DUOing in dungeon areas

[Chalkstix]

It's bullshit to claim a camp in a crowded dungeon area with a duo group where you don't intend to invite other players.
There's plenty of areas in Everquest where you can go without the nuisance of grouping with strangers, but dungeon areas are not one of them.

Everquest is an MMO, and you have to keep in mind that other players would like to get experience as well.

If you wanted your experience to yourself, you could go play Skyrim or some other single player game.

[Clasick]

Who are you to dictate how many people can be in a group. If they are killing the mobs at their camp what concern of it is yours. Let me guess your some non dps hybrid that would add nothing to the duo

[Bellringer]

Could be worse man. You could be in lguk, call camp check, bring a group all the way down to frenzy to see that it is camped by some 60 who only checks screen on timer repops...

[Chalkstix]

I'm a druid and I always invite people to my groups. I think it's bullshit to take a group spot in a crowded dungeon as a duo because then 4 people who could have gotten xp will have to spend their time waiting for you to finish up.
If you wanna duo, why not go somewhere that isn't already crowded with people waiting to find a group?

[indiscriminate_hater]

"people don't play this game the exact same way i'd like to play it. somebody validate my self-centered opinion" - OP

i don't know what you're looking for, but you're not going to find any sympathy here. maybe play a class that's not fucking useless in a dungeon setting?

[Doors]

Welcome to blue.

[baalzy]

Could be worse man. You could be in lguk, call camp check, bring a group all the way down to frenzy to see that it is camped by some 60 who only checks screen on timer repops...

If you're just after Xp this isn't that big of a deal. It's 3 mobs. People should just not expect to be able to get any highly valuable loot while xp'ing until they're xping in KC/Seb.

Unfortunate reality of top heavy server.

[Chalkstix]

You say that it's okay to claim a camp where a full group could have gotten exp, in an already crowded area, with a duo and call me self-centered?
Do you not know the meaning of the word or are you just one of these 300k pp twinks who just doesn't care about other players?

[Chalkstix]

And the camping of Frenzy is one thing. You're camping one mob because you want his drop, because it's a nice haste item for your alt. I get that. Get your loot, give the camp to the next person.

[iruinedyourday]

what are you talking about tho, like where? If its like the pond in MM and youre like, no nobody can join us.. thats kinda lamers yea...

but if its like someone camping the exe/sage area duo for xp and fun, let the two boyfriends cybor.

[Chalkstix]

what are you talking about tho, like where? If its like the pond in MM and youre like, no nobody can join us.. thats kinda lamers yea...

but if its like someone camping the exe/sage area duo for xp and fun, let the two boyfriends cybor.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people duoing an xp camp in Mistmoore, like Pond or Graveyard, or an xp camp in CoM like Stables or Temple and refusing to let other people into the group because they are duoing their twinks.

[iruinedyourday]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people duoing an xp camp in Mistmoore, like Pond or Graveyard, or an xp camp in CoM like Stables or Temple and refusing to let other people into the group because they are duoing their twinks.

I think graveyard is ok, its pretty condensed in its own little area, so that one u gotta chalk up to there are lots of people here reliving eq on thier own terms :)

but yea once u get to com you start, well.. to just want to get that exp and doing a duo is fun for them. It can be frustrating when you have to wait for a group opening when someone is soloing an area often taken by a full 6 man group I know.

Ive duoed at the temple, soloed it even but I let people join me, even though I hope they will turn me down.. and after about 20 mins Id 50% of the time, log off and come back later.. because.. well if you saw the difference in xp gain when you are solo duo vs in a 4+ group.. and could solo duo? you would start to just realise 6 man grouping is kind of just not really worth it, if you don't have to.

I mean, yea the grind and playing EQ as a group is what its all about right? well kind of.. most of these people that you are talking about have ground 2 3 or maybe 4 toons on p99 and well, after you've done it once or twice, it looses its luster and you just want to get to that same level as all your friends who are lvl 60 so you can group with them again...

I mean, you're just gona have to expect that the server is a mixed bag of nuts, and sometimes the bowl you seek is in drooga, even though that's a long run from Mistmoore. :(

Rest assured those people duoing right now? will roll a rogue at some point and be stuck waiting on a spot in a group, while someone else (maybe even you!) is taking the temple to solo for an hour before dinner with their family.

bluetopia. it is real.

[Secrets]

EXP penalties are very much classic and very much alienating of other players.

If you want a solo/group class that gets accepted no matter their gear or exp penalty, play a halfling cleric, human necromancer, or barbarian shaman. Pretty simple to discern especially as classic mechanics won't get changed here.

This is Project 1999, not Project 2004.

[Tasslehofp99]

You're a druid; who gives a shit what other people do when you can solo to 60 faster than like 90% of the people in groups. Why would you WANT to group? Do you want to take longer to hit lvl 60? lol

[Clark]

"people don't play this game the exact same way i'd like to play it. somebody validate my self-centered opinion" - OP

i don't know what you're looking for, but you're not going to find any sympathy here. maybe play a class that's not fucking useless in a dungeon setting?

:cool:

[BurgyK]

Shut up and port me.

[Dualform]

It's an ideal and an honest concern, it's an honor system and more people should consider it honorable imo. To those saying "reroll or go solo to 60" you're missing the point, lol

[Kastro]

Go play on RED.. they will want you in the group for the exp... and if they still dont... pk them when they have a few extra mobs aND claim the spot for your group..

[Raev]

Go play on RED.. they will want you in the group for the exp... and if they still dont... pk them when they have a few extra mobs aND claim the spot for your group..

Come to red! Be a sociopath! Don't you guys ever get tired of this mantra?

Also OP if you are going to bitch, at least bitch about people who are soloing. It's gonna get a lot worse.

[justin2090]

I think most of the camps are designed for 2-3 man groups. For example com temple duo has just enough mobs for shm/mnk duo. Add a 3rd class and there will be a wait before the temple repops.

[Secrets]

It's an ideal and an honest concern, it's an honor system and more people should consider it honorable imo. To those saying "reroll or go solo to 60" you're missing the point, lol

The honor system doesn't work irl, what makes you think it will work here?

An artist honestly uses their brain more than most programmers do.

They get paid fucking small amounts of salaries or by a small amount per hour PLUS cannot draw in the art style they want to, they have to conform to a business' style of art.

To make matters even more unfair, programmers in comparison have to do things according to one style - the most efficient way possible for the company and thus ultimately themselves.

So how does this relate to EQ? You pick a class, just like a profession in real life because 'it's something you want to play/do', and you end up realizing that your class is horrible and can't reroll without a ton of work.

No amount of unionizing and complaining on public forums will ever change that people are inheritly greedy, and take the path of least resistance, even if it means fucking over other people in the process.

Is that a problem? When you do it, no. When someone else does it to you, yes.
See the problem with that? It works both ways and you commonly side with whatever favors you, instead of giving up a part of your time to help others.

And this isn't just an EQ problem, it's a problem with humanity - we might be the smartest animals on the planet but I'll be damned if we can someday make everything fair for everyone.

[indiscriminate_hater]

The honor system doesn't work irl, what makes you think it will work here?

An artist honestly uses their brain more than most programmers do.

They get paid fucking small amounts of salaries or by a small amount per hour PLUS cannot draw in the art style they want to, they have to conform to a business' style of art.

To make matters even more unfair, programmers in comparison have to do things according to one style - the most efficient way possible for the company and thus ultimately themselves.

So how does this relate to EQ? You pick a class, just like a profession in real life because 'it's something you want to play/do', and you end up realizing that your class is horrible and can't reroll without a ton of work.

No amount of unionizing and complaining on public forums will ever change that people are inheritly greedy, and take the path of least resistance, even if it means fucking over other people in the process.

Is that a problem? When you do it, no. When someone else does it to you, yes.
See the problem with that? It works both ways and you commonly side with whatever favors you, instead of giving up a part of your time to help others.

And this isn't just an EQ problem, it's a problem with humanity - we might be the smartest animals on the planet but I'll be damned if we can someday make everything fair for everyone.

tldr: grow a pair, OP

[iruinedyourday]

I think most of the camps are designed for 2-3 man groups. For example com temple duo has just enough mobs for shm/mnk duo. Add a 3rd class and there will be a wait before the temple repops.

yea but to be fair, thats claasssssic

[Widan]

Does no one remember the days of 4 full HHK basement groups? One in each room. Now that shit is classic.

[Jimjam]

Yea, but those people had fine steel weapons, maybe a polished granite tomahawk / dragoon dirk at best. Aggro was all over the place and dps was poor, draining healer mana.

4 mobs in six mins was all those groups could handle!

[mrmop520]

Duoing can often be funner than 6man grouping ;) I remember leveling my cleric and full groups literally put me to sleep.. many times haha. Now an enc / cleric duo.. that's fun.

[uygi]

The honor system doesn't work irl, what makes you think it will work here?

An artist honestly uses their brain more than most programmers do.

They get paid fucking small amounts of salaries or by a small amount per hour PLUS cannot draw in the art style they want to, they have to conform to a business' style of art.

To make matters even more unfair, programmers in comparison have to do things according to one style - the most efficient way possible for the company and thus ultimately themselves.

So how does this relate to EQ? You pick a class, just like a profession in real life because 'it's something you want to play/do', and you end up realizing that your class is horrible and can't reroll without a ton of work.

No amount of unionizing and complaining on public forums will ever change that people are inheritly greedy, and take the path of least resistance, even if it means fucking over other people in the process.

Is that a problem? When you do it, no. When someone else does it to you, yes.
See the problem with that? It works both ways and you commonly side with whatever favors you, instead of giving up a part of your time to help others.

And this isn't just an EQ problem, it's a problem with humanity - we might be the smartest animals on the planet but I'll be damned if we can someday make everything fair for everyone.

Fuuuck. +1

[iruinedyourday]

The honor system doesn't work irl, what makes you think it will work here?

This isn't international politics, it's a small village of 1k people. The honor system does work in small villages you pedcimist :p

[Phased]

Yea, but those people had fine steel weapons, maybe a polished granite tomahawk / dragoon dirk at best. Aggro was all over the place and dps was poor, draining healer mana.

4 mobs in six mins was all those groups could handle!

It's basically this.

At this point on the server everyone is so twinked out with gear, specifically melees that there just aren't enough mobs for even 3-4 people, let alone a full group. Mob HP wasn't designed for 36% haste items and epics on level 1 rogues/monks.

Back in the day groups were always full because you needed all hands on deck for every single mob.

[Nirgon]

Ya well the epic mob turn in would eat the rogue epic items if you weren't 50 during the era we're in

So

Ya they weren't tuned for that

[Rivthis]

[QUOTE=Secrets;1660873 (snip)
And this isn't just an EQ problem, it's a problem with humanity - we might be the smartest animals on the planet but I'll be damned if we can someday make everything fair for everyone.[/QUOTE]

Damn commie :D

[iruinedyourday]

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I have an dwarven dream. #bluetopia

[teija]

It's bullshit to claim a camp in a crowded dungeon area with a duo group where you don't intend to invite other players.
There's plenty of areas in Everquest where you can go without the nuisance of grouping with strangers, but dungeon areas are not one of them.

Everquest is an MMO, and you have to keep in mind that other players would like to get experience as well.

If you wanted your experience to yourself, you could go play Skyrim or some other single player game.

How dare u try and dictate the way other people want to play this game. If a duo or a trio of friends are at a camp and holding it down themselves while trying to get some kind of challenge other then afk sitting there on my cleric while 5 other people faceroll the mobs in camp leaving me with noone to heal. You are a fucking druid get over it and go solo untill u find a group.

[Heebo]

I'm a druid...

:p