Werent Halfling rangers introduced in Velious?

[gobbosnobbo]

I could have sworn they were at some point, either midway through or at the end.

[Evia]

Nah it was around the luclin era. I think like shortly after luclin released. Halflings could be rangers and paladins, gnomes SK's and Paladins, and I think that was it?

EDIT: it may have been at the end of velious though because I remember selling everything I had when horses came out so I could buy my new halfling paladin a 9k horse. I think it was the beginning of luclin though.

[Ele]

Couple of months into Luclin.

[maskedmelon]

I had thought this didn't happen 'til around PoP for some reason =/

[Thulack]

March 19, 2002
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- Halflings and Gnomes have new classes available to them: Halfling
Rangers and Paladins as well as Gnome ShadowKnights and Paladins. All
of the necessary NPCs and items should be available for these new
classes.


As a Halfling Ranger main for 10 years on Live it saddens me that Thulack in his true form would never be seen here.

[Chrysus]

There is so little diversity in eq/p99, or even the opportunity for diversity, this is the one non-classic change I'd welcome. The fact that min/maxers wouldn't ever make these race/classes makes it that much better. Who knows, maybe after 10 years of Velious...

[bloodmuffin]

There is so little diversity in eq/p99, or even the opportunity for diversity, this is the one non-classic change I'd welcome. The fact that min/maxers wouldn't ever make these race/classes makes it that much better. Who knows, maybe after 10 years of Velious...

Agreed but let's save that until Velious gets a little stale. There's a lot of ideas that could be implemented in the future once people have their fill of classic content.

[Swish]

All race/all class combos in EQ2 kinda ruined my immersion, not sure about you pals :p

Ogre wizards, high elf SKs, etc.

[Mentathiel]

All race/all class combos in EQ2 kinda ruined my immersion, not sure about you pals :p

Ogre wizards, high elf SKs, etc.
In 2004-era EQ2, the only way to become a high-elf SK was to betray Qeynos, then slowly earn the trust (or at least tolerance) of Freeport over the course of a long quest-line which left you homeless and unable to enter either capital.

When you saw a 'good' race playing an evil class or a dark-elf paladin, you knew there was some important background going on there. They had earned it with blood, sweat and tears. That kind of improved my immersion.

And then they just let anyone do it...

[fastboy21]

Early Luclin sounds close enough to me...

i would like to see halfling wangers!

[Mentathiel]

Isn't there still one halfling paladin running around because they got in before the restrictions were introduced?

[Farzo]

In 2004-era EQ2, the only way to become a high-elf SK was to betray Qeynos, then slowly earn the trust (or at least tolerance) of Freeport over the course of a long quest-line which left you homeless and unable to enter either capital.

When you saw a 'good' race playing an evil class or a dark-elf paladin, you knew there was some important background going on there. They had earned it with blood, sweat and tears. That kind of improved my immersion.

And then they just let anyone do it...

yah was about to say they made the betrayal questline so easy in the end you could do it in an afternoon lol got dayum wowified shit.

[Swish]

would you trade cats on the moon for gnome SK playability?... i would ;)

[myriverse]

Nah... gimme cats!

[webrunner5]

Sucks you can't make a Gnome SK even in Velious. :( Little people screwed again as usual.

[fadetree]

Halfling 'Rangers' are an abomination.

Thulak, you get grandfathered in, because 10 years Ranger main.

[maskedmelon]

would you trade cats on the moon for gnome SK playability?... i would ;)

Never much cared for EQ's take on anthropomorphic races. Except maybe frogloks. The rest are either ugly or retarded looking. No cat people please.

[maskedmelon]

I should add that I would sacrifice halfling clerics to keep the cat people away. They confuse me.

[Xer0]

Never much cared for EQ's take on anthropomorphic races. Except maybe frogloks. The rest are either ugly or retarded looking. No cat people please.

YOu mean the cat people that literally look like furry humans with tails and ears? You're right. so retarded.

[lllinkk]

Can I race change my ranger to a halfling now please? =D

[Bodybagger]

I really miss gnome sk's and Halfling pallies and rangers... I would even welcome beastlords so long as vah shir and luclin didn't come with them, perhaps even berserkers... I'd see no harm in any of that, it was the extra content that came with the rest that was so bad. You can't have vah shir because you can't have luclin cities.

Beastlord and Berzerker would be fun classes on red for sure!

[Whirled]

Halfling Rangers. This is a sweet combo on other servers.
Probably a pipe dream here...but who knows...

[maskedmelon]

YOu mean the cat people that literally look like furry humans with tails and ears? You're right. so retarded.

I am having trouble here, but think I may detect a scrap of sarcasm in that response -.-;

To me they look more like anorexic elephant seals. Ick...

[MEGANS LAW]

hopefully halfling and gnome classes will be available to us, considering there are no more expansions to look forward to

[Xer0]

I am having trouble here, but think I may detect a scrap of sarcasm in that response -.-;

To me they look more like anorexic elephant seals. Ick...

Your sarcasm sensors are functioning optimally it would seem.

Maybe you're talking about the classic kerrans whereas I'm referring to luclin vah shir? DOn't get me wrong, cat people are silly especially when on the moon, but how much closer to humanoid can you get than a human body with a cat-fur texture a tail and pointed ears? :P

[maskedmelon]

Hmmm you may be right, I could be confusing vah'shir with Kerrans, but I don't think so. I recall them sharing equally hideous mugs. There are plenty of ways to make it more interesting and more appealing. One is asymmetry of the anthropomorphy by varying degrees across different features/parts of the creature. EQ approach was to just anthropomorph the skeleton and call it mission accomplished.

[Xer0]

Hmmm you may be right, I could be confusing vah'shir with Kerrans, but I don't think so. I recall them sharing equally hideous mugs. There are plenty of ways to make it more interesting and more appealing. One is asymmetry of the anthropomorphy by varying degrees across different features/parts of the creature. EQ approach was to just anthropomorph the skeleton and call it mission accomplished.
Admitted: I totally missed the second half of your post until after I'd responded. But yes, I agree they were pretty poorly designed, but a far cry from anything but an anthropomorphized cat :P

Also what gives, the forum here tells me it's anthropomorphized, google search tells me it's speled with an S. WAT DO?!

http://www.castle-grounds.co.uk/eq/images/tf_kerran.jpgvs

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/0/1992/965955-race_vahshir.jpg

[Swish]

Also what gives, the forum here tells me it's anthropomorphized, google search tells me it's speled with an S. WAT DO?!

That's the English spelling, not the American bastard version ;)

[maskedmelon]

I lean on dictionary.com, so "z" would be correct.

[Mentathiel]

What awful cat-people; I mean, we all know FFXIV:ARR had the best cat-girls...
http://s2.postimg.org/xqkqselex/Menta_FFXIV.png (http://postimage.org/)

[Xer0]

What awful cat-people; I mean, we all know FFXIV:ARR had the best cat-girls...
http://s2.postimg.org/xqkqselex/Menta_FFXIV.png (http://postimage.org/)

all my lols

[maskedmelon]

What awful cat-people; I mean, we all know FFXIV:ARR had the best cat-girls...
http://s2.postimg.org/xqkqselex/Menta_FFXIV.png (http://postimage.org/)

They were better, but I think too far in the other direction maybe.


Looking at the pics from xer0 I think the kerrans do look better and am now convinced that the only reason for the weird Vah'shir implementation is the player character model bone structure and need/desire to recycle existing animations. Boooooooo

[myriverse]

What awful cat-people; I mean, we all know FFXIV:ARR had the best cat-girls...
http://s2.postimg.org/xqkqselex/Menta_FFXIV.png (http://postimage.org/)
Bah! That's just a human in makeup.

And looks like a guy.

[Formshifter]

There is so little diversity in eq/p99, or even the opportunity for diversity, this is the one non-classic change I'd welcome. The fact that min/maxers wouldn't ever make these race/classes makes it that much better. Who knows, maybe after 10 years of Velious...

Speaking of non-classic changes..



AA, muthafucka (read: devs), can we have it?

[Formshifter]

What awful cat-people; I mean, we all know FFXIV:ARR had the best cat-girls...
http://s2.postimg.org/xqkqselex/Menta_FFXIV.png (http://postimage.org/)

FFXI had the best cat girls and thats final.



...fantasy 11



im sorry.

[Clark]

Halflings rangers were awesome. Especially pvp.

[Xer0]

FFXI had the best cat girls and thats final.



...fantasy 11



im sorry.
It's okay to be wrong.

[Aleks.J]

I think the kerran looks better.. Also Beastlords.. damn would be sweet to see that class back.

[Arclyte]

halflings are a blight on all they touch. you all should be glad halflings get to be anything besides rogue.

[Itap]

I would vote to remove the halfling race entirely

[gauntlet]

I think Halfling rangers were Luclin.

[Thulack]

Halfling 'Rangers' are an abomination.

Thulak, you get grandfathered in, because 10 years Ranger main.

Trust me i know how it works. Spent 10 years with everyone hating me cause i was a ranger and then rangers hated me because i was a halfling. There was no love for me!

[fadetree]

Now, now. They just shouldn't be Rangers or Paladins. They make perfectly acceptable varieties of the rest of the classes they had.

[kaev]

I would vote to remove the halfling race entirely

Tempting, very tempting