Today on this American Life: Jews being Jews

[radditsu]

http://m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/534/a-not-so-simple-majority



Problems always start when cultures are not allowed to mingle. Humanity is better when children are allowed to see and exist in other cultures.


I like Jews but the xenophobia has become a world issue.

[Rust1d?]

Religion is the #1 killer in the world. Has been since the dawn of time. To be honest, I have trouble distinguishing a Jew from a Muslim, especially the dark ones.

[katrik]

Not a fan of Jews. Not a fan of Muslims and Christians either.

[Azure]

I got an ad banner that said meet Muslim singles on this web site... wtf...

[Swish]

I got an ad banner that said meet Muslim singles on this web site... wtf...

Abualfreeporti's Islamic guild on red has been talked about - maybe its that, or the RNF news talking about muslims. Apparently that means we're all muslims and interested in meeting muslim singles?

God bless the internet.

[BurgyK]

I wana see some profile pics off that site! Eyes and ankles!! Hhnnnnggghh

[Kraftwerk]

Haha I was listening to this on my morning drive. It's pretty nutty.

[Arclyte]

Mistaking jews for a religious group is your first problem

They see themselves as a race

[Glenzig]

Mistaking jews for a religious group is your first problem

They see themselves as a race

[Azure]

Mistaking jews for a religious group is your first problem

They see themselves as a race

So, they are racist?

[Mac Drettj]

op is a faggot

now you can officially remain in this subforum

[Estolcles]

So, they are racist?

Yep.

[leewong]

Mistaking jews for a religious group is your first problem

They see themselves as a race

But they are God's chosen people! The rest of us are simply inferior so it isnt racist. Kinda reminds me of a political group that formed in the 1930s that nearly wiped em out.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

But they are God's chosen people! The rest of us are simply inferior so it isnt racist. Kinda reminds me of a political group that formed in the 1930s that nearly wiped em out.

I'd rather be 'inferior' than 'dirty'. Fucking Jehovah's Witnesses.

[radditsu]

Its all endemic of exclusivity. These people refused to become part of our American experiment and perpetuated the stereotypes of their "race". Amish, illegal aliens and some pockets of Chinese immigrants do the same. Segregation, forced or otherwise, goes against what makes America. ..America. plus hiring dirty shitbird lawyers is a problem

[radditsu]

Cant force them or you become no better than segregationists..Also get called anti semites.

[radditsu]

You act like the "chris rock ******" version of Jews does not set your race forward.

[Azure]

radditsu, u are probably white, and jewish

[Heebee]

For the majority of Jews, the Hasidic and Ultra-Orthodox Jews are considered to be "Meshuga" (crazy/insane/lunatics). So yeah - Crazies being crazy, not really a surprise there.

[Daldolma]

Its all endemic of exclusivity. These people refused to become part of our American experiment and perpetuated the stereotypes of their "race". Amish, illegal aliens and some pockets of Chinese immigrants do the same. Segregation, forced or otherwise, goes against what makes America. ..America. plus hiring dirty shitbird lawyers is a problem

that is a part of the american experiment, moran. ever been to a chinatown or little italy? what makes america unique is that minority populations aren't forced to assimilate or gtfo. you want to live in a cloistered community of like-minded or culturally/ethnically similar people? knock yourself out, just don't infringe on anyone's rights. it's easy to force everyone to blend together and fit into a few popular categories. that's every country ever. it's a lot more difficult to create a national ethos that respects the infinitely-varied affinities, cultures, religions, etc and creates an environment where any of these groups can feel comfortable to assimilate or not assimilate as they desire

the only people perpetuating stereotypes are bigots who stereotype. the actions of a couple thousand "asians" in an american chinatown aren't applicable to the billion "asians" worldwide, etc. the fact that some black dude steals your stereo isn't perpetuating a stereotype. you're perpetuating the stereotype by viewing him as a black dude instead of a guy who stole your stereo

[Skittlez]

that is a part of the american experiment, moran. ever been to a chinatown or little italy? what makes america unique is that minority populations aren't forced to assimilate or gtfo. you want to live in a cloistered community of like-minded or culturally/ethnically similar people? knock yourself out, just don't infringe on anyone's rights. it's easy to force everyone to blend together and fit into a few popular categories. that's every country ever. it's a lot more difficult to create a national ethos that respects the infinitely-varied affinities, cultures, religions, etc and creates an environment where any of these groups can feel comfortable to assimilate or not assimilate as they desire

the only people perpetuating stereotypes are bigots who stereotype. the actions of a couple thousand "asians" in an american chinatown aren't applicable to the billion "asians" worldwide, etc. the fact that some black dude steals your stereo isn't perpetuating a stereotype. you're perpetuating the stereotype by viewing him as a black dude instead of a guy who stole your stereo

[Ket]

that is a part of the american experiment, moran. ever been to a chinatown or little italy? what makes america unique is that minority populations aren't forced to assimilate or gtfo. you want to live in a cloistered community of like-minded or culturally/ethnically similar people? knock yourself out, just don't infringe on anyone's rights. it's easy to force everyone to blend together and fit into a few popular categories. that's every country ever. it's a lot more difficult to create a national ethos that respects the infinitely-varied affinities, cultures, religions, etc and creates an environment where any of these groups can feel comfortable to assimilate or not assimilate as they desire

the only people perpetuating stereotypes are bigots who stereotype. the actions of a couple thousand "asians" in an american chinatown aren't applicable to the billion "asians" worldwide, etc. the fact that some black dude steals your stereo isn't perpetuating a stereotype. you're perpetuating the stereotype by viewing him as a black dude instead of a guy who stole your stereo

Dude. Fuckin' Boom.

[radditsu]

Look dude. In regards to a human standpoint. People of dispirate racial, cultural and ethnic backgrounds coming together have only given the world good things. Chinesebimmigrants all over the world have proven this. Look at central america. Those asian communities came together over the course of the last few centuries to produce something unique and wonderful. Using religion or "race" or any other division is what causes the issues with stereotypes and misunderstanding. In thiscase, this dispirate cloystered group is causing a determental effect on the society as a whole. Its the same as having people not pay taxes when they dont believe in what the money goes for. We, as Americans, should respect your traditions and culture and should learn the best out of those things. And you, as americans should learn the same. The orthodox jewish communuty has been walling itself off from any other community since the last time they were genocided. It prevents any real progress in that community. How much freedom of choice do you think this community may have? Never did I say it should be done against the will of anyone. So continue your jingoistic bullshit if you want. But fuck you cunt.

[radditsu]

I hate my phone.

[Champion_Standing]

Ever been to Dearborn?

[radditsu]

I swear I had that formatted

[Servellious]

Good thing we saved those dudes and have them land

[Estolcles]

Anyone want to have some fun?

Talk to an American Jewish person about Israel vs. Palestine, and take the side of Palestine. See how quick you get labeled an anti-semite.

[runlvlzero]

Anyone want to have some fun?

Talk to an American Jewish person about Israel vs. Palestine, and take the side of Palestine. See how quick you get labeled an anti-semite.

I was listening to NPR on the public broadcast channel.

Appearently the Jews are big mad faggots for creating isreal and their scripture sounds like a madman was babbling incorrehently about people of god being fucking douchebags, then getting moved around because no one wanted them anymore.

Also NPR said ISIS are a bunch of mad faggots, but their not as bad mad faggots as the rest of the actually recognized governments in the regions yet and that the reason people put up with ISIS is cause their really annoyed at the major mad faggots they've been dealing with for a centaury already.

Also, why the fuck fundamentalist islamic/muslim jihadists going to follow or be part of an organization named after a classical egyptian goddess?

That would be like the Knights Templar following druidic or pagan dieties. lol... Or Orthadox Jews screaming Allahu Akhbar before sinking civilian ships in foreign harbors to create wars.

PS aint got no prob with jewish theologians or scholars. But Zion as a nation is seriously fuckt and needs to re-evaluate their place in the world.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Anyone want to have some fun?

Talk to an American Jewish person about Israel vs. Palestine, and try to be neutral on the situation. See how quick you get labeled an anti-semite.

Fixed. You don't even need to support their enemy. To Jews, you are with them or against them. I would know, my g/f's family is Jewish.

[Estolcles]

Fixed. You don't even need to support their enemy. To Jews, you are with them or against them. I would know, my g/f's family is Jewish.

Sadly, the fix is correct.

[loramin]

Ok, let's not make gross generalizations on ethnic or religious groups. Case in point, I'm Jewish and 100% against zionism, the state of Israel, and everything they do to the Palestinian people.

Quick lesson time: there are actually four branches of Jeudaism. The crazy people in the NPR story, Hassids, are the most conservative, followed by the orthodox, conservatives, and finally reformed Jews (you'd think the conservatives would be the most conservative, but they're actually more liberal *boggle*). The more conservative branch the Jew you're talking to is from, the more likely their answers will be bat shit insane unquestioning support for Israel (or just bat shit insane, period).

So if you want a sane, rational conversation, talk to a reformed Jew. Or you might get lucky and find sane conservative or even orthodox Jews; it can happen. Hassids are like the Amish though, they're a lost cause.

[Estolcles]

Ok, let's not make gross generalizations on ethnic or religious groups. Case in point, I'm Jewish and 100% against zionism, the state of Israel, and everything they do to the Palestinian people.

Quick lesson time: there are actually four branches of Jeudaism. The crazy people in the NPR story, Hassids, are the most conservative, followed by the orthodox, conservatives, and finally reformed Jews (you'd think the conservatives would be the most conservative, but they're actually more liberal *boggle*). The more conservative branch the Jew you're talking to is from, the more likely their answers will be bat shit insane unquestioning support for Israel (or just bat shit insane, period).

So if you want a sane, rational conversation, talk to a reformed Jew. Or you might get lucky and find sane conservative or even orthodox Jews; it can happen. Hassids are like the Amish though, they're a lost cause.

Anti-Zion Jews I find interesting. One day I'll find one, and have a long talk with them about everything.

[Daldolma]

the only people perpetuating stereotypes are bigots who stereotype. the actions of a couple thousand "asians" in an american chinatown aren't applicable to the billion "asians" worldwide, etc. the fact that some black dude steals your stereo isn't perpetuating a stereotype. you're perpetuating the stereotype by viewing him as a black dude instead of a guy who stole your stereo

Fixed. You don't even need to support their enemy. To Jews, you are with them or against them. I would know, my g/f's family is Jewish.

katabob confirmed bigot

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

katabob confirmed bigot

Kaldolma confirmed never had a face to face discussion with a Jewish person about the geo-political situation in the middle east.

[Heebee]

Ok, let's not make gross generalizations on ethnic or religious groups. Case in point, I'm Jewish and 100% against zionism, the state of Israel, and everything they do to the Palestinian people.

Quick lesson time: there are actually four branches of Jeudaism. The crazy people in the NPR story, Hassids, are the most conservative, followed by the orthodox, conservatives, and finally reformed Jews (you'd think the conservatives would be the most conservative, but they're actually more liberal *boggle*). The more conservative branch the Jew you're talking to is from, the more likely their answers will be bat shit insane unquestioning support for Israel (or just bat shit insane, period).

So if you want a sane, rational conversation, talk to a reformed Jew. Or you might get lucky and find sane conservative or even orthodox Jews; it can happen. Hassids are like the Amish though, they're a lost cause.

This is spot on.

[iruinedyourday]

Kaldolma confirmed never had a face to face discussion with a Jewish person about the geo-political situation in the middle east.

kaga confirmed humorless.

[mtb tripper]

http://m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/534/a-not-so-simple-majority



Problems always start when cultures are not allowed to mingle. Humanity is better when children are allowed to see and exist in other cultures.


I like Jews but the xenophobia has become a world issue.

bigotry

[radditsu]

bigotry

K. I prefer human whatevs

[Whirled]

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/can-you-imagine-referring-to-a-person-by-their-genitals-what-a-dick.jpg

[Eliseus]

Religion is the #1 killer in the world. Has been since the dawn of time. To be honest, I have trouble distinguishing a Jew from a Muslim, especially the dark ones.

I don't know if to QFT or not. I mean technically it is true, but even your views are religious, so by definition, there in reality is no escape from "religion" in the first place, or no way for it to not exist.