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girth
08-26-2010, 12:05 AM
Guess you never read this post.


The key to this whole dispute ISN'T the KITING. Everyone is getting hung up on that, but it's a red herring.

The key is that the Protector of Sky is a TRIGGERED MOB. He isn't up. He spawns based on player actions. Rogean ruled that a triggered mob belongs to the raid that triggered him. The fact that they were kiting him to prevent spawning Sirran before the other azeraks were dead is inconsequential to the ruling.

It's no different than Ixiblat Fer in Kunark. He is triggered by turning in a runed seashell to Naxot in Burning Woods. No one other than a complete asshat would think it valid to pull and kill a spawn of Ixiblat triggered by another raid force. The same thing applies to Protector of Sky.

Repeat after me: The ruling had NOTHING to do with KITING.

I literally laugh a little out loud each time I think about how you STILL don't understand what was actually going on that day.

Maybe I should have made this in the auction forums because I WTS a clue.

Nlaar
08-26-2010, 02:51 AM
Guess you never read this post.

I literally laugh a little out loud each time I think about how you STILL don't understand what was actually going on that day.

Maybe I should have made this in the auction forums because I WTS a clue.


Let's say your driving to the store to buy some food stuffs. You pull into your a free parking spot, park the car and turn it off. Before you open the door, your brilliant brain that is capable of making millions if not billions of connections a second remembers that thread on the forum (of the 11 year old emulated game you like to play) in which someone was confused about the spawn situation of a certain 'monster.' A slight chortle (read: "I literally laugh a little out loud") emits from your mouth. You giggle with delight when the idea enters that magnificent brain of yours, that you could in fact, start your own thread to share that slight chortle with the rest of us! :D

You WTS a clue? Buddy, I also have a clue to sell.

girth
08-26-2010, 03:15 AM
Let's say your driving to the store to buy some food stuffs. You pull into your a free parking spot, park the car and turn it off. Before you open the door, your brilliant brain that is capable of making millions if not billions of connections a second remembers that thread on the forum (of the 11 year old emulated game you like to play) in which someone was confused about the spawn situation of a certain 'monster.' A slight chortle (read: "I literally laugh a little out loud") emits from your mouth. You giggle with delight when the idea enters that magnificent brain of yours, that you could in fact, start your own thread to share that slight chortle with the rest of us! :D

You WTS a clue? Buddy, I also have a clue to sell.

Let's say you aren't a complete fucking idiot. There...we both made up stories. :D

I just love to see him(samuel) talk out of his ass and claim he knows what he's talking about, so I'm giving him the perfect opportunity. For some reason though, he isn't the only person in his guild that thinks they know more about this server's inner-workings or rules than the developers.

I'm guessing they still argue with the devs about mobs being +/-24 hours and not 48. LOL

Phallax
08-26-2010, 03:33 AM
Let's say your driving to the store to buy some food stuffs. You pull into your a free parking spot, park the car and turn it off. Before you open the door, your brilliant brain that is capable of making millions if not billions of connections a second remembers that thread on the forum (of the 11 year old emulated game you like to play) in which someone was confused about the spawn situation of a certain 'monster.' A slight chortle (read: "I literally laugh a little out loud") emits from your mouth. You giggle with delight when the idea enters that magnificent brain of yours, that you could in fact, start your own thread to share that slight chortle with the rest of us! :D

You WTS a clue? Buddy, I also have a clue to sell.

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no credit, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Comfortably
08-26-2010, 04:22 AM
i love nlaar to death, but god damn was that a great usage of Billy Madison.

Gideon
08-26-2010, 07:08 AM
Let's say you aren't a complete fucking idiot. There...we both made up stories. :D

I just love to see him(samuel) talk out of his ass and claim he knows what he's talking about,blahblahlah

And yet, here you are, telling strangers over the internet shit they care nothing about.

Sweet.

Koota
08-26-2010, 07:42 AM
*eats popcorn*

Phallax
08-26-2010, 09:29 AM
i love nlaar to death, but god damn was that a great usage of Billy Madison.

I missed a word on the edit, but I thought it was perfect for that either way. :D

Lazortag
08-26-2010, 09:52 AM
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no credit, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Really? Seriously? I thought he owned him pretty thoroughly. I`m on Nlaar`s side, this thread is pretty lame.

Nlaar
08-26-2010, 10:51 AM
I missed a word on the edit, but I thought it was perfect for that either way. :D

I concur. Although in fairness you should have quoted both of us. :)

guineapig
08-26-2010, 11:20 AM
I would have worded it differently but I agree with Nlaar's sentiment. Starting a new thread to try and correct somebody about something they posted in a thread that hasn't even been touched in a week is kind of weak.

guineapig
08-26-2010, 11:21 AM
I would have worded it differently but I agree with Nlaar's sentiment. Starting a new thread to try and correct somebody about something they posted in a thread that hasn't even been touched in a week... is kind of weak.

Hasbinbad
08-26-2010, 12:11 PM
Let's say your driving to the store to buy some food stuffs. You pull into your a free parking spot, park the car and turn it off. Before you open the door, your brilliant brain that is capable of making millions if not billions of connections a second remembers that thread on the forum (of the 11 year old emulated game you like to play) in which someone was confused about the spawn situation of a certain 'monster.' A slight chortle (read: "I literally laugh a little out loud") emits from your mouth. You giggle with delight when the idea enters that magnificent brain of yours, that you could in fact, start your own thread to share that slight chortle with the rest of us! :D

You WTS a clue? Buddy, I also have a clue to sell.
Beautiful.

girth
08-26-2010, 12:15 PM
I would have worded it differently but I agree with Nlaar's sentiment. Starting a new thread to try and correct somebody about something they posted in a thread that hasn't even been touched in a week is kind of weak.

You didn't read the DA recruitment thread, so I'll forgive you. I made this post because yesterday(not last week) he still seemed to think what we did with Protector was against the rules. Also, I'm done correcting him - I did that last week but he still doesn't get it - I want to see him argue his point more because it's hilarious. I said before the devs told him what was up that somebody would tell him why he was wrong and after that he should apologize for talking out his ass so boldly. The dev told him, yet he still thinks he is right. :p

Hasbinbad
08-26-2010, 12:18 PM
You didn't read the DA recruitment thread, so I'll forgive you. I made this post because yesterday(not last week) he still seemed to think what we did with Protector was against the rules. Also, I'm done correcting him - I did that last week but he still doesn't get it - I want to see him argue his point more because it's hilarious. I said before the devs told him what was up that somebody would tell him why he was wrong and after that he should apologize for talking out his ass so boldly. The dev told him, yet he still thinks he is right. :p
Congratulations Girth, you're right on the internet.

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guineapig
08-26-2010, 12:34 PM
You didn't read the DA recruitment thread, so I'll forgive you. I made this post because yesterday(not last week) he still seemed to think what we did with Protector was against the rules...

In that case I take back my previous statement.

Samuel
08-26-2010, 12:51 PM
I just love to see him(samuel) talk out of his ass and claim he knows what he's talking about, so I'm giving him the perfect opportunity. For some reason though, he isn't the only person in his guild that thinks they know more about this server's inner-workings or rules than the developers.


What are you even talking about? I used the scenario with the Protector to bring up this point in the raid rules thread. At that time there were no rules regarding kiting mobs.

If it is okay to kite a raid mob in sky until your guild is ready, is it okay to kite any other raid mob until your guild is ready?

Is there a certain number of people that need to be present to make this acceptable?

Which was then answered by Rogean on the home page.

Q: What about a raid mob being indefinitely kited or occupied?
A: It is now against server policy to indefinitely kite, or otherwise keep occupied, a raid mob without intention of bringing it to your raid camp. You either bring it to your raid, die, or zone out. Obvious stall-kiting of a raid mob, especially in situations to prevent engagement by another guild, will result in disciplinary actions against the kiter's account, and possibly their raid/guild leadership.

I don't even know who you are or what your obsession is with me apologizing to you. I don't spend half my day in R&F getting into flame wars with people and I won't be doing it now. So would be please go fuck yourself and stop bringing this up.

PhelanKA
08-26-2010, 01:31 PM
*eats popcorn*

That popcorn must be fire seeing how much of it you've been eating lately. Hook a brother up!

Hasbinbad
08-26-2010, 01:51 PM
http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/764/19726/1h/www.thepopcornfactory.com/wcsstore/ThePopcornFactory/images/catalog/31188z.jpg

Valent
08-26-2010, 02:06 PM
Girth,

The only time we have had a kiting issue with IB is when you guys kited Gorgalask on island 4 while engaging Keeper of Souls on island 3.

The above is one of the reasons additional rules were impelented.