GTMO

[Troubled]

http://i.imgur.com/ukXVeoM.jpg (http://imgur.com/ukXVeoM)

"And yes, TMO is in discussion with us to add their alts to our guild to down Class R mobs and yes we have GM's permission to do so."

Derubael locked the interesting thread of the week. Here's a new thread to help ease our pain and suffering.

[Gaffin 7.0]

females and transgender always get the best treatment from GM's :rolleyes:

[Splorf22]

What is the point of the whole R/C system if people can have alts in multiple guilds? I totally saw this coming.

P.S. Derubael, how could you lock that thread just when I had Lazie wriggling in the crushing grip of reason

[Bazia]

What other choice did they have, they got denied a sky slot.

I think we all knew there would be a day when more and more new raid capable guilds would want in the rotations and their wouldn't be room for them all.

[toosweet]

Good for GT not taking shit and taking steps to get into the raid game.

[Troubled]

Good for GT not taking shit and taking steps to get into the raid game.

Their ignorance of it != not taking shit.

[Tasslehofp99]

Good for GT not taking shit and taking steps to get into the raid game.

this.



BDA class R bullies.

[Samoht]

who? lol.

entitled piece of shit.

won't kill anything now.

dolji2.0

[Boilon]

lul @ TMO members joining GT - going to go make guild Auropa now. No affiliation.

[Emsee]

who? lol.

entitled piece of shit.

won't kill anything now.

dolji2.0

Wanting to raid is entitled? Fuck you, bully scum. Keep thinking they won't kill anything while alts far better played/geared than you join them.

[Troubled]

Wanting to raid is entitled? Fuck you, bully scum. Keep thinking they won't kill anything while alts far better played/geared than you join them.

That's the issue. This was explicitly stated as something that wasn't going to be allowed.

[Sckrilla]

Neato, I've had an alt leveling in GT since their start up. Really cool people, sucks that they were given the ring-around due to Dear Leader Chest being a lunatic. Shit finnin start gettin' reeaalllllll!

[Kekephee]

You need weeks to plan a Maestro kill?

[Sckrilla]

lul @ TMO members joining GT - going to go make guild Auropa now. No affiliation.
Really funny because there's at least 2 TMO members and 3 IB members that I know of that have had their alt(s) in Europa for quite sometime now! ;)

[Splorf22]

Really funny because there's at least 2 TMO members and 3 IB members that I know of that have had their alt(s) in Europa for quite sometime now! ;)

I'm sure Europa would love to remove all of those IB/TMO members but Sirken probably won't tell them who they are.

[Emsee]

That's the issue. This was explicitly stated as something that wasn't going to be allowed.

GM's state otherwise.

[Estolcles]

lul @ TMO members joining GT - going to go make guild Auropa now. No affiliation.

I'll make an alt to join Auropa. :P *follows the leader*

[Jarnauga]

what's preventing GT to go at the FFA targets if they want competition so much ?

[Estolcles]

Really funny because there's at least 2 TMO members and 3 IB members that I know of that have had their alt(s) in Europa for quite sometime now! ;)

Name and shame. They're scabs.

[Boilon]

Really funny because there's at least 2 TMO members and 3 IB members that I know of that have had their alt(s) in Europa for quite sometime now! ;)

Yeah and I was the one to voice them to be removed ;), though they never raided with us anyways so doesn't really matter. This was at least over a year ago now, especially not during the R-rotation.

[Daldolma]

so uh why bother with the pretext

just form the tystical morder and invite/remove as necessary depending on whether mob is class R or C

[Emsee]

Yeah and I was the one to voice them to be removed ;), though they never raided with us anyways so doesn't really matter. This was at least over a year ago now, especially not during the R-rotation.

Got news for you sweety. If you removed them all you wouldn't be happy with the members you lost. I play a toon in your guild quite often, although not so much lately.

[Kekephee]

what's preventing GT to go at the FFA targets if they want competition so much ?

My understanding is that they want competition, but they can't field the numbers. Like he talks in the post about how they needed weeks to plan for a maestro raid and only got 16. I guess they couldn't get the people for it in that 16 hours. Which is somehow Chest's fault, I kind of got lost there.


Chest doesn't control the rotation, just in case anyone's wondering.

[Sckrilla]

Yeah and I was the one to voice them to be removed ;), though they never raided with us anyways so doesn't really matter. This was at least over a year ago now, especially not during the R-rotation.
Ha, false. I can 100% assure you "they" are still in guild and have raided with y'all since R-rotations were implemented. Never have any of them asked/wanted loot for aforementioned alt(s) however.

[Kekephee]

I don't get why TMO is so keen on sabotaging the rotation that they would stoop to dropping alts into class R guilds just to piss all over everyone else. Doesn't that seem petty to you guys? And doesn't that seem like it accomplishes nothing for you? What do you care about Class R loot, you're in VP. You still get all these FFA mobs, plus VP loot, what's the point?

[Splorf22]

Sometimes I think this server would be so much better with Firiona Vie rules.

[Boilon]

I don't get why TMO is so keen on sabotaging the rotation that they would stoop to dropping alts into class R guilds just to piss all over everyone else. Doesn't that seem petty to you guys? And doesn't that seem like it accomplishes nothing for you? What do you care about Class R loot, you're in VP. You still get all these FFA mobs, plus VP loot, what's the point?

Because a lot of them just exist to stir shit up when their bored of years of Kunark. Even more so when you have a ton of time on your time. Shit ain't classic, bring back regular timelines.

[Emsee]

I don't get why TMO is so keen on sabotaging the rotation that they would stoop to dropping alts into class R guilds just to piss all over BDA. Doesn't that seem petty to you guys? And doesn't that seem like it accomplishes nothing for you? What do you care about Class R loot, you're in VP. You still get all these FFA mobs, plus VP loot, what's the point?

ftfy

[sanforce]

fake woman. Which is sad and wrong.

totally agree



Oh wrong thread

[Kekephee]

Because a lot of them just exist to stir shit up when their bored of years of Kunark. Even more so when you have a ton of time on your time. Shit ain't classic, bring back regular timelines.

Pretty upsetting to me that I am now having someone openly declare that they're actively pursuing just fucking me and my guild over any chance they get and TMO is going to help them, all because they couldn't field the numbers for a Maestro raid on such short notice...


And where's TMO in this to laugh at them and make fun of them for not being able to kill mobs they were "handed" by the "vending machine"?

[Kekephee]

ftfy

Well I didn't want to make any assumptions

[Sckrilla]

I don't get why TMO is so keen on sabotaging the rotation that they would stoop to dropping alts into class R guilds just to piss all over BDA. Doesn't that seem petty to you guys? And doesn't that seem like it accomplishes nothing for you? What do you care about Class R loot, you're in VP. You still get all these FFA mobs, plus VP loot, what's the point?
I don't think loot has anything to do with it. Neither does it have anything to do with "sabotaging" the class R rotation (well maybe for a select few). Some people just like to play with a different crowd every once in awhile, or in my case, I have a family member who plays super casually in GT so I wanted to level up with him in a new, starter guild. I also have some really close friends in Europa.. and considering the fact I'm on Euro time in Germany, well.... *wink*

I know of not a single TMO/IB person that has an alt in whatever Class-R guild EVER getting a single piece of gear outside of maybe some planes armor. Just isn't what it is about for those that choose to do this.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

totally agree



Oh wrong thread

http://i.imgur.com/tTc9cKQ.gif

[Samoht]

what's preventing GT to go at the FFA targets if they want competition so much ?

their lack of skill? lol

[Jarnauga]

their lack of skill? lol

i mean, if they can't kill fucking maestro in a 16 hours window on their own, maybe they should stick to clearing hate/fear and do phinigel.

All the other guilds went through that path before killing trakanon, i don't see what makes them so special.

[Hitpoint]

I don't get why TMO is so keen on sabotaging the rotation that they would stoop to dropping alts into class R guilds just to piss all over everyone else. Doesn't that seem petty to you guys? And doesn't that seem like it accomplishes nothing for you? What do you care about Class R loot, you're in VP. You still get all these FFA mobs, plus VP loot, what's the point?

We were specifically told not to take any loot, ever. The idea is that class R is imposing new rules to qualify and new guilds need help. And for fun I guess.

[Kekephee]

We were specifically told not to take any loot, ever. The idea is that class R is imposing new rules to qualify and new guilds need help. And for fun I guess.

So guilds that shouldn't be able to down mobs because they don't have the numbers/skill are going to be able to down mobs that should have gone to other guilds who do have the numbers/skill thanks to the help of TMO alts


A fascinating proposal from the guild that has been shrieking about the VENDING MACHINE and WELFARE PIXELS every day for the last 6 months

[Hitpoint]

So guilds that shouldn't be able to down mobs because they don't have the numbers/skill are going to be able to down mobs that should have gone to other guilds who do have the numbers/skill thanks to the help of TMO alts


A fascinating proposal from the guild that has been shrieking about the VENDING MACHINE and WELFARE PIXELS every day for the last 6 months

I don't know or care about any of this. I just know it's not a loot thing.

[zanderklocke]

I think the bigger issue in my opinion in this situation is guilds not feeling welcomed to join in the Class R rotation. Granted, only officers can see the rotation and class R forum. If guilds are not feeling welcomed or there is a communication breakdown of when they will starting being up for mobs, there is a problem.

Honestly, I don't care if class C people are planting alts in class R guilds; I mean they're helping those guilds progress. If members of those guilds don't know someone has a class C character, what difference does it make? They're treated the same as all other class R guild members. Now, if someone was being very obvious about being in Class R and Class C just to gear their class C mains, I would find that to be not so great.

Like I said before, guilds not having adequate information about the rotation/when they are up for mobs, or guilds not feeling welcomed is a bigger issue to me.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

I think the bigger issue in my opinion in this situation is guilds not feeling welcomed to join in the Class R rotation. Granted, only officers can see the rotation and class R forum. If guilds are not feeling welcomed or there is a communication breakdown of when they will starting being up for mobs, there is a problem.

Honestly, I don't care if class C people are planting alts in class R guilds; I mean they're helping those guilds progress. If members of those guilds don't know someone has a class C character, what difference does it make? They're treated the same as all other class R guild members. Now, if someone was being very obvious about being in Class R and Class C just to gear their class C mains, I would find that to be not so great.

Like I said before, guilds not having adequate information about the rotation/when they are up for mobs, or guilds not feeling welcomed is a bigger issue to me.


Joining a class R guild for the loot is full on retarded. PREEEEETTY SURE I can get faster gear in TMO than Dolj :P

[zanderklocke]

Joining a class R guild for the loot is full on retarded. PREEEEETTY SURE I can get faster gear in TMO than Dolj :P

Well...yeah, but it's still more chances at loot....although not a lot more.

[Juevento]

Joining a class R guild for the loot is full on retarded. PREEEEETTY SURE I can get faster gear in TMO than Dolj :P

I never get loot on my TMO alt.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Well...yeah, but it's still more chances at loot....although not a lot more.

Nah, it's more about fucking certain R guilds than it is actually wanting the loot. We get enough in TMO I swears :p

[Kekephee]

Nah, it's more about fucking certain R guilds than it is actually wanting the loot. We get enough in TMO I swears :p

No, but seriously, I know this is RNF and everybody likes to troll, but is this legitimately the deal? Is this really why?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

No, but seriously, I know this is RNF and everybody likes to troll, but is this legitimately the deal? Is this really why?

Don't know of any secret plan, but I imagine it has to do with disliking the R/C/FFA situation as well as disliking chest and any who associate with him :p

[Frieza_Prexus]

We had a brief discussion on this today on the TMO boards.

The short of it is that the guild isn't doing this; the leadership just clarified that we can individually. I, for one, will personally discourage it (read: be ineffective), as Class C players should never mix with Class R players in the raid scene.

That's the whole point of the system we have. That said, I saw the bloat coming on the rotations, but that's Class R's bed to sleep in.

[arsenalpow]

We had a brief discussion on this today on the TMO boards.

The short of it is that the guild isn't doing this; the leadership just clarified that we can individually. I, for one, will personally discourage it (read: be ineffective), as Class C players should never mix with Class R players in the raid scene.

That's the whole point of the system we have. That said, I saw the bloat coming on the rotations, but that's Class R's bed to sleep in.

Yes, god forbid class R try to promote seeing content for the majority of the server only to have class C so upset by the process that they place alts in class R guilds to create havoc.

[Emsee]

Where's that havoc when class C already has class R alts all over the place? You spewing the same bullshit victim rhetoric... Acting on feeling seemingly is what continuously gets you in to trouble, as you seemingly forget about fact.

[TMBLOW]

I think the bigger issue in my opinion in this situation is guilds not feeling welcomed to join in the Class R rotation. Granted, only officers can see the rotation and class R forum. If guilds are not feeling welcomed or there is a communication breakdown of when they will starting being up for mobs, there is a problem.

Honestly, I don't care if class C people are planting alts in class R guilds; I mean they're helping those guilds progress. If members of those guilds don't know someone has a class C character, what difference does it make? They're treated the same as all other class R guild members. Now, if someone was being very obvious about being in Class R and Class C just to gear their class C mains, I would find that to be not so great.

Like I said before, guilds not having adequate information about the rotation/when they are up for mobs, or guilds not feeling welcomed is a bigger issue to me.

You are a bit off here.

First, there is no server mandated right that any guild HAS to enter the Rotation that has been formed.

Every guild that is not in Class C is there for in R and can engage any R mobs they want. The rotation basically just gives guilds that enter protection from the other Allied guilds that they wont muscle the mob from them in the order of our lists etc.

Also...GT was IN the rotation and were in the process of getting all the tools but just were really miffed about not having INSTANT access to everything and well after Lord Bob stole the death star plans after 'playing nice for 1 day' then used them against the rotation...the Allied guilds tightened up security....

So all guilds are welcomed but they also have to abide by the rules the other Allies follow and be patient...their mob opportunities are coming. GT obviously didnt wanna wait and wanted everything handed to them under the timelines they wanted...the first thing they felt miffed about caused them to bail.

oh and BTW anyone is free to use this awesome anon account

TMBLOW
PW: password

Log him in and spew anon random shit .... Enjoy !

[DeruIsLove]

You are a bit off here.

First, there is no server mandated right that any guild HAS to enter the Rotation that has been formed.

Every guild that is not in Class C is there for in R and can engage any R mobs they want. The rotation basically just gives guilds that enter protection from the other Allied guilds that they wont muscle the mob from them in the order of our lists etc.

Also...GT was IN the rotation and were in the process of getting all the tools but just were really miffed about not having INSTANT access to everything and well after Lord Bob stole the death star plans after 'playing nice for 1 day' then used them against the rotation...the Allied guilds tightened up security....

So all guilds are welcomed but they also have to abide by the rules the other Allies follow and be patient...their mob opportunities are coming. GT obviously didnt wanna wait and wanted everything handed to them under the timelines they wanted...the first thing they felt miffed about caused them to bail.

oh and BTW anyone is free to use this awesome anon account

TMBLOW
PW: password

Log him in and spew anon random shit .... Enjoy !

Even the casual side of P99 is let's take the fun out of the game level bullshit. Fuck this place.

[Susvain2]

Harmony and Genocidal Tendencies being ignored when trying to join the sky rotation. GM's keep ignoring these guilds. What can they do?

[arsenalpow]

Harmony and Genocidal Tendencies being ignored when trying to join the sky rotation. GM's keep ignoring these guilds. What can they do?

Class R doesn't control the sky rotation. There's 14 slots for sky, which one would they like that's not currently taken and oh Dolj will waltz up there and fuck your day if they feel like it.

I honestly feel that if the staff opened a 2nd blue server with movelog, a server that from the start would have agreed upon rotation rules for any guild that wanted to participate with governed tiers of difficulty, 80% of the population would move. Only TMO and IB want to sit around for 16 hours a day autofiring for FTE, errrr competing, while the other 8 hours of the day they use to shit on anyone that would try to compete or dare have a different playstyle.

No one gives a fuck that 600-700+ people a day would rather be on a different server and the class C guilds enjoy dragging everyone else down into their shit.

[Hitpoint]

Class R doesn't control the sky rotation. There's 14 slots for sky, which one would they like that's not currently taken and oh Dolj will waltz up there and fuck your day if they feel like it.

I honestly feel that if the staff opened a 2nd blue server with movelog, a server that from the start would have agreed upon rotation rules for any guild that wanted to participate with governed tiers of difficulty, 80% of the population would move. Only TMO and IB want to sit around for 16 hours a day autofiring for FTE, errrr competing, while the other 8 hours of the day they use to shit on anyone that would try to compete or dare have a different playstyle.

No one gives a fuck that 600-700+ people a day would rather be on a different server and the class C guilds enjoy dragging everyone else down into their shit.

So much hyperbole in everything you post. If class C was all autofiring then none of the confirmed legit spammers would ever get FTE, and they do all the time. GMs are actively looking into autofire due to all the accusations. TMO would rather lose FTE on mobs than get FTE with autofire and risk suspension. That's been our stance for a while, vocally. All our trackers know that. And IB isn't autofiring all the time either if we can get FTE from them. There's like 2 or 3 people in particular who we think are suspect, and of course IB has their suspicions also, but even these are probably just paranoia on both sides. This shit is blown way out of proportion.

[Kingore]

I want you to know Chest, as a member of BDA I think you are a huge douchebag. Don't play dumb - everyone in BDA knows the rotation rules are set to benefit Taken and us.

protip: I didn't post this from the wrong account.

[Splorf22]

Every EQ server has a kind of global attitude: some were more carebear (in the modern day, EQMac) and others are cutthroat (P1999). I think from the beginning the staff (especially Sirken and Derubael, but Rogean has always been for competition as well. Nilbog seems to not care as long as the quests work) have encouraged a competitive attitude here, and that attitude percolates down from the top until we have people being dicks in Mistmoore.

I suspect the vast majority of the server would prefer a GM enforced rotation, but perhaps the GMs feel its boring when you own an anthill and the ants don't go crazy in RNF.

[bigsykedaddy]

Sometimes I think this server would be so much better with Firiona Vie rules.

You just want your Bo Staff that you are never gonna get because we just keep making new monks to loot it so you won't get it.

[bigsykedaddy]

Every EQ server has a kind of global attitude: some were more carebear (in the modern day, EQMac) and others are cutthroat (P1999). I think from the beginning the staff (especially Sirken and Derubael, but Rogean has always been for competition as well. Nilbog seems to not care as long as the quests work) have encouraged a competitive attitude here, and that attitude percolates down from the top until we have people being dicks in Mistmoore.

I suspect the vast majority of the server would prefer a GM enforced rotation, but perhaps the GMs feel its boring when you own an anthill and the ants don't go crazy in RNF.

How about you stop being a beta and grow a pair?

[Splorf22]

Hello Anon Troll, is there any particular reason I should be offended by you labeling me with a greek letter?

[Ella`Ella]

Hello Anon Troll, is there any particular reason I should be offended by you labeling me with a greek letter?

That anon troll just put a bo staff that he'll never use in his alpha bank today.

[Splorf22]

Uhoh, more greek letters

[Lazie]

What is the point of the whole R/C system if people can have alts in multiple guilds? I totally saw this coming.

P.S. Derubael, how could you lock that thread just when I had Lazie wriggling in the crushing grip of reason

No reason ever flows from you sir!

[Derubael]

Every EQ server has a kind of global attitude: some were more carebear (in the modern day, EQMac) and others are cutthroat (P1999). I think from the beginning the staff (especially Sirken and Derubael, but Rogean has always been for competition as well. Nilbog seems to not care as long as the quests work) have encouraged a competitive attitude here, and that attitude percolates down from the top until we have people being dicks in Mistmoore.

I suspect the vast majority of the server would prefer a GM enforced rotation, but perhaps the GMs feel its boring when you own an anthill and the ants don't go crazy in RNF.

We don't want to restrict the way people play the game. If everyone agreed a rotation was best, we would do that, but there are lots of different views on what's fun and what's not and we're going to allow for all of that to exist on p99.

I know that I definitely don't enjoy the drama that comes up in RnF. But thanks for implying that we have the raid rules set up like this simply for entertainment rather than to make sure that the hardcores and the casuals both have a place to play. Casuals make up a little over 2/3rds of the raid scene, with hardcores being a little less than a third. We're not going to alienate that other third just to appease 'the majority'.

[Susano]

So guilds that shouldn't be able to down mobs because they don't have the numbers/skill are going to be able to down mobs that should have gone to other guilds who do have the numbers/skill

This pretty much sums up the entire spirit behind Class R. Sorry you seem to be upset it's going to work against you.

Do you think BDA and the other class R guilds just shot up in skill when this new class system was put in place? You get kills because the people who are better than you are held at bay by the server staff.

[Splorf22]

Casuals make up a little over 2/3rds of the raid scene, with hardcores being a little less than a third. We're not going to alienate that other third just to appease 'the majority'.

Did you really just state that the casuals were a textbook majority, then put majority in quotes?

[Daldolma]

How about you stop being a beta and grow a pair?

there is nothing more beta than joining tmo and responding to implicit demands from loser guildmates to be available for elf activities

[Fuddwin]

Poor Chest (Variety)

[Prismaticshop]

Poor class R (Variety)

[zanderklocke]

This pretty much sums up the entire spirit behind Class R. Sorry you seem to be upset it's going to work against you.

Do you think BDA and the other class R guilds just shot up in skill when this new class system was put in place? You get kills because the people who have more time than you are held at bay by the server staff.

[Detoxx]

GT obviously didnt wanna wait and wanted everything handed to them under the timelines they wanted...the first thing they felt miffed about caused them to bail.

The irony is terrific here

[Kazi]

BDA sure has a hard on for GT, huh? The word on the street is BDA moved up GT's Maestro two months to a 2 am est slot and wouldn't elucidate further as to why or how this happened.

The shroud has fallen: BDA is an underachieving guild that rightfully belongs in class C but I suppose they enjoy lording over class R guilds.

[Machida]

BDA sure has a hard on for GT, huh? The word on the street is BDA moved up GT's Maestro two months to a 2 am est slot and wouldn't elucidate further as to why or how this happened.

The shroud has fallen: BDA is an underachieving guild that rightfully belongs in class C but I suppose they enjoy lording over class R guilds.

thats what ive been hearing on my BDA alt. awwww shiiiiet.

[Troubled]

BDA sure has a hard on for GT, huh? The word on the street is BDA moved up GT's Maestro two months to a 2 am est slot and wouldn't elucidate further as to why or how this happened.

The shroud has fallen: BDA is an underachieving guild that rightfully belongs in class C but I suppose they enjoy lording over class R guilds.

GT was informed they were up for a Maestro that they were not up for or ready for and they went off the deep end.

[Estolcles]

GT was informed they were up for a Maestro that they were not up for or ready for and they went off the deep end.

I guess their batphone service isn't up and running yet.

[Susano]

This pretty much sums up the entire spirit behind Class R. Sorry you seem to be upset it's going to work against you.

Do you think BDA and the other class R guilds just shot up in skill when this new class system was put in place? You get kills because the people who have more time than you are held at bay by the server staff.

Yet another rallying cry of the casual. Maybe that helps you guys sleep at night, but the reality of it is that class C guilds simply maximize their online time and accomplish a lot more.

Everyone is different and play times vary across all guilds, but when it comes to logging on and getting pixels, class C spends a lot less time per pixel than others on the server.

[Estolcles]

Everyone is different and play times vary across all guilds, but when it comes to logging on and getting pixels, class C spends a lot less time per pixel than others on the server.

The fact a term like "Time Per Pixel" exists shows how much no life everyone playing this game has.

[Derubael]

Did you really just state that the casuals were a textbook majority, then put majority in quotes?

If this is the only thing you found wrong with my post then I'd say I'm happy.

[Nivar Quartz]

If this is the only thing you found wrong with my post then I'd say I'm happy.

Why are you in RnF? thats what I want to know...

If you wanna argue with the village idiots you should turn that name back to blue.


It's funny when you ( the officers and staff ) began this rotation class system and terms were agreed to by all parties, it was decree'd by Rogean that those rules would be enforced by the staff. If you think that would take away from the time you spend for free helping code or research or go though petitions then I suggest you drop ur RnF time into the rotation enforcement.

[Sckrilla]

^^hory shit super rustled!

[Nivar Quartz]

^^hory shit super rustled!

You can call it what u want, GM's lose credibility arguing right or wrong in RnF and don't belong here, it's a spinsters paradise regardless of topic.

[Strifer]

^^hory shit super rustled!

http://i.imgur.com/DuPavSd.gif

[Derubael]

Why are you in RnF? thats what I want to know...

If you wanna argue with the village idiots you should turn that name back to blue.


It's funny when you ( the officers and staff ) began this rotation class system and terms were agreed to by all parties, it was decree'd by Rogean that those rules would be enforced by the staff. If you think that would take away from the time you spend for free helping code or research or go though petitions then I suggest you drop ur RnF time into the rotation enforcement.

You're implying that you and Loraen are village idiots. Did you even read my post, or just see a green name and start frothing at the mouth?

We have never agreed to enforce a rotation beyond splitting mobs between class R and class C. And I'll post wherever I post in my spare time because I've busted my ass for this server and earned the right to do so.

<3 my mistake, arguing with the village idiots again!

[Susano]

GM's lose credibility

I actually agree with this. I also feel GM's hosting streams and fraternizing with players is also in bad taste. When you give in to vanity and bathe in the attention players will always lavish on staff if given the opportunity, doubts in your conviction will grow.

Perception is reality, when you put yourself on the same level as those you police, don't be surprised when your integrity is questioned.

[Daldolma]

Yet another rallying cry of the casual. Maybe that helps you guys sleep at night, but the reality of it is that class C guilds simply maximize their online time and accomplish a lot more.

Everyone is different and play times vary across all guilds, but when it comes to logging on and getting pixels, class C spends a lot less time per pixel than others on the server.

prob does help them sleep at night bc they're not getting 4am text messages about faydendor

it's not just about the time played, it's also about the availability. you no lifers make yourselves available to elf texts and will log on at a moment's notice to slay dragon 1,932 of the year.

if i ever got a text message about trakoman, i might literally die of shame

[Nocsucow]

You're implying that you and Loraen are village idiots. Did you even read my post, or just see a green name and start frothing at the mouth?

We have never agreed to enforce a rotation beyond splitting mobs between class R and class C. And I'll post wherever I please in my spare time because I've busted my ass for this server and earned the right to do so.

<3 my mistake, arguing with the village idiots again!


/thread

[toosweet]

Class R doesn't control the sky rotation. There's 14 slots for sky, which one would they like that's not currently taken and oh Dolj will waltz up there and fuck your day if they feel like it.

I honestly feel that if the staff opened a 2nd blue server with movelog, a server that from the start would have agreed upon rotation rules for any guild that wanted to participate with governed tiers of difficulty, 80% of the population would move. Only TMO and IB want to sit around for 16 hours a day autofiring for FTE, errrr competing, while the other 8 hours of the day they use to shit on anyone that would try to compete or dare have a different playstyle.

No one gives a fuck that 600-700+ people a day would rather be on a different server and the class C guilds enjoy dragging everyone else down into their shit.

Now the Welfare recipients want someone to buy them a new house?
Typical.

[arsenalpow]

Now the Welfare recipients want someone to buy them a new house?
Typical.

How much does the hardware for an additional server cost? Do we need a new rack? New cabinet? I'm a fucking novice when it comes to anything that's not a home PC computer wise so I don't know what's necessary, but I'm pretty fucking sure that if Rogean listed a dollar figure saying it would cost X to make p99 BlueRotation every casual guild would pony up the funds to make it happen. Hell, the BDA slush fund for just our vent and ad free boards is relatively staggering all things considered.

[Samoht]

i'll bet it doesn't even required a dedicated server to host a 15 year old elf simulator. with today's server hardware, all they need to do is copy the VM, give it a unique name, and then let it rip

no additional power, bandwidth, cpu required

[Tiggles]

How much does the hardware for an additional server cost? Do we need a new rack? New cabinet? I'm a fucking novice when it comes to anything that's not a home PC computer wise so I don't know what's necessary, but I'm pretty fucking sure that if Rogean listed a dollar figure saying it would cost X to make p99 BlueRotation every casual guild would pony up the funds to make it happen. Hell, the BDA slush fund for just our vent and ad free boards is relatively staggering all things considered.


Confirmed RMT.

BDA is used to buying there way with RL funds there is a reason most of the servers RMT buyers where from BDA.

[kawing168]

Cooperation with TMO?:eek:
Good luck, GT:rolleyes:

[sulpher01]

Doesn't this mean class-R guilds should be allowed to help each other without lockouts now as long as they don't take loot? Since that is essentially what is going on here.. (and on that note, if they aren't getting loot... who really cares?)

[Locust]

I want you to know Chest, as a member of BDA I think you are a huge douchebag. Don't play dumb - everyone in BDA knows the rotation rules are set to benefit Taken and us.

protip: I didn't post this from the wrong account.

i wanna know who kingore is in bda!

[Man0warr]

If BDA and Taken wanted to get the most loot from Class R they sure as hell wouldn't be in a rotation.

[feanan]

Yes, why not accept donations for a new server, one that has rules and rotations that people agree to, for people who want to actually experience all the time and effort that has gone in to making this server what it is?

80% of the people in TMO get their jollys in denying other players content. That's just a fact. As you can see, they have no problems telling everyone its not about the loot.
It's about shitting on other people.

The fact that the people who created this server think its a great attitude, and could give two fucks about the 2/3 "casuals" on the server pretty much shows where we are headed.

Too busy wasting time and funds on stupid pvp servers that .5% of the player base want, and which will be empty wastelands when velious drops. But perhaps they'll up the exp to 1000% to get people to play.

I still don't get how proud some of you are that you wake up at 3am to go kill some shit in a 14 year old game. Or how much "skill" you think it takes.

TMO would have been a midtier guild at best on my old server

[Iphice]

Why are you in RnF? thats what I want to know...

If you wanna argue with the village idiots you should turn that name back to blue.


It's funny when you ( the officers and staff ) began this rotation class system and terms were agreed to by all parties, it was decree'd by Rogean that those rules would be enforced by the staff. If you think that would take away from the time you spend for free helping code or research or go though petitions then I suggest you drop ur RnF time into the rotation enforcement.

I think this is pretty unfair considering the p99 GMs are volunteers. It would be a little different if this was their job or they were being paid to do this but they are not. I know we would all like the GMs to dedicate all their free time every week to fixing all our problems on p99 but that is incredibly unrealistic. They have every right to post in whatever forum they want to just like everyone else on this server.

[Splorf22]

If this is the only thing you found wrong with my post then I'd say I'm happy.

I guess that went over your head a bit.

The whole R/C/FFA system was created to limit the ability of Class C to fuck with Class R. However, because you feel that griefing people is some sort of playstyle or emotionally healthy life choice (the mind boggles), you are doing everything you can to blur those boundaries and allow this to continue.

Since this ridiculous position advances to borderline insanity when you consider that the filthy casuals make up a majority of players in the endgame (by the way, I bet that majority is even higher now that the Class R/C system is in place. Fascinating stuff, isn't it) you feel the need to put majority in quotes to emphasize that fact that you don't give a fuck about Class R except as far as they provide targets for Class C.

[Machida]

you should hear BDA in vent sometime. they shit on all guilds everytime im listening in. its sad they pretend to be trying to help class r guild but then shit talk in vent how they are going to snipe indigs mobs bc indig sucks. BDA should just be BAD

[Kekephee]

you should hear BDA in vent sometime. they shit on all guilds everytime im listening in. its sad they pretend to be trying to help class r guild but then shit talk in vent how they are going to snipe indigs mobs bc indig sucks. BDA should just be BAD

In case anyone is dumb enough to believe this, this person clearly has never been in our vent in their life

[JayN]

In case anyone is dumb enough to believe this, this person clearly has never been in our vent in their life

here comes the BDA spin machine, way to deflect the truth dude

[Nlaar]

I guess that went over your head a bit.

The whole R/C/FFA system was created to limit the ability of Class C to fuck with Class R. However, because you feel that griefing people is some sort of playstyle or emotionally healthy life choice (the mind boggles), you are doing everything you can to blur those boundaries and allow this to continue.

Since this ridiculous position advances to borderline insanity when you consider that the filthy casuals make up a majority of players in the endgame (by the way, I bet that majority is even higher now that the Class R/C system is in place. Fascinating stuff, isn't it) you feel the need to put majority in quotes to emphasize that fact that you don't give a fuck about Class R except as far as they provide targets for Class C.

[Bruman]

BDA bombed the towers

[Bruman]

Chest = Osama

[zanderklocke]

I guess that went over your head a bit.

The whole R/C/FFA system was created to limit the ability of Class C to fuck with Class R. However, because you feel that griefing people is some sort of playstyle or emotionally healthy life choice (the mind boggles), you are doing everything you can to blur those boundaries and allow this to continue.

Since this ridiculous position advances to borderline insanity when you consider that the filthy casuals make up a majority of players in the endgame (by the way, I bet that majority is even higher now that the Class R/C system is in place. Fascinating stuff, isn't it) you feel the need to put majority in quotes to emphasize that fact that you don't give a fuck about Class R except as far as they provide targets for Class C.

I think what Loraen meant to say in a more eloquent manner is that he is frustrated that Class C people can have characters in Class R guilds, as he believes this goes against the spirit of the server rules and thinks some individuals might be abusing the class system.

Furthermore, he thinks that end game Class C competition is a mockery of the idea of competition because it involves a dice roll to determine who gets FTE, especially since some individuals might be rigging the dice. He would like Velious to be released so guilds have to actually be skilled at killing difficult mobs as opposed to throwing as many players as possible at them.

Thanks for your input, Loraen.

[Bruman]

One time I had a puppy and I was walking with my puppy then Chest and his gang of finger-snapping thugs known as BDA saw my puppy and they all killed it. Then TMO showed up and brought my puppy back to life, thank baby jesus.

[Bruman]

BDA = 3 letters
RMT = 3 letters

Coincidence? You be the judge.

[MaksimMazor]

One time I had a puppy and I was walking with my puppy then Chest and his gang of finger-snapping thugs known as BDA saw my puppy and they all killed it. Then TMO showed up and brought my puppy back to life, thank baby jesus.

You're welcome

[Uuruk]

yay added my first person to ignore!

[a_gnoll_pup]

BDA = 3 letters
RMT = 3 letters

Coincidence? You be the judge.

HL3 = three characters.

HL3 confirmed.

[Bruman]

Bregan D'Aerth = Her Rat Bag End

Makes you think.

[Bruman]

BDA = Obama Bux Raiding

[Ravager]

Casuals make up a little over 2/3rds of the raid scene, with hardcores being a little less than a third. We're not going to alienate that other third just to appease 'the majority'.

Don't take this criticism personally, but it sure feels like you're alienating the majority to appease the minority. How is that better?

[JayN]

HL3 = three characters.

HL3 confirmed.

i like where this is going!

[Argh]

Don't take this criticism personally, but it sure feels like you're alienating the majority to appease the minority. How is that better?
Freedom.

[Derubael]

I guess that went over your head a bit.

The whole R/C/FFA system was created to limit the ability of Class C to fuck with Class R. However, because you feel that griefing people is some sort of playstyle or emotionally healthy life choice (the mind boggles), you are doing everything you can to blur those boundaries and allow this to continue.

Since this ridiculous position advances to borderline insanity when you consider that the filthy casuals make up a majority of players in the endgame (by the way, I bet that majority is even higher now that the Class R/C system is in place. Fascinating stuff, isn't it) you feel the need to put majority in quotes to emphasize that fact that you don't give a fuck about Class R except as far as they provide targets for Class C.

This is what confuses me. I don't understand where you get this perception that we feel griefing people is ok. You're way over-analyzing the presence of quotations in a statement that was emphasizing our desire to have an enjoyable raid scene for everyone.

Part of the reason we've switched to players policing themselves is to stop the drama and get people to cooperate. It also removes us from the equation and stops people from trying to blame us for problemX.

So where have you been the last 6 months? We've been working hard to try and foster cooperation among these guys and cut down on the hostile and competitive attitudes that are dragging the top end of the server down.

Don't take this criticism personally, but it sure feels like you're alienating the majority to appease the minority. How is that better?

Because everyone has the privilege of playing here the way they want to play. That's why we have designated Class R targets for our players that want to enjoy the encounter itself and getting together with their friends to complete a challenge, rather than race to the target cut-throat style like class C. FFA spawns are meant to be a middle ground between the two - if you pick your targets strategically, you can get an uncontested spawn or two, especially with TMO and IB trying to clean up VP as quickly as possible on repops. There are targets for everyone, not just one side or the other.

[Splorf22]

So where have you been the last 6 months? We've been working hard to try and foster cooperation among these guys and cut down on the hostile and competitive attitudes that are dragging the top end of the server down.

OK, please explain to me how this is consistent with allowing players in Class C guilds to have alts in Class R guilds, and how this is not a blatant exploitation of the R/C/FFA system.

[Ella`Ella]

OK, please explain to me how this is consistent with allowing players in Class C guilds to have alts in Class R guilds, and how this is not a blatant exploitation of the R/C/FFA system.

Leadership doesn't encourage our members to join any other guilds, however cross-guild membership isn't simply native to TMO having alts in other guilds. However, we did recently bring to attention some guidelines we expect our members to follow if they do wish to join Class-R guilds. I'll give you the reader's digest of those principles.

-Any member of TMO is not to accept any loot from a raid target killed by a Class-R guild.
-Any member of TMO who tags a character of theirs into a Class-R guild forfeits the right to have that character tagged into TMO at a later date.
-You may not use a character tagged in a Class-R guild to gain DKP under your name in TMO.
-You may not assist TMO on a kill (FFA or Class-C) with any characters that are tagged in a Class-R guild.
-You may not attend TMO events on any character that is tagged in another guild.

In essence, if you are a member of TMO and you choose to tag one of your characters in a Class-R guild, that character is completely unrecognized from TMO and going one step further, blacklisted from future membership. We would also encourage leadership of other guilds who are aware of a member's cross affiliation to report to us the character in their guild and who you feel they might be in ours. We will also do what we can to match the characters for our records.

Some players simply want to experience more mobs, some people might want to fuck your rotation, some people might have friends in other guilds and want to experience game-play with them as well. I can't control people's motivations, but I can control how they effect the different classes and the restrictive rule-set we laid out goes a long way to prevent manipulations.

Chest and I are actually pretty good friends on my BDA tagged toon.

[Splorf22]

Unbrella I find your post surprisingly reasonable, but I still don't see why the GMs should allow it. The whole point of the R/C/FFA system was to put people in boxes and limit their ability to monopolize the content. If one player can tag toons in 3 Class R guilds and 1 class C guild, they can be present at every raid encounter.

[Hitpoint]

OK, please explain to me how this is consistent with allowing players in Class C guilds to have alts in Class R guilds, and how this is not a blatant exploitation of the R/C/FFA system.

I think you guys are stressing out over nothing. Probably a handful of people will even do this. Not enough to make any kind of noticeable difference anyway.

[arsenalpow]

Unbrella doesn't have a BDA tagged toon because he'd know I'm not friends with anyone.

[Ella`Ella]

Unbrella doesn't have a BDA tagged toon because he'd know I'm not friends with anyone.

I thought our relationship was so much more =/

[Machida]

chests officers talk so much shit about him in vent officer channel. hilarious your own officers think you are a tool

[Ravager]

That's why we have designated Class R targets for our players that want to enjoy the encounter itself and getting together with their friends to complete a challenge, rather than race to the target cut-throat style like class C.

But can it really work that way if the rotation isn't enforced? It would only take 3 guilds to lock it down and make it as cut-throat as class C and two guilds already express interest in doing this.

[Argh]

But can it really work that way if the rotation isn't enforced? It would only take 3 guilds to lock it down and make it as cut-throat as class C and two guilds already express interest in doing this.
There are rules specific to class R that protect it from becoming like class C (lockouts).

[arsenalpow]

Well except if 3 guilds decided to just say fuck the rotation they could effectively cut everyone else out and rotate.

[Ravager]

There are rules specific to class R that protect it from becoming like class C (lockouts).

Right, with 2 guilds wanting to FFA class R, only takes a third to monopolize the content and make the rotations disappear, except for the rotation for those three guilds? Do we save everyone the trouble and just form 3 super R guilds?

[Argh]

Except three guilds does not a monopoly make.

Also, there aren't three guilds who can do this in Class R.

[Ella`Ella]

Right, with 2 guilds wanting to FFA class R, only takes a third to monopolize the content and make the rotations disappear, except for the rotation for those three guilds? Do we save everyone the trouble and just form 3 super R guilds?

Save everyone the trouble and make Taken and BDA the Class-C guilds that they really are.

[Ravager]

Except three guilds does not a monopoly make.

Also, there aren't three guilds who can do this in Class R.

There absolutly is. There just aren't 3 who want to. Yet.

[Ravager]

Save everyone the trouble and make Taken and BDA the Class-C guilds that they really are.

Why not save class C the time and merge with TMO right off?

[Argh]

There absolutly is. There just aren't 3 who want to. Yet.
There absolutely are not.

[Ravager]

There absolutely are not.

If you say so.

[DontPostRNF]

1) TMO can say that they are blacklisted, but there is no way of anyone knowing if someone leaving your guild was an alt or a main, including TMO in some circumstances.

2) I don't even know if Genocidal Tendencies recognizes the hypocrisy in what they are doing. The only difference is that they weren't given access to spawn times by the Alliance before nerdraging out of the rotation like Lord Bob.

3) Saying TMO is in negotiations with them to put alts in their guild to mess over the rotation is intriguing to say the least. I'm pretty sure, if true, they wouldn't appreciate that tidbit of knowledge being thrown out, and GT killed any chance they had of that happening now. We all know that class C guilds have class R alts. I think we are all waiting for the day when one of these class R competition guilds obtained enough "recruits" to actually start doing some damage. The fact that this is OK is completely against the spirit of the agreement, but I don't see any easy way to police it.

4) There are enough Class R guilds capable of turning it into a monopoly if so desired as Divinity is likely capable. At the very least, 2 of them could rotate and leave the scraps. With lockouts, this even provides margin for error if they lose a prime-time FTE or the like. It'd be fun to see if the R guilds merged to fight them or started losing people to the 2-3 mentioned.

[Machida]

bda fucking people over and trying to spin it lol. Why do you guys stick up for a shitty leader who does nothing but whine and cry. I usually mute chest when he starts talking. the best action is when he isnt in channel and we arr all shit talking him. pras

[bigsykedaddy]

Hello Anon Troll, is there any particular reason I should be offended by you labeling me with a greek letter?

Yeah because you are a beta male... fucking betas.

[quido]

you guys love my BDA identity

probably most loved BDA

[Shinko]

quido = chest?

[khanable]

quido = chest?

No

[khanable]

Fuck posted from my alt account

[Splorf22]

Yeah because you are a beta male... fucking betas.

I finally googled to find out why you think this greek letter is so offensive. It turns out alpha = leader and beta = follower.

So if we are keeping score, I lead a guild for 2 years. I'd say that makes me an alpha. You log in at the request of your guild leader to hammer your keyboard for magical FTE messages at 4AM. I'd say that makes you a beta. The fact that you don't understand this? I'd say that makes you an idiot. The fact that you hide behind an anonymous forum tag? Probably the smartest thing you do here.

[Lazie]

I finally googled to find out why you think this greek letter is so offensive. It turns out alpha = leader and beta = follower.

So if we are keeping score, I lead a guild for 2 years. I'd say that makes me an alpha. You log in at the request of your guild leader to hammer your keyboard for magical FTE messages at 4AM. I'd say that makes you a beta. The fact that you don't understand this? I'd say that makes you an idiot. The fact that you hide behind an anonymous forum tag? Probably the smartest thing you do here.

Did you actually lead though ? Come on now it's A-team the puppet string guild.

[Splorf22]

Did you actually lead though ? Come on now it's A-team the puppet string guild.

I can't really be bothered to explain myself to a beta like you.

[Ambrotos]

Lazie so beta. He can't even increase his no-name status in game, so tries hard in RnF and fails.
Pack your bags son, and reroll to another game.

[Lazie]

I can't really be bothered to explain myself to a beta like you.

Beta couldn't handle VP on his monk so he guild hopped back.

[Lazie]

Lazie so beta. He can't even increase his no-name status in game, so tries hard in RnF and fails.
Pack your bags son, and reroll to another game.

Linger around long after you have lost your importance to this project. Beta.

[Susano]

I lead a guild for 2 years

You led a guild of solo artists, congratulations, you corralled all the socially retarded people on the server.

I listened to you in vent literally cry over your epic when one person was ahead of you.

BETA.
AS.
FUCK.

[Bazia]

nerds calling other nerds "beta"

yikes reel cringe worthy thread

[Mac Drettj]

everquest status is like the game of thrones

[Shinko]

TMO = Alpha
Rest server BETA?
BDA = ZETA?

[Lazie]

You led a guild of solo artists, congratulations, you corralled all the socially retarded people on the server.

I listened to you in vent literally cry over your epic when one person was ahead of you.

BETA.
AS.
FUCK.

He forgot to use the past participle led too. Fucking Beta.

[Susvain2]

i am the first person to popularize alpha and beta on this server. i made that shit hot. now yall using my words.

tldr: i am the alpha male

put it this way - if i wanted to physically hold any of you against a wall and proceed to shove my dick up your ass and bumfuck you. could you stop me? 99.999% of you are answering "no". Well that is what being alpha is. welcome to my world

[Mac Drettj]

sitting in line for your chance at a 16 hour window of a possible 2am maestro?

blue sounds like the place 2 b

[TMO so immersed]

i am the first person to popularize alpha and beta on this server. i made that shit hot. now yall using my words.

tldr: i am the alpha male

put it this way - if i wanted to physically hold any of you against a wall and proceed to shove my dick up your ass and bumfuck you. could you stop me? 99.999% of you are answering "no". Well that is what being alpha is. welcome to my world

Internet tough guy threatening people with sodomy on a P99 forum. Man brah you must be swimming in the pussy with that Pokemon card avatar

[Susvain2]

its a WoW trading card avatar. and it is my card. want me to tell the story again? See how it is titled "Sus'vayin" ? It would be "Susvain" but that is copyrighted from Monster Rancher 2, the video game on PS1. But it is my card, i was a troll mage with that hairstyle and hair color. and my robe looked like that graphic for a time. The people who were in charge of making/creating the WoW Trading Card Game for Upper Deck Entertainment just happened to be in the same guild as me in WoW. this was Vanilla. we raided together, there were like 4 or 5 of the UDE co-workers in our guild. So they submitted a bunch of our names, people from the guild, names/races/toon etc as cards. There are about 20 of us who got one named the same as our WoW toons. mine is in the Fire of Outland pack. Next time you buy a pack of cards if you get a Sus'vayin i will autograph it for you. Ill pay for S&H via paypal and autograph it for free cuz thats the kinda guy i am. I hook up my p99 bros

thats just another massive example of me being alpha

[TMO so immersed]

Lazie, is there a RnF thread you haven't come bursting into with both hands lubed up ready to grab Cecily's and the closest TMO microdick to start the circle jerk hoping one day some will grab yours?

[Lazie]

Lazie, is there a RnF thread you haven't come bursting into with both hands lubed up ready to grab Cecily's and the closest TMO microdick to start the circle jerk hoping one day some will grab yours?

You should really consider not feeling threatened by a guild tag over someone's head.

[Cecily]

Lazie, is there a RnF thread you haven't come bursting into with both hands lubed up ready to grab Cecily's and the closest TMO microdick to start the circle jerk hoping one day some will grab yours?

Once his DKP / RA is high enough.

[Lazie]

Once his DKP / RA is high enough.
:cool:

[Pheer]

its a WoW trading card avatar. and it is my card. want me to tell the story again? See how it is titled "Sus'vayin" ? It would be "Susvain" but that is copyrighted from Monster Rancher 2, the video game on PS1. But it is my card, i was a troll mage with that hairstyle and hair color. and my robe looked like that graphic for a time. The people who were in charge of making/creating the WoW Trading Card Game for Upper Deck Entertainment just happened to be in the same guild as me in WoW. this was Vanilla. we raided together, there were like 4 or 5 of the UDE co-workers in our guild. So they submitted a bunch of our names, people from the guild, names/races/toon etc as cards. There are about 20 of us who got one named the same as our WoW toons. mine is in the Fire of Outland pack. Next time you buy a pack of cards if you get a Sus'vayin i will autograph it for you. Ill pay for S&H via paypal and autograph it for free cuz thats the kinda guy i am. I hook up my p99 bros

thats just another massive example of me being alpha

pity reply

[Juryiel]

put it this way - if i wanted to physically hold any of you against a wall and proceed to shove my dick up your ass and bumfuck you. could you stop me? 99.999% of you are answering "no". Well that is what being alpha is. welcome to my world

I'll just leave this here
http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-average-male-4000-less-effective-in-fights,36321/

[Susvain2]

I'll just leave this here
http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-average-male-4000-less-effective-in-fights,36321/

yeah. I agree with this. except i wrestled in highschool, and i am a blue belt in jiu jitsu. So i cam completely grounded and humbled everyday. I know exactly where i stand in a fight and i know that is ahead of most guys because if you dont know any jiu-jitsu its a matter of time before you get choked out

[pufen]

My brother could kick the shit out of your brother pussy

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

This time of year I doubt any of ya'll could take me. My family runs a fireworks ship border of Kentucky and Ohio. Shit man, I'm like a human cherry bomb!

[Lazie]

I think this had a complete opposite effect than what you are going for. I bet this works good on resumes and impressing all your friends in RL. "Yeah, I know jiu-jitsu and have cards named after me in World of Warcraft." You must leave people in RL in awe, let me guess....you earned that blue belt online too? Same with all those rapes you have imagined? All done through the internet? Wait so you're saying you've never actually been in a fight, you just IMAGINE you'd do well? Thought so. If you think you'd kick peoples ass after defending your WoW card that you earned years ago as a major feat, along with wrestling back in "high school" and earning an online jiu-jitsu belt, you'd probably be one of those 4000% guys.

Lazie, if I were you, I'd stop posting here. People find you a joke. You act like you achieved so much by joining a guild that was already the top guild. It doesn't make you some "leet" player when you join a guild that merged to have 75% of the raiders that have access to VP in one consolidation. I want you to realize EQ is a time sink game. I know you haven't figured this out yet, but it will soon come. I also want to point out nut-hugging is NOT required to make you any better, in fact, makes you worse. When you come here posting in every forum defending TMO is makes you look like you are so desperate for some sort of attention and to be one of the "core" players in a guild that has already been running shit from some time just to make it seem like you achieved a bunch. You haven't, so stop pretending. I'm pretty sure anyone can level a character to 60, read up on game mechanics with their spare time and then join the top guild that is pretty uncontested and put an insane amount of hours of tracking/raiding and guess what? They'd still be in the same position as you, without putting those lips to any nuts.

Rustled Beta. No one has to defend TMO in RNF btw. Most of this shit isn't serious. Stop taking it as such.

[Lazie]

I guess that's why you have so many posts here, don't make me pull up your post history.....really.....not......serious.....yet can't keep posting I wonder if beta/alpha would ever be something all the "cool" kids would say outside of the internet, I highly doubt it. Don't be cliché, faggot.

You should forget me Phil. Move on with your life.

[Ravager]

You should forget me Phil. Move on with your life.

I put this in Google Translate: Beta to Alpha

"Stop being mean! Leave me alone!"

[Lazie]

I put this in Google Translate: Beta to Alpha

"Stop being mean! Leave me alone!"

You Betas gotta stick together I guess. At least you aren't stalking my post history like an obsessive female.

[Ravager]

You Betas gotta stick together I guess. At least you aren't stalking my post history like an obsessive female.

I didn't even want to read it the first time.

[Lazie]

I didn't even want to read it the first time.

Yet you keep reading. Amazing intellect.

[Ravager]

Yet you keep reading. Amazing intellect.

It's kinda like watching a train wreck.

[Lazie]

I'm kinda a train wreck.

[Lazie]

test

[Juevento]

huh, I thought you were a human...

confirmed nobody.

[Ravager]

I think I win, because I always get the last word.

[Splorf22]

Leading people makes you alpha. Responding to batphones and jav spamming for hours? Not so much.

Keep trying, Lazie.

[Splorf22]

Ravager, you have to understand that Lazie, like Alarti, is a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect. He is simply not intelligent enough to realize that he gets destroyed every time he posts in RNF, so he simply goes on claiming victory and regurgitating the same one liners until everyone else gets tired.

I think this alpha-beta thing sparked so many pages overnight because guys like Lazie derive almost all of their sense of self worth from EQ. If you attack that, they have nothing. So it drives them into a rustled frenzy.

P.S. DOUBLE POST

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Doesn't have to claim victory. He pulls/kills dragons. Collects loot. The fuck more you want in EQ?

[Juevento]

Cool people to kill dragons with. I think you guys don't get that part of it.

[Argh]

Beta couldn't handle VP on his monk so he guild hopped back.

Linger around long after you have lost your importance to this project. Beta.

He forgot to use the past participle led too. Fucking Beta.

Rustled Beta. No one has to defend TMO in RNF btw. Most of this shit isn't serious. Stop taking it as such.

You Betas gotta stick together I guess. At least you aren't stalking my post history like an obsessive female.

http://makeameme.org/media/created/stop-trying-to-wi50cq.jpg

[Shinko]

it's even worse in tmo vent

[hatelore]

Calling someone beta just sounds fishy. Quit being such a stinky pussy Lazie.

[Archalen]

Yeah because you are a beta male... fucking betas.

Confirmed epsilon.

[zanderklocke]

P99 getting overrun by Greek frat bros!

[sulious]

Ravager, you have to understand that Lazie, like Alarti, is a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect. He is simply not intelligent enough to realize that he gets destroyed every time he posts in RNF, so he simply goes on claiming victory and regurgitating the same one liners until everyone else gets tired.

I think this alpha-beta thing sparked so many pages overnight because guys like Lazie derive almost all of their sense of self worth from EQ. If you attack that, they have nothing. So it drives them into a rustled frenzy.

P.S. DOUBLE POST

FOR THE WIN!

[Ciroco]

Ooh, ahh, Alpha Beta...

[Fael]

The irony is that the guild name "A Team" has its etymological roots in the notion of alpha/beta, first team/second team.

So basically your calling your self a douche here.

[cs616]

The irony is that the guild name "A Team" has its etymological roots in the notion of alpha/beta, first team/second team.

So basically your calling your self a douche here.

Actually I think A-Team term comes from the military Operational Detachment Alpha (ODA) teams, which aren't named in terms of Alpha/Beta in the sense they're being used here, but from the military phonetic alphabet. ODB teams are Operational Detachment Bravo (not Beta). The naming nomenclature has nothing to do with the notions of a first or second team.

[Splorf22]

The irony is that the guild name "A Team" has its etymological roots in the notion of alpha/beta, first team/second team.

So basically your calling your self a douche here.

It has its etymological roots in a 1980s television show, obviously.

P.S. I expect better grammar from a young lawyer!

[Wildino]

For ignorant people

http://s27.postimg.org/w8t4ctdxf/image.jpg

[Arteker]

It has its etymological roots in a 1980s television show, obviously.

P.S. I expect better grammar from a young lawyer!

It was a guy's show. It was male driven. It was written by guys. It was directed by guys. It was acted by guys. It's about what guys do. We talked the way guys talked. We were the boss. We were the God. We smoked when we wanted. We shot guns when we wanted. We kissed the girls and made them cry... when we wanted. It was the last truly masculine show.

[Anichek]

We were the boss.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oirZZy6knXc/UPm9fl3mw5I/AAAAAAAABQw/IzvHCPk22xw/s400/whos-the-boss.jpg

[Artaenc]

For ignorant people

http://s27.postimg.org/w8t4ctdxf/image.jpg

it's a good thing everquest doesn't require riding an airplane, "The A-Team" would be down a member.

[Splorf22]

it's a good thing everquest doesn't require riding an airplane, "The A-Team" would be down a member.

It's OK, we sedate Coeur before we take him up to the Plane of Sky

[Fael]

Actually I think A-Team term comes from the military Operational Detachment Alpha (ODA) teams, which aren't named in terms of Alpha/Beta in the sense they're being used here, but from the military phonetic alphabet. ODB teams are Operational Detachment Bravo (not Beta). The naming nomenclature has nothing to do with the notions of a first or second team.

I would blame my grammar on laziness when typing on iPhone as I do too often, but I admit that my writing always has tons of mistakes unless I take time to edit it. Graduating from a top 20 law school didn't help much with that either (money wasted).

I stand corrected. As a former army infantry officer with tons of friends now on ODA teams, it's sad I didn't make that connection. But the wiki says it so it must be true.

Dolic

[Funkutron5000]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oirZZy6knXc/UPm9fl3mw5I/AAAAAAAABQw/IzvHCPk22xw/s400/whos-the-boss.jpg

The boss was clearly Mona.

[Estolcles]

Let's see..... Rogean, Nilbog, and the rest of the staff control the game, everyone else just plays it.

Staff: Alpha
All the players: Betas

BTW: This whole "Alpha/Beta" bullshit is more retarded than that white tiger with Down's Syndrome. I said it many times, and I'll say it again (even applying it to myself): EVERYONE PLAYING P99 IS A GODDAMNED BETA. The ones who think they're alphas are really just lying to themselves.

[Pint]

EVERYONE PLAYING P99 IS A GODDAMNED BETA. The ones who think they're alphas are really just lying to themselves.

p much

[Bazia]

dont label me u maggots

[Lazie]

Ravager, you have to understand that Lazie, like Alarti, is a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect. He is simply not intelligent enough to realize that he gets destroyed every time he posts in RNF, so he simply goes on claiming victory and regurgitating the same one liners until everyone else gets tired.

I think this alpha-beta thing sparked so many pages overnight because guys like Lazie derive almost all of their sense of self worth from EQ. If you attack that, they have nothing. So it drives them into a rustled frenzy.

P.S. DOUBLE POST

Dunning-Kruger effect- Unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.

Sounds like the definition of you every time someone runs into you in game and has to do something productive with you. Your cringe worthy raid ideas that are even further out of touch with reality. If there was a example of taking self worth from this game you would be the prime example Loraen. Your ego is tied up into this server and most people just shake their head and laugh at you when they have to deal with you.

[Lazie]

Cool people to kill dragons with. I think you guys don't get that part of it.

Most of the people are cool individuals on this server honestly. Rants and Flames isn't a good place to judge character. People aren't being serious in this forum.

[Splorf22]

Oh god, the 'no u' defense. Well I didn't expect anything interesting out of you anyway.

[Uuruk]

Oh lordy

[Lazie]

Oh god, the 'no u' defense. Well I didn't expect anything interesting out of you anyway.

I mean it's the truth Loraen and your history on the server shows it. You are the key example here of someone who overvalues themselves and then can't produce when put in a tough situation. I imagine that is why you stick mostly to a smaller guild and click your puppet strings. Just like your real life you avoid responsibility so you can sit back and claim you are good at something without ever having to prove it.

[cs616]

As a former army infantry officer


Infantry officer turned lawyer, oh god. :rolleyes:

[contemptor]

Doesn't have to claim victory. He pulls/kills dragons. Collects loot. The fuck more you want in EQ?
He javspams at all hours of the day for at least 4 days a week, and then consistently brags about himself on the forums to show his clicking dominance. Some people just enjoy playing the game with friends, rather than living it.

[Lazie]

He javspams at all hours of the day for at least 4 days a week, and then consistently brags about himself on the forums to show his clicking dominance. Some people just enjoy playing the game with friends, rather than living it.

Show one post where I bragged. Just 1.

[Argh]

Show one post where I bragged. Just 1.

My spank bank bro.

[Sun May 25 17:00:39 2014] Innoruuk engages Lazie!
[Sat May 31 00:27:41 2014] Druushk engages Lazie!
[Sat May 31 05:42:59 2014] Xygoz engages Lazie!
[Sat May 31 08:25:34 2014] Silverwing engages Lazie!
[Sun Jun 01 12:22:57 2014] Hoshkar engages Lazie!
[Sun Jun 01 21:22:54 2014] Innoruuk engages Lazie!
[Mon Jun 02 13:50:40 2014] Maestro of Rancor engages Lazie!
[Sat Jun 07 02:48:17 2014] Xygoz engages Lazie!
[Sat Jun 07 07:05:33 2014] a dracoliche engages Beemss!
[Sat Jun 07 07:23:58 2014] Cazic Thule engages Beemss!
[Sat Jun 07 10:56:37 2014] Druushk engages Lazie!
[Fri Jun 13 08:17:25 2014] Phara Dar engages Lazie!
[Sat Jun 14 07:56:18 2014] Cazic Thule engages Beemss!
[Sun Jun 22 15:29:52 2014] Hoshkar engages Lazie!
[Mon Jun 23 10:33:57 2014] Innoruuk engages Lazie!

[Uuruk]

Faggot just got wrecked.

[Lazie]

That is not bragging moran. Read what it was in reply to.

[Lazie]

You guys can't even read the context of a joke properly. Sad.

[Mac Drettj]

All this drama for a 2 am maestro?

Dat mempo

[indiscriminate_hater]

You guys can't even read the context of a joke properly. Sad.

will ignore my distaste for these because lazie is fucking pathetic

http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1389/69/1389691711541.jpg

[Lazie]

will ignore my distaste for these because lazie is fucking pathetic

http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1389/69/1389691711541.jpg

:rolleyes: Poor idiot.

[Sssleeve]

Lazie sig is p dope

[Nightbear]

Lazie sig is p dope

the double lazie sig threw me off

[Estolcles]

the double lazie sig threw me off

I think Lazie missed the point of what a secondary, troll account is for.

[Lazie]

I think Lazie missed the point of what a secondary, troll account is for.

Not my account. Someone just enjoys looking at my char.

:)