Ultimate Fungi Roll Scam?

[baakss]

Just watched Arrowed LD after Kaedian hit a fungi roll... lol.

Guy rolls a 666 on his second of three rolls, Arrowed LD's on the second roll.

I guess this time around he didn't have time to make all the money before someone won, so he bailed?

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[Bazia]

Casino dudes are always scammers

[Vilkata]

Didn't he LD the last time someone won also?

[Strifer]

What a turd

[Kegir]

Hope you petitioned.

9. You may not defraud other players.

Fraud is defined as falsely representing one's intentions to make a gain at another's expense.

[GnashingOfTeeth]

I /ignore these assholes.
If you roll there, expect to lose money, and you SHOULD NOT be able to petition this.
This is a waste of CSR time, and Sirken has made it clear.
You are just asking for it.

[baakss]

I /ignore these assholes.
If you roll there, expect to lose money, and you SHOULD NOT be able to petition this.
This is a waste of CSR time, and Sirken has made it clear.
You are just asking for it.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84383

Seems contrary to what you're saying: They agree it's time consuming, and they warn you not to do it, but they also say they will come down on people who scam.

Anyway, if casino scamming is a big issue, then the real fix is to ban casinos.

[GnashingOfTeeth]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84383

Seems contrary to what you're saying: They agree it's time consuming, and they warn you not to do it, but they also say they will come down on people who scam.

Anyway, if casino scamming is a big issue, then the real fix is to ban casinos.

Keep on playin... no love. When the scam, salty tears. Of course if they catch them they will smack em, but do you think the CSR's who DO NOT GET paid want to deal with this ? No.
I say you lose your money, boooo fucking hoooo.

[Lopretni]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84383

Seems contrary to what you're saying: They agree it's time consuming, and they warn you not to do it, but they also say they will come down on people who scam.

Anyway, if casino scamming is a big issue, then the real fix is to ban casinos.

The real fix is for people like you to stop being so goddamn retarded so GMs can focus on shit that actually matters.

[Rais]

Sometimes it's easy to catch scammers and other times it's much harder. Casinos are much easier, since those accounts can just be banned yet they can just make another new account and start over.

In the end don't expect the staff to hold your hand in everything. It's your risk. I am saying this as a former staff member who hated scammers, yet also hated people who were so dumb they liked to be scammed it seems.

[Tiggles]

Casino dudes are always scammers

[baakss]

The real fix is for people like you to stop being so goddamn retarded so GMs can focus on shit that actually matters.

I didn't actually participate, I just saw it happen, dipshit.

[Tankdan]

I wish more people got scammed so the casino spam would end.

You make EC annoying for everybody else.

[Aviann]

We need a coalition of gangsters to commit against the deflowering of these individuals who choose to operate in our blue territory..http://choixmagazinedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/cle_mafia.jpg

[proaero]

I dont think he was actually intending on scamming when he started doing it, I, Being Kaedian just got stupid lucky on my 2nd roll, he couldnt take it.

[DeruIsLove]

Casino is classic. People getting ripped off as often as they do on P99... not so much.

[Glenzig]

If people just quit playing them they would go away.

[Psionide]

There needs to be a Norrathian Gaming Commission.

[Glenzig]

There needs to be a Norrathian Gaming Commission.

They would just go around killing the people that win.

[Lopretni]

I didn't actually participate, I just saw it happen, dipshit.

You're still crying for GMs to intervene on their behalf, you're just as bad.

[baakss]

You're still crying for GMs to intervene on their behalf, you're just as bad.

And you're protecting them because you're scum. You may even be involved in RMT for all I know.

I'm suggesting that it's a double standard to hold someone accountable for other scams and not this one.

[a_gnoll_pup]

They should track down this guy's main character, take his fungi from him and give it to the winner of the fungi as poetic justice. Make it happen GM team.

[Telemakus]

The real fix is for people like you to stop being so goddamn retarded so GMs can focus on shit that actually matters.

Lopretni nerd ragin' hardcore. inb4 lopretni=Arrowed

[Vyal]

We used to run casinos on Sol Ro but after enough people got scammed GM's put an end to it well before all the server merges.
Jus saying it was a thing during classic era but GM's woulda stepped in before some guy could run the same scam twice.

[Aviann]

They should track down this guy's main character, take his fungi from him and give it to the winner of the fungi as poetic justice. Make it happen GM team.

[iruinedyourday]

We need a coalition of gangsters to commit against the deflowering of these individuals who choose to operate in our blue territory..

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25736152/EQ/yeold.JPG

[proaero]

You're still crying for GMs to intervene on their behalf, you're just as bad.

So people saying Casino's are bad which is really, what, chance, risk? well what is it when you try to fight something you think might be harder then you can take but you try it anyway, RISK.

what are casino's based off of, RNG? what is eq fighting based off of... RNG

The Reality of games generally is, Money = time spent and loot = money which is just time spent, as you can farm something to make money and it just takes time to get an amount of money.

In Everquest you fight mobs and you risk dying to a mob for money/loot. You fight them with weapons and code revolving around those weapons, and you're skills and level that produce a range of random numbers proportional to those variables.

And with casino games you risk losing money which = time to get more money or loot = time, using random number generators (RNG)

both of which are viable ways of how people have fun playing eq.

If i cant risk something using RNG to have fun at a casino on a sunday afternoon, then no one can have fun fighting in the planes or some dangerous place that is high risk to get some more loot or money (SUCH AS but not limited to a fungi tunic) then I guess no one can do anything in eq really... Maybe if scammers were punished server wide where everyone can see the consequence of that behavior then noone would do it because they would not want their accounts, then maybe they would'nt have to make entire threads, rules and regulations, wasting time making threads, replying to people making complains about scammers, and most of all many other people would'nt have to feel grief for being scammed which i think is the most important thing.


Who does not agree and why?

[quido]

ban all casinos imo

[DeruIsLove]

They should track down this guy's main character, take his fungi from him and give it to the winner of the fungi as poetic justice. Make it happen GM team.

[Glenzig]

So people saying Casino's are bad which is really, what, chance, risk? well what is it when you try to fight something you think might be harder then you can take but you try it anyway, RISK.

what are casino's based off of, RNG? what is eq fighting based off of... RNG

The Reality of games generally is, Money = time spent and loot = money which is just time spent, as you can farm something to make money and it just takes time to get an amount of money.

In Everquest you fight mobs and you risk dying to a mob for money/loot. You fight them with weapons and code revolving around those weapons, and you're skills and level that produce a range of random numbers proportional to those variables.

And with casino games you risk losing money which = time to get more money or loot = time, using random number generators (RNG)

both of which are viable ways of how people have fun playing eq.

If i cant risk something using RNG to have fun at a casino on a sunday afternoon, then no one can have fun fighting in the planes or some dangerous place that is high risk to get some more loot or money (SUCH AS but not limited to a fungi tunic) then I guess no one can do anything in eq really... Maybe if scammers were punished server wide where everyone can see the consequence of that behavior then noone would do it because they would not want their accounts, then maybe they would'nt have to make entire threads, rules and regulations, wasting time making threads, replying to people making complains about scammers, and most of all many other people would'nt have to feel grief for being scammed which i think is the most important thing.


Who does not agree and why?

I'm pretty sure people would petition if they won a fight and suddenly died afterward and also never got any loot of any kind. Not really a valid analogy at all. But since you made it, I'm pretty sure that if people took the risk in a fight against a mob and won, and that mob was supposed to be guaranteed to drop a 80-100k item, and they were locked out from looting it, that the petition forum would be on fire.

[Nips]

I dont think he was actually intending on scamming when he started doing it, I, Being Kaedian just got stupid lucky on my 2nd roll, he couldnt take it.

I don't think he did either he was just too stupid to realize that the odds were against him (despite 100,000 ppl telling him they were). I think that makes his actions far worse.

[Olscratch]

ban all casinos imo

Ban TMO imo. Nobody ever decided not to play here because of the handful of casinos.

More TMO rmt bans than casino rmt bans. No p99 casino has ever been banned from raiding either.

[DeruIsLove]

Odds against him? What was the buy in?

[Nips]

Odds against him? What was the buy in?

1/500 odds to win, 300pp to bet, to win 165k in items. 15k against him
Was 1.5/500 at one point when he included 3 numbers.

He got lucky for awhile and was up like 200k at one point... but obviously that profit can disappear fast :p

[JRW928]

If you play at a casino you're taking a chance at losing the game itself and you're taking a chance with the player running the casino. Both are a gamble that a player is accepting when they do it. In this case the player won the game, but lost against the casino itself. Is it right? No. But that's the risk you take when you get involved in this type of activity. I win all the time by not playing at a casino. The GM's might be expected to intervene here, but I think players doing stupid things deserve what they get. It's not like this kind of stuff hasn't happened before.

[Pokesan]

fine don't ban casinos(you really should though).

ban casino advertising in zone-wide chat channels instead

[pufen]

They should track down this guy's main character, take his fungi from him and give it to the winner of the fungi as poetic justice. Make it happen GM team.

.



dudes a piece of shit for /q'ing. GMs should name and shame his main too.

[pufen]

Ban TMO imo. Nobody ever decided not to play here because of the handful of casinos.

More TMO rmt bans than casino rmt bans. No p99 casino has ever been banned from raiding either.

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[TrendyDru]

http://cdn.styleforum.net/f/fa/900x900px-LL-faaf0394_you-mad-bro.jpeg

you still owe me a fungi.

[DeruIsLove]

1/500 odds to win, 300pp to bet, to win 165k in items. 15k against him
Was 1.5/500 at one point when he included 3 numbers.

He got lucky for awhile and was up like 200k at one point... but obviously that profit can disappear fast :p

Oh wow, I'd expect 1k buy in, or at minimum 500pp.

[indiscriminate_hater]

They should track down this guy's main character, take his fungi from him and give it to the winner of the fungi as poetic justice. Make it happen GM team.

that would just be regular justice, but whatever

[Kekephee]

"He probably doesn't even have a fungi" I said to myself like three months ago when this guy popped up

[pufen]

you still owe me a fungi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8

That wasn't my fault bro. It was just bad luck!

[pufen]

did OP submit a petition? Any word on it yet? Curious as if GMs are actually doing anything about these scammers? I saw that one post where they did.


either way, BAN casinos and no problems.

[pufen]

NAME AND SHAME Arrow's main though.

[phacemeltar]

ban casino advertising in zone-wide chat channels instead

plz

[Detoxx]

ban casino advertising in zone-wide chat channels instead

Do you want to police that? Hard enough to get a hold of GMs as it is!

[zanderklocke]

ban casino advertising in zone-wide chat channels instead

Personally don't care about casinos, but can we get people to stop posting WTB/WTS threads in OOC in EC?

[DarkwingDuck]

Bottom line, if it isn't petitionable, it should not be allowed, like dual boxing.
It should be either enforced like ANY OTHER SCAM, or be a bannable offence.

Even tho I hate the casinos, they are annoying, and the people /ran in tunnel all day is annoying and they are idiots for doing it, isn't really the point. Personally I say ban the casino dude and every account he's ever played from. That should teach that fucking piece of shit scum bag a little life lesson .

[DarkwingDuck]

"He probably doesn't even have a fungi" I said to myself like three months ago when this guy popped up

He wears the gear In the tunnel, including a CoF

[Skywarp]

You sure about that Detox? Unbrella's ability to get in touch with them was pretty amazing if I recall.

[Cecily]

either way, BAN casinos and no problems.

When casinos are outlawed, only outlaws will run casinos. What P99 needed was an outlaw casino and Cecily was just the outlaw the outlawed outlaw casino needed.

[Skywarp]

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[capco]

I was in EC when this happened. Can confirm it was Arrowed who /q'ed after the 666 was rolled.

[Temig]

I just commended this guy a couple of days ago when someone hit the Fungi+CoF roll and he paid up. Then he started his new rules with the ability to roll for the Fungi (125p), the CoF (175p), or both (300p) and I had a chat with him asking him how he was doing with the Casino operation since he was laying odds that were so against him (valuing the Fungi at 62500 and CoF at 87500) and mentioned that I would have expected something much closer to 200p for a Fungi roll, 300p for CoF, and 450 for a combined roll to entice more action there which would value the Fungi at 100k, CoF at 150k, and the combined would still value at 225k. He replied saying it was thrilling to run but it certainly was stressful and said he'd probably be taking a bit of a break from doing it and coming back with something like I suggested. I guess he should have just taken that break...

Honestly, I don't see the issue with Casinos as long as the players running them aren't scamming. I actually loved that Arrowd was doing something more than the standard double/triple your plat and was giving something much more exciting that would be more akin to hitting big on a lottery ticket as opposed to winning a few extra bucks on a scratch ticket. That being said, unless you've got some seriously deep pockets and can afford the potential hit of your first customer coming up and winning right away, you shouldn't even consider running such an operation. Likewise, unless you're willing to take a financial hit and want to do it just because you think it's fun, you should probably know how to calculate basic odds and price in a bit of a house edge...

[Portasaurus]

As an avid TunnelQuester who frequents the casinos and truly enjoys what they provide... if Arrowed is who I think he might be, this whole thing upsets me greatly.

If not, it upsets me a lot, but not as much as it could.

Some of these casinos are actually the same person using different accounts, which in itself is pretty suspect. Known reputable T2 casino operators (Reince, Dungeonmaster, Tookie and Alcoholic come to mind) are in a good position (literally) to keep a watchful eye on the other casinos and speak up if they think there is a connection between Arrowed's casino and the others. Speech patterns, games offered, macros, movement habits, etc...

If you suspect some shady behavior and connection between Arrowed's casino and another casino, speak up!

[Tiggles]

Casino's should be banned in EC and only allowed in HHK/HHP at the actual casinos

[Portasaurus]

Man.

I totally know who Arrowed is.

Which sucks, because he's an awesome and totally fun guy. (no pun intended, lol)

Arrowed, I don't like to strong-arm people, especially people who have been very nice to me, but please pay the man his prize. I wasn't there to see it happen, but lots of people are substantiating the claim that this person actually won the fungi and you /q'd

Unless there is more to the story than I know, you've made a lot doing your thing here, and you can afford this hit. Also, I like you and don't want to lose you.

You still have a chance to come online and be like "Oh my! It WAS a storm and power has been out for days! I'm so sorry! Here is the stuff you won."

[indiscriminate_hater]

If you suspect some shady behavior and connection between Arrowed's casino and another casino, speak up!

Lol. Incoming baseless accusations and ruined reputations

[Portasaurus]

Lol. Incoming baseless accusations and ruined reputations

Please disregard my knee-jerk 9/11 "see something, say something" reaction.

I actually have base-full evidence and aside from playful trolling, I don't want the other reputable casino operators to have their names unfairly tarnished.

[Atalya]

As an avid TunnelQuester who frequents the casinos and truly enjoys what they provide... if Arrowed is who I think he might be, this whole thing upsets me greatly.

If not, it upsets me a lot, but not as much as it could.

Some of these casinos are actually the same person using different accounts, which in itself is pretty suspect. Known reputable T2 casino operators (Reince, Dungeonmaster, Tookie and Alcoholic come to mind) are in a good position (literally) to keep a watchful eye on the other casinos and speak up if they think there is a connection between Arrowed's casino and the others. Speech patterns, games offered, macros, movement habits, etc...

If you suspect some shady behavior and connection between Arrowed's casino and another casino, speak up!

Alchoholic IS Arrowed

[iruinedyourday]

I don't want the other reputable casino operators to have their names unfairly tarnished.

Casino's should be banned in EC and only allowed in HHK/HHP at the actual casinos

Lets have Dial set up a reputable casino system guild tag in the HHK casino area and then lets all

get

fucking

immmmmmeeerrrrrssssedddddddddd

http://drool.popey.com/droooool.png

[Tasslehofp99]

Alchoholic IS Arrowed

I also thought this to be the case.

[TrendyDru]

Lol. Incoming baseless accusations and ruined reputations

9/11 was an inside job. watergate was hired hands.

pope benedict was a jew.

[pufen]

Man.

I totally know who Arrowed is.

Which sucks, because he's an awesome and totally fun guy. (no pun intended, lol)

Arrowed, I don't like to strong-arm people, especially people who have been very nice to me, but please pay the man his prize. I wasn't there to see it happen, but lots of people are substantiating the claim that this person actually won the fungi and you /q'd

Unless there is more to the story than I know, you've made a lot doing your thing here, and you can afford this hit. Also, I like you and don't want to lose you.

You still have a chance to come online and be like "Oh my! It WAS a storm and power has been out for days! I'm so sorry! Here is the stuff you won."



Name and shame this piece of shit if you know who he is.

[pufen]

Alchoholic IS Arrowed

what guild is alcoholic in? class?

[zanderklocke]

Someone needs to step up their game in tunnelquest to shut down casinos. Why have casinos when we could have subprime loans of fungi tunics to new players? We can group these loans into some pretty sweet derivatives and sell them to high-level players with monthly annuity payouts.

Why play casinos when you can start your EQ retirement savings account with much more optimized risk? I nominate Portasaurus to work out the fine print.

[iruinedyourday]

Someone needs to step up their game in tunnelquest to shut down casinos. Why have casinos when we could have subprime loans of fungi tunics to new players? We can group these loans into some pretty sweet derivatives and sell them to high-level players with monthly annuity payouts.

Why play casinos when you can start your EQ retirement savings account with much more optimized risk? I nominate Portasaurus to work out the fine print.

My p99 EQ credit score has plummeted...

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[Velerin]

Rent to own fungis! No money down and low interest rates! New players need to find a high level cosigner though.

[GnashingOfTeeth]

This jug o' poo cant hide forever. In the mean time, gamble on folks! Salty tears for all!

[Champion_Standing]

Alchoholic IS Arrowed

I don't care if he scammed anyone, ban this fuck for having an immersion breaking name.

[proaero]

I'm pretty sure people would petition if they won a fight and suddenly died afterward and also never got any loot of any kind. Not really a valid analogy at all. But since you made it, I'm pretty sure that if people took the risk in a fight against a mob and won, and that mob was supposed to be guaranteed to drop a 80-100k item, and they were locked out from looting it, that the petition forum would be on fire.

Whats you're point then? I cant have fun using rng the way I want to? If I cant then u cant do anything else u want in eq cause with no explanation, logic, reason, rationality. Im not fighting this cause because I like casino's. Players should be able to play how they want because it excites them to do so while still being with integrity. Dont we like eq classic because it was creative, FREE ROAM and e citing in ways most people these days cant comprehend. If I caant do somethind like play a casino game and win something even though the odds were incredibly horrible AND come out on top. Thus having an awsome story to tell. ( and a nice prize). If the guy would have just taken his losses and gave it. The story would go down in p99 history. And everyone would only trusted arrowed more and he probably would have gained more business. Im not completely sure what the point of a game is if it wasnt for having fun. It just seems like its not a game SOMETIMES when the people enforcing the rules create more grief than they generate good times.

[Traxan]

They should track down this guy's main character, take his fungi from him and give it to the winner of the fungi as poetic justice. Make it happen GM team.

This

[Glenzig]

Whats you're point then? I cant have fun using rng the way I want to? If I cant then u cant do anything else u want in eq cause with no explanation, logic, reason, rationality. Im not fighting this cause because I like casino's. Players should be able to play how they want because it excites them to do so while still being with integrity. Dont we like eq classic because it was creative, FREE ROAM and e citing in ways most people these days cant comprehend. If I caant do somethind like play a casino game and win something even though the odds were incredibly horrible AND come out on top. Thus having an awsome story to tell. ( and a nice prize). If the guy would have just taken his losses and gave it. The story would go down in p99 history. And everyone would only trusted arrowed more and he probably would have gained more business. Im not completely sure what the point of a game is if it wasnt for having fun. It just seems like its not a game SOMETIMES when the people enforcing the rules create more grief than they generate good times.

That's the problem though. He didn't give the item that was won fair and square according to the rules that he set. That's why there are people lighting the boards up. Your rng analogy can only go so far. This is something completely player driven, therefore there will need to be moderation from the GM's from time to time. I agree that people should be allowed to run casinos and play them if they want, but both sides have to understand the risks and the consequences.

[Portasaurus]

consequences.

Arrowed, you have until 12:00AM Eastern time to give this guy his winnings.

-Meangrocer

[indiscriminate_hater]

That's the problem though. He didn't give the item that was won fair and square according to the rules that he set. That's why there are people lighting the boards up. Your rng analogy can only go so far. This is something completely player driven, therefore there will need to be moderation from the GM's from time to time. I agree that people should be allowed to run casinos and play them if they want, but both sides have to understand the risks and the consequences.

Candyland players. Anyone giving their money to someone without receiving something in the trade window understands the risks, and that includes the risk of being scammed.

[emperorsalty]

The real fix is for people like you to stop being so goddamn retarded so GMs can focus on shit that actually matters.

[Lictor]

Candyland players. Anyone giving their money to someone without receiving something in the trade window understands the risks, and that includes the risk of being scammed.

Yet people have gotten their money or items back from dropping item and logging on alt or asking someone to trade to an alt. Yes, it is shitty but if those problems were fixed in the past I do not see a difference here.

[Portasaurus]

Arrowed is Alcoholic is Pantywaist is Dungeonmaster...

...and this all upsets me greatly

RIP Dungeonmaster

DM I still love you and the super kickass DnD game.

The tunnel will be less immersive without you.

http://i.imgur.com/TsPFK.jpg

[a_gnoll_pup]

I don't care if he scammed anyone, ban this fuck for having an immersion breaking name.

Alcohol is classic bro

[Vyal]

So anyone can make an account claim to have an item they don't and run this scam on the whole server?

[a_gnoll_pup]

So anyone can make an account claim to have an item they don't and run this scam on the whole server?

Yes. But they will only be punished if they do, in fact, scam someone out of an item through deception.

Punishment is separate from reimbursement. You can steal an item from someone, get banned and the item removed, and now that item is gone forever.

[Psionide]

I'm just wondering here but what's the reasoning behind not giving the player his items back? Is it a sort of tough love learn your lesson kind of deal?

[pufen]

Arrowed is Alcoholic is Pantywaist is Dungeonmaster...


http://www.neowin.net/forum/uploads/post-58815-1142994557.jpg

[pufen]

What guild is this shitbag in?

[Atalya]

No guild tag that i ever saw but i mean he HAS to have a non shit level EC character that he gained his original fungi and cof on.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Pretty easy to farm without a guild

[Portasaurus]

I don't know who his main is, but I think he actually made most of his money by running the casinos. I feel pretty terrible naming his other casinos because he really was super nice and entertaining and there was a mutual trust with xfers and stuff.

Also, his DnD game. That was awesome and fun and creative. Someone needs to pick that up where he left it off.

This could have been an awesome story for a [seemingly] legit p99 noob, not to mention great promotion for Arrowed's casino. Now, it's just a mess and everybody sucks.

If you're out there, Arrowed, let's start over. I like you. Give me a sign.

And remember... "Winners don't use buffs."

[Brocode]

Actually if you block casino by adding a level requirement and non anon and banning any other newbie, people would take it serious, meanwhile you will just be scanned.

[Brocode]

scammed*

[nectarprime]

Do you think anyone would gamble at a casino if there was no statement as to what the prize was?


Just thinking of ideas.....

[Derubael]

A scam is a scam. It doesn't really matter what the scam was or how it was pulled off. Standard procedure is to ban the scammer, then review the items that were taken and see if they're still present/what happened to them. Sometimes we can recover items and give them back - other times we can't.

What if, for example, Arrowed doesn't have a Fungi Tunic? I'm not going to create one just because someone lost a dice roll! Casino at your own risk, just like everything else on Project 1999 - it's not our responsibility to babysit your trades! We have lots of other things to do without adding something easily avoidable to the petition queue.

Trust no one! Never share account info! Don't hand money/items over for nothing! These are really simple, easy to follow tenants that will save both the CSR staff and the players a ton of trouble. While scamming will always be against the Fraud section of our server rules, I'm going to repeat myself for the 500th time: There is no guarantee you will get your items back. If you get scammed, just assume your items are gone forever, that way you'll be pleasantly surprised if they get reimbursed.

Lastly, I'd love to see casino's banned for a number of reasons, some of which I'm not going to share. Obviously the scamming is a big issue, as is the spam, but really that's just a small part of why these need to be removed. At our next GM meeting it's on our "talking points" list. Some of you might be surprised to find out this is actually a big priority for me and something I've been casually pushing for months now. It wasn't until recently when it started getting really bad that it became clear we'd need to sit down and have a discussion about it.

tl;dr: be more careful/use common sense, casino ban hopefully incoming.

[georgie]

bluebie days of our lives

[Portasaurus]

casino ban hopefully incoming.

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/freak-out-noooooooooooooo-nooooo-nooooo.png

[Olscratch]

1 guy got scammed so you want to see all casinos banned?

"Lastly, I'd love to see casino's banned for a number of reasons, some of which I'm not going to share. "

Firstly I've been casino'ing on P99 longer than you've even been around, with 0 complaints and hundreds of happy gamblers. I sell cheap items that people wager and lose, and Trade Federation + myself have given away tens of thousands of plat in rolloff giveaways + provided trustworthy escrow/transfer services.

Secondly should I judge all GMs based on Amelinda's behavior?

-Reince

[Derubael]

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I feel like meat doesn't qualify.

We may also switch to some form of accreditation for casino operators. This would resolve my concerns, although I'm sure it would bring out the theorists en masse, but we'll see what happens. There are options beyond "just ban all casinos" but that is certainly the simplest solution.

[Derubael]

1 guy got scammed so you want to see all casinos banned?

"Lastly, I'd love to see casino's banned for a number of reasons, some of which I'm not going to share. "

Firstly I've been casino'ing on P99 longer than you've even been around, with 0 complaints and hundreds of happy gamblers. I sell cheap items that people wager and lose, and Trade Federation + myself have given away tens of thousands of plat in rolloff giveaways + provided trustworthy escrow/transfer services.

Secondly should I judge all GMs based on Amelinda's behavior?

-Reince

Hi, wanting to ban casino's has nothing to do with this scam. If you'd read my post,

Some of you might be surprised to find out this is actually a big priority for me and something I've been casually pushing for months now

you would have seen that this has been a thing for much longer than this thread has been up. You can feel free to compare GM's based off whatever you'd like, but if you're just trying to draw a parallel to what I just posted it's clear you didn't read/understand it, or chose not to.

[Wildino]

Casino's are classic. I hate them, but they are more classic than Rogean.

Maybe an official approved guild of casino's, or a guild like Dial a port could handle trusty Dealer's...

Just random ideas

[Olscratch]

The only two reasons you listed were spam and scamming.

Scamming appears to be extraordinarily rare and...spam in EC tunnel? I don't use shout and i broadcast my odds no more often than anyone else spams their non-classic item links.

Help me understand. Is EC spam really a big priority for you?

Obviously the scamming is a big issue, as is the spam, but really that's just a small part of why these need to be removed.

Ok so whats the big part of why you've been pushing hard for months to ban casinos?

[Olscratch]

Derubael point on the doll where the casino touched you.

[Portasaurus]

Maybe an official approved guild of casino's

I was considering opening up the <Nomsanto Industries> tag to long-time reputable casino operators if they would like to join. The rule would be: Spend X time establishing a rep. When the council approves it, you're in. You fuck up once, you're out. You fuck up badly enough, and it sounds like there may even be *possible* CSR consequences.

Better yet, Reince should start a guild specifically for this and only allow operators in good standing. I believe Tookie did this a while back with the <Norrathian Gaming Commission> and it seemed to work pretty well.

Sure, others could try to run casinos on anon lvl 1 nakeds, but then *nobody* is going to feel bad for you when you lose your money.

[Derubael]

Ok so whats the big part of why you've been pushing hard for months to ban casinos?

I'd love to see casino's banned for a number of reasons, some of which I'm not going to share

For some people, the spam/scamming is enough. For the CSR staff, myself included, that alone isn't enough to justify banning casinos. It's important for the server and something I've made a priority. That answer will have to do, because I'm not revealing any more than that.

[Bazia]

Pretty fucking obvious that casinos/giveaways are a terrific RMT cover

Oh he won this item from me in a roll!

[Portasaurus]

Pretty fucking obvious that casinos/giveaways are a terrific RMT cover

Oh he won this item from me in a roll!

Reince... if it turns out that you are Platlord............

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[Olscratch]

Whistle clean breh.

For some people, the spam/scamming is enough. For the CSR staff, myself included, that alone isn't enough to justify banning casinos. It's important for the server and something I've made a priority. That answer will have to do, because I'm not revealing any more than that.

Guess since I'm just a filthy casino I don't really deserve a reasonable explanation for your crusade against the way I play the game/removing a classic feature.

[Tiggles]

Whistle clean breh.



Guess since I'm just a filthy casino I don't really deserve a reasonable explanation for your crusade against the way I play the game/removing a classic feature.

Fuck you

[Portasaurus]

@Keke and @Filbus, get in here you guys.

I think there are things happening here, and we need your dot-connecting abilities.

[proaero]

Arrowed, you have until 12:00AM Eastern time to give this guy his winnings.

-Meangrocer
I will not be on until today about 5:45. Pm august 5. So if anyone can let arrowed know that. If he wishes to give it. Yes I am kaedian

[Kekephee]

@Keke and @Filbus, get in here you guys.

I think there are things happening here, and we need your dot-connecting abilities.


I was about to type a response to the poster above you, and then you made this post, so now it's going to look like I have some pathetic "someone mentioned me on the internet" radar and am responding instantly. But I'd much rather respond to you w/r/t Filbus is moving across the country right now, but I'm going to text him and let him know that when he gets back we're gonna have to write an EQ noir RP saga where he gets pulled under the surface of the seedy world of semi-legal tunnel gambling

[proaero]

I dont want anyone banned over this. If my opinion doesnt hurt to be heard. Arrowed didnt intentionally scam. It was just such a suprise to him im sure that I won so quick

[Portasaurus]

Whistle clean breh.

Guess since I'm just a filthy casino I don't really deserve a reasonable explanation for your crusade against the way I play the game/removing a classic feature.

Fuck you

Sir Tiggles, why do you hate Reince? Why do you hate fun? Why do say such hurtful things on the internet?

[DeruIsLove]

Derubael point on the doll where the casino touched you.

Lol

[jarshale]

I dont want anyone banned over this. If my opinion doesnt hurt to be heard. Arrowed didnt intentionally scam. It was just such a suprise to him im sure that I won so quick

Sounds like a beaten wife

[pufen]

I dont want anyone banned over this. If my opinion doesnt hurt to be heard. Arrowed didnt intentionally scam. It was just such a suprise to him im sure that I won so quick


fuck this guy; ban the scammer!

[Clark]

If people just quit playing them they would go away.

[Clark]

And you're protecting them because you're scum. You may even be involved in RMT for all I know.

I'm suggesting that it's a double standard to hold someone accountable for other scams and not this one.

[Clark]

Arrowed, you have until 12:00AM Eastern time to give this guy his winnings.

-Meangrocer

[Clark]

Lastly, I'd love to see casino's banned for a number of reasons, some of which I'm not going to share. Obviously the scamming is a big issue, as is the spam, but really that's just a small part of why these need to be removed. At our next GM meeting it's on our "talking points" list. Some of you might be surprised to find out this is actually a big priority for me and something I've been casually pushing for months now. It wasn't until recently when it started getting really bad that it became clear we'd need to sit down and have a discussion about it.

tl;dr: be more careful/use common sense, casino ban hopefully incoming.

Excellent news.

[DeruIsLove]

Clark point on the doll where the casino touched you.