Get rid of LnS

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I was on Brobby being apart of the 11Azrael members that forced 33+ Holocaust to call guild LnS. One of those players being Skar. I quickly switched to Dango to buff the new croots heading to VP To provide assistance to us in VP when as soon as I loaded in I had a tstaff monk hitting me in KC. I quickly zoned on poor low hp Dango, to be slained by this scumbag who I just watched die in VP on his main character.

This is of course directly after his guild calls Loot n Scoot. Sirken jumped to the sound of the Coward Conner, kind of like when a parent hears his 2month old crying you quickly get out of bed to calm him down. That is what sirken was doing for CowardlyColgate. He then realized that this was no cry for food, but crying because he wanted toys, but it was bed time so Sirken made the right choice and decided to put the pacifier back in the Cowards mouth and tell him to scoot along, you broke the rules.

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Honestly, I logged in Dango to head to VP to buff people that were heading that way so we didn't have to waste time. I logged in, got attacked by Assault, I quickly tashed him AFTER being attacked and then realized wait a minute, this fucker is on Loot n Scoot, so I kind of played like a normal Holocaust member and tried to kill him on a buffless already half hp Enchanter. BUT, I was heading towards VP to buff people. This was DEFINITELY a violation of Guild LnS.


fucking brobb, lol

[HippoNipple]

I was on Brobby being apart of the 11Azrael members that forced 33+ Holocaust to call guild LnS. One of those players being Skar. I quickly switched to Dango to buff the new croots heading to VP To provide assistance to us in VP when as soon as I loaded in I had a tstaff monk hitting me in KC. I quickly zoned on poor low hp Dango, to be slained by this scumbag who I just watched die in VP on his main character.

This is of course directly after his guild calls Loot n Scoot. Sirken jumped to the sound of the Coward Conner, kind of like when a parent hears his 2month old crying you quickly get out of bed to calm him down. That is what sirken was doing for CowardlyColgate. He then realized that this was no cry for food, but crying because he wanted toys, but it was bed time so Sirken made the right choice and decided to put the pacifier back in the Cowards mouth and tell him to scoot along, you broke the rules.

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Honestly, I logged in Dango to head to VP to buff people that were heading that way so we didn't have to waste time. I logged in, got attacked by Assault, I quickly tashed him AFTER being attacked and then realized wait a minute, this fucker is on Loot n Scoot, so I kind of played like a normal Holocaust member and tried to kill him on a buffless already half hp Enchanter. BUT, I was heading towards VP to buff people. This was DEFINITELY a violation of Guild LnS.

What do you think the LnS rules mean for a guild when they call it?

[Eslade]

the way that holocaust is trying to manipulate the lns rules is not only against the spirit of the rule but it's also detrimental to them in the long run. it's fun to watch.

[HippoNipple]

Hipponipple, what do you think it means? They all can log in alts to start killing people who are running to VP? While they loot their corpses?


What zone did you die in?

[Pikrib]

I don't think Hippo even plays on this server its kinda pointless to respond to his posts.

[HippoNipple]

If a guild gives up on a raid and calls LNS they can still play the game and PvP in other zones. If they are setting up road blocks in Skyfire that would be a violation. You can't expect everyone in a competing guild to know every enemies intentions when they are several zones away. It is unreasonable. Calling LNS isn't disabling PvP on the server for 1 hour.

[HippoNipple]

I don't think Hippo even plays on this server its kinda pointless to respond to his posts.

It is sad to see a Planar Protector speak such things, what scum.

[Pikrib]

It is sad to see a Planar Protector speak such things, what scum.

So you do play?

[HippoNipple]

So you do play?

I log on some alts every now and then. Will start playing again if Velious is released.

[Eslade]

If a guild gives up on a raid and calls LNS they can still play the game and PvP in other zones. If they are setting up road blocks in Skyfire that would be a violation. You can't expect everyone in a competing guild to know every enemies intentions when they are several zones away. It is unreasonable. Calling LNS isn't disabling PvP on the server for 1 hour.

are you retarded? when you call lns, you are able to run through whatever zones that you have to in order to get your body. you're also able to use alts and people unrelated to the pvp to help with the cr.

by your definition, it's the job of the winning side to catalog corpses and keep a list of who died.

when a guild calls a lns all hostilities between the guilds are supposed to stop in order to let them get their bodies.

[Pikrib]

If a guild gives up on a raid and calls LNS they can still play the game and PvP in other zones. If they are setting up road blocks in Skyfire that would be a violation. You can't expect everyone in a competing guild to know every enemies intentions when they are several zones away. It is unreasonable. Calling LNS isn't disabling PvP on the server for 1 hour.

Ex.
8 holo and 8 azrael are pvping in sol B over Ragefire. Azrael stomps Holo out in Sol B and Holo calls LnS. Instead of Holo going back to loot corpses some log in alts and camp the Nek spires for Azrael stragglers.

That not really LnS is it?

BTW KC evac is the closest port to VP.

[HippoNipple]

Ex.
8 holo and 8 azrael are pvping in sol B over Ragefire. Azrael stomps Holo out in Sol B and Holo calls LnS. Instead of Holo going back to loot corpses some log in alts and camp the Nek spires for Azrael stragglers.

That not really LnS is it?

BTW KC evac is the closest port to VP.

Lol yeah people playing on alts in KC is just like sitting at nek spires. Lots of stuff going on in Nek.

[Pikrib]

I think Hippo is semi retarded there is no point in responding to his posts.

FIFM

[HippoNipple]

FIFM

Such edgy responses paired with a dude sucking another guy off in signature. Internet bad ass over here.

[Pikrib]

It aint easy being soulless ginger internet badass.

[Eslade]

naw that's fucking dumb and i've been a part of azrael LNS's to tactically move to another zone to fight vs. nihilum and we certainly started pvping them immediately upon arrival into the zone we were setting up in

you guys were just looking for any tiny excuse to get some precious YT's, but you broke PnP rules to do it.

difference being that azrael was done with their loot and scoot before engaging nihilum elsewhere. stop being disingenuous and just accept that you guys fucked up and were lucky that azrael didn't feel like letting the ban hammer come down on one of you.

[HippoNipple]

naw

Getting trolled at this point. It would be more productive talking to BK about a 1v1.

[Drakaris]

Brobb basically admitted to buffing non-vp keyed players engaged in pvp, admitted to casting offensive spells, give me a break. He deliberately set this up for rule lawyering purposes. You already had kecleon in vp, so how many chanters do you honestly think you need?

Obvious troll to pnp is obvious.

[Drakaris]

Now the truth behind this all was drakar was at 50% by entrance with jboots camped out and I was going to assist with the cr, but azrael were camping the zoneline with their unkeyed pvpers, such as erock. Assault was used to try and break them up from the area since they were failing to honor lns and were corpse camping players at their bind, see burgerkings yt for Colgate as an example.

[filthyphil]

The play nice rules are just thrown around in peoples face on this server to scare or threaten them. Additionally if you aren't recording your gameplay there is no way to prove anything. Very rarely is it actually used to play nice. Nerds will be nerds.

[harnold]

why not just disable corpse runs instead of having to deal with stupid lns rules/rule lawyering

[abbud]

drakar u srs or?
it took colgate like 15-20min to call guild lns, colgate was dead long before that.

idk if he tried to bait you into violating lns, which would be pretty shady... but you are an old neckbeard here and should know better then to fall for shit like that when you personally on guild LnS with another character.

You probably just went on a mad rage outside KC, tunnelvisioned and did not realize you were violating lns, i can feelers u tho. Killing you guys on rez did make me want to take a shower after. It was not a cool move, but you started it no question about it.

[Grimjaw]

Incorrect.

"Here is the response from CS regarding the policies..

On Rallos Zek, PvP-related Play Nice Policy situations are expected to be resolved using PvP solutions. However, Non PvP-related Play Nice Policy issues, such as training, causing intentional experience loss, bind point, zone, and portal camping, as well as other various forms of harassment, are not permitted in the PvP environment.

Of course everything depends on if we can prove their intentions or witness the actions in some way, so our response will be somewhat situational. With that said, the situation(s) that this person described would be handled as follows:

If raid X had yet to engage in the encounter, the raid should find a PvP solution.
If both raid X and Y engage simultaneously, they should find a PvP solution.
If raid X had engaged in the encounter and it was disrupted through PvP by group Y who did not have adequate force to have a reasonable chance for the encounter, we will enforce the PnP.
If raid X had engaged in the encounter and it was disrupted through PvP by group Y who did have adequate force to have a reasonable chance for the encounter, raid X should find a PvP solution.
If raid X had engaged in the encounter and it was disrupted through PvP by group Y by training, we will enforce the PnP."

what does this wall of text have to do with loot and scoot not being a player made and player enforced rule (aside for the first sentence saying PNP is resolved by the players, thus proving my point LOL)? says nothing about bind rushing, corpse camping, LNS, etc

[Bazia]

Get rid of LnS

[Colgate]

I want sub-100 population at peak hours again

[Crazycloud]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Bazia]

Dont care if pop is higher when its people who dont pvp that literally camp when you zone in

[Crazycloud]

Stasis Holocaust Kecleon Azrael Old Sebilis 1.04 January 02 2015 9:45:46 PM

There's pvp and not everyone camps

You just want to grief, end of story.

[Bazia]

stasis played when pop was low

point makes no sense

and not worrying about people who can skype sirken immediately and tell him a one sided story where he wipes entire raids with DTs when I have to wait 4 weeks for even a response to a petition thread would be nice

[Crazycloud]

stasis played when pop was low

point makes no sense

and pvp is not grief

PvP is not grief? remember when az griefed you off the server? you crying all day you cant get XP groups in KC cuz you kept getting rolled?

PLEASE SON don't even go there.

And my point was when you posted there's no pvp, you had died to pvp, so obviously there was pvp and you aren't a champ.

[Bazia]

az griefing me off the server?

are u high and/or retarded

[Crazycloud]

Az griefed the shit out of you before you were in holo and you cried all day in /ooc and tried to form groups in KC.

Now that you got your gear you're pretty much doing the same shit you didn't want to be done to you.

Are you high and/or retarded?

[Bazia]

I joined holo at level 43 and leveled exclusively in kedge with the guild 48-60

I have literally no idea what the fuck you are talking about

[Crazycloud]

Kecleon your only char? stop acting clueless

[Bazia]

only character in range to any azrael yes

ur not making sense

[Crazycloud]

Azrael has characters from level 49-60 all decked out. Hell i even got my PS KS'd from me by a OOR azrael twink back in the days, good thing i got another one to spawn an hour later.

^^ this guy playing dumb, I'm done with this clown!

[Bazia]

done making weird shit up

ok

[HippoNipple]

Also could have been when it was 8 level range, it wasn't that long ago. As Rexx would say, I don't care.

[Bazia]

idk ive only been playing last 4 months range was always 4

[Bazia]

guild called LnS and sits in the zone for an hour and a half

can tell ally guild best time to attack

shit needs to go

[Farzo]

Tone those resist changes down imho.

logged in for more than 15 mins today and had chanters tash/mez/root quest me at ZLs for 10 mins of that time lol.

Escaped Twerk and Brobby @ 2% health

*loads cure poison* tash is now v.dangerous coupled with root.

wtb crim pots for the first time.

[Bazia]

it takes over an hour to rez and drag people from the ledge in seb????????

[Bazia]

im not even in seb

[Ragnaros]

azrael is in rags too

[quido]

I prefer my rags of the naros variety

UR ALL SICK

[baalzy]

Are these Azrael rags?
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