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Nineran
09-06-2010, 11:21 PM
What the fuck is it going to take for Pet carrying classes to understand that. On this server.....................

PETS BREAK BARD MEZ.

Let me say it one more time.

PETS BREAK BARD MEZ.

I don't know about enchanter mez, I don't play one.

I am repeatedly told by these dumbass mages and necros. Oh don't worry about it, my pet won't break a mez.

And then I have this red mob, that has massive threat on me. Not resisting my mezes, and the mezes breaking instantaneously. AFTER, the pet does an attack animation, the mob does a hit received animation, and the combat logs scrolls

"Jobantik slashes a goblin raider for 14 damage."

GET YOUR GOD DAMN PET OFF THE MOB I AM MEZZING CAUSE THE HEALER IS OOM and I AM AT 12% health.

IF YOUR FUCKING PET ATTACKS IT, I LOSE HALF A YELLOW OF EXPERIENCE.

Fuck. I have been stuck in level 30 for ages cause of this. I pull, I tank, I mez, I lull, I heal. The least you can do, is have the fucken courtesy to stay the fuck out of my way and not get me killed. I would rather have you sit there like a bump on a log like you do most of the time while I am doing the tanking, the pulling and the healing. Rather than all of a sudden perk up and send your pet on a wild mission, to break every mez I cast.

Can we get a server wide message at peak hours or something to explain this to people. Cause people don't seem to get in original classic EQ pets could break mez.

I got into my first hell level, level 30 and it was going well, I thought hey these hell levels aren't so bad. But I have repeatedly run into these fucken retards who leave me to die, letting their pets run about rampant totally uncontrolled. 7 deaths later, one body I was able to get rezzed at 50%. I can't get through the damn level, not cause the experience sucks. Cause I keep running into retards.

So please, please spread the word. Pets can, and do break mez. AND NEVER, EVER let your pet be the one to break it. Let the mezzer, or the tank do the mez breaking. Cause I promise you, your pet will not pull threat off me after I have mezzed. NO your pets taunt will not work you dumbass, I promise you it will fail.

/rantoff

I hope Kunark doesn't come till 2012 cause at the rate I am going thats the amount of time I'll need.

Nineran Neverlevel signing off.

Autotune
09-06-2010, 11:24 PM
Dude, don't worry. Pets don't break mez.

Ronas
09-06-2010, 11:27 PM
What they saying is kind of correct that they dont break mez, as in if the mob is mezzed you cannot actually send the pet on it, has a message that doesnt allow pet to attack. BUT, if the pet is on the mob and it is getting mez then yah it is breaking mez.

Nineran
09-06-2010, 11:32 PM
No what they say is ENTIRELY incorrect. A pet has the ability to break mez. It can hit a mob after its been mezzed, thereby removing the mez.

That means it DOES have the ability break mez.

Saying that they can't is ENTIRELY FALSE. Just because you can't send them on it, while they are already mezzed, does not mean they CANNOT break mez.

When you are a bard, triple mezzing. If you get ONE resist, it fucks your entire rotation and you are going to take a hit. DONT SEND YOUR PET ON IT IN THAT TWO SECONDS IT TAKES TO REMEZ THE TARGET.

RKromwell
09-06-2010, 11:36 PM
What they saying is kind of correct that they dont break mez, as in if the mob is mezzed you cannot actually send the pet on it, has a message that doesnt allow pet to attack. BUT, if the pet is on the mob and it is getting mez then yah it is breaking mez.


Charmed and Mezzed are not the same thing.

Tseng
09-06-2010, 11:41 PM
what happens is once a target hits them, their pet gets on the target and they don't even notice and it's a bitch to get it off

Bashee_Feind
09-06-2010, 11:47 PM
No what they say is ENTIRELY incorrect. A pet has the ability to break mez. It can hit a mob after its been mezzed, thereby removing the mez.

That means it DOES have the ability break mez.

Saying that they can't is ENTIRELY FALSE. Just because you can't send them on it, while they are already mezzed, does not mean they CANNOT break mez.

When you are a bard, triple mezzing. If you get ONE resist, it fucks your entire rotation and you are going to take a hit. DONT SEND YOUR PET ON IT IN THAT TWO SECONDS IT TAKES TO REMEZ THE TARGET.

Don't mez a target that has a pet on it before bitching out the pet class. bitch the pet class, get pet backed, then mez.

Nineran
09-06-2010, 11:52 PM
Target is mezzed. Mez breaks. Pet is sent. Mez reapplied. Pet then repeatedly breaks the mez as it is repeatedly reapplied as the bard desperately tries to stay alive.

I will immediately bitch out the Pet class for sending the pet, when the TANK has not attacked the mob yet.

If there is a pet on it and the pet has threat, FINE! No need to mez it. Can mez it if the pet dies. But thats not a scenario I am worried about.

Nineran
09-06-2010, 11:54 PM
Everyone is coming up with these half assed rationalizations that don't deal with the actually scenario. There is only one fix, and its simple.

DON'T SEND YOUR PET, UNTIL THE TANK BREAKS MEZ.

Its as simple as that. If mez falls off, the tank has NOT broken mez, so don't send your pet. DO NOT send your pet until mez is DELIBERATELY BROKEN by the tank. Be it the bard, or whatever other tank you are using.

Autotune
09-07-2010, 12:12 AM
You're retarded bro. Pets Don't Break Mez.

You must be high.

Kutter
09-07-2010, 12:20 AM
Pets not breaking mez did not come out until sometime after Luclin was released.

Working as intended.

Enjoy.

Haynar

:eek:

Tseng
09-07-2010, 12:20 AM
Everyone is coming up with these half assed rationalizations that don't deal with the actually scenario. There is only one fix, and its simple.

DON'T SEND YOUR PET, UNTIL THE TANK BREAKS MEZ.

Its as simple as that. If mez falls off, the tank has NOT broken mez, so don't send your pet. DO NOT send your pet until mez is DELIBERATELY BROKEN by the tank. Be it the bard, or whatever other tank you are using.

No shit.

In other news, grass is green and the sky is blue

Eternal-Elf
09-07-2010, 12:20 AM
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eqdruid76
09-07-2010, 04:30 AM
OP, don't be discouraged by these dickless monkeysticks. Your post is the first legitimate rant we've seen here in weeks. I salute you!!!

yaaaflow
09-07-2010, 05:06 AM
Hey man its pretty tough being a mage first theres the /pet attack and then you gotta follow that up with nuking now and then and damage shields and oh man it's a busy life. Can't really expect a mage to occasionally do a /pet back now and then, can ya?

yaaaflow
09-07-2010, 05:12 AM
like for real, us mages are busy watchin porn on our 2nd monitor or surfing facebook or what not, we're only wasting time grouping so we can go on cruise control. Can't you just mez a little better - maybe you could get to tank to switch targets and then mez the stuff my pet isn't fighting instead.

food for thought anyway

h0tr0d (shaere)
09-07-2010, 05:22 AM
yeah nice to see an in game rant, not involving politics!:)

Lazortag
09-07-2010, 09:50 AM
I always feel bad criticizing my other group members, especially now that my main's level 50, because everyone thinks they're pro at this level. But the fact is, some people will just never learn how to assist, call their pet off, use messages that say "x is mezzed" or "y is charmed" or "assist me on z". Some people will also never read these messages. It amazes me that I go through the effort of making macros like "/stopsong /cast 8 /g ~mezzing %t !!~~" and people will still attack the mezzed mob, when it has a different name than the not-mezzed mob. Now, don't get me wrong - I think that Bards should work around their group just as much as groups should work around the Bard. If the Bard makes an extremely poor CC decision, it's okay to attack the mezzed mob, and I won't care and I will apologize if I'm the idiot Bard in that scenario. It happens more than I'd prefer that the automated messages cause more confusion than they take away, but what can you do.

Back on the topic: apparently /pet back wipes the pet's aggro list, but a mage I was grouped with in Royals once said otherwise. Was he just an idiot?

Seaweedpimp
09-07-2010, 10:43 AM
I always feel bad criticizing my other group members, especially now that my main's level 50, because everyone thinks they're pro at this level. But the fact is, some people will just never learn how to assist, call their pet off, use messages that say "x is mezzed" or "y is charmed" or "assist me on z". Some people will also never read these messages. It amazes me that I go through the effort of making macros like "/stopsong /cast 8 /g ~mezzing %t !!~~" and people will still attack the mezzed mob, when it has a different name than the not-mezzed mob. Now, don't get me wrong - I think that Bards should work around their group just as much as groups should work around the Bard. If the Bard makes an extremely poor CC decision, it's okay to attack the mezzed mob, and I won't care and I will apologize if I'm the idiot Bard in that scenario. It happens more than I'd prefer that the automated messages cause more confusion than they take away, but what can you do.

Back on the topic: apparently /pet back wipes the pet's aggro list, but a mage I was grouped with in Royals once said otherwise. Was he just an idiot?


^^ completely.

Koota
09-07-2010, 10:59 AM
Back on the topic: apparently /pet back wipes the pet's aggro list, but a mage I was grouped with in Royals once said otherwise. Was he just an idiot?


He was just an idiot. /pet back off wipes the pet's aggro list.

Nineran
09-07-2010, 02:16 PM
LOL at yaaaaflow. Classic response. Loved it.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Haynar View Post
Pets not breaking mez did not come out until sometime after Luclin was released.

Working as intended.

Enjoy.

Haynar


No one ever said it wasn't working as intended....

Just saying people don't know how to handle the way it does work.

William_Munny15
09-08-2010, 05:34 PM
I break mezzes with my druid root all day, take that Son!

Nineran
09-16-2010, 12:33 AM
OK, so I have to bring this up again.

YET AGAIN. Another retarded warlock. After his pet REPEATEDLY broke my mez at least 7 times. After I was dead he was like. Dude, thats impossible, pets don't break mez. And this is after the patch.


TO EVERY PET OWNER OUT THERE. YOUR PETS CAN BREAK MEZ NO MATTER WHAT. IF YOU ARE NOT ACTIVELY SPAMMING YOUR PET BACK OFF BUTTON HE WILL GET YOUR MEZZER KILLED CAUSE HIS DPS AND HIS TAUNT SUCKS BALLS.

Get your pet off my mez target. Or go delete your toon please, thanks.

Harrison
09-16-2010, 01:30 AM
What is a warlock? Is it a retarded enchanter's worst nightmare?

Lazortag
09-16-2010, 09:56 AM
Honestly, a pet class who breaks mez is about the equivalent of a Bard who one-twists. It just shows that you aren't paying attention to what's going on or that you have shit knowledge of how to play your class. The sad thing is it's somewhat more likely to find pet classes like this because they solo more often, so they have less experience grouping and end up killing people because of it.

I tried telling someone this the other day, and of course he vehemently denied that there was a way to get his pet off of an attacker that I planned on mezzing. Correcting him was considered "rude" for some reason. I guess most players think that because they played classic eq that they're automatically pro and that no one has the license to give them advice on anything.