding here is a joke and i can wait for velious. I played EQ for 15 years between live and p99. I'm enjoying other games and RL more now. So personally i give a rats ass what goes on here anymore as it just makes me laugh when i read forums anymore.

So you don't care about this server or play here. You just post to try an start a internet fight? I don't get it but good luck with that.
Better luck with youtube i'd guess.
I put out an idea to speed velious beta test.
That 4 pages i sent you was 4 pages of stuff that needs tested. Since you said its rogeans box an do what he says, i linked you what he says to do. You are the type of person that will not take any facts. all about the rustle. which doesn't work here.
try world of warcraft maybe?

I will be responding to anyone with serious thoughts. But looks like it will go no where. Sad really , people rather wait 2-3 years for Velious instead of trying to fix the quest now.
People are running around trying to solo do those quest. They might get it done, in a few years.

[Joyelle]

If you call everyone who disagrees with you a troll and dismiss all dissenting opinions as invalid, how can you really expect to receive constructive criticism? Sounds like the only place you'd get what you're looking for is your guild's forum. Perhaps you should have posted this there instead.

This whole thread is a troll and you're obviously fishing for RnF posts.

[Thulack]

Nothing you posted is anything that hasnt already been said and as stated you dont even have your facts straight. I visit the forums cause i get bored and like to keep up with times incase i do come back when velious comes out. WoW not my thing. tried it out 10 years ago but ehh stayed with EQ. As i said raiding is a joke here and i have nothing to do other then wait for velious. As i dont feel like using my time to beta test velious i get to sit by and wait. I'm not making posts complaining its not here or anything. I'm doing what any person who doesnt want to use their time to beta test should do. Sit and wait.

[Joyelle]

I don't have time to sift through this thread where every other post is you berating the person who posted before. You're volatile. Let it go.

[Turp]

If you call everyone who disagrees with you a troll and dismiss all dissenting opinions as invalid, how can you really expect to receive constructive criticism? Sounds like the only place you'd get what you're looking for is your guild's forum. Perhaps you should have posted this there instead.

This whole thread is a troll and you're obviously fishing for RnF posts.
You are the one fishing for posts. Why even respond here?
Who disagreed with me please Joyelle?
I only called colgate a troll or anyone who never even mentioned anything i said in the original OP.
Just like you. You post nothing about what i said. you are all the same lol

Every post i CLEARLY said make a point and ill debate or hear ya out. But every post is nothing to do with Velious release or anything i posted.
Its about dumb shit like you just posted.
Will be waiting for Joyelle to show who had some opinions. Cmon now, there are so many you had to say it. Please show me who i called a troll that was trying to say something constructive. I bet Joy finds one after calling me out on that...wait what???
I don't have time to sift through this thread where every other post is you berating the person who posted before. You're volatile. Let it go.
Oh no, there was so many but you can't find one. Yup. You sure are right...
I berated the people who berated or made a dumb comment or took what i said out of context or completely rearranged my words.
Anyone with a valid point i talked to.
You don't have time because there is none , yours is just another post like theirs.
Doesnt mention Velious - Red - Casinos - anything OP.
Your post is Meaningless an pointless. Trying to say i call people trolls every post yet cant show 1 example of me calling someone out? I have been defense not offense.
Are you TMO Joyelle?

Nothing you posted is anything that hasnt already been said
Speaking about yourself there.
I talked about Velious new idea an easy fixes.
Red
Casino
Few other things.
You talked about me. Talked about what i posted. How i posted.
Just weak attacks to try an fight. Dumb

[Swish]

DISCLAIMER : This is not a bash. This is constructive criticism.
NO RNF please

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfgkkgZfyP1qzdf0go1_500.gif

[Argh]

Who disagreed with me please Joyelle?

Literally everyone.

[Joyelle]

whole bunch of dumb shit

Holy shit you really are a psychopath. here's an idea. Lose the anger, lose the condescention, lose the entitlement, get your facts correct, and maybe you'll get some good ideas posted here.

P.S., no, I am not TMO. I would rather have razorblades and alcohol pads simultaneously inserted into my rectum.

[Thulack]

Speaking about yourself there.
1.I talked about Velious new idea an easy fixes.
2.Red
3.Casino
Few other things.
You talked about me. Talked about what i posted. How i posted.
Just weak attacks to try an fight. Dumb

As i said everything you mentioned has been brought up before.

[Turp]

Holy shit you really are a psychopath. here's an idea. Have razorblades and alcohol pads simultaneously inserted into my rectum.

Lol you are a psychopath. Who says that?

[Argh]

So get to testing. We got 4 pages of quest that need done. If my idea so bad get on it.
Shouldn't you be testing since you are so eagerly anticipating Velious? Or you're just more of a big picture kinda guy?

[Thulack]

Ah someone has mentioned we need GM powers because those 4 pages of quest are going to take insane amount of time to do solo?
Please link that i couldn't find.
Thanks



So get to testing. We got 4 pages of quest that need done. If my idea so bad get on it.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1745190

Only took 1 minute to find too. Not gonna spend the rest of my vaction doing your forum searching though.

[Turp]

Shouldn't you be testing since you are so eagerly anticipating Velious? Or you're just more of a big picture kinda guy?
Its not how testing is suppose to be done. You've never tested before for a company i guess. This kind of "testing" is what you call "stalling".

[radditsu]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/030/403/YouMad.jpg

[Joyelle]

Lol you are a psychopath.
an you make no sense have not shown 1 post of me being anger. But plenty of you posting random stuff that has nothing to do with any post made before your first.
Good day.

no, you!

[Thulack]

That shit got no where. We really need it, to speed up things.
But yea to many derail forum players who would rather post on a forum than help in the game.
we know you love forum.

Cause this post is gonna go further :)

[Turp]

Here are the mobs that died this week and the class they belonged to:

2015-02-08 02:56 (EST) | Trakanon (Class-C)
2015-02-08 12:05 (EST) | Maestro (Class-C)
2015-02-10 08:50 (EST) | Draco (Class-C)
2015-02-10 13:46 (EST) | Lord Nagafen (Class-C)
2015-02-11 01:04 (EST) | Venril Sathir (Class-R)
2015-02-11 01:13 (EST) | Talendor (FFA)
2015-02-11 01:25 (EST) | Trakanon (Class-R)
2015-02-11 01:48 (EST) | Innoruuk (Class-R)
2015-02-11 11:58 (EST) | Severilous (Class-R)
2015-02-11 15:15 (EST) | Cazic Thule (FFA)
2015-02-11 15:43 (EST) | Maestro (Class-R)
2015-02-11 20:50 (EST) | Faydedar (Class-R)
2015-02-12 02:02 (EST) | Lady Vox (FFA)
2015-02-13 03:00 (EST) | Gorenaire (Class-C)
2015-02-14 07:02 (EST) | Trakanon (FFA)
2015-02-14 07:59 (EST) | Dracoliche (Class-R)



How do FFA mobs count as class-R mobs? Are you unaware that class-c can kill them aswell?

Here is a venn diagram to help you with how access to mobs work:

http://i.imgur.com/JjSJo8A.png

Even if it were the case (and it's not) that there were 11 R mobs to 1 C mob this week, it means that in 2 weeks it would be 11 C mobs to 1 R mobs, since that is how a cycle works.


They're free to join Class-R by following the simple procedure posted in the Raid Discussion section.




100% they do not care about this shit post. Every position you have is either wrong or based on a premise that is wrong.

Shitty graph.
How does That play out? Elaborate more please.

[Turp]

Cause this post is gonna go further :)

With people like you that don't play just forum all day an night? Yea don't expect anything to get done on here.
Idiot.

[Joyelle]

O yea let it go once you get called out.
You Dont have time? Got time to try an slander me but nahhh you cant pull up 1 bit of proof to back your bullshit.
You do Have time to post the bullshit though.
Every other post is someone attacking me and i defend. learn the difference. TMO's finest.
Thanks

lol.. TMO = troll I guess? Or have you turncoated already like the rest of your buddies that defected to IB?

[Turp]

lol.. TMO = troll I guess? Or have you turncoated already like the rest of your buddies that defected to IB?

Lol Joy tries to act all cool. When every post is really trying to incite in disguise.
Your trolls need to make people mad not laugh.
fail

[Calibretto]

Shouldn't you be testing since you are so eagerly anticipating Velious? Or you're just more of a big picture kinda guy?

http://media3.giphy.com/media/nT2BHPvnQmT4Y/200.gif

[Joyelle]

Lol Joy tries to act all cool. When every post is really trying to incite in disguise.
Your trolls need to make people mad not laugh.
fail

mad.

[Turp]

no, you!

[Joyelle]

mad.

actually I'm pretty happy, watching your thread backfire on you.

[Turp]

mad.

actually I'm pretty happy, watching your thread backfire on you.

When people take time to try an help server of strangers.
an your only thoughts are to say dumb shit an troll.
An That makes you happy?
Thee definition of someone with no life.
Sad sad man.or Woman who knows with that psychoness

[McnealJ]

Lol at all these angry nerds. Good work Turp telling it like it is, they just can't handle the truth

[Joyelle]

lol I like how you delete posts in this thread and repost them later.

[Joyelle]

Sad sad man.or Woman who knows with that psychoness

wouldn't you like to know

[Lojik]

.http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/77999607aideh_sm.jpg

[Turp]

Yea they can enjoy few more year of kunark.

[Nuktari]

http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/77999607aideh_sm.jpg

http://media2.giphy.com/media/t8Tx4fXHytvqw/200.gif

[captnamazing]

move this to RNF

[Joyelle]

move this to RNF

[Joyelle]

can't defend his original post so edits and completely obliterates it. move to RnF

[Lyrith]

My one comment on not taken anyone's side has now been requested of me to up vote this thread because he wants GM powers on Beta.

I don't care about your GM powers Buddy, I came here for one point. Donating to the server will only help.

:Cheers Mates:

[Sikorsky]

move this to RNF

Agreed, and done.

[Cecily]

Server chat RnF is the best kind of RnF.

[Alunova]

When people take time to try an help server of strangers.
an your only thoughts are to say dumb shit an troll.

Yeah.

Anyway, this is not a race for us, it's a hobby. We are still chugging along and will release when it is ready to be released and not before. There is always work going on behind the scenes. 10th ring event alone is over 600 lines of unique code from at least 3 developers and needed several functions created, hundreds of spawn placements, grids, waypoints, loot tables, items, stat adjustments, text etc. etc. and it's not even finished. Nothing is stagnant, it just takes a long time to piece together, research and reverse engineer some of these events.

[Doors]

Your suggestions for the red server are shit bro. If you haven't played the box don't make suggestions about how to improve it.

[coki]

person tries to help kinda sorta in his own way and view and community bashes /thread moved to RnF.... typical

[Turp]

Yeah.

Anyway, this is not a race for us, it's a hobby. We are still chugging along and will release when it is ready to be released and not before. There is always work going on behind the scenes. 10th ring event alone is over 600 lines of unique code from at least 3 developers and needed several functions created, hundreds of spawn placements, grids, waypoints, loot tables, items, stat adjustments, text etc. etc. and it's not even finished. Nothing is stagnant, it just takes a long time to piece together, research and reverse engineer some of these events.

Damn. Yea if its gonna take over 7 more months just to do 1 quest on that list.
Than you guys will get velious in a few years.
Dumb fucks didn't see a good idea when it hit em in the face all they see is troll time.
Good luck with that.

Cobalt Scar
Incomplete
Kelorek's Scales - Incomplete

Dragon Necropolis
Key to Jaled Dar's Lair (Neb) - Incomplete - Kegluas has items, need faction.
Key to Jaled Dar's Lair (Zlandicar) - Incomplete
Key to Sleeper's Tomb - Multiple Dragons
Yelinak - Incomplete (possibly added later?)


Kael Drakkal
Incomplete
Coldain Military Wristguard Quest - Incomplete
Custom Plate Helms - Kael - Incomplete
Mask of War - Incomplete
Strategies of the Ancient Dragons - Incomplete
Vkjor's Minor Task - Incomplete
Wenglawks The Traitor - Incomplete
Yelinak's Head - Incomplete

Kael Armor Quests

Druid
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Enchanter
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Magician
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Monk
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Paladin
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Ranger
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Rogue
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shadowknight
Arms
Bracers
Chest - Complete - Nodnard
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shaman
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Warrior
Arms
Bracers
Chest - Confirmed - Kegluas
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Wizard
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs

Plane of Growth
Incomplete
Scrolls of the Ancient Totem - Incomplete
The Four Idols - Incomplete
The Lost Tome - Incomplete
Broken/Unavailable
Natures Defender Quest - Unable to Complete - PoHate not available in beta

Plane of Mischief - This zone has lots of rewards for some quests. Please look here for information and quest lists.

Skyshrine
Incomplete
Custom Plate Helm: Skyshrine - Incomplete Later On
Friend of the Kin - Incomplete
Hsagra's Wrath Quest - Incomplete
Strike Home Toe the Giants - Incomplete
Tormax's Head - Dragons - Incomplete
Broken/Unavailable
Boysenberry Pie Quest - Incomplete - Broken?

Skyshrine Quest Armor
Bard
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Cleric
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Druid
Arms
Bracers - Confirmed - Kindadar
Chest - Confirmed - Notserp
Feet - Confirmed - Erati
Hands
Head
Legs - Confirmed - Kindadar
Enchanter
Arms - Confirmed - Noni
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs - Confirmed - Noni
Magician
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Monk
Arms - Confirmed - Hokushin
Bracers
Chest - Confirmed - Hokushin
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Paladin
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Ranger
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Rogue
Arms
Bracers
Chest - Confirmed - Feign
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shadowknight
Arms
Bracers
Chest - Confirmed - Vidarr
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shaman
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet - Confirmed Battletoad
Hands
Head
Legs
Warrior
Arms - Confirmed - Blakthorn
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Wizard
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs

Temple of Veeshan
Incomplete
Request of the Arcane - Incomplete
Test of Protection - Incomplete
Test of the Emerald Tear - Incomplete
Test of the Fire Storm - Incomplete
Test of the Living Flame - Incomplete
Test of the Platinum Tear - Incomplete
Test of the Ruby Tear - Incomplete
Test of the Tooth - Incomplete
The First Arcane Test - Incomplete
The Second Arcane Test - Incomplete
Wisdom: The Long Battle - Incomplete
Wisdom: The Short Battle - Incomplete

Thurgadin Armor Quests
Bard
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Enchanter
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Magician
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Monk
Arms
Bracers - Confirmed - Hokushin
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head - Confirmed - Hokushin
Legs - Confirmed - Hokushin
Paladin
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Ranger
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Rogue
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shadowknight
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs
Shaman
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet -
Hands
Head
Legs
Wizard
Arms
Bracers
Chest
Feet
Hands
Head
Legs

Wakening Lands
Incomplete
Faerie Dragon Wings - Incomplete
Living Granite - Incomplete
Tunarean Tasks - Incomplete

Western Wastes
Incomplete
Essence Lens - Incomplete
Porlos' Fury - Incomplete

10 in Icewell Keep
Coldain Ring Quest 10 - Incomplete

Coldain Shawl Quests
Coldain Prayer Shawl Quest 5 - Cannot complete - Glowing Wurm Bile not dropping. Is this up-to-date?
Coldain Prayer Shawl Quest 6 - Incomplete
Coldain Prayer Shawl Quest 7 - Incomplete

[Man0warr]

Who cares, it's not their job to work on Velious, it's their hobby.

Go learn Perl if you want to help get it done faster, if not STFU.

[radditsu]

Who cares, it's not their job to work on Velious, it's their hobby.

Go learn Perl if you want to help get it done faster, if not STFU.

This shit is done on other servers. If they want to test just the tov quests you need to kill doze a hundred friggin times. who wants to do that on a beta

[nilbog]

This shit is done on other servers.

lol.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Yeah just copypaste peq that'll work fine...

[Man0warr]

This shit is done on other servers. If they want to test just the tov quests you need to kill doze a hundred friggin times. who wants to do that on a beta

I seriously doubt simple 4-item hand in quests like WToV dozekar stuff is what's bottle necking Velious from being released.

It's probably the ring war, sleeper awakening, complicated shit like that.

[Raev]

10th ring event alone is over 600 lines of unique code from at least 3 developers and needed several functions created, hundreds of spawn placements, grids, waypoints, loot tables, items, stat adjustments, text etc. etc. and it's not even finished. Nothing is stagnant, it just takes a long time to piece together, research and reverse engineer some of these events.

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/218/8/5/its_stiffy_time_baby_by_bilalshaw-d5a2d6n.jpg

[radditsu]

I seriously doubt simple 4-item hand in quests like WToV dozekar stuff is what's bottle necking Velious from being released.

It's probably the ring war, sleeper awakening, complicated shit like that.

Not one page before is a list of incomplete quests..

[Man0warr]

Not one page before is a list of incomplete quests..

Incomplete, or havent been tested personally? Big difference.

[Raev]

Some of both. When I tested a PoG quest, Nilbog said the quest hadn't even been written. Nilbog is a fanatic about quests, and I'm sure that getting everything verified would be a huge step forward for Velious.

Anyone who hasn't verified at least one quest is doing it wrong imo.

[Man0warr]

I'm just saying that the simple "hand in these 4 item quests" are the least of our worries - they have a list already.

Stuff like Mischief combines/quests, Ring war, etc are much more an issue.

[Turp]

This shit is done on other servers. If they want to test just the tov quests you need to kill doze a hundred friggin times. who wants to do that on a beta

thats was my point. But to many trolls on forums.
If they gave just a few people a little GM power they could knock out 70% or more of those quests easy.
Checking the drop rate. Checking the spawn rate. Checking the loot table. Checking the quest turn in works an all dialogue.
Instead of trying to kill Doze 100 times by yourself (impossible) you need a big raid. Why not help us solo it so we can test it faster? It just seems to stall.
All i offered was an idea to speed velious beta testing up an people turned it into a rant.

That is why you will not see velious done for a very long time
Never said i didnt appreciate the work being done. just said i think we could speed it up.

[Turp]

I seriously doubt simple 4-item hand in quests like WToV dozekar stuff is what's bottle necking Velious from being released. the ring war, sleeper awakening, complicated shit like that.
How can you seriously doubt it??
When its clearly posted we need this list done to move on.
The ring war is one part of the list.
I just linked the list that is cock blocking velious release.
An 90% on that list is 4 item hand in quests like ToV.
The others are armor quests an stuff.
Things people are not gonna take the time to do on Beta.
Well unless we had the ability to insta kill the mob, insta spawn it, check its loots, check dialogue etc. Than yea people might help. But currently its setup to stall the release.

Dunno why Nilbog just lol. I think because He know its gonna take awhile an that is the plan so LOL?
They expect us to raid ToV an ungodly amount of times to get the items to test. No ones gonna do it. I don't understand what else the devs want? There is only 1 list.
That quest list could be knocked off in 1 week but they want us to do it manually an take who knows, maybe years.

smh

[Safon]

I see this has found it's way to Rants and Flames, I am shocked

[iruinedyourday]

What makes you think a teams server won't end up with 80% of people on one (successful) team?

Something to consider.

go go good guys!

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