View Full Version : Classic Everquest Community? I think not!
Psionide
09-03-2010, 09:14 PM
Damn man, I tell ya this community just isn't the same people I remember having an awesome time with back in the dayyy. It's just all about me, me, me or constant accusations of some sort. Man, guy goes afk for 4 minutes and its all like OHHHHH OHHHHH NOOO MY GODDDDDD HE'S LEACHINGGGG WTFFF.
Or yo can i get a sow?
yeah you could but i won't
Like where's the love? Nahhh man, we've been LFM for the past 3 hours and you still won't invite that guy cuz his class?
again I dunno I remmber the old community bein dope as hell nice and more on the let me help you side then the fuck you side.
Infectious
09-03-2010, 09:39 PM
I think it is the opposite here... People back then were ass holes and acted like since they were 45+ they were gods. Here people buff up people all day for free, give out gear and so on. The only the gay shit is with the class's but once u get 20+ people seem to not care as much bout that shit.
Thulghor
09-03-2010, 10:06 PM
Seems like the same old stuff to me. Yeah, people are a bit more aware this time around, but still, you get lots of good folks, and you get a few bad folks. Don't let the asshats tarnish your views of this place. It's actually filled with cool folks.
Maurk
09-03-2010, 10:16 PM
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Psionide
09-03-2010, 10:24 PM
^^^^^^^
THATS GOOD STUFF
azxten
09-03-2010, 10:34 PM
EQ for me was always the good and the bad which made it worth playing. I don't like WoW cause you put together your little group (or maybe only guild members) and you go pay 5 silver or whatever to fly to a dungeon and head into your instance. No one trained you, KSd, etc but you also never saved another person from dying or had them do the same for you and so on.
This is a pretty good recreation of that experience to me. One second someone is buffing up my alt and the next a high level runs right past me fighting a mob with 30 mobs on them who come back after they zone and rape me. One second I'm offering free ports and buffs and the next I'm arguing with someone in tells over a camp (They stole it I swear!).
Toony
09-03-2010, 10:44 PM
I think it is the opposite here... People back then were ass holes and acted like since they were 45+ they were gods.
Maybe they were just assholes to you, people on my server were pretty cool.
Nedala
09-04-2010, 12:19 AM
People on this server are pretty cool too mostly. Its shit is just in the forums, wasnt different on live or there was no board where a big part of the community was active. Ingame i meet mostly nice people :)
Qaedain
09-04-2010, 12:37 AM
EQFlames, FoH and server boards are particularly salient examples of the theory that forums are a gaming community's cesspool for its angry detritus. Mouth-breathing egoists love to be heard, and the forums are an excellent platform to satisfy that impulse.
See: cyberdisinhibition and negative cognitive bias.
Eternal-Elf
09-04-2010, 12:42 AM
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eqdruid76
09-04-2010, 06:18 AM
It's the same as live, except there is a large contingency of players here who were notorious, infamous, and banned on live. So it's a farily concentrated level of asshole here.
I think the OP has a valid point. Sure, back in Live each server had their fair share of issues, but there really seems to be bad blood here (especially in the forums). EQ might be engaging and a wonderful fantasy world to be in, but some of the people we share it with here make it dark and repulsive.
hueylewis187
09-04-2010, 12:38 PM
I sat and buffed people for 3 days , 6 hours a day. "this week" Random people in qeynos area. Trying to be nice , trying to make someones day a little better.
Than I finally got the camp I wanted after 2 weeks of randomly checking if it was open. Made the named pop after 3 hours. IB members somehow MacroQuest/showeq that it has spawned and come and take it right when me and my wife wipe.
Fuck buffing/helping anyone , It's the evil people that ruin it. No more helping anyone when all we get for it is a kick in the face. There are good people on this server, and the server itself is the bomb. Majority of people on this server are Greedy, Selfish, Narcs, Gnoll jizz at best.
Unfortunately huey, I have seen this to be the case. Many times have nice players hepled me out, for that good kindness to be spoilt only a moment later by some griefer.
Uthgaard
09-04-2010, 07:32 PM
EQFlames, FoH and server boards are particularly salient examples of the theory that forums are a gaming community's cesspool for its angry detritus. Mouth-breathing egoists love to be heard, and the forums are an excellent platform to satisfy that impulse.
See: cyberdisinhibition and negative cognitive bias.
See Also:
Voluntary Quarantine
Rasterburn
09-04-2010, 11:44 PM
Fuck buffing/helping anyone , It's the evil people that ruin it.
Whatcha need........
.....is a server blacklist.
;)
girth
09-04-2010, 11:53 PM
It's the same as any live server was: there were nice people and there were assholes.
jyaku
09-05-2010, 12:22 AM
it seems the assholes outnumber the nice people on this server where on live it was the other way around.
Nedala
09-05-2010, 12:49 AM
it seems the assholes outnumber the nice people on this server where on live it was the other way around.
thats just bullshit, and if you meet more bad people ingame than good people, you are the problem.
Hasbinbad
09-05-2010, 01:59 AM
it seems the assholes outnumber the nice people on this server where on live it was the other way around.
Is that observation based on in-game interactions or forum interactions? This forum is like the Mos Eisley of the p99 galaxy..
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eK9S-ZcB2Mc/R9mtL_5yGnI/AAAAAAAAALE/REPPIbqLnFI/s400/ScumVillainy.jpg
Eccentricaa
09-05-2010, 03:01 AM
It's the same as live, except there is a large contingency of players here who were notorious, infamous, and banned on live. So it's a farily concentrated level of asshole here.
I think im going to have to agree with you there... What is missing from this server, is the nice friendly casual players. *note, there are some nice folks out there, but they are hard to find
The people here, for the most part, are eq addicts. There is an imbalance between those who want a true challenge.. and those who need the bank account to feel successful in this game.
Ive been here a month or so now, and as a semi-casual, never will be a raider, kind of player.. Ive had so many issues with higher levels, who feel justified in stealing named from groups, who train/fd, etc. Its almost a nightly basis, our group/guild has had some run in with someone. Issues ranging from training to steal camps, from walking into camp and sitting directly on named spawn point, claiming it..
How rude is it, to steal a named from a group of lvl 15s, to get an item that might sell for 30p.. Then the same person claims to be generous, because he gave that drop to help out some noob. I like to work for what I have. I like to quest for it, to hunt for it. Its not as gratifying to just buy it from some bot farmer. And I try not to either. My highest character is a lvl 33, who still has one empty slot, and some tattered armor.
I truly feel sorry for the gm's that have to put up with all this stuff, on a daily basis. To play babysitter to a bunch of ADULTS who are not capable of acting civil.
I know that this server recognizes camps... However, with the number of semi afk farmers that box, having one toon sit at each spawn, Im starting to miss the first to hit/damage mob rule. At least then, you could still be first to aggro the mob, away from the semi afk / boxing farmer, who has a slower response.
The boxers are a problem, but not just the ones who play together. The boxers that are the issues are the semi afk farmers, who have toons parked on various spawns, camping multiple locations at once, each solo, and each appearing independent of one another, all while another toon sits in ec selling.
The community really isnt there.. Not in the same way. There are people.. but not really a community. First time around, things were new to all of us. There was a great deal of ooc communication, discoveries, unsolved quests. The number of soloer's here is also out of proportion to numbers on classic. People grouped back then .. Everywhere.. Loot was shared among a group with random chances of winning. (or the random chance of a ninja looter) It wasnt the solo farmers claiming every drop.
Good post Eccentricaa, I feel the same way and you have more or less summed up my thoughts exactly. The classic EQ on Live servers felt much more like a community; people helping each other out, adhering to 'unwritten' rules and respecting each other. Sure, there were some who stretched and broke the rules but these were usually resolved by the community, or in the more serious cases, GMs.
Likewise with your comment on discovery, grouping and solo'ers. Everyone grouped as there was safety in numbers. Occassionally people solo'ed but these were usually solo friendly classes such as druids, necros and mages, and more often than not they would join groups if they were available. I was on Xegony back in the really early days so multiboxing was rare, so there were no issues with spawn camping as you desribe it. I guess now everyone knows where things are, what spawns where, who drops what and where to get the best xp from. There's no point to adventure when you're actively on the treadmill.
My main is only level 10 but I'm turned off by what I'm seeing as I level higher; even at level 10 there is spawn camping and stealing. I want to relive my old EQ experiences but I just don't feel the same here. I don't know... I feel so conflicted.
Anuril
09-05-2010, 05:26 AM
The drugs were better back then.
Bubbles
09-05-2010, 06:28 AM
THERE IS NOTHING CASUAL ABOUT EQ.
Period.
Get.
Over.
It.
It was called "EverCrack" for a reason. The damn game is like mainlining heroin. You don't just "dabble" in EQ.. It simply doesnt happen, just like you don't just "dabble" in crystal meth. You're in or you're not.
If you honestly..
I mean it pains me to type this out...
If you are seriously clueless to where all the happy go lucky tradeskillers, wedding planners, language learners, fishermen, questers, roleplayers, and god knows what else....
If you aren't quite grasping the concept of where they all are.. I'll go ahead and spell it out for you:
THEY STOPPED PLAYING YEARS AGO.
They didn't make the effort, expel needless time and energy finding EQClassic/EQEmu... Set up EMU forum accounts. Find this particular instance of a Classic Server Revival (that actually worked out)..
They were the normal people. They let go. They had kids, they graduated college. They became teachers and scientists and senators and cashiers and whatever else. They moved on with their lives.
The hundred or so hardcore people running this high-end of this server? Yeah, they aren't the people i listed in the previous paragraph. Make your own conclusions.
But for the love of all that is holy, don't prance around on a message board whining about how the clueless 80% that wasn't competitive didn't make it to this incarnation of Everquest. Honestly, it was to be expected. I'm actually pretty pleased that over half the people i come into contact with on this server are cool as heck and fun to interact with. I feel like we're beating the odds in spite of it all.
:)
But seriously, it's a real simple math/logic equation. The casual fan base didnt survive Live EQ. It's not entirely shocking that they weren't maniacal enough about EQ to end up here.
Noleafclover
09-05-2010, 07:01 AM
Good post Bubbles.
And I don't feel like you have to be an asshole to newbies just by being hardcore (in response to Eccentricaa) I'd agree most of the assholes are hardcore, but there are also a lot of people who want to help newbies out and are willing to provide advice/assistance/platinum.
To continue what Bubbles is saying, the mystery is gone. It's 10 years old. So you won't really get people coming on to explore an unknown world, but more of us are here to conquer it like we didn't the first time around when we were exploring. It's a different experience in a lot of ways for me.
And you get what we had here last week. Which is the way he wants it... well he gets it.
Nah, but you get hardcore guilds fighting to be the ones to get to conquer. There's some competition. Just the way it is. Not that it wasn't there in 99, but it'll definitely be visible to the casual now, since even the casual doesn't have a mysterious world to occupy him.
Flicka
09-05-2010, 07:51 AM
*looks surprised* not to discount anyone's feelings or bad experiences, hey I've had them too! But life is what you make of it. So is this game. If you focus on griefing or greed or training or the campers or the high end guilds or whatever pisses you off and just keep THAT in your sights then yeah this server sucks. But so will any other server on any other game you play.
Find your own joy. Don't let a negative experience ruin what makes you happy and the reason you logged on. If all you look for is the bad, well then that is all you will see.
Nothing is "owed" to you for your good deeds. Also if something "bad" happens afterwards it's not reverse karma?
eqdruid76
09-05-2010, 08:22 AM
Whatcha need........
.....is a server blacklist.
;)
There's the crux of the redundancy of P99; THIS FORUM is the server blacklist, yet 100% of the time the ones who get blacklisted are the ones with the gripe, legitimate or otherwise.
Bubbles, Noleaf and Flicka all make good points but I think you're all missing the intention of the original post; others should no spoil the fun of others. There's no point stealing spawns for low level loot (probably intended for twinks or powerleveling). There's no need for lowering ourselves to a shouting raving mob of lunes. We can all play Everquest the way we want without ruining it for others.
Perhaps I shouldn't be posting this, but I know I for one would love to see a bit more civility on these forums. A maybe a more iron first to resolve anti-social behaviour. That said, I've met some real nice people, so we aren't all bad apples.
Aarone
09-05-2010, 08:35 AM
The more I read Flicka, the more I like what she has to write!!
Eccentricaa
09-05-2010, 08:44 AM
Like I said in my post, the people in our guild are casual players. We are not and never will be raiders, in the search of status.
We have been playing eq as a group, for 10 years off and on, frequently restarting character sets.
Its the game play we like. Having a sold group or two, capable of crawling dungeons beyond our lvl, fighting all reds, enjoying the dungeon crawl for what it is. A game.
I play, more than the others in our guild. So instead of leveling past my friends, I created alts, and kept my 'main' guild group character in group able range, so we can enjoy our nightly hunts in dungeons.
We are casual players, who did seek out the classic experience. The additional challenge of hunting without defiant gear, or cushy exp bonuses.
If you people want to see the populations of this server, continue to grow, you have to consider what it takes to build a community. Otherwise you will end up with a guild of 30 (and 200 boxed alt accounts) in a circle jerk, patting each other on the backs for being king of the world. The world consisting of only themselves.
If you people want to see the populations of this server, continue to grow, you have to consider what it takes to build a community. Otherwise you will end up with a guild of 30 (and 200 boxed alt accounts) in a circle jerk, patting each other on the backs for being king of the world. The world consisting of only themselves.
Well said.
zianlo1
09-05-2010, 10:45 AM
THERE IS NOTHING CASUAL ABOUT EQ.
If you are seriously clueless to where all the happy go lucky tradeskillers, wedding planners, language learners, fishermen, questers, roleplayers, and god knows what else....
If you aren't quite grasping the concept of where they all are.. I'll go ahead and spell it out for you:
I did the languages (knew all langs on my necro), quests and ts'd quite a bit back then. The community is what made the game fun for me. I dunno if its here or not, I just dont have the time to commit to an mmo like I used to when I was 15 :(
Rasterburn
09-05-2010, 10:57 AM
THERE IS NOTHING CASUAL ABOUT EQ.
Period.
Get.
Over.
It.
Precisely. This is not a game for slackers.
When you get right down to it, "casual" means wanting all of the rewards -- but without doing all of the work.
ShadowWulf
09-05-2010, 10:58 AM
I dunno, me and my play every night and despite whatever class we choose to play we ALWAYS group. People who run into us tend to be rather fun. Sometimes youll get a jerk now and then but for the most part people are nice, and Ilike to think those we play with are also left with a good impression :)
Rasterburn
09-05-2010, 11:07 AM
^^ what he said.
And actually, one of my toons was grouped with Stalin last night, at Derv3 in NRo. Was a fine group and everyone pulled their own weight.
And you missed seeing me and Japan ending up as a team and pulling red con deepwater crocs in Oasis later that night. Aggro kiting FTW. :D
eqdruid76
09-05-2010, 08:29 PM
Precisely. This is not a game for slackers.
When you get right down to it, "casual" means wanting all of the rewards -- but without doing all of the work.
I disagree.
Casual means not caring about all of the rewards, and doing the work THEY want to do, not what their guild leaders want them to do.
eqdruid76
09-05-2010, 08:30 PM
I dunno, me and my play every night and despite whatever class we choose to play we ALWAYS group. People who run into us tend to be rather fun. Sometimes youll get a jerk now and then but for the most part people are nice, and Ilike to think those we play with are also left with a good impression :)
The thing you're going to begin to see as you get more levels is that high level play turns just about everyone into a major douche. Even the nice players you levelled up with.
Hasbinbad
09-05-2010, 08:32 PM
The thing you're going to begin to see as you get more levels is that high level play turns just about everyone into a major douche. Even the nice players you levelled up with.
Not me..
I was always a major douche..
eqdruid76
09-05-2010, 09:06 PM
Not me..
I was always a major douche..
Aye, and then there's that. See an earlier post of mine in this thread>:P
ShadowWulf
09-05-2010, 09:20 PM
The thing you're going to begin to see as you get more levels is that high level play turns just about everyone into a major douche. Even the nice players you levelled up with.
Ive seen it on live. Beyond that, I also played EvE for almost 5 years as a pirate and thus I have a very, very, very thick skin. The pure rage that was personally directed at me from that game has pretty much made me immune to everything else.
Abacab niggah
09-05-2010, 09:56 PM
And actually, one of my toons was grouped with Stalin last night, at Derv3 in NRo.
http://images.memegenerator.net/stalinnn/ImageMacro/2457293/Stalin-shouts-Derv3-LFM-Stalin-shouts-I-get-their-gypsy-rings-I-have-quest.jpg
ShadowWulf
09-05-2010, 10:02 PM
Buhahaha....
On a related note, I do have 45 Rings to turn in now. :cool:
eqdruid76
09-06-2010, 06:26 AM
Ive seen it on live. Beyond that, I also played EvE for almost 5 years as a pirate and thus I have a very, very, very thick skin. The pure rage that was personally directed at me from that game has pretty much made me immune to everything else.
Thick skin is one thing. The inability to progress per grief from said retards is another.
HeallunRumblebelly
09-06-2010, 05:34 PM
Not me..
I was always a major douche..
Hasbinbad Cr'd my corpse in sola while he was leveling D=
He's not always a douche!
HeallunRumblebelly
09-06-2010, 05:35 PM
http://images.memegenerator.net/stalinnn/ImageMacro/2457293/Stalin-shouts-Derv3-LFM-Stalin-shouts-I-get-their-gypsy-rings-I-have-quest.jpg
DO LOVE THIS POAST D=
ukaking
09-06-2010, 05:56 PM
Many good points!
My wife and I are casual gamers. We dont care about rewards as much as just finding a good group and enjoying a night of slaying. We like to check out the scenery when we travel and take in the EQ world as it was intended.
We have met MANY MANY good people here! We have seen the douches, but mostly on the forums. We could care less who killed what boss and who is poopsocking, etc.
This is a great game given back to us through some majorly painstaking hard work from the devs and some of us appreciate it for what it is.
More than anything, Kunark will be the answer for my fond memories and I will weep the day I make my first iksar again and travel down that famed path into the Field of Bone. This time around, my wife will get to experience it for the first time.
Thank you for listening.
eqdruid76
09-06-2010, 06:05 PM
Many good points!
My wife and I are casual gamers. We dont care about rewards as much as just finding a good group and enjoying a night of slaying. We like to check out the scenery when we travel and take in the EQ world as it was intended.
We have met MANY MANY good people here! We have seen the douches, but mostly on the forums. We could care less who killed what boss and who is poopsocking, etc.
This is a great game given back to us through some majorly painstaking hard work from the devs and some of us appreciate it for what it is.
More than anything, Kunark will be the answer for my fond memories and I will weep the day I make my first iksar again and travel down that famed path into the Field of Bone. This time around, my wife will get to experience it for the first time.
Thank you for listening.
Sounds like you play for all the right reasons. I hope you don't get discouraged when/if Kunark finally goes live. Because THAT is when all the douchebags on these forums who haven't even played the game for 9 months will be back.
I also predict that DA/IB will camp the mobs for Sebilis and Howling Stones keys to cockblock anyone else from getting in. That really sounds like something they would do...
Ronas
09-06-2010, 06:42 PM
I also predict that DA/IB will camp the mobs for Sebilis and Howling Stones keys to cockblock anyone else from getting in. That really sounds like something they would do...
Depends really, OS is 52+ so would be a day or so without anyone farming the key, then will be a week worth of blockage, then another week where 100+ people pack into the one zone and probably another 2 months worth of trak blockage then they all be out of our hair chilling in VP till epic come in.
So overall would be 3 months worth of shit till it all pans out.
ukaking
09-06-2010, 07:03 PM
Will take my wife and I a year to level a new iksar to that point, lol. We should be ok!
Bubbles
09-06-2010, 07:53 PM
I also predict that DA/IB will camp the mobs for Sebilis and Howling Stones keys to cockblock anyone else from getting in. That really sounds like something they would do...
lol I predict that a bunch of unguilded Druids will go ahd and cockblock everyone from seb keys just for sheer amusement.
HeallunRumblebelly
09-06-2010, 10:33 PM
lol I predict that a bunch of unguilded Druids will go ahd and cockblock everyone from seb keys just for sheer amusement.
Teams of Bards and wizards! SPEED + INSTAGIB, MAKE IT SO D=
Rasterburn
09-07-2010, 12:24 AM
Or wizzy manaburn teams. ;)
lol I predict that a bunch of unguilded Druids will go ahd and cockblock everyone from seb keys just for sheer amusement.
I predict ogres/trolls will build a wall of meat around the seb entrance orb to cockblock everyone just for sheer awesome.
Exeno
09-07-2010, 09:07 AM
I think it is the opposite here... People back then were ass holes and acted like since they were 45+ they were gods. Here people buff up people all day for free, give out gear and so on. The only the gay shit is with the class's but once u get 20+ people seem to not care as much bout that shit.
I think it should be mandatory for people to buff newbies in ec. Since mostly everyone there sits around and sells stuff
Precisely. This is not a game for slackers.
When you get right down to it, "casual" means wanting all of the rewards -- but without doing all of the work.
bullshit
Dantes
09-07-2010, 02:57 PM
The only difference between this server and a live server is the amount of people with marijuana related names. Seriously. Did nobody toke up back in the day or did they just not talk about it? Maybe you gotta be stoner to waste your time playing a 10 year old video game. I dunno, it's odd.
But in all seriousness, people are much nicer here on P99 than classic. I've had tons of people help me out with free gear. Back in the day you had to have a character with tits to get free gear. And lots of the groups I have been in were full of great people. I don't know what server you are playing on, but it doesn't sound like P99 to me.
Crash
09-07-2010, 04:19 PM
My experience so far has been as good or better than Live, easily.
ShadowWulf
09-07-2010, 04:36 PM
The only difference between this server and a live server is the amount of people with marijuana related names. Seriously. Did nobody toke up back in the day or did they just not talk about it? Maybe you gotta be stoner to waste your time playing a 10 year old video game. I dunno, it's odd.
Its usually the same old people trying to be "edgy" or funny. Usually these same people join a group and do nothing but talk about it also, as if people really give a shit. Id be more impressed if you started talking about your weekend repairing your back deck and doing some hands on dog training with puppys than harping on the name of your bong.
Id be more impressed if you started talking about your weekend repairing your back deck and doing some hands on dog training with puppys than harping on the name of your bong.
Reminds me that I have a dog competition this Sunday. Wouldn't think anyone in EQ would care :P
Braveguard
09-08-2010, 08:09 AM
So many try to rationalize their own behavior by saying that "everyone" is doing it. Everyone isn't doing it. If you're doing something skeevy, it's because your being a skeeve (dunno if that's a word but it sounds right).
Casual players do not usually want all the rewards with no effort. Most of the casuals I've met are just better at being satisfied with taking in the moment instead of pushing for some imagined post-50 (or whatever the level cap is) goal.
"Nice" people do not turn into douches when they get to high level. If you're a douche at 50, it's not because you have to be or because things change. It's because you're a douche. I played classic at the high end. My entire guild was filled with cool people. I don't remember us ever getting into a flame war. We never stole a camp or got into a shouting match or did any of those things that seem to be a problem here. However... we were not interested in competing to "get there first". We mostly just wanted to play with friends, have a good time and enjoy the game. We did. Of course, we had a few people leave us after a time so they could go to hardcore raid guilds and we had our share of (usually short-term) members who were focused on loot but, generally, we were just happy to do some raiding and grinding together.
As for P99, unfortunately I've seen more bastards than heroes so far. The heroes give me hope that there is still fun to be had though. The biggest problem I see so far is the lack of interest in grouping. I think that's mostly because of my class. I think I might start again as a tank to see if that generates more interest. I group with my regular partner usually but it would be nice to meet more people and I'm thinking the people that group (even when not raiding) might be a different crowd than the hoards of solos out in the Karanas. Maybe one day, we'll even find a guild worth joining.
It seems that at lower levels people are very nice and helpful. Generally speaking, because I've had a number of eyebrow raising experiences with twinks ;) All in all, I've had nothing but good groups the past couple of days.
What is your class/level Braveguard?
Braveguard
09-08-2010, 02:10 PM
I just started up my signature paladin. I got to level 9. I'll probably just keep playing him now. Maybe go back to the druid for a change every now and again.
Regnon
09-08-2010, 03:04 PM
I started back last week, fairly casual with my playing time because of Work and RL responsiblities.
But this server....so far, sucks for grouping. Try to find a group for Orcs in EC, nothing, Try to find a group for Blackburrow , nothing...everyone is trying to solo.
Im not a twink, i Don't have +55 HP rings and full class armor, I cant solo this crap. Yet getting a group is totally impossible. I almost want to reroll a cleric or druid so at least I can get groups.
LizardNecro
09-08-2010, 04:21 PM
I just want to jump in and say how nice people have been. Two friends of mine were straight up given flowing black robes in najena. I was given one as well by a guildmember.
I think people have been super nice!
Ponden
09-08-2010, 04:52 PM
Regnon, my advice to you is as follows...
Take the initiative and start groups yourself. Don't think you need twink gear to get groups, you don't. You can't sit back and expect things to work out, be pro-active. Send tells to people in your level range and get some groups together.
Bingo on what Ponden said. I don't care if someone is a twink or not in my group. If you want to group, send out a /ooc or /shout or a direct /tell to a group member. Always works for me.
I just logged in to play an hour and i have to agree the tunnel seems shitty now. Never seen so much people. Never had this much trouble getting buffs to solo.
Ronas
09-09-2010, 01:45 AM
http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=168099
Progression Server - A progression server has been asked to be launched for quite some time. When we did the polls last year, the Mayong 51/50 server was chosen as the front runner and a progression server was chosen as a runner-up. The Mayong launched and had a great turnout but we are ready to turn a new page with that server and move onto the next best thing. After popular demand and much feedback by you, we believe a time-locked progression server is the best one to launch next. So we're discussing the best time to launch and best roll out plan to unlock each expansion so that content is maximized and accomplished and balanced so that you are not rushed nor left behind.
Scheduling for a Progression Server - We are currently all hands into development on our House of Thule expansion (launching October 12, 2010) and we are giving it as much attention as needed to ensure a great launch. Focusing on a progression server launch will have to come after the House of Thule, where as a schedule will be determined at that time. We have a time frame in our minds that makes sense to us and with our schedule but we will hold off on announcing that time frame until after a successful expansion release.
Posted date: 08/30/2010....
What this a p99 wannabe live server? Would be interesting if they actually brought it back to origanal with patch by patch release date x2 speed, so example, kunark would be within 6month of lock instead of 1 year.
Thanks for that informative post Ronas. I think a Progression Server, in it's truest form, will only work if it is designed like how P99 is, back to Classic. If its just the landmass of the original EQ release, but with the rules of current EQ, then I don't see the point returning. That said, I'll be keeping my eye on this. I wonder how it will work with EQ Next?
Ponden
09-09-2010, 02:50 AM
The last progression servers were horrible.
How were they implemented?
Nedala
09-09-2010, 05:34 AM
I started back last week, fairly casual with my playing time because of Work and RL responsiblities.
But this server....so far, sucks for grouping. Try to find a group for Orcs in EC, nothing, Try to find a group for Blackburrow , nothing...everyone is trying to solo.
Im not a twink, i Don't have +55 HP rings and full class armor, I cant solo this crap. Yet getting a group is totally impossible. I almost want to reroll a cleric or druid so at least I can get groups.
So many people complaining about finding groups, why i am the only person who seems to not have any problems finding groups?
I think you guys just do something wrong. Sometimes it takes a bit time but i always find one. Use /who zone-in-your-level-range , send people in that zones tells, ask them if they are grouped, if there is spot in grp if not if you can get on the list. Ask them if other groups in zones, whats camped, who are the group leaders, send tells to the group leaders, get on as many lists as possible. If that doesnt work, make your own group. Star with /who lfg you lvl range (for example /who lfg 18 24) If theres not enough start with /who tank or healer in your lvl range. /who all cleric 18 24, /who all pal 18 24 and so on) send the nearest to your location tells, there is ALWAYS a way to build a grp. As soon as you got tank and heals fill rest with dps its easy. Dont aim just for the LFGs send tells to non LFGs you will always find people, just takes a bit effort.
You doing it wrong.
Nedala
09-09-2010, 05:35 AM
Also keep adding good grp members to your friend lists as more as you get on it as easier it will be to find groups/people to fill your grps.
Thanks Nedala, that's some useful info (especially the /who lfg , /who all <class> with level range queries.
Rasterburn
09-09-2010, 09:39 AM
why i am the only person who seems to not have any problems finding groups?
Because you player a healing class, and because you belong to a fairly large guild.
You doing it wrong.
Nope that's not true. Like many others here, I agree that getting into a decent group on this server is a lot more difficult than it should be... probably because there are so many people playing solo classes. Just take a look at that poll regarding "Who is your main and alt" and you will see what I mean. Look at how many people are playing necromancers, for example. It's a disproportionately high number, given the general breakdown of the rest of the classes.
I think the opportunities for grouping are far more limited on this server than they should be. And that's bad, because a lack of community cohesion and interdependence is precisely what killed EQ live in the first place. We seem to be seeing a repeat of that same dynamic here.
Nedala
09-09-2010, 11:50 AM
I often send tells to Mages and Necs to fill DPS spots and i often get them to group with....
Also i play an enchanter too, and i wasnt in a large guild all the time. I group very often with non-guild-grps so your point doesnt count really.
You will now probably say sure i find lot groups on my ench because of crack, and on my druid because shes a healer, but i also had no troubles finding groups on my ench b4 she was lvl 29. The key is to send a lot of tells, im absolutely sure there is not much difference for all classes.
Nedala
09-09-2010, 11:52 AM
Damn you no-edit-button:
I agree that there is too much soloing going on since the grp exp was nerfed solo exp is just WAY to much profitable imo, id like too see either solo exp nerfed or grp exp improved.
Rasterburn
09-09-2010, 12:10 PM
I agree that there is too much soloing going on since the grp exp was nerfed solo exp is just WAY to much profitable imo, id like too see either solo exp nerfed or grp exp improved.
Like I said: take a look at that poll. And take a look at which class is in the majority. It's my class... necromancers, who are generally accepted to be the most versatile solo class in the game. So if that poll is any indication of the breakdown of classes on this server, then it becomes clear that we have a LOT of people soloing and significantly less people grouping.
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