TMO in R with FE

[Clasick]

Damn yall are cleaning up, pretty soon tmo really is going to come seek refuge in R with the rest of us

It's happening !

I am the Guildleader of Forceful Entry, i am removing all access of any non Forceful Entry Members as we speak. This guild is is classless at the moment.

also, there are no rules saying if you are in one guild, you can't be in an other guild.

there are no rules saying if you are in one guild, you can't be in an other guildthere are no rules saying if you are in one guild, you can't be in an other guildthere are no rules saying if you are in one guild, you can't be in an other guildthere are no rules saying if you are in one guild, you can't be in an other guild

TMO in R with FE double dipping
/discuss

[toosweet]

How do I get in on this?
C/R scum

[Sirken]

Chest and I discussed this exact topic monday night over at : http://youtu.be/-dWWLDMLwXM

enjoy ;)

[Ravager]

Chest and I discussed this exact topic monday night over at : http://youtu.be/-dWWLDMLwXM

enjoy ;)

I'm not listening to you and Chest for two hours. Someone sum it up in a sentence.

[Tasslehofp99]

my god that is entertaining

[Tasslehofp99]

I'm not listening to you and Chest for two hours. Someone sum it up in a sentence.

basically its chest being angry the entire time

double post huhhhhhhh

[Shinko]

this is like saying

BDA and omni is the same guild and having two guilds in class R to beat the lockout system.

since most of omni is X BDA

[Shinko]

Think i be willing to risk getting banned? I already knew the rules and Forceful Entry WILL not be a TMO ALT guild.

That being Said, Like Being in the Spotlight?

forceful-entry.com

[arsenalpow]

this is like saying

BDA and omni is the same guild and having two guilds in class R to beat the lockout system.

since most of omni is X BDA

Except that was a contentious situation that I opposed.

If you want to completely leave TMO then do that Shinko. Don't have your TMO characters and then have alts that you pretend aren't even you to create a new guild for.

[Shinko]

im off to work Rage on

[Alarti0001]

Chest and I discussed this exact topic monday night over at : http://youtu.be/-dWWLDMLwXM

enjoy ;)

You remind me of Loly!

[Anichek]

Chest and I discussed this exact topic monday night over at : http://youtu.be/-dWWLDMLwXM

enjoy ;)


Chestream makes Sirken's signature. Bright lights, big city for Our Glorious Dear Leader Chest.

[Godefroi]

Lol chest, find something to do with your life, please.

[Clasick]

So Shinko = Boti ?
Why would you make a comment in your guild recruitment thread saying there is no rule about having characters in multiple guilds then come here and say there will be no alts In Your guild.... This whole thing sounds fishy

Multiple personality disorder ?
Sounds legit

[Aadill]

Don't get mad unless your name is Chest, dude.. it's cool. Shinko is a mutli-guild veteran.

[toolshed]

Just make a class C guild will all the people in the class R guilds that want to kill/keyed for VP

[toolshed]

just kidding <3

[Tasslehofp99]

Just make a class C guild will all the people in the class R guilds that want to kill/keyed for VP

this would probably be a welcomed thing

[Ravager]

this would probably be a welcomed thing

For 2 months until you guys want a merger.

[quido]

merger with the bergers

[radditsu]

Enter them forcefully

[Aadill]

merger with the bergers

what the fuck you missed the chance to say merger with the spergers.

[Aadill]

It just sounds better >:[

[Hitpoint]

Just make a class C guild will all the people in the class R guilds that want to kill/keyed for VP

Why doesn't this exist yet?

[TMBLOW]

Why doesn't this exist yet?

people enjoy their current friends over shitty VP loot

[Daldaen]

Why doesn't this exist yet?

Because we care more about our guilds or our sleep or our jobs to leave and try to be competitive in 16-hour wall staring or noon on a workday server respawns, than we do about pixels.

[Hitpoint]

Well, it's none of my business but both of those concerns can be avoided easily and still allow you to kill VP dragons once in a while.

[Daldaen]

Once in awhile (or even 6/6 every week) isn't worth leaving your guild and friends in said guild. That is the point though.

Not many people really care about VP pixels. By and large, they blow. Almost nothing for casters, the few caster pieces most are pretty meh. Rend Robe, GH staff, Soul Well staff are all cool. PD Crown, Ear, Robe and Cloak are cool too.

Are they cool enough to say peace out to my/our guilds, join a conglomerate of people that you have no guarantee whether you will like them/work well with them, etc. Ima go with a no.

I have friends in a few different guilds, as I'm sure you and many other people on this server do. But it undoubtably leaves a sour taste in anyone's mouth when you jump ship for greener pastures. The risk of that vs reward of "maybe some Silverwing loot" isn't worth it.

Really though what should be allowed is a conglomerate force of Class R guilss (under all guild tags), be allowed to contest VP dragons without turning all their guilss Class C in the process. It would be more competition, which I believe is your main goal. Plus it would be hilarious to see Class R stumble over themselves in VP, as your monks run around spamming Bladestoppers.

[Hitpoint]

It shouldn't be about the pixles. When we were first starting in VP, we planned for months to get our first few dragon kills. The pixles were not a concern. It was much more about the accomplishment of killing anything in VP. That's what everything else we did was building towards. I guess FE just had different values than class R currently does. To us, killing a Silverwing that only dropped spells was so much cooler than killing 10 Trakanons or VS's.

The first few VP dragons that FE killed dropped trash, and nobody even cared. My favorite VP kill by far, was a PD that dropped absolute shit. It was fun because of the circumstances surrounding it.

Anyway, I don't see why you would have to leave your guilds to compete in VP. It's not my place to give you ideas but I can see ways around this.

And I don't think we have any monks who use a bladestopper in VP, maybe one.

[Daldaen]

Derubael and Sirken were very clear that VP is Class C only and having just a few people on logs of a Class C mob push you into Class C, like Omni found out.

I wouldn't mind trying to get a kill with a conglomerate of guilds from Class R, if it didn't require we leave our guild or require our respective guilss get pushed to Class C upon a successful kill.

But since the later would happen you don't see anyone trying this. If Derubael/Sirken make an exception for a joint raiding force killing VP mobs you'd likely see one during a respawn.

[Man0warr]

It shouldn't be about the pixles. When we were first starting in VP, we planned for months to get our first few dragon kills. The pixles were not a concern. It was much more about the accomplishment of killing anything in VP. That's what everything else we did was building towards. I guess FE just had different values than class R currently does. To us, killing a Silverwing that only dropped spells was so much cooler than killing 10 Trakanons or VS's.



Grats on killing VP dragons for the first time 15 years late, but a lot of us already killed them in-era long ago - killing them doesn't hold any allure for me. The only thing that matters is the people you play with - leaving the guild of people who are your friends to create a Class C conglomerate is pretty scummy.

[doraf]

You momma is scummy

[Hitpoint]

Grats on killing VP dragons for the first time 15 years late, but a lot of us already killed them in-era long ago - killing them doesn't hold any allure for me. The only thing that matters is the people you play with - leaving the guild of people who are your friends to create a Class C conglomerate is pretty scummy.

I'm not saying that you should leave your guilds or friends. I think it's possible to have both if you do it right.

[Chest]

I think it's possible to have both if you do it right.

Not as long as I'm around, mother fucker.

[Troubled]

Despite the negativity surrounding FE and its actual purpose or agenda, I have had positive interactions with them and wanted to share one such encounter in hopes of turning this thread around for the better.

http://i.imgur.com/6PMGODL.jpg

[Raev]

Trouble, do you really not realize the blue chat is the awesome part there, not the purple

[Troubled]

Trouble, do you really not realize the blue chat is the awesome part there, not the purple

I didn't cut it out, just for you.

[Troubled]

Guy was super happy to be able to support his cause. You are a boon to your kind.

Keeps talking but it's kind of going in circles now so unless he really steps it up I'm hoping this will be enough to get people to want to play more with FE.

http://i.imgur.com/izlEVEZ.jpg

[Juevento]

I feel like 6 months down the road this has Clear vs Clear potential.

[Loke]

Grats on killing VP dragons for the first time 15 years late, but a lot of us already killed them in-era long ago - killing them doesn't hold any allure for me. The only thing that matters is the people you play with - leaving the guild of people who are your friends to create a Class C conglomerate is pretty scummy.

You misunderstand hitpoint I think. It wasn't about just killing something in VP, it was about coming together as a guild and accomplishing something countless people said we couldn't. Our first VP kill was like 23 FE vs 50+ TMO, back when training and all that shit was still kosher. It was Druushk, it was shit loot, but it was probably the most fun I've had on this server in 4+ years. Everything on this server has been done a million times since EQ originally cane out, and like you said, it is about doing that stuff with people you enjoy playing with. Since then I agree FE became more about pixels or server domination, but back in the early VP days, it was all about coming together as a guild to get kills despite TMO's complete stanglehold on the server.

Not everyone in raid guilds raids for pixels. For sure, some do, but some just like the challenge. I joined FE when I came back because they were new and just trying to start raid. When they merged with TMO I went back to IB because they had just come back and were the under dogs. Now that IB dominates the server I haven't raided for months. There are a lot of people with that same mentality in both guilds, but ofcourse it is way easier to just paint all of class C with a broad brush and claim they're pixel hungry no-lifers. Hell, id probably even consider Apping to a class R guild that decided to transition to C just for the challenge it'd present. Despite popular belief, some class C raiders would actually like to see guilds move up and be successful, because the current raid scene hasn't really changed since IB vs. DA.. Just different names over the years. Shit is stale and boring. Not as boring as rotations, but boring none the less.

[Magnar]

I'm not listening to you and Chest for two hours. Someone sum it up in a sentence.

Sirken basically said if TMO tries to use Forceful Entry as a way to get in on the class R raiding as well as the class C raiding that the hammer will come down from Rogean, as in TMO leadership being banned from the server and the guild names being blacklisted as names that cannot be used, forced disband...actual, serious punishment if they're caught pulling this shit.

[Hitpoint]

You misunderstand hitpoint I think. It wasn't about just killing something in VP, it was about coming together as a guild and accomplishing something countless people said we couldn't. Our first VP kill was like 23 FE vs 50+ TMO, back when training and all that shit was still kosher. It was Druushk, it was shit loot, but it was probably the most fun I've had on this server in 4+ years. Everything on this server has been done a million times since EQ originally cane out, and like you said, it is about doing that stuff with people you enjoy playing with. Since then I agree FE became more about pixels or server domination, but back in the early VP days, it was all about coming together as a guild to get kills despite TMO's complete stanglehold on the server.

Not everyone in raid guilds raids for pixels. For sure, some do, but some just like the challenge. I joined FE when I came back because they were new and just trying to start raid. When they merged with TMO I went back to IB because they had just come back and were the under dogs. Now that IB dominates the server I haven't raided for months. There are a lot of people with that same mentality in both guilds, but ofcourse it is way easier to just paint all of class C with a broad brush and claim they're pixel hungry no-lifers. Hell, id probably even consider Apping to a class R guild that decided to transition to C just for the challenge it'd present. Despite popular belief, some class C raiders would actually like to see guilds move up and be successful, because the current raid scene hasn't really changed since IB vs. DA.. Just different names over the years. Shit is stale and boring. Not as boring as rotations, but boring none the less.

So much truth here.

Killing something VP wan't so alluring because of the dragons themselves or the loot. It was about killing a mob that hadn't been killed by another guild (in contested VP) in literally years. It felt like we were told we weren't entitled to something, and then we took it anyway.

I don't feel like FE was ever about the pixles. I just never got that vibe from them. But I'm positive that there are people in class C who want to see class R guilds move up. Personally, I've been pretty disappointed that some class R guilds haven't even tried. I think a lot of experienced raiders enjoy the role of underdog, and would join a guild that had the balls to try it.

[radditsu]

Guy was super happy to be able to support his cause. You are a boon to your kind.

Keeps talking but it's kind of going in circles now so unless he really steps it up I'm hoping this will be enough to get people to want to play more with FE.

http://i.imgur.com/izlEVEZ.jpg

Sounds like Gaffin.

[Kushie]

I wish I had bought enough accounts 3 years ago to form alt raiding guilds.

[Xerxes]

You only need 2 chars to do it right bros o7

[Shinko]

You misunderstand hitpoint I think. It wasn't about just killing something in VP, it was about coming together as a guild and accomplishing something countless people said we couldn't. Our first VP kill was like 23 FE vs 50+ TMO, back when training and all that shit was still kosher. It was Druushk, it was shit loot, but it was probably the most fun I've had on this server in 4+ years. Everything on this server has been done a million times since EQ originally cane out, and like you said, it is about doing that stuff with people you enjoy playing with. Since then I agree FE became more about pixels or server domination, but back in the early VP days, it was all about coming together as a guild to get kills despite TMO's complete stanglehold on the server.

Not everyone in raid guilds raids for pixels. For sure, some do, but some just like the challenge. I joined FE when I came back because they were new and just trying to start raid. When they merged with TMO I went back to IB because they had just come back and were the under dogs. Now that IB dominates the server I haven't raided for months. There are a lot of people with that same mentality in both guilds, but ofcourse it is way easier to just paint all of class C with a broad brush and claim they're pixel hungry no-lifers. Hell, id probably even consider Apping to a class R guild that decided to transition to C just for the challenge it'd present. Despite popular belief, some class C raiders would actually like to see guilds move up and be successful, because the current raid scene hasn't really changed since IB vs. DA.. Just different names over the years. Shit is stale and boring. Not as boring as rotations, but boring none the less.

think this guy understands why i play

[Thulack]

Sirken basically said if TMO tries to use Forceful Entry as a way to get in on the class R raiding as well as the class C raiding that the hammer will come down from Rogean, as in TMO leadership being banned from the server and the guild names being blacklisted as names that cannot be used, forced disband...actual, serious punishment if they're caught pulling this shit.

Lol. Funniest thing i've read all week. Would never happen.

[Thulack]

think this guy understands why i play

Playing this game to get any kind of accomplishment on it is sorta stupid. It's a emulated server for a 15 year old game. Play it cause you want to have fun not cause you actually want to "accomplish" something in a 15 year old game. Thats just kinda sad.

[Servellious]

Playing this game to get any kind of accomplishment on it is sorta stupid. It's a emulated server for a 15 year old game. Play it cause you want to have fun not cause you actually want to "accomplish" something in a 15 year old game. Thats just kinda sad.

Playing any video game can be considered "sad"

[Ravager]

Playing this game to get any kind of accomplishment on it is sorta stupid. It's a emulated server for a 15 year old game. Play it cause you want to have fun not cause you actually want to "accomplish" something in a 15 year old game. Thats just kinda sad.

If we only play for fun, how will we impress the sexy ladies?

[Fael]

Sirken basically said if TMO tries to use Forceful Entry as a way to get in on the class R raiding as well as the class C raiding that the hammer will come down from Rogean, as in TMO leadership being banned from the server and the guild names being blacklisted as names that cannot be used, forced disband...actual, serious punishment if they're caught pulling this shit.

1. Prove it. What did Sirken say exactly?

2. Oh, and Shinko is not "TMO"

Dolic

[Clark]

Grats on killing VP dragons for the first time 15 years late, but a lot of us already killed them in-era long ago - killing them doesn't hold any allure for me. The only thing that matters is the people you play with - leaving the guild of people who are your friends to create a Class C conglomerate is pretty scummy.

Don't you realize how much of a idiot your post makes you sound kid.

[Clark]

http://i.imgur.com/XCDf0k4.png

[Magnar]

1. Prove it. What did Sirken say exactly?

2. Oh, and Shinko is not "TMO"

Dolic

It's on his livestream from this past Monday. Go watch it. I'm not going back through nearly 2 hours of conversation just to pinpoint something for someone too lazy to find it themselves.

Shinko isn't TMO 'anymore', supposedly. We'll see what happens in the coming weeks/months. My guess is when Velious comes out, FE is going to be focusing on Kunark targets for TMO while the main guild focuses on losing Velious to IB.

[Hitpoint]

It's on his livestream from this past Monday. Go watch it. I'm not going back through nearly 2 hours of conversation just to pinpoint something for someone too lazy to find it themselves.

Shinko isn't TMO 'anymore', supposedly. We'll see what happens in the coming weeks/months. My guess is when Velious comes out, FE is going to be focusing on Kunark targets for TMO while the main guild focuses on losing Velious to IB.

How stupid are you?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165159

[Shinko]

***NEWS FLASH***

ONCE YOU JOIN A GUILD YOU ARE THAT GUILD FOR LIFE

[Eponymous Anonymous]

Shinko isn't TMO 'anymore', supposedly. We'll see what happens in the coming weeks/months. My guess is when Velious comes out, FE is going to be focusing on Kunark targets for TMO while the main guild focuses on losing Velious to IB.

pretty spot on IMO

[Magnar]

***NEWS FLASH***

ONCE YOU JOIN A GUILD YOU ARE THAT GUILD FOR LIFE

So you're saying you left a class C guild to go back to class R raiding, right before Velious comes out, with a group of people who won't be Velious ready for months to come, and by that point won't be able to contend with the C guilds for those spawns? Riiight, that makes LOADS of sense!

[Sckrilla]

right before Velious comes out
wut??? lol.

[Shinko]

right before Velious comes out


i been waiting years for this to happen.. please come out mr velious

[Faron]

stop giving this dbag the attention he craves

[Swifty]

stop giving this dbag the attention he craves

who, Velious?