Modern US "soldier"ing vs the dole

[Big_Japan]

US Military/Police:


Paid to murder and oppress browns and political enemies
Required to fit narrow imperialist political views or maintain silence to get by socially and preserve government cheese budget
All dignity removed, body and soul is now property of corrupt state and life will never be a net positive for this world
Unable to truly be proud of kid's mind, parents cling to state media-sponsored "hero" worship and always define lost child in terms of their unremarkable soldiery, although they've never done any soldiery beyond shooting fish in a barrel or driving around waiting to get blown up
100% manchildren with no self-respect or ability to contribute to society


Welfare/EBT/The Dole:


Paid not to retaliate for murder and oppression of browns and political enemies
Required to fit narrow faux-liberal political views and inflate turnout to vote for Endless War Party B to preserve welfare benefits
All dignity removed, dependence on welfare benefits renders enough leverage to state to pacify you permanently
Unable to rationalize kid's failure as a human, parents blame the "system" for their misfortune in work ethic and personal quality, although they never bothered to learn a useful thing in their life
100% ******s with no self-respect or ability to contribute to society


almost liek they are 2 sides of the same coin balanced perfectly to keep us endlessly dependent on others and unable to vote for any meaningful change, what do u think??

[Ele]

On a scale of 10 out of 10, how mad are you?

[JayN]

harvesting their bountiful harvest one side of the coin at a time we are just their cattle.... now stfu and get back to working for them

[Argh]

Dole fruit cups are delicious.

[Azure]

You know what I think. I think that no matter how right you are. I nor you can neither do shit about it.

What kind of brown or Nazi does that make you?

For this to change. The general nature of the environment and culture of the earth and human race needs to be changed. This. Is not going to happen. Ever. In our life times.

I'm not saying it's wrong to think like you do. But how Jesus do you want to get on people?

[Big_Japan]

You know what I think. I think that no matter how right you are. I nor you can neither do shit about it.

What kind of brown or Nazi does that make you?

For this to change. The general nature of the environment and culture of the earth and human race needs to be changed. This. Is not going to happen. Ever. In our life times.

I'm not saying it's wrong to think like you do. But how Jesus do you want to get on people?

You disgust me, coward.

[Azure]

Were did I demonstrate fear? I'm simply implying the logistics of changing what you bitch about amount to a baby seal trying to eat a shark.

[Jay F Kay]

Whatever change you wish to enact will most definitely happen now that you've made your elf simulator forum post. You totally didn't waste your time writing that at all.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Dole fruit cups are delicious.

Unbelievably good

[Lune]

Dole fruit cups are delicious.

110% sugar

[Argh]

110% sugar

I like my sugar with a side of fruit.

[Daldolma]

op stop being such a hbb

[leewong]

You know what I think. I think that no matter how right you are. I nor you can neither do shit about it.

What kind of brown or Nazi does that make you?

For this to change. The general nature of the environment and culture of the earth and human race needs to be changed. This. Is not going to happen. Ever. In our life times.

I'm not saying it's wrong to think like you do. But how Jesus do you want to get on people?

Individually you are right. It is only when individuals unite in a common cause that changes take place. We are a society after all...

The largest threat to our republic is money in politics. Since around 1976/1978, when corporations were established as living entities and were allowed to spend money in non-candidate elections (i.e. ballot initiatives and referendums), politicians have consistently voted in line with corporations and against the will of the people. Until people unite to end it this will go on and on.

Dont get caught up in partisan politics. I believe this country is far too polarized politically. Democrat this, republicans that. Blah, blah, blah...it is a game of divide and conquer. Both parties fight to uphold the steady stream of money into their pockets.

TLDR version: Quit being apathetic. Realize the common goal that all of us share and work to inform others of it. Raise the public conscience and things will change rather quickly.

[Glenzig]

The real point of politics is to obfuscate the reality of its citizens having no real choice in the matter of the ruler ship over them. Drawing hard party lines keeps people distracted as to the reality that all politicians, at least once they reach a certain status, are all working for the same agenda when it comes down to it. They all have the same basic policies, they just word them differently. They all make the same empty promises that will either never be fulfilled, or will fall drastically short of their intent. The real goal is to keep people just informed enough to feel justified in their political stance, while keeping them uninformed as to the actual goings on of politicians and their motives. Its all a mind game that the every day man will continue to lose. Its the way its always been. Nothing will change it for the better.

[leewong]

The real point of politics is to obfuscate the reality of its citizens having no real choice in the matter of the ruler ship over them. Drawing hard party lines keeps people distracted as to the reality that all politicians, at least once they reach a certain status, are all working for the same agenda when it comes down to it. They all have the same basic policies, they just word them differently. They all make the same empty promises that will either never be fulfilled, or will fall drastically short of their intent. The real goal is to keep people just informed enough to feel justified in their political stance, while keeping them uninformed as to the actual goings on of politicians and their motives. Its all a mind game that the every day man will continue to lose. Its the way its always been. Nothing will change it for the better.

Animal rights movement, Anti-Apartheid Movement, Anti-colonial movements, Anti-consumerism, Anti-nuclear movement, Anti-war movement, Anti-globalization movement, Arab Spring, Black Consciousness Movement, Children's Rights movement, Civil rights movement, Conservation movement, Counter-culture movement, Cooperative movement, Cultural movement, Disability rights movement, The Dream Act, Ecology movement, Environmental justice movement, Environmental movement, Farm Worker Movement, Feminist movement, Food not Bombs, Free software movement, Free love, Free Speech Movement, Global justice movement, Hippie Movement, Human rights movement, Hunger Relief for Africa movement, Indigenous peoples movement, Labor movement, Landless Peoples Movement (South Africa), Landless Workers' Movement (MST), the landless workers' movement in Brasil, LGBT social movements (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender social movements), Libertarianism, Men's rights movement, Naturism, Nazism, Non-violence movement, Renewable Energy movement, Right to life, Skeptical movement, Student movement, Women's liberation movement, Women's suffrage movement...just to name a few.

You are completely right. None of these movements produced any change. We hold the same exact rights we had during the dark ages. Nothing has changed and there is nothing anyone can do about a few bullies with a lot of money and power even though we outnumber them 99-1. Nothing will ever change. Woe is me.

Apathy will get you no where and your attitude is almost as harmful as the greed that fuels the current paradigm.

[georgie]

everyone in this thread is super smart

[leewong]

everyone in this thread is super smart

How high should ones IQ be to participate? Is mindless trolling your way to show just how smart you are or are you just another apathetic voice that wants company?

[Glenzig]

everyone in this thread is super smart

Absolutely.

[Glenzig]

Animal rights movement, Anti-Apartheid Movement, Anti-colonial movements, Anti-consumerism, Anti-nuclear movement, Anti-war movement, Anti-globalization movement, Arab Spring, Black Consciousness Movement, Children's Rights movement, Civil rights movement, Conservation movement, Counter-culture movement, Cooperative movement, Cultural movement, Disability rights movement, The Dream Act, Ecology movement, Environmental justice movement, Environmental movement, Farm Worker Movement, Feminist movement, Food not Bombs, Free software movement, Free love, Free Speech Movement, Global justice movement, Hippie Movement, Human rights movement, Hunger Relief for Africa movement, Indigenous peoples movement, Labor movement, Landless Peoples Movement (South Africa), Landless Workers' Movement (MST), the landless workers' movement in Brasil, LGBT social movements (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender social movements), Libertarianism, Men's rights movement, Naturism, Nazism, Non-violence movement, Renewable Energy movement, Right to life, Skeptical movement, Student movement, Women's liberation movement, Women's suffrage movement...just to name a few.

You are completely right. None of these movements produced any change. We hold the same exact rights we had during the dark ages. Nothing has changed and there is nothing anyone can do about a few bullies with a lot of money and power even though we outnumber them 99-1. Nothing will ever change. Woe is me.

Apathy will get you no where and your attitude is almost as harmful as the greed that fuels the current paradigm.

I didn't say I was anti government. I just said that politics is a sham and that won't ever change.

[leewong]

I didn't say I was anti government. I just said that politics is a sham and that won't ever change.

I never implied you were anti-government but you are blind if you cannot see politics over the ages have changed dramatically. The internet arguably will have a broader affect than the printing press and agriculture combined. Name a period in time that the masses could organize and communicate instantaneously across the globe. Name a time in history prior to 1994 when the news you received could be disseminated by anyone and everyone not just the filthy rich and those that owned printing presses and television stations.

[Lune]

US Air Force bars Atheist airman for refusing religious oath (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/9/5/atheist-airforceoath.html)

I hereby refuse to clap for soldiers at the airport until this is changed.

[Champion_Standing]

What religion is God from?

[Anichek]

US Military/Police:

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VS.

The Dole:

http://thefinereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Bob-Dole.jpg

Round 1: Firepower

I give the Military Police Round 1. With access to the US Military's arsenal, they should have no difficulty in overcoming Bob Dole - who can only dual wield a PEN with either a scimitar, small handgun, or knife.

http://fnvaughn.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/181208-a-1377v-145.jpg


Round 2: Public Speaking

Being that the minimum GT score requirement for the MP is barely higher than the minimum for entry in the Army - weigh that against Dole's oratory career - Round 2 goes to Dole, even though he may be drowned out initially by the echoes of "hoooah", ballscratching, and sound of Copenhagen spit splattering on the ground.

http://northfield.org/files/DoleLgWEB.jpg


Round 3: Straight up Sex Appeal

The US Military has standards which, when applied properly, require a reasonable amount of physical fitness from their members. MP's rotate through shifts, standing and sitting, walking and riding in armored vehicles. It's reasonably certain they are in good shape, and could be "sexy".....

....Bob Dole, on the other hand, exudes so much charm and raw fucking machismo that it's only been rivaled by John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, and Tyler Durden. Plus the motherfucker is was THE definitive and original spokesman for Viagra - dude LOVES to bang bitches, and can go all night. He's kinky as fuck, too - that right hand of his is stuck the way it is from constantly full-fisting bitches for porno films (where he's the body double providing the arm/fist in the next gaping vagina)

http://graphics.ctyme.com/gif/dolesun.gif

http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mVFopFduhsvNRReXSYVgjBw.jpg

http://bp0.blogger.com/_ZvcL7qhQ3B8/R7pjiyqdV9I/AAAAAAAAAXA/B6UxgIc3Do8/s400/ED.jpg

Round 3, and the match, goes to The Dole.

[Rawradin]

US Military/Police:


Paid to murder and oppress browns and political enemies
Required to fit narrow imperialist political views or maintain silence to get by socially and preserve government cheese budget
All dignity removed, body and soul is now property of corrupt state and life will never be a net positive for this world
Unable to truly be proud of kid's mind, parents cling to state media-sponsored "hero" worship and always define lost child in terms of their unremarkable soldiery, although they've never done any soldiery beyond shooting fish in a barrel or driving around waiting to get blown up
100% manchildren with no self-respect or ability to contribute to society


Welfare/EBT/The Dole:


Paid not to retaliate for murder and oppression of browns and political enemies
Required to fit narrow faux-liberal political views and inflate turnout to vote for Endless War Party B to preserve welfare benefits
All dignity removed, dependence on welfare benefits renders enough leverage to state to pacify you permanently
Unable to rationalize kid's failure as a human, parents blame the "system" for their misfortune in work ethic and personal quality, although they never bothered to learn a useful thing in their life
100% ******s with no self-respect or ability to contribute to society


almost liek they are 2 sides of the same coin balanced perfectly to keep us endlessly dependent on others and unable to vote for any meaningful change, what do u think??

Alright Mr. Big, I liked some of the stuff you said in the ISIS thread.. and the Military/police list has some truth to it... But you list multiple things under each bullet that are definitely false.

Ex: Bullet #3 - Dignity removal (Check), Body and soul enslaved (Check), But they might make a difference in the world for the better... I know some good police officers. I know some good military men who have never harmed a soul, and have made huge positive impacts on my life.

I'm not saying you dont have some good points here.. but in the future, when making a list riddled with controversy, you might want to narrow the information behind each point down to ... well, a single point :D


You know what I think. I think that no matter how right you are. I nor you can neither do shit about it.

What kind of brown or Nazi does that make you?

For this to change. The general nature of the environment and culture of the earth and human race needs to be changed. This. Is not going to happen. Ever. In our life times.

I'm not saying it's wrong to think like you do. But how Jesus do you want to get on people?

Azure... you see things in tunnel vision, and have horrible grammar.

The only reason I'm quoting you is to bring up a good point out of a bad one. The nature of the environment is constantly being changed, for the worse. The culture of the earth??.. cmon man.. Culture is a way of life. Trust me, your culture is vastly different from mine, and mine from an Iranian, an Iranian's from a Hatian... North Korean... I mean shall I continue until I reach the hunter/gatherer cultures that still exist today like all humans existed before civilizations figured out how to store food...?

The real point of politics is to obfuscate the reality of its citizens having no real choice in the matter of the ruler ship over them. Drawing hard party lines keeps people distracted as to the reality that all politicians, at least once they reach a certain status, are all working for the same agenda when it comes down to it. They all have the same basic policies, they just word them differently. They all make the same empty promises that will either never be fulfilled, or will fall drastically short of their intent. The real goal is to keep people just informed enough to feel justified in their political stance, while keeping them uninformed as to the actual goings on of politicians and their motives. Its all a mind game that the every day man will continue to lose. Its the way its always been. Nothing will change it for the better.

Imo, this guy has the best grasp on politics in this thread so far.


How high should ones IQ be to participate? Is mindless trolling your way to show just how smart you are or are you just another apathetic voice that wants company?

And this guy is a prime example of someone who lives their life as a Dole. lol... but seriously, Leewong, the only point you're making is that the person behind the 'Leewong' tag does not have a real opinion on the matter, refuses to formulate an opinion on the matter, and proceeds to post mindless emotional banter in an attempt to evoke more mindless emotional banter. Leewong.. YOU and everyone like you are part of the problem.


As far as my thoughts...

I think there are more than 2 sides... making this not a coin metaphor.

The military/police aren't the problem... and 'The dole' aren't the problem.

Guys... we are humans. Odds are that 100% of the people reading this right now will not live more than a century... Most, probably much less.

The people that are in charge of the Executive and Legislative branches are the people that control this countries assets. It's not one person or 2... My guess is a handful... maybe 10 or 20...? The only part of the Judicial branch that could possibly do anything about the state of our country is The Supreme Court, and it has become a small hurdle that the other 2 branches 'deal' with when they have to. And in reality, The Supreme Court bows down to the other 2.

With all this being said, the 5-50 people that have inherited this country's wealth and power and secrets are going to hold on to them for as long they can, or until they die, if they do die.

hahah Rawradin your an idiot omfg troll whatusaying vampires rule our country?
<Going to move on from here because if you choose to flame me for mentioning the idea of immortality, then you're stuck inside Azure's tunnel>

These "Ruling Elite" (Commonly known as an Oligarchy) will pass their power down to their children and so on and so forth as it has been done throught Human history, until "someone" does something about it.

As Lord Acton said, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

^^^

How to change this country? Here's my list:

1) Educate yourself
2) Stop paying your taxes (optional)
3) Stop eating Sugar, Salt, and mass produced Meats. (Absolutely Mandatory)
4) Turn off the 'News' --- All forms of it.. All the main media channels are completely and abso-fucking-lutely owned by politicians and people who are paid by politicians. All of your local news stations are in the same boat, just on a smaller scale.
5) Get involved in your local government (Do whatever you can, go to city council meetings, I believe in most parts of this country they are open to the public... Shit, run for city council!)
6) VOTE --- And be fucking learned on what you're fucking voting on.
7) Excercise.

I could probably come up with a few more points... But I think this list might be quite challenging to even the most SINCERE activist.

[Bazia]

nothing better than opinions about foreign policy from people who've never been to a foreign country

[Faron]

Yeah it's completely impossible to know about the subject of foreign policy until you've taken a vacation which includes stepping across the invisible line that separates this place from that place.

[Bazia]

You're right, all places are the same just a bunch of dumb invisible lines

[leewong]

And this guy is a prime example of someone who lives their life as a Dole. lol... but seriously, Leewong, the only point you're making is that the person behind the 'Leewong' tag does not have a real opinion on the matter, refuses to formulate an opinion on the matter, and proceeds to post mindless emotional banter in an attempt to evoke more mindless emotional banter. Leewong.. YOU and everyone like you are part of the problem.


As far as my thoughts...

I think there are more than 2 sides... making this not a coin metaphor.

The military/police aren't the problem... and 'The dole' aren't the problem.

Guys... we are humans. Odds are that 100% of the people reading this right now will not live more than a century... Most, probably much less.

The people that are in charge of the Executive and Legislative branches are the people that control this countries assets. It's not one person or 2... My guess is a handful... maybe 10 or 20...? The only part of the Judicial branch that could possibly do anything about the state of our country is The Supreme Court, and it has become a small hurdle that the other 2 branches 'deal' with when they have to. And in reality, The Supreme Court bows down to the other 2.

With all this being said, the 5-50 people that have inherited this country's wealth and power and secrets are going to hold on to them for as long they can, or until they die, if they do die.

hahah Rawradin your an idiot omfg troll whatusaying vampires rule our country?
<Going to move on from here because if you choose to flame me for mentioning the idea of immortality, then you're stuck inside Azure's tunnel>

These "Ruling Elite" (Commonly known as an Oligarchy) will pass their power down to their children and so on and so forth as it has been done throught Human history, until "someone" does something about it.

As Lord Acton said, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

^^^

How to change this country? Here's my list:

1) Educate yourself
2) Stop paying your taxes (optional)
3) Stop eating Sugar, Salt, and mass produced Meats. (Absolutely Mandatory)
4) Turn off the 'News' --- All forms of it.. All the main media channels are completely and abso-fucking-lutely owned by politicians and people who are paid by politicians. All of your local news stations are in the same boat, just on a smaller scale.
5) Get involved in your local government (Do whatever you can, go to city council meetings, I believe in most parts of this country they are open to the public... Shit, run for city council!)
6) VOTE --- And be fucking learned on what you're fucking voting on.
7) Excercise.

I could probably come up with a few more points... But I think this list might be quite challenging to even the most SINCERE activist.

I think I made my point rather clear. Dont become apathetic. Organize a movement or become part of one that suits your goals. Individually, you cant do much but when a crowd gets together for a common cause shit changes. Essentially, what you said without deliberately trying to be divisive and with as little insults as possible.

My other point, since you didnt seem to read or understand it was that things are becoming more and more transparent everyday. Not only that but we have the benefit of the internet to communicate, organize, and share information that previous generations never enjoyed. It will have tremendous effects on the way we govern and participate in government. Politicians will find it tougher and tougher to pull the wool over our eyes and the populace can easily obtain the information they need to make better decisions.

[Swish]

17 year old kids sign up to the British Army and get shot at for about $50/day. Stop whining OP.

[Rawradin]

I just want to be Smith's padawan on red. .

[Rawradin]

Swish's .. stupid auto correct.

[khanable]

Dole fruit cups are delicious.

[Pokesan]

hmm yes baby killers vs poors quite interesting comparison OP