TMO writes more checks

[Antarctica]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159065

[Detoxx]

lawl

[quido]

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[pufen]

Xygoz down gais.

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

lol

[doyoueventrainbro]

Integrity of this server just took the biggest shit ever.

Grats derebul for proving what everyone already knows is the case.

[Derubael]

TMO's evidence will be presented and reviewed between players and staff before a final (likely player chosen) decision is reached. There couldn't be more transparency here. Tinfoil over something else.

[rippit]

unprecedented. i fail to remember a time when this has happened in p99 history. An hour before VP dragons spawn this post lifting suspension was made. It couldn't be more obvious derubael.

[quido]

Derubael RMTed my poofed Dragon Hero Bracer.

[Detoxx]

There are 4 more days left on TMO's suspension. If tomorrow Xygoz spawns and IB kills it, followed by TMO being re-suspended, they will be unsuspended on the 2nd of August and the next Xygoz that spawns after their suspension is over will not be killable by TMO.


Do you mean TMO there? seems like a typo, might wanna fix it.

Thanks Deru

[Alarti0001]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159065

We just ante'd up and outbid IB by 5$

[Herp]

TMO's evidence will be presented and reviewed between players and staff before a final (likely player chosen) decision is reached. There couldn't be more transparency here. Tinfoil over something else.

Ban TMO
Unban TMO
Ban IB instead

such transparency, tell us more how this server isn't corrupt as fuck.

[Hitpoint]

I can't wait for the RNF thread when the whole server realizes IB trained themselves and tried to get 6 free VP dragons out of it. See you when the GMs have a chance to look closer. I sure hope IB doesn't get disbanded because of this.

[Detoxx]

unprecedented. i fail to remember a time when this has happened in p99 history. An hour before VP dragons spawn this post lifting suspension was made. It couldn't be more obvious derubael.

Actually, pretty sure the same thing happened when Amelinda reversed a decision which lead to IB ninja looting and Mass RMTing off the server

Might wanna keep an eye out on IB now for them RMTs

[Frieza_Prexus]

Integrity of this server just took the biggest shit ever.

Grats derebul for proving what everyone already knows is the case.

Maybe, just maybe, if people like you stopped acting so melodramatically the staff might take you more seriously. Keep acting the pariah and we'll keep ending up in the same spot: with your concerns marginalized and you flailing impotently against your keyboard.

It's getting old watching you cloak yourself in indignation over the most trivial things.

[rippit]

I can't wait for the RNF thread when the whole server realizes IB trained themselves and tried to get 6 free VP dragons out of it. See you when the GMs have a chance to look closer. I sure hope IB doesn't get disbanded because of this.

I think what most players want is just GMs to review evidence before making decisions. Especially decisions to unban a guild from VP one hour before dragons spawn. Unfortunately this wasn't done in this case.

[Derubael]

There are 4 more days left on TMO's suspension. If tomorrow Xygoz spawns and IB kills it, followed by TMO being re-suspended, they will be unsuspended on the 2nd of August and the next Xygoz that spawns after their suspension is over will not be killable by TMO.


Do you mean TMO there? seems like a typo, might wanna fix it.

Thanks Deru

No, I meant IB. This stipulation is specifically in place so that TMO can't shirk their suspension and make attempts at mob they would have otherwise not been able to access had their suspension not been put on hold. Basically, if you guys end up being wrong, you're going to miss out on more mobs than you would have had you not petitioned.

[Tiggles]

Lawl.

[Detoxx]

I think what most players want is just GMs to review evidence before making decisions. Especially decisions to unban a guild from VP one hour before dragons spawn. Unfortunately this wasn't done in this case.

We had no idea that this initial suspension was coming, so we had no chance to defend ourselves. What goes around comes around!

[Detoxx]

No, I meant IB. This stipulation is specifically in place so that TMO can't shirk their suspension and make attempts at mob they would have otherwise not been able to access had their suspension not been put on hold. Basically, if you guys end up being wrong, you're going to miss out on more mobs than you would have had you not petitioned.

Got it, more clear now. Thanks

[rippit]

Maybe, just maybe, if people like you stopped acting so melodramatically the staff might take you more seriously. Keep acting the pariah and we'll keep ending up in the same spot: with your concerns marginalized and you flailing impotently against your keyboard.

It's getting old watching you cloak yourself in indignation over the most trivial things.

Never blame the staff if they rule on your side. Blame others and still pretend your arguments carry weight and relevance. You do know no one takes you seriously anymore right?

[Incanus]

Yup, and it was just a "coincidence" that half of TMO was logged out at VP during a suspension.

How long before Durubael just starts handing the pixels out to TMO directly?

[Frieza_Prexus]

I think what most players want is just GMs to review evidence before making decisions. Especially decisions to unban a guild from VP one hour before dragons spawn. Unfortunately this wasn't done in this case.

There was also no time to present a defense before the punishment was meted out. Thus, the stay against execution.

If situations like these bother you, then I suggest you help us make the case for a more open and efficient procedure for such things. (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1553246&postcount=399)

[Antarctica]

I can't wait for the RNF thread when the whole server realizes IB trained themselves and tried to get 6 free VP dragons out of it. See you when the GMs have a chance to look closer. I sure hope IB doesn't get disbanded because of this.

I find it interesting that the most corrupt guild on the server (remember 120 accounts being suspended/banned?) has so much support from the staff and has the utmost temerity to white knight.

Xasten has been asking TMO from within to give dragons away to lesser guilds for years before the current raid scene, but the vast majority of TMO couldn't handle giving away a Gore every once in a while. And now that we have dragons divvied up amongst C and R guilds, the avarice is far worse because, now, you are afforded the luxury of hiding behind gm-invoked rules that de facto glorify your greed.

But, really, TMO is dead. The Mystical Entry is about, and these guys have somehow mesmerized the staff. How I don't know, but maybe all of you are of the same ilk, eh?

[Detoxx]

Yup, and it was just a "coincidence" that half of TMO was logged out at VP during a suspension.

How long before Durubael just starts handing the pixels out to TMO directly?

Some serious tinfoil hatting there lol

[Incanus]

Right, camping out your guild at VP while said guild was suspended from VP is "tinfoil hatting."

[rippit]

I love how deru doesn't address that he didn't in fact review any evidence in this case before ruling in TMO's favor...1 hour before VP dragons start popping. Because how can you refute that?

[Lazie]

Ban TMO
Unban TMO
Ban IB instead

such transparency, tell us more how this server isn't corrupt as fuck.

It was IB's train the whole time. The hard evidence that was presented proves it without a doubt. IB after training themselves tried to speculate with no proof that we dropped extra mobs in their train that was headed to zone in already. It was never true. Hokushin the raid leader for IB made a bad call that brought that aggro to zone in and trained us and IB. Then when it got there had no clue the aggro was on his raid because of his call. He told his raid to invis and move up past the dragons thinking HIS pull aggro was on us and not him.


TL;DR Hokushin pulled a dragon through other mobs and had people from IB on secondary who couldn't clear aggro and then blamed us for the train to zone in.

[Wildino]

http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/55/77/66/20140702/ob_17c710_michael-jordan-lol.gif

[Detoxx]

I find it interesting that the most corrupt guild on the server (remember 120 accounts being suspended/banned?) has so much support from the staff and has the utmost temerity to white knight.

Xasten has been asking TMO from within to give dragons away to lesser guilds for years before the current raid scene, but the vast majority of TMO couldn't handle giving away a Gore every once in a while. And now that we have dragons divvied up amongst C and R guilds, the avarice is far worse because, now, you are afforded the luxury of hiding behind gm-invoked rules that de facto glorify your greed.

But, really, TMO is dead. The Mystical Entry is about, and these guys have somehow mesmerized the staff. How I don't know, but maybe all of you are of the same ilk, eh?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71477&highlight=endangered+species

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70630&highlight=endangered+species

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70253&highlight=endangered+species

What were u saying again?

[Detoxx]

Right, camping out your guild at VP while said guild was suspended from VP is "tinfoil hatting."

Clearly u werent there cause if we were camped there and ready to go, we wouldnt of had to wait almost 15 mins for pullers to get there (and still smoke u guys, who should be camped there).

L2EQ bro

[Hitpoint]

IB falsified evidence to get TMO suspended and got caught. Now I'm butthurt as fuck.

[Tiggles]

Looks like IB catching a one week ban.

[Raavak]

Bush. Towers.

[Nestea]

Post confirms anon IB forum warriors jimmies rustled getting so close to VP pixels only to be denied in the home stretch. TMO looking at the 3rd week in a row for crowns, ty PD!

[Antarctica]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71477&highlight=endangered+species

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70630&highlight=endangered+species

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70253&highlight=endangered+species

What were u saying again?

Xasten will verify, Detoxx. After all, I read your forums. Bye bye now.

[pufen]

This just in, IB not getting free handouts.

[Derubael]

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding here - no ruling has been made. The petition is back up for dispute, and will be reviewed by IB leadership as well as TMO leadership. Basically, we are back to the drawing board because TMO insists they can prove beyond a doubt they didn't train anyone.

But I guess we should just stop reviewing or allowing GM decisions to be petitioned if they have the acronym TMO in them.

And again, yes - the suspension was repealed before any dragons spawned on purpose because if TMO ends up having a valid case, they shouldn't be barred from attacking targets that spawn. If TMO ends up being full of shit, they're losing more by complaining.

And that's the last response I'll make on the subject, because if anyone's still crying foul at this point they are just trolling.

Edit: As a side note, TMO had a number of characters camped in VP because... they were suspended from VP. Most players were afraid to log in to move their toons that were already camped out in the zone - I know this because we've been getting petitions for characters to be moved out of VP all week. This isn't exactly news or surprising.

[Shinko]

# TMO CHEATS

[Antarctica]

Oh no, Hitpoint. Haha. I'm one of yours. But I still don't like you.

[rippit]

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding here - no ruling has been made. The petition is back up for dispute, and will be reviewed by IB leadership as well as TMO leadership. Basically, we are back to the drawing board because TMO insists they can prove beyond a doubt they didn't train anyone.

But I guess we should just stop reviewing or allowing GM decisions to be petitioned if they have the acronym TMO in them.

And again, yes - the suspension was repealed before any dragons spawned on purpose because if TMO ends up having a valid case, they shouldn't be barred from attacking targets that spawn. If TMO ends up being full of shit, they're losing more by complaining.

And that's the last response I'll make on the subject, because if anyone's still crying foul at this point they are just trolling.

Yeah, ok...gotcha...i belie...v...

Hey deru, while your here, why was Tiggles unsuspended after only like 20 hours when he spends the majority of his day, everyday, putting other players down on these boards, trolling guilds and hurting people? Why is he allowed to harm the community, its players and provide nothing constructive while other people are perma banned daily? Just curious.

[Detoxx]

Xasten has been asking TMO from within to give dragons away to lesser guilds for years before the current raid scene

but the vast majority of TMO couldn't handle giving away a Gore every once in a while.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71477&highlight=endangered+species

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70630&highlight=endangered+species

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70253&highlight=endangered+species

What were u saying again?

Pretty sure I just verified it for him and proved u wrong in the second quote. Did you even click the links?

Xasten will verify, Detoxx. After all, I read your forums. Bye bye now.

What does that even mean?

[Antarctica]

[QUOTE=Derubael;1553652]And again, yes - the suspension was repealed before any dragons spawned on purpose because if TMO ends up having a valid case, QUOTE]

Xygoz has been in window for a while, bro. Try again.

[Antarctica]

And again, yes - the suspension was repealed before any dragons spawned on purpose because if TMO ends up having a valid case, they shouldn't be barred from attacking targets that spawn..

Oops. Again, Xygoz was in window for a good while, so this doesn't fly.

[Detoxx]

Oh no, Hitpoint. Haha. I'm one of yours. But I still don't like you.

Haha what a bitch if this is true. lol

[rippit]

You can stop Ant, its completely obvious Deru's on his heels on this one and is spinning hard for TMO.

[Frogie305]

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Jimmies-Maximum-Over-Rustled-Meme-Gif.gif

[Antarctica]

Pretty sure I just verified it for him and proved u wrong in the second quote. Did you even click the links?



What does that even mean?

Plain English. Your forums, you know, the TMO ones.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Hey deru, while your here, why was Tiggles unsuspended after only like 20 hours when he spends the majority of his day, everyday, putting other players down on these boards, trolling guilds and hurting people? Why is he allowed to harm the community, its players and provide nothing constructive while other people are perma banned daily? Just curious.

If you're concern about rampant trolling, I suggest you throw your support behind the campaign to link forum accounts to game accounts (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1499386&postcount=3).

[Detoxx]

Plain English. Your forums, you know, the TMO ones.

Ahh ok so you're in TMO, claim to hate some raid leaders and members, milk loot while hiding under the guise of actually liking TMO?

You, sir, are a pussy

[Antarctica]

Ahh ok so you're in TMO, claim to hate some raid leaders and members, milk loot while hiding under the guise of actually liking TMO?

You, sir, are a pussy

At least I know when shit stinks. You still think it smells like roses.

[pufen]

Yup, and it was just a "coincidence" that half of TMO was logged out at VP during a suspension.

How long before Durubael just starts handing the pixels out to TMO directly?

12 of us had toons logged at VP. The rest trickled in over the next 10 minutes while we had uncontested access to Xygoz.

Nice try uninformed shitbag.

[doyoueventrainbro]

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding here - no ruling has been made. The petition is back up for dispute, and will be reviewed by IB leadership as well as TMO leadership. Basically, we are back to the drawing board because TMO insists they can prove beyond a doubt they didn't train anyone.

But I guess we should just stop reviewing or allowing GM decisions to be petitioned if they have the acronym TMO in them.

And again, yes - the suspension was repealed before any dragons spawned on purpose because if TMO ends up having a valid case, they shouldn't be barred from attacking targets that spawn. If TMO ends up being full of shit, they're losing more by complaining.

And that's the last response I'll make on the subject, because if anyone's still crying foul at this point they are just trolling.

Edit: As a side note, TMO had a number of characters camped in VP because... they were suspended from VP. Most players were afraid to log in to move their toons that were already camped out in the zone - I know this because we've been getting petitions for characters to be moved out of VP all week. This isn't exactly news or surprising.

Laughed.

[rippit]

If you're concern about rampant trolling, I suggest you throw your support behind the campaign to link forum accounts to game accounts (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1499386&postcount=3).

Me? I've made my opinion clear already. Since you've been guilded with this guy for years, you obviously are friends. Why should I listen to anything you have to say? You have no sway you've been blind for a long time Xast.

[pufen]

Right, camping out your guild at VP while said guild was suspended from VP is "tinfoil hatting."

You're kinda a fucking idiot. 85% of the guild has toons camped out at VP indefinitely. The rest that have toons camped out there are just because they missed the run out or were too lazy to run out.


Try harder anonymous IB account or BDA troll. You're bad, jelly, and wet.

[Frogie305]

All YOU anon forum posters, smells like IB.... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DGGcdZ4KYbA/T5FeDLPuJJI/AAAAAAAACKo/2ofTef2oC0w/s640/good-good-let-the-jimmies-rustle-through-you.png

[pufen]

Looks like IB catching a one week ban.

[rippit]

Sirken:

The Mystical Order is under raid suspension from Veeshan's Peak until 12:01 AM Eastern on August 1st, for the following violations of the following raid policy:
Quote:

Intentional training will be severely disciplined.
Guilds are encouraged to work out disputes among themselves before involving the staff.


TMO unsuspended.

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding here - no ruling has been made.


ITT: GM spinning.

[pufen]

Edit: As a side note, TMO had a number of characters camped in VP because... they were suspended from VP. Most players were afraid to log in to move their toons that were already camped out in the zone - I know this because we've been getting petitions for characters to be moved out of VP all week. This isn't exactly news or surprising.

[Pringles]

http://i.imgur.com/lAF5yNT.jpg

[pufen]

IB members leaving IB and RMTing inc.

[Frieza_Prexus]

You have no sway you've been blind for a long time Xast.
I'm always hearing this passive aggressive "I thought you were the voice of reason." or "no one takes you seriously anymore." Yet, I keep hearing that year after year as if it had only just happened...I must be doing something right (or wrong?)

[rippit]

I'm always hearing this passive aggressive "I thought you were the voice of reason." or "no one takes you seriously anymore." Yet, I keep hearing that year after year as if it had only just happened...I must be doing something right (or wrong?)

Enough about you, lets talk more about your friendship/close bond with Tiggles as you've slain dragons in TMO over the years.

[pufen]

TMO is currently offering a 50% off loot rights for the next 5 VP dragon spawns to IB members.

[Argh]

Why does anyone not in IB or TMO care about VP suspensions?

[Detoxx]

Why does anyone not in IB or TMO care about VP suspensions?

Why did you even post here if you didn't care?

[Nineran]

Just wanted to give a quick thank you for the clarifications! Appreciate the transparency!

[Incanus]

12 of us had toons logged at VP. The rest trickled in over the next 10 minutes while we had uncontested access to Xygoz.

Nice try uninformed shitbag.

So TMO makes dozens of posts across R&F about how they're going to "go hard" outside VP and bring all of their VP characters, yet a good % of your guild decides to leave characters in VP for the hell of it? I'm not an idiot, I know this makes zero sense.

Also, the "we were afraid to log our characters into VP" argument doesn't fly either. I was actually talking to a friend of mine in TMO earlier today about how that would be handled, and he told me that TMO was given a go-ahead to move their characters out of VP. Which makes total sense, the suspension was never meant to be a prison to random people who hadn't moved out of VP yet.

So, this is a lie, and the thing about no dragons being spawned in VP was a lie as well. For those keeping count:

the suspension was repealed before any dragons spawned

Lie.

Most players were afraid to log in to move their toons that were already camped out in the zone

Lie.

[pufen]

Why did you even post here if you didn't care?

dat grudge doe

[Frieza_Prexus]

Enough about you, lets talk more about your friendship/close bond with Tiggles as you've slain dragons in TMO over the years.

We're very close. Especially after this: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1454716&postcount=60

[Hitpoint]

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding here - no ruling has been made. The petition is back up for dispute, and will be reviewed by IB leadership as well as TMO leadership. Basically, we are back to the drawing board because TMO insists they can prove beyond a doubt they didn't train anyone.

But I guess we should just stop reviewing or allowing GM decisions to be petitioned if they have the acronym TMO in them.

And again, yes - the suspension was repealed before any dragons spawned on purpose because if TMO ends up having a valid case, they shouldn't be barred from attacking targets that spawn. If TMO ends up being full of shit, they're losing more by complaining.


I think you're going to be surprised Derubael. Rarely is evidence this blatant and obvious.

[Detoxx]

So TMO makes dozens of posts across R&F about how they're going to "go hard" outside VP and bring all of their VP characters, yet a good % of your guild decides to leave characters in VP for the hell of it? I'm not an idiot, I know this makes zero sense./QUOTE]

I have a perma parked warrior in VP that I use, and my main is not in VP - clueless

[QUOTE=Derubael;1553652]Edit: As a side note, TMO had a number of characters camped in VP because... they were suspended from VP. Most players were afraid to log in to move their toons that were already camped out in the zone - I know this because we've been getting petitions for characters to be moved out of VP all week. This isn't exactly news or surprising.

Are you dense?

[pufen]

So TMO makes dozens of posts across R&F about how they're going to "go hard" outside VP and bring all of their VP characters, yet a good % of your guild decides to leave characters in VP for the hell of it? I'm not an idiot, I know this makes zero sense.



Prove it?

You realize most people in the guild have 3-4 60's and leaving a toon in VP is nothing right? I know it's hard for BDA to get 46+ for fear clears while other guilds are clearing it, but this is not the case for us.

[quido]

We all know what happens when TMO gets bullshit suspensions reversed.

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/bonvoyage.jpg

[Hitpoint]

Are you dense?

Seems like you misquoted?

[pufen]

Seems like you misquoted?

I think he misquoted.


Derubael is doing God's work. A true patriot if I ever did see one.

[Incanus]

You realize most people in the guild have 3-4 60's and leaving a toon in VP is nothing right?

There's like, 8 class C or FFA mobs outside of VP going into window. If TMO really wanted to "go hard" outside of VP, they wouldn't have useless characters logged inside of a zone that they're not allowed to raid in. Especially when it's super trivial to just move them somewhere useful and then move them back after tomorrow for next week.

So essentially you're admitting that TMO members are lazy and/or bad, or something else. There's no alternative option.

[Susano]

There's like, 8 class C or FFA mobs outside of VP going into window. If TMO really wanted to "go hard" outside of VP, they wouldn't have useless characters logged inside of a zone that they're not allowed to raid in. Especially when it's super trivial to just move them somewhere useful and then move them back after tomorrow for next week.

So essentially you're admitting that TMO members are lazy and/or bad, or something else. There's no alternative option.

Considering the evidence we have that the suspension was unjust, many of us had characters in the vicinity of VP due to expecting the suspension being repealed.

Seems like it all worked out better than expected.

[Incanus]

Getting warmer.

[pufen]

There's like, 8 class C or FFA mobs outside of VP going into window. If TMO really wanted to "go hard" outside of VP, they wouldn't have useless characters logged inside of a zone that they're not allowed to raid in. Especially when it's super trivial to just move them somewhere useful and then move them back after tomorrow for next week.

So essentially you're admitting that TMO members are lazy and/or bad, or something else. There's no alternative option.

You keep saying this....Not sure where it comes from.

I was lazy and left my VP toon in VP, because I have 2 others to raid with.

Is this hard to understand?


I logged in, took 15 minutes for us to get a raid force there. This is people OT hammering and running. Not our fault that IB is bad. Clearly you are Chest incognito. I ran some tests and you seem to be just as retarded as he. Science proves this.

[pufen]

There was between less than 15 of us in VP for the first ten minutes of batphone, which was a while after suspension lift.

[pufen]

Honestly, it seems like the thread is veering way off topic here.

We really should be congratulating TMO alts on their new loot here guys.

[LostCause]

grats 20th alt

only 2 more years till velious awww yeaa

[Frieza_Prexus]

So essentially you're admitting that TMO members are lazy and/or bad, or something else. There's no alternative option.

I have my enchanter parked at Trak, my wizard for KC / world spawns, and my rogue in VP. This almost never changes. We had approximately 18 people still camped inside. When you consider that we routinely pull 55+ for VP at all hours, no, this is not unreasonable. The batphone went out at 9:19 CST to move characters back to VP. The Xygoz up BP went out at 9:21 CST. The spoiler holds the number of players in the zone 5 minutes after the "get to VP" batphone went out.

[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] Players on EverQuest:
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] ---------------------------
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Lestet <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Snackums <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Paradime PERMA VP CHAR
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Marksman <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Lazie <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Mxpx <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [60 Grave Lord] Thrump (Troll) <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Luchino <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Shinko <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [60 Hierophant] Melx (Wood Elf) <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Impact PERMA VP CHAR
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Hitpoint <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Babyblue <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Mazam PERMA VP CHAR
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Aalpha GATE POTION
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Ramblin <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Slydexx <The Mystical Order>
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Muiriol PERMA VP CHAR
[Mon Jul 28 21:24:16 2014] There are 18 players in Veeshan's Peak.

Also, many of us (myself included) were present at the incident that prompted the suspension. I saw what happened with my own eyes, and I was confident enough that we were justified that I never bothered to move the character out for exactly that reason. Many others did so as well. Some simply left it out of laziness, others out of faith, and some simply because they have 4+ raid capable characters.

[Incanus]

You keep saying this....Not sure where it comes from.

All good tho, we can just focus on the FFA targets more! Sorry class R, you're friendly IB fucked you!

now they have our undivided attention and we don't have our mains stuck in VP!

First two pages. Got sick of sifting through Alarti's bullshit to refresh you on comments made in a thread that you were active in.

[Frieza_Prexus]

As an addendum: Xygoz was engaged by the raid at 9:33 CST. Nearly 15 minutes after the initial batphone. Anyone with an OT hammer and Jboots can make that run in that time. 15 minutes is an eternity for single dragon VP engages.

[pufen]

First two pages. Got sick of sifting through Alarti's bullshit to refresh you on comments made in a thread that you were active in.

i.e. we moved our 2nd/3rd/4nd alts to all the other spawns for that loot that IB mains want.

[Detoxx]

Seems like you misquoted?

No I guess it could be taken that way tho haha. I was pointing out that deru confirmed we were trying to get out of VP via petitions. Dont ban me deru!

[JayN]

https://warosu.org/data/jp/img/0106/38/1363782483846.jpg

[pufen]

Incanus confirmed mad and probably RMTing IB friend's gear currently. PSA: all IB should change their login info.

[Incanus]

As an addendum: Xygoz was engaged by the raid at 9:33 CST. Nearly 15 minutes after the initial batphone. Anyone with an OT hammer and Jboots can make that run in that time. 15 minutes is an eternity for single dragon VP engages.

You assume that IB batphoned as soon as Durubael made his post. It's silly to expect guilds to watch the forums at all times for a decision that would cause a race for a mob.

Not only do we need trackers at raid mobs, now we need to start having trackers for the forums.

[Antarctica]

As an addendum: Xygoz was engaged by the raid at 9:33 CST. Nearly 15 minutes after the initial batphone. Anyone with an OT hammer and Jboots can make that run in that time. 15 minutes is an eternity for single dragon VP engages.

To be fair, TMO had the jump on IB because TMO was technically on standby anyway with the expectation of a repeal. So the timing of the repeal benefited TMO. In fact had, IB never read the raid discussion thread, they would have not likely known the suspension was repealed until after Xygoz was dead.

You used to be one of the good guys, Xasten. What happened to you?

[pufen]

You assume that IB batphoned as soon as Durubael made his post. It's silly to expect guilds to watch the forums at all times for a decision that would cause a race for a mob.

Not only do we need trackers at raid mobs, now we need to start having trackers for the forums.

[Mon Jul 28 22:29:35 2014] Xygoz engages Ramblin!


you had plenty of time IB troll

[chickmagnet]

whichever guys you had afk tracking, should prolly can them, upon zoning in mob had already been up, who knows for how long...and still gave us 15 mins to gather

[pufen]

To be fair, TMO had the jump on IB because TMO was technically on standby anyway with the expectation of a repeal. So the timing of the repeal benefited TMO. In fact had, IB never read the raid discussion thread, they would have not likely known the suspension was repealed until after Xygoz was dead.

You used to be one of the good guys, Xasten. What happened to you?

TLDR; IB wasn't ready for TMO to argue their case against a falsified train.

[Derubael]

Also, the "we were afraid to log our characters into VP" argument doesn't fly either. I was actually talking to a friend of mine in TMO earlier today about how that would be handled, and he told me that TMO was given a go-ahead to move their characters out of VP. Which makes total sense, the suspension was never meant to be a prison to random people who hadn't moved out of VP yet.


In the past, a VP suspension has meant no going in or out of VP and no movement within VP after the first inital "get the fuck out" period. I had no reason to believe this was being treated differently, particularly because we have had petitions asking for toons to be moved out of VP because of the suspension.

And yes, there were a large number of players worried about moving their toons out of VP. I moved several myself. This happened during the last big TMO suspension as well.


the suspension was repealed before any dragons spawned
Lie.

I didn't know Xygoz was up, I rarely pay attention to raid spawns. Regardless, everyone knew at about the same time and had an opportunity to mobilize. In retrospect, had I known Xygoz was up, I likely would have done this differently.


Most players were afraid to log in to move their toons that were already camped out in the zone
Lie.


Did you just count the same lie twice? Cheater.

For those keeping count:

There are 3 anonymous forum accounts blatantly breaking their guild's policy on RnF. Or did I miss one? Actually it could only be 2 - Icanus was a little smarter about masking who he was, so for all I know he could be from Red.

I also imagine leadership would be less than thrilled to find out the way you're publicly talking about the server staff - regardless of how they feel about a decision, I don't think they encourage people to come here and talk shit to us about it.

On a completely unrelated note that has nothing to do with the guild above, Lots of <3 to IB's officer core and the way they've been dealing with the server staff lately. We really appreciate you guys a lot, especially when dealing with the CSR staff's busy schedules :D

[Frieza_Prexus]

You assume that IB batphoned as soon as Durubael made his post.

No. I didn't. I made no such assumption. I made no mention of IB's batphone. Don't try to change the subject; I don't appreciate it.

I am specifically addressing your contention that TMO camped out in VP with secret inside information as if this were a plot to harm IB. We got our numbers there in time because we moved quickly. This has nothing to do with IB's mobilization and everything to do with your contention that the GMs gave us secret info to camp out as if they were rigging this for us.

You used to be one of the good guys, Xasten. What happened to you?

What am I doing here that's wrong? Disagreeing with rippt and Icanus' false narrative?

[pufen]

Incanus just PM'd me that he doesn't believe the moon landings happened. Case closed.

Icanus confirmed Un-American as fuck.

[Lune]

Suspend both guilds for contributing to toxic raiding environment

[pufen]

Suspend both guilds for contributing to toxic raiding environment

Taken scum

[Antarctica]

There are 3 anonymous forum accounts blatantly breaking their guild's policy on RnF. Or did I miss one? Actually it could only be 2 - Icanus was a little smarter about masking who he was, so for all I know he could be from Red.



Two. But wrong about Icanus. He's clearly from here.

[JayN]

Taken scum

not sure how TMO is toxic for defending its against IB lies but ya, wait a min this is RNF.... FUCK YOU

[JayN]

except the secret was you failed training tmo and got yourselves

[Alarti0001]

I find it interesting that the most corrupt guild on the server (remember 120 accounts being suspended/banned?) has so much support from the staff and has the utmost temerity to white knight.

Xasten has been asking TMO from within to give dragons away to lesser guilds for years before the current raid scene, but the vast majority of TMO couldn't handle giving away a Gore every once in a while. And now that we have dragons divvied up amongst C and R guilds, the avarice is far worse because, now, you are afforded the luxury of hiding behind gm-invoked rules that de facto glorify your greed.

But, really, TMO is dead. The Mystical Entry is about, and these guys have somehow mesmerized the staff. How I don't know, but maybe all of you are of the same ilk, eh?

You seem confused... those account were suspended from the actions of 2-3 people. However IB individually RMT'd off the server... not to mention when the first big wave of SEQ suspensions happened IB was rendered incapable of raiding with all the new lvl 52?4's?

[JayN]

whats toxic is intentionally lying to the GMs about that underhanded shit

[Antarctica]

not to mention when the first big wave of SEQ suspensions happened IB was rendered incapable of raiding with all the new lvl 52?4's?

That was Toop and company.

[Frieza_Prexus]

history repeats itself...derubeal = amelinda 2.0

TMO suspension secretly lifted (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65891)

You will never be happy. Every one of the us could be shot in the head gangland style, and you'd still complain.

The judgment is not final here; it is merely deferred. Are you in a personal position to comment on the alleged offense?

[bigsykedaddy]

Considering the evidence we have that the suspension was unjust, many of us had characters in the vicinity of VP due to expecting the suspension being repealed.

Seems like it all worked out better than expected.

[pufen]

whats toxic is intentionally lying to the GMs about that underhanded shit

TLDR: IB lies about TMO training IB even though TMO gives fair warning about incoming train (though not TMO fault), IB chooses to ignore warning/doesn't know the necessity of camping aggro in VP/scrub guild. IB learns to play game after TMO suspension/lolfakesuspension but still not sure if they know how to play the game.

[pufen]

Trakonon down, well done IB.


Wait.

[Strifer]

TRAKONAN

[hatelore]

In the past, a VP suspension has meant no going in or out of VP and no movement within VP after the first inital "get the fuck out" period. I had no reason to believe this was being treated differently, particularly because we have had petitions asking for toons to be moved out of VP because of the suspension.

And yes, there were a large number of players worried about moving their toons out of VP. I moved several myself. This happened during the last big TMO suspension as well.



I didn't know Xygoz was up, I rarely pay attention to raid spawns. Regardless, everyone knew at about the same time and had an opportunity to mobilize. In retrospect, had I known Xygoz was up, I likely would have done this differently.




Did you just count the same lie twice? Cheater.



There are 3 anonymous forum accounts blatantly breaking their guild's policy on RnF. Or did I miss one? Actually it could only be 2 - Icanus was a little smarter about masking who he was, so for all I know he could be from Red.

I also imagine leadership would be less than thrilled to find out the way you're publicly talking about the server staff - regardless of how they feel about a decision, I don't think they encourage people to come here and talk shit to us about it.

On a completely unrelated note that has nothing to do with the guild above, Lots of <3 to IB's officer core and the way they've been dealing with the server staff lately. We really appreciate you guys a lot, especially when dealing with the CSR staff's busy schedules :D

Just admit to the community that you are corrupt as fuck, so everyone and there dog can go get a good nights sleep, lol.

[pufen]

trakAnon?

[Detoxx]

donals x2

[pufen]

Grats clerics on 2x donal's




Alts of course

[Alarti0001]

That was Toop and company.

no that was perun and company... :)

[Swifty]

I just want to thank the server staff for a super service, made the transfer last night, suspension lifted when i got out of bed this morning. A+ Service, would use again.

[Rellapse40]

no that was perun and company... :)

no

[phrantique]

I just want to thank the server staff for a super service, made the transfer last night, suspension lifted when i got out of bed this morning. A+ Service, would use again.

And only 3 digits. Would def. use again! <3

[captnamazing]

I can confirm that Babyblue required my help, a BDA warrior, to get his ENC epic. That is all.

[Sirken]

briefly addressed the VP situation in the very beginning of this video - http://youtu.be/la3h1yxlbRw

[Ambrotos]

You sound so cracked out the first 20 seconds lol.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

So TMO makes dozens of posts across R&F about how they're going to "go hard" outside VP and bring all of their VP characters, yet a good % of your guild decides to leave characters in VP for the hell of it? I'm not an idiot, I know this makes zero sense.

Also, the "we were afraid to log our characters into VP" argument doesn't fly either. I was actually talking to a friend of mine in TMO earlier today about how that would be handled, and he told me that TMO was given a go-ahead to move their characters out of VP. Which makes total sense, the suspension was never meant to be a prison to random people who hadn't moved out of VP yet.

So, this is a lie, and the thing about no dragons being spawned in VP was a lie as well. For those keeping count:



Lie.



Lie.

Our casters are bound outside. Our pullers are locketed outside and have gate potions. And lots of people have characters that seldom leave vp due to the nature of zoning in and out of that bitch.

[Shinko]

i don't move Shinko out of VP

[HeallunRumblebelly]

There's like, 8 class C or FFA mobs outside of VP going into window. If TMO really wanted to "go hard" outside of VP, they wouldn't have useless characters logged inside of a zone that they're not allowed to raid in. Especially when it's super trivial to just move them somewhere useful and then move them back after tomorrow for next week.

So essentially you're admitting that TMO members are lazy and/or bad, or something else. There's no alternative option.

I have 7 or 8? Level 60s I can log in anywhere at any time to raid. They're all pre parked buffed w/consumables. Going hard isn't overly difficult.

[G13]

unprecedented. i fail to remember a time when this has happened in p99 history. An hour before VP dragons spawn this post lifting suspension was made. It couldn't be more obvious derubael.

Sir you obviously haven't played on this server very long

[Ella`Ella]

Well, Heallun's awake.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Well, Heallun's awake.

I've been "awake" since like 7am because of these batphones. Went down to the social security office and got my obama bucks. Didn't miss any batphones during the interim, gods be praised.

[Gaffin 7.0]

i dont get why 90 % of the people anti tmo and from ib are in tmo now

shits laughable

[Susvain2]

i dont get why 90 % of the people anti tmo and from ib are in tmo now

shits laughable

love and hate tattooed across the knuckles of his hands

[Tiggles]

Yeah, ok...gotcha...i belie...v...

Hey deru, while your here, why was Tiggles unsuspended after only like 20 hours when he spends the majority of his day, everyday, putting other players down on these boards, trolling guilds and hurting people? Why is he allowed to harm the community, its players and provide nothing constructive while other people are perma banned daily? Just curious.

Short answer, I'm Funny

Long Answer, I'm not a rage filled try hard spaz and I people who have half a brain immediately realize I just troll for laughs and I play a part of the super elite TMO monster that madbads imagine us as.

I also respect the staff and the server immensely so they return the favor when we interact.

Also, I'm fucking Derubael.

[Alarti0001]

Also, I'm fucking Derubael.

I KNEW IT

[Ella`Ella]

I've been "awake" since like 7am because of these batphones. Went down to the social security office and got my obama bucks. Didn't miss any batphones during the interim, gods be praised.

It's people like you that make me pay 35%+ in taxes and $2500/mo to
live in a shoebox...

[Glenzig]

This thread is great. Servers obsession with TMO is reaching critical levels. 10/10. 5 stars. 2 thumbs up.

[Mezzmur]

It's people like you that make me pay 35%+ in taxes and $2500/mo to
live in a shoebox...

Thank the Gods you don't live in Canada. Imagine the taxes Snackies has to pay for Canadian Healluns.

[Sirken]

You sound so cracked out the first 20 seconds lol.

i havent slept yet, so, its possible

[Dragonsblood1987]

It's people like you that make me pay 35%+ in taxes and $2500/mo to
live in a shoebox...

did you ever think that maybe youre too white?

[pufen]

I can confirm that Babyblue required my help, a BDA warrior, to get his ENC epic. That is all.

Filbus is a saint among BDA scum.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

did you ever think that maybe youre too white?

http://i.imgur.com/m4Y88.png

[MaksimMazor]

Cold as ice

[Herp]

This thread is great. Servers obsession with TMO is reaching critical levels. 10/10. 5 stars. 2 thumbs up.

I'd say it's more to do with GMs than TMO.

[Skywarp]

The number of FE that are now TMO on their roster and how many of them post here in rnf is beyond mind numbing. They now personify what they fought against.

[Lopretni]

I'm glad I decided to start playing just as a new drama bomb was dropped.

[Archalen]

If you're concern about rampant trolling, I suggest you throw your support behind the campaign to link forum accounts to game accounts (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1499386&postcount=3).

Yet the example he gave was concerning somebody whose in game character is well known.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Yet the example he gave was concerning somebody whose in game character is well known.

Part of this push is to tie forum discipline to in game discipline.

[Brynnag]

you rack disciprine

[Glenzig]

I'd say it's more to do with GMs than TMO.

Yeah that's why the first word in the title of the post is TMO. By the way, how do all you people feel now that you used up all your tinfoil for the month on a witch hunt? Feel good?

[Archalen]

Part of this push is to tie forum discipline to in game discipline.

I mean I am all for it; I just don't think it's going to stop Trolliggles from being a sociopath.

[Archalen]

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the intent was an attack on IB anon posters. Could be wrong, but just wouldn't be surprised.

[Dragonsblood1987]

http://i.imgur.com/m4Y88.png

lol

[Nirgon]

There are 3 anonymous forum accounts

Just start outing anonymous accounts in appropriate threads.

Don't you want us to police ourselves? Isn't that the goal?

[Ambrotos]

That sounds pretty stupid. Who gives a fuck about anon accounts if they just do stupid trolling. Posting rl info or non stop staff bashing sure. If a guild decides they don't want stupid fucks posting shit all the time, that's on them and their guild leader/officers to really care and track it down.

3 Anon trolls bashing a guild in rnf, 10+ people from different guild not anon attacking the server and staff about corrupt decisions and favors one side. Calls out said three people in a threatening way. Makes sense.

[Skywarp]

Anon for rnf is like butter with toast. If your trying to win here an make a point to get people on your side while using your in game name, you are clearly a fool. Thinking your being valiant here and trying some neutral high ground actually makes you an asshole and pariah while flaming. Enjoy the soapboxing.

[Rhambuk]

Who gives a fuck about anon accounts.

Seriously.

You guys are BEYOND obsessed at this point. its a game....its a fucking game....its a fucking game...

[quido]

corrupt decisions

l2read ya moran - *poor decision - there's been no credible accusation of corruption

[Mockba1980]

Seriously.

You guys are BEYOND obsessed at this point. its a game....its a fucking game....its a fucking game...

+1

[Duckwalk]

I've been "awake" since like 7am because of these batphones. Went down to the social security office and got my obama bucks. Didn't miss any batphones during the interim, gods be praised.

Who saved you a spot in line, Tiggles or Altari?