Achmed Spreads Islam, Tries to find the Snackbar

[Lune]

Life's not easy when you're an ISIS soldier in northern Iraq. How are you supposed to spread Islam when you only have a limited amount of ammunition? Where can you find affordable sulfuric acid for teaching the insights of the Qur'an to women? How can you keep a straight face when you tell ignorant westerners Islam is a peaceful religion?

But most of all: Where can I find the Allahu Snackbar?

Answers to these questions and more, in this summer's hottest new blockbuster:

Saleel Sawarim: ISIS in Iraq (https://ia801509.us.archive.org/18/items/al_saleel_4/SaleelSawarim.mp4)

(The fun starts at 4:30. NSFW - Parental advisory: Contains graphic acts of Islam)

Coming soon to a mosque near you.

[Hailto]

Spoken Arabic does sound cool though

[Orruar]

For those of us that don't speak Arabic, what is this?

[Lune]

ISIS propaganda video documenting their campaign in Iraq, mostly the killing of Iraqi Security Forces, known/suspected collaborators, and members of the Shi'a government. They also added some footage of what are basically recruitment seminars for 'liberated sunnis'.

[Hailto]

My thoughts:

http://i.imgur.com/2Z76jUj.jpg

[Orruar]

I remember the good old days where you did your mass murders and beheadings behind closed doors and knew it would be bad if others saw it. And these are the people we would have been supporting if we had gone to war with Syria as so many were pushing for.

[Greegon]

wow i watched like 8 minutes, and i have no idea why i went that far

you should warn more about how fucking disturbing this shit it is

[Lune]

wow i watched like 8 minutes, and i have no idea why i went that far

you should warn more about how fucking disturbing this shit it is

Islam is a religion of peace, I'm offended that you would call it disturbing. I like the part where they teach those young men in the yellow car about Allah's love. They even stop and open the doors afterward to make sure they've fully experienced Allah's holiness.

(Holiness, get it? Because they are full of holes? :cool:)

http://i.imgur.com/hHqEmdm.jpg

[Tasslehofp99]

Lets not act like one religion is any more violent than another because the other ones stopped mass murders a few centuries ago.

All religions are responsible for senseless violence. They're all equally created and corrupted by men.

Only path to world peace is to abolish ALL forms of religion around the world.

[Greegon]

Only path to world peace is to abolish ALL forms of religion around the world.

heh, naw

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/82/8298e3d25f49d9c58ee2c0b895a9687daaacb76740bc749975 bbec672e4d9a0c.jpg

[Daldolma]

Lets not act like one religion is any more violent than another because the other ones stopped mass murders a few centuries ago.


this sentence is somehow astoundingly incorrect both factually and theoretically

if one religion had stopped mass murders and another had not, that would be a fantastic reason to view the still-mass-murdering religion as "more violent"

and the implication that christianity hasn't been responsible for mass murder in a few centuries is also wrong

also: abolishing religion def not the path to world peace, mass murder still highly popular with secular governments

will pray 4 u

[Tasslehofp99]

All religions are equally guilty of committing violence against those who are dfferent.

Jews, Christians, Catholics, Muslims...shit I bet some Buddhists and Hindus have also commit violence at some point.

What do all religions have in common? They've all been created by men, their scripture written by men.



IF god is real, I doubt he is wasting his time talking or associating with any jesus christs or Muhammads or moses trying to get his word to the people. I also doubt that humanity could even comprehend god's existence or his will. Simply put, any religion on earth are most likely made up by the types of people who, today, would be locked in mental institutions.


You guys can all choose to believe what you want, that is your right as a person. I just really am suprised that so many people over thousands of years still believe in this nonsense.

I guess its just like when your parents tell you whats right and wrong when you're a child, and you still carry their opinions with you well into adulthood before you start thinking for yourself.

[Glenzig]

Lets not act like one religion is any more violent than another because the other ones stopped mass murders a few centuries ago.

All religions are responsible for senseless violence. They're all equally created and corrupted by men.

Only path to world peace is to abolish ALL forms of religion around the world.

Well there will definitely come a point in the very near future when all religion will be essentially done away with. Unfortunately, this won't lead to world peace. Quite the opposite actually.

[eskimospy]

because the other ones stopped mass murders a few centuries ago.

I feel this is important

[Glenzig]

All religions are equally guilty of committing violence against those who are dfferent.

Jews, Christians, Catholics, Muslims...shit I bet some Buddhists and Hindus have also commit violence at some point.

What do all religions have in common? They've all been created by men, their scripture written by men.



IF god is real, I doubt he is wasting his time talking or associating with any jesus christs or Muhammads or moses trying to get his word to the people. I also doubt that humanity could even comprehend god's existence or his will. Simply put, any religion on earth are most likely made up by the types of people who, today, would be locked in mental institutions.


You guys can all choose to believe what you want, that is your right as a person. I just really am suprised that so many people over thousands of years still believe in this nonsense.

I guess its just like when your parents tell you whats right and wrong when you're a child, and you still carry their opinions with you well into adulthood before you start thinking for yourself.

The part in confused about is how you think that man has corrupted all forms of religion ,(which they have, not arguing on that) and yet somehow relying solely on science, which is mans observation of the world around him, would somehow be free from any form of the same type of corruption. If men made all religion, and men tell you what is and isn't true of science,aren't you in the same boat as any religious person? Youre still relying on men for your answers.

[Estolcles]

Jews and Muslims handle all the violence in the middle east. Christian extremists are at war in Africa, killing Muslims. Catholics and Protestants are still at war in Ireland. Hindus and Buddhists have issues in China with the Chinese politicians and armies.

Not one religion has blood not on their hands.

[Tasslehofp99]

Jews and Muslims handle all the violence in the middle east. Christian extremists are at war in Africa, killing Muslims. Catholics and Protestants are still at war in Ireland. Hindus and Buddhists have issues in China with the Chinese politicians and armies.

Not one religion has blood not on their hands.

That's what I'm sayin! And its not like all of this killing is a new thing.

You guys ever heard of the crusades?

Anyway, government and religion go hand in hand.

each institution uses the other to keep people pacified


Man wasn't made to be subjugated or controlled by any god or government. We are animals that are currently not existing in our natural habitat.

We are essentially being held un captivity by all religions and governments.

[Nisse]

The part in confused about is how you think that man has corrupted all forms of religion ,(which they have, not arguing on that) and yet somehow relying solely on science, which is mans observation of the world around him, would somehow be free from any form of the same type of corruption. If men made all religion, and men tell you what is and isn't true of science,aren't you in the same boat as any religious person? Youre still relying on men for your answers.

Science is just a tool we use to investigate the natural world.

http://http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node6.html

The scientific method is the best way yet discovered for winnowing the truth from lies and delusion. The simple version looks something like this:

1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.

When consistency is obtained the hypothesis becomes a theory and provides a coherent set of propositions which explain a class of phenomena. A theory is then a framework within which observations are explained and predictions are made.

[Glenzig]

Science is just a tool we use to investigate the natural world.

http://http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node6.html

Ok. So there has never been anything science related that has been purposefully falsified to provide a predetermined answer?

[Glenzig]

Then it wouldn't be science. It would be propaganda.

Exactly. Only disguised as science. Thank you.

[Nisse]

Ok. So there has never been anything science related that has been purposefully falsified to provide a predetermined answer?

From the same article.

A theory is accepted not based on the prestige or convincing powers of the proponent, but on the results obtained through observations and/or experiments which anyone can reproduce: the results obtained using the scientific method are repeatable. In fact, most experiments and observations are repeated many times (certain experiments are not repeated independently but are repeated as parts of other experiments). If the original claims are not verified the origin of such discrepancies is hunted down and exhaustively studied.

[Glenzig]

From the same article.

Doesn't answer the question. I'm not disputing the scientific method. I'm saying that scientists can be just as likely to have an agenda as anyone else. They're still human after all. The scientific method can be bypassed or pushed to the side in lieu of an agenda. Its certainly happened before.

[Ames who?]

The song playing throughout most of the video sounds pretty cool but these dudes are some real sick fuckers. They will all end up dead soon themselves anyway. Live by the sword and get blown up by a drone.

[Ames who?]

The ISIS won't ever be able to take control of the entire country though. Iran won't let that happen and neither will the kurds or the U.S.A.

[phacemeltar]

are you sure that ISIS is a religious organization? i cannot understand arabic, so i do not know what is being said. it seems as though they are only attacking military officials, which is very different from radical religious zealots who attack random people.

from what i can tell by watching this propaganda video, all of their efforts seem to be tactical and organized. but im only at 13 minutes..

[phacemeltar]

nevermind, it gets better.

[Nisse]

Doesn't answer the question. I'm not disputing the scientific method. I'm saying that scientists can be just as likely to have an agenda as anyone else. They're still human after all. The scientific method can be bypassed or pushed to the side in lieu of an agenda. Its certainly happened before.

Of course scientists have/will continue to be subject to the same faults and biases the rest of us have. But at least the medium they are using to further their own agenda has built in self correcting mechanisms to account for human nature. A big part of the scientific method is identifying flaws in the methodology that lead to researcher bias, even when they themselves are unaware it's taking place. Double blinding in medical trials for instance. Science is certainly not a perfect system but I am unaware of a better way to evaluate truth claims at this point in time.

An example of the point I believe you are trying to make would be Lysenkoism (Lysenkoism is used metaphorically to describe the manipulation or distortion of the scientific process as a way to reach a predetermined conclusion as dictated by an ideological bias, often related to social or political objectives) which was based on the faulty Lamarckian hypothesis known as the inheritance of acquired characteristics, which while popular, and supported by the soviet union, had the unfortunate side effect of being incorrect and caused the science of genetics in russia to stagnate and fall significantly behind the west continuing even to the modern era.

So I agree with you to the extent that science can be bastardized to further a personal or political objective (vaccines and autism, the tobacco industry and lung cancer research) the methodology and principles of science will eventually bare out the facts, since the object of hypothesis testing is to disprove your hypothesis, not support it.

[MrSparkle001]

It's a stable region with a stable population. Peace is possible. I'm pretty sure that's the entire point of their video.

[Ahldagor]

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/smoke-weed-and-kill-whitey.png

[Glenzig]

On a small scale, occasionally, but if you think there's some global conspiracy level bullshit, it's just not possible by the very nature of publication and peer review. There's no secret initiation before becoming a scientist, and publications with bad hypotheses get retracted regularly when the data isn't reproducible.

Invariably, bad data that actually gets published is typically falsified because someone doesn't want to lose their funding, not some top lel conspiracy to defraud the public.

So there have only been small scale and inconsequential frauds that have happened within the scientific community? There hasn't ever been anything that was later proven a fraud that was of global importance?

[a_gnoll_pup]

So there have only been small scale and inconsequential frauds that have happened within the scientific community? There hasn't ever been anything that was later proven a fraud that was of global importance?

the holocaust

just ask iran

[Lojik]

Thought this would be a thread about a new Snackums character. I am disappoint

[Nihilist_santa]

Peer review has its problems especially the subscription based journals.

http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2013/10/04/open-access-is-not-the-problem/

http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/04/publishing-stings-find-predatory-journals-shoddy-peer-review/

[Cistern]

I've seen this entire video before and all I want is someone who can translate it.

[radditsu]

That's what I'm sayin! And its not like all of this killing is a new thing.

You guys ever heard of the crusades?

Anyway, government and religion go hand in hand.

each institution uses the other to keep people pacified


Man wasn't made to be subjugated or controlled by any god or government. We are animals that are currently not existing in our natural habitat.

We are essentially being held un captivity by all religions and governments.



Hah he believes the crusades were about rreligion.

[Gaffin 7.0]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRlM1wG0ed4Wi6U-aPJ8wzcQCQ6zIH5YnkDC2Y1ezB6I6fXPbwAMakt8g

[myriverse]

Lets not act like one religion is any more violent than another because the other ones stopped mass murders a few centuries ago.

All religions are responsible for senseless violence. They're all equally created and corrupted by men.

Only path to world peace is to abolish ALL forms of religion around the world.
Sadly, even in the absence of religion, there is violence. You want peace? Support Skynet. Once the puny humans are out of the way, there will be tons of it.

[myriverse]

Hah he believes the crusades were about rreligion.
Right. It was the fucking shitting system of capitalism. Abolish that shit.

[radditsu]

Right. It was the fucking shitting system of capitalism. Abolish that shit.

Ehh they wanted land and riches and shit. Religious agenda wasnt something they really cared about higher up. That was mostly a nationalist esque sentiment to get *****s to die for them.

I am sure some wholeheartedly believed in the cause of wiping out those dirty muslims

[hatelore]

Lets not act like one religion is any more violent than another because the other ones stopped mass murders a few centuries ago.

All religions are responsible for senseless violence. They're all equally created and corrupted by men.

Only path to world peace is to abolish ALL forms of religion around the world.

shut your turn coat, bitch ass, stanky smellin ass up man. We need to abolish you to save what's left of your sanity~

[radditsu]

shut your turn coat, bitch ass, stanky smellin ass up man. We need to abolish you to save what's left of your sanity~

MURICA

[hatelore]

MURICA

Never forget! And its Murika you inbred. Did you not attend skool?

[Orruar]

I've seen this entire video before and all I want is someone who can translate it.

I'll take up the challenge:

"God is great. God is great. Praise God. Death to the traitors. God is great." x50

[Lune]

I've seen this entire video before and all I want is someone who can translate it.

There is a version out there with English subtitles (http://www.bestgore.com/execution/saleel-al-sawarim-4-isis-propaganda-video-english-subtitles/).

^NSFW, violence

[Orruar]

Well there will definitely come a point in the very near future when all religion will be essentially done away with. Unfortunately, this won't lead to world peace. Quite the opposite actually.

Yes, because as this video clearly shows, religion is the only thing keeping us from descending into chaos. Idiot.

[Glenzig]

Yes, because as this video clearly shows, religion is the only thing keeping us from descending into chaos. Idiot.

Well that's not what I said at all.

[Orruar]

There is a version out there with English subtitles (http://www.bestgore.com/execution/saleel-al-sawarim-4-isis-propaganda-video-english-subtitles/).

^NSFW, violence

Looks like my translation was spot on.

Here's an idea for a drinking game. Watch the video and take a drink anytime there is a sentence without a reference to their religion/god. It's not a particularly fun game though, as you'll be stone cold sober by the end, I promise.

[Lune]

Fundamentalist Christians sit around in bible study talking about Jesus. At their very worst they go to Africa and encourage Africans not to use condoms, or try to force schools to teach creationism.

At their worst, fundamentalist Muslims make videos like Saleel Sawarim, and they kill people. Instead of shit like creationism in schools, they try to inflict the entire system of sharia law on society. Cultural relativists will tell you sharia and all the different heavily Islam-influenced cultures of the world aren't inherently better or worse than any other religious code or culture. I think that's a crock of shit. Our ancestors spent the better part of 2,000 years in a life or death struggle to keep Islam invaders out of Europe for a reason.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Thought this would be a thread about a new Snackums character. I am disappoint

[Greegon]

At their very worst they go to Africa and encourage Africans not to use condoms,

YIKES

[Ahldagor]

a man that understood what he was dealing with

http://www.bloodsprayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/VladTepesImpaleForest.jpg

you have to make muslim fighters think that you are crazier than they are, and if you actually are then good. you'll have an advantage. if the US just nuked afghanistan then half the shit in the middle east would have settled down. they're a culture that's codependent as fuck as long as they stay stuck in their medieval weltanschaung.

[Ahldagor]

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/smoke-weed-and-kill-whitey.png

[Kekephee]

Fundamentalist Christians sit around in bible study talking about Jesus. At their very worst they go to Africa and encourage Africans not to use condoms, or try to force schools to teach creationism.

At their worst, fundamentalist Muslims make videos like Saleel Sawarim, and they kill people. Instead of shit like creationism in schools, they try to inflict the entire system of sharia law on society. Cultural relativists will tell you sharia and all the different heavily Islam-influenced cultures of the world aren't inherently better or worse than any other religious code or culture. I think that's a crock of shit. Our ancestors spent the better part of 2,000 years in a life or death struggle to keep Islam invaders out of Europe for a reason.

Fundamentalist Christians kill gays on a pretty regular basis. It's not a suicide bombing, but beating a 17 year old kid to death is pretty bad.

[Ahldagor]

Fundamentalist Christians kill gays on a pretty regular basis. It's not a suicide bombing, but beating a 17 year old kid to death is pretty bad.

false equivalency with a consideration of time. it's on the regular that someone is executed in a sharia controlled area for an offense to islam. fundamentalist christians aren't executing people openly. they hide like cowards. it's like in india with the girls being gang raped and publicly hanged in their shame. basically uneducated, poor, and in areas where gov don't give a fuck tends to get people in those areas thinking some stupid shit.

[Estolcles]

a man that understood what he was dealing with

http://www.bloodsprayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/VladTepesImpaleForest.jpg

you have to make muslim fighters think that you are crazier than they are, and if you actually are then good. you'll have an advantage. if the US just nuked afghanistan then half the shit in the middle east would have settled down. they're a culture that's codependent as fuck as long as they stay stuck in their medieval weltanschaung.

This.

[Estolcles]

false equivalency with a consideration of time. it's on the regular that someone is executed in a sharia controlled area for an offense to islam. fundamentalist christians aren't executing people openly. they hide like cowards. it's like in india with the girls being gang raped and publicly hanged in their shame. basically uneducated, poor, and in areas where gov don't give a fuck tends to get people in those areas thinking some stupid shit.

Actually, once you get into Africa, there's a group called Boku Haram (maybe it's Boko Haram, can't remember at the moment) that are Christian extremists who are being all genocidal, killing off anyone of any other religion (and whitey) that gets in their path. Plus they do the whole gang rape and execute thing too.

[Lune]

Actually, once you get into Africa, there's a group called Boku Haram (maybe it's Boko Haram, can't remember at the moment) that are Christian extremists who are being all genocidal, killing off anyone of any other religion (and whitey) that gets in their path. Plus they do the whole gang rape and execute thing too.

Boko Haram is muslim. You're thinking of the other trendy African warlord, Joseph Kony and the Lord's Resistance Army. They practice a synthesis of local paganism, Islam, and Christianity, thus they are hardly 'Christian' compared to ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, etc which are very purely fundamentalist Islamic.

[DeruIsLove]

Fundamentalist Christians sit around in bible study talking about Jesus. At their very worst they go to Africa and encourage Africans not to use condoms, or try to force schools to teach creationism.

At their worst, fundamentalist Muslims make videos like Saleel Sawarim, and they kill people. Instead of shit like creationism in schools, they try to inflict the entire system of sharia law on society. Cultural relativists will tell you sharia and all the different heavily Islam-influenced cultures of the world aren't inherently better or worse than any other religious code or culture. I think that's a crock of shit. Our ancestors spent the better part of 2,000 years in a life or death struggle to keep Islam invaders out of Europe for a reason.

Don't forget bombing abortion clinics, killing gays/trans/anything not confirming to heteronormativity, the KKK, Ireland... the list goes on.

[Lune]

True, but it's one thing for that kind of shit to crop up from time to time, and it's another for it to happen systematically and universally among fundamentalist Islamic states and organizations. Try being gay/trans/anything, or even atheist, in a sharia country.

[Rivthis]

I came to the forums to read about some P99 drama and get in the mood for a grind session. Now after watching this video all i want to do is play battlefield 4.

Thanks guys, really wanted to level today.

[DeruIsLove]

True, but it's one thing for that kind of shit to crop up from time to time, and it's another for it to happen systematically and universally among fundamentalist Islamic states and organizations. Try being gay/trans/anything, or even atheist, in a sharia country.

I've read statistics from multiple sources showing that there are a great deal more openly homosexual/trans people in the middle east than there are in Amurika. Not claiming its not more dangerous there obv, but for every killing of a homosexual in the middle east you have a homosexual committing suicide in the states.

[Arteker]

That's what I'm sayin! And its not like all of this killing is a new thing.

You guys ever heard of the crusades?

Anyway, government and religion go hand in hand.

each institution uses the other to keep people pacified


Man wasn't made to be subjugated or controlled by any god or government. We are animals that are currently not existing in our natural habitat.

We are essentially being held un captivity by all religions and governments.
way before the crusades happened they allredy have took the old roman provicens on north africa, invaded and crushed the visigoths in spain, invaded france, sieged even roma .


,

[MrSparkle001]

True, but it's one thing for that kind of shit to crop up from time to time, and it's another for it to happen systematically and universally among fundamentalist Islamic states and organizations. Try being gay/trans/anything, or even atheist, in a sharia country.

Try being female.

[Estolcles]

Try being female.

Almost every religion treats women like shit, but Muslims and Sharia Law take the cake BY FAR.

[Daldolma]

I've read statistics from multiple sources showing that there are a great deal more openly homosexual/trans people in the middle east than there are in Amurika. Not claiming its not more dangerous there obv, but for every killing of a homosexual in the middle east you have a homosexual committing suicide in the states.

[citation needed]

also, and more importantly, you can't seriously be equating suicide with murder

[DeruIsLove]

you can't seriously be equating suicide with murder

You bet your ass when religious indoctrination causes people to end their lives because they can't be who they were born to be I can and will (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown)

[Glenzig]

You bet your ass when religious indoctrination causes people to end their lives because they can't be who they were born to be I can and will (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown)

Here is the problem with that though. A quote from Jim Jones himself.
"I decided, how can I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church. So I consciously made a decision to look into that prospect."

Marxism is a secular movement, not a religious one. So in this instance where do you actually lay the blame? He ran a "church", but he based it all on Marxist ideals.

[DeruIsLove]

Here is the problem with that though. A quote from Jim Jones himself.
"I decided, how can I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church. So I consciously made a decision to look into that prospect."

Marxism is a secular movement, not a religious one. So in this instance where do you actually lay the blame? He ran a "church", but he based it all on Marxist ideals.

Who cares what it was "based on"? Christianity was supposedly based on peace, generosity and sacrifice, yet it's arguably the most corrupt and greedy regime on the planet.

[Estolcles]

Christianity was supposedly based on peace, generosity and sacrifice, yet it's arguably the most corrupt and greedy regime on the planet.

Tied with Judaism. But that's only because it's over time vs. recent developments, respectively.

[Glenzig]

Who cares what it was "based on"? Christianity was supposedly based on peace, generosity and sacrifice, yet it's arguably the most corrupt and greedy regime on the planet.

You bet your ass when religious indoctrination causes people to end their lives because they can't be who they were born to be I can and will (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown)

Well by your post I thought that you cared.

[DeruIsLove]

Well by your post I thought that you cared.

False equivalency.

[Glenzig]

False equivalency.

No. Not actually. I was just going off of your own point.

[DeruIsLove]

No. Not actually. I was just going off of your own point.

I don't see your point or how you achieved it via the posts you quoted. Enlighten me.

[Glenzig]

I don't see your point or how you achieved it via the posts you quoted. Enlighten me.

Ok. You said that people committed such atrocities because of there religious indoctrination. The problem is that the example you gave of Jim Jones and Jonestown is a bit of a conundrum. Even though Jones teachings were presented as religious in nature, his driving force for his ideals was quite obviously Marxism, which is not a religious concept, but a secular one. Therefore its hard to draw a hard line in your example that you cited that it was caused by religion. Since the fact remains that Jones himself was a Marxist, and it was the driving force behind his teachings. Does it make more sense to you now?

[DeruIsLove]

Ah no wonder you are trying to take my posts completely out of context. You don't even understand the context of my posts in the first place. Cults/Religion are one in the same, people at the top exploiting the ones below them via fear/indoctrination/lies. Are we clear on this? Ok good.

It doesn't matter what an individual's belief system is when you are talking about religion as an institution.

[Glenzig]

Ah no wonder you are trying to take my posts completely out of context. You don't even understand the context of my posts in the first place. Cults/Religion are one in the same, people at the top exploiting the ones below them via fear/indoctrination/lies. Are we clear on this? Ok good.

It doesn't matter what an individual's belief system is when you are talking about religion as an institution.

Ok. I get what you're saying. Its just hard to say that someone has taken your posts out of context when you were being purposefully vague though. Might want to explain yourself a little more clearly before belittling someone for not understanding.

[DeruIsLove]

Always assume religion is bad. Isn't that like some modern tenant to live by?

[DeruIsLove]

Amurika (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/06/19/pagan-temple-blocked-ak/)

[Rellapse40]

http://www.cakefarter.com/

[Estolcles]

Always assume religion is bad. Isn't that like some modern tenant to live by?

"No denomination has nailed it yet because they're all to self righteous to realize it doesn't matter what you have faith in just that you have faith." ~ Serendipity (Salma Hayek), Dogma

"Wars. Bigotry. Televangelism. The big one, though, is the factioning of all the religions. He said mankind got it all wrong by taking a good idea and building a belief structure on it." ~ Rufus (Chris Rock), Dogma

Everything wrong with religions, summed up in one comedy movie.

"Dogma" changed my life.

[Tasslehofp99]

Praying for a plague to wipe out everyone on earth who believes in god, heaven, hell, or any other equally retarded shit.


Place would be so much better then

[Lojik]

Always assume religion is bad. Isn't that like some modern tenant to live by?

Fuck swype?

[Rellapse40]

tasslehof confirmed stupid

prob believes in evolution 2

[Daldolma]

You bet your ass when religious indoctrination causes people to end their lives because they can't be who they were born to be I can and will (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown)

wat

indoctrinated or not, suicide is a choice. having your head cut off isn't. that choice makes all the difference.

indoctrination isn't unique to religion. nazis were politically indoctrinated. that doesn't excuse nazi war crimes. we're still talking about adults with moral agency and autonomy

i understand that you're sympathetic to the oppression homosexuals face in america. cool. that's not an especially rare opinion these days. but don't jump the shark. being called a faggot and pushed against lockers sucks and pushes people into depression. it prompts suicides. so does bullying of non-homosexuals. that doesn't make it murder. bullying isn't comparable to being beaten to death for being an infidel

[Glenzig]

Praying for a plague to wipe out everyone on earth who believes in god, heaven, hell, or any other equally retarded shit.


Place would be so much better then

I'm pretty sure you realize the extreme irony in that entire post. I hope.

[Rellapse40]

When we were kids and some faggot picked on you

we would just get a few friends and jump the bitch

kids these days

big ol pussies

[Tasslehofp99]

tasslehof confirmed stupid

prob believes in evolution 2

Sorry that I refuse to believe in some omniscient being in the sky who was invented by men to control less intelligent men :(

Kind of funny to me, in this day in age, that anyone under the age of 35 could really believe in god. I mean did you find out santa wasn't real at age 21 or something? Did the devil put dinosaurs here too?

I mean everyones entitled to their beliefs and such but its quite mind blowing how many people world wide believe in some stupid god or religion.

[Tasslehofp99]

I'm pretty sure you realize the extreme irony in that entire post. I hope.

Ya brother I'm praying to mother earth to wipe out you fucking religious retards with some floods or fire

[DeruIsLove]

wat

indoctrinated or not, suicide is a choice. having your head cut off isn't. that choice makes all the difference.

indoctrination isn't unique to religion. nazis were politically indoctrinated. that doesn't excuse nazi war crimes. we're still talking about adults with moral agency and autonomy

i understand that you're sympathetic to the oppression homosexuals face in america. cool. that's not an especially rare opinion these days. but don't jump the shark. being called a faggot and pushed against lockers sucks and pushes people into depression. it prompts suicides. so does bullying of non-homosexuals. that doesn't make it murder. bullying isn't comparable to being beaten to death for being an infidel

Sorry but I'll have to respectfully disagree. Tormenting a human to the point of wanting to end their own life because the suffering is so unbearable is certainly comparable to murder, the key is to know where to draw the line.

Obviously teasing someone once amounts to next to nothing, but when it happens daily, over a period of months it can be easily argued that is more traumatic than being stabbed. Over years, to the point where someone kills themself? It's not murder technically, but it's so close to that level of wrong that arguing the difference is mere semantics.

[Rellapse40]

got prof ?

would love to see some form of evidence

[Rellapse40]

Ya brother I'm praying to mother earth to wipe out you fucking religious retards with some floods or fire

hopefully mother earth wipes out the narrow minded simpletons like u first tho

[Glenzig]

Ya brother I'm praying to mother earth to wipe out you fucking religious retards with some floods or fire

Ok, so you either don't realize how ironic that statement is, or you just don't grasp the concept of irony.

[Tasslehofp99]

Cleanse them with fiiiire mother earth

[Rellapse40]

he is just a moran

[Glenzig]

he is just a moran

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is a reasonably intelligent person in real life. But this is the internet. It does bad things to people.

[Tasslehofp99]

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is a reasonably intelligent person in real life. But this is the internet. It does bad things to people.

Nah hes right I'm just a moran.


At the very least though, I know god isn't real.

[Daldolma]

Obviously teasing someone once amounts to next to nothing, but when it happens daily, over a period of months it can be easily argued that is more traumatic than being stabbed. Over years, to the point where someone kills themself? It's not murder technically, but it's so close to that level of wrong that arguing the difference is mere semantics.

no

sticks and stones dawg

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

God isn't real, FFs.

[Glenzig]

natural selection / culling of the weak

leads to a population full of hurt vaginas that cry over being offended by inconsequential shit

Wow. So much more enlightened than a religious ideology.

[Nihilist_santa]

Ha natural selection when talking about homosexuality. Sounds like an evolutionary cul de sac not that I buy into such nonsense. No way to pass on those "favorable" traits when you exclude yourself from reproduction.

[MrSparkle001]

natural selection / culling of the weak

leads to a population full of hurt vaginas that cry over being offended by inconsequential shit

Not that bullying should ever be accepted but damn we're raising a generation of pussies. Know what I did to stop bullying against me? Threw one down the stairs at school. Fuck him. It stopped it and I didn't even get in trouble for it, but I'll tell you that's the last time anything ever happened. The next year I was a freshman in high school and made friends with seniors while the former bullies in my class were harassed. It's sort of like prison - you may think yourself a badass out in the world but in prison they'll use that ass as their toy.

This thread reminds of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RLQMDchy9k now by the way. Mark Mark Mark.

[Ahldagor]

sharia extremism to american bullying. way to stay on topic idiots.

[Dragonsblood1987]

Life's not easy when you're an ISIS soldier in northern Iraq. How are you supposed to spread Islam when you only have a limited amount of ammunition? Where can you find affordable sulfuric acid for teaching the insights of the Qur'an to women? How can you keep a straight face when you tell ignorant westerners Islam is a peaceful religion?

But most of all: Where can I find the Allahu Snackbar?

Answers to these questions and more, in this summer's hottest new blockbuster:

Saleel Sawarim: ISIS in Iraq (https://ia801509.us.archive.org/18/items/al_saleel_4/SaleelSawarim.mp4)

(The fun starts at 4:30. NSFW - Parental advisory: Contains graphic acts of Islam)

Coming soon to a mosque near you.

Dont worry, the CIA is making sure they have plenty of ammo.



Then once they become a problem too large for middle eastern governments to deal with, the super world police chic-fil-anal walmart death squads will have a reason to invade, which is what they wanted when they created ISIS.

[Dragonsblood1987]

Ha natural selection when talking about homosexuality. Sounds like an evolutionary cul de sac not that I buy into such nonsense. No way to pass on those "favorable" traits when you exclude yourself from reproduction.

if we didnt evolve (which is to say, that we were divinely created), and homosexuality is a sin, why did god make his only son such a faggot?

[Estolcles]

Dont worry, the CIA is making sure they have plenty of ammo.



Then once they become a problem too large for middle eastern governments to deal with, the super world police chic-fil-anal walmart death squads will have a reason to invade, which is what they wanted when they created ISIS.

Much like they did with the Free Syrian Army.