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Fael
06-19-2014, 10:59 AM
In light of the patent office recent decision to terminate the intellectual property rights of the Washington Redskins franchise, I thought it was interesting that political correctness is alive and well here on P99 as well. Perhaps it is classic (See the Erudite Race).

Anyways, TMO's very own Spaniard VonHammer was informed by Derubael that his name was racist and therefore he must change it. His Shaman alt's name, Hielo Negro, means "Black Ice" Ice spanish, which is the name of a ACDC song. Because Americans still have a lot of guilt over slavery, it is apparently offensive to refer to anything by color. Hence, any use of the word black, brown, yellow, or red for identification of a people group is now considered offensive (even though those people uses it for self-identification).

Derubael apparently has taken it a step further--simply using the spanish form of black in any context whatsoever is racist (because of the history of the spanish form). I'm not sure anyone would claim it offensive if he used the name "Black Ice" for his toon.

That said, it is ironic that because of our fear of offending one group, we are willing to offend another by treating them differently, and refusing to permit them to use a spanish name, where it would be allowed if they used it in the English.

Thoughts?

Argh
06-19-2014, 11:01 AM
They lost the trademark in 1999 too. Shits classic.

Tiggles
06-19-2014, 11:06 AM
It was andro who called deru a racist not the other way around.

Andro has a long history of being a racist piece of shit who will call anyone who disagrees with him a racist. Even if its true in how it went down, naming yourself after an AC/DC song is against the naming convention no matter what language you hide it under.

Andro thinks that if you tell him to speak fucking English in game with 99% English speakers you are a racist for oppressing him. If you try and give him any critism he will turn it into a race/language issue to give him an reason to spout his inane sexual bullshit.

Fael
06-19-2014, 11:07 AM
yes, and it was overturned then...

Glenzig
06-19-2014, 11:07 AM
I'm offended by the term "white knight".

Fael
06-19-2014, 11:09 AM
It was andro who called deru a racist not the other way around.

When adro says "racism" he means "discriminatory." Cut him some slack~

Tiggles
06-19-2014, 11:11 AM
When adro says "racism" he means "discriminatory." Cut him some slack~

Yeah, But you know Andro. You know he went off on a rant on Deru, Dude gets a lot of shit and he doesn't need some filthy Spaniard blowing up his tells.

Fael
06-19-2014, 11:28 AM
Regardless of whatever he said to derubael, the question remains whether the name should be changed.

Now, you say the name policy prevents his name. I agree that it is classic (I had a toon named bomb canada that got removed in live). But my only problem is the reason it was changed was the offensiveness of the name, not its violation of naming policy. And on that note, if we want to change peoples names based on naming policies, then we have a lot of people out there that should have their names changed.

Dolic

Fountree
06-19-2014, 11:31 AM
the age of obama has dawned on p99. What does BET stand for again?

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/irs-lois-lerner-emails-108044.html

Tiggles
06-19-2014, 11:31 AM
Regardless of whatever he said to derubael, the question remains whether the name should be changed.

Now, you say the name policy prevents his name. I agree that it is classic (I had a toon named bomb canada that got removed in live). But my only problem is the reason it was changed was the offensiveness of the name, not its violation of naming policy. And on that note, if we want to change peoples names based on naming policies, then we have a lot of people out there that should have their names changed.

Dolic

I've always been a fan of Fantasy sounding first names and unique sounding last names. Theme names like Andros and Bomb canada should be removed.

The last names can be funny because they can be changed at a whim and no one has to type them in to talk to you. First names should be Fantasy inspired.

Soandso
06-19-2014, 11:38 AM
Would you call a Native American a redskin to his /her face?

Glenzig
06-19-2014, 12:04 PM
Would you call a Native American a redskin to his /her face?

They would probably beat you to it.

Ambrotos
06-19-2014, 12:16 PM
Would you call a Native American a redskin to his /her face?

Sure do. My fathers side loves the redskins. They all come from the blackfoot confederacy. Then again they still think black people are born from buffalo.

Kekephee
06-19-2014, 12:17 PM
In light of the patent office recent decision to terminate the intellectual property rights of the Washington Redskins franchise, I thought it was interesting that political correctness is alive and well here on P99 as well. Perhaps it is classic (See the Erudite Race).

Anyways, TMO's very own Spaniard VonHammer was informed by Derubael that his name was racist and therefore he must change it. His Shaman alt's name, Hielo Negro, means "Black Ice" Ice spanish, which is the name of a ACDC song. Because Americans still have a lot of guilt over slavery, it is apparently offensive to refer to anything by color. Hence, any use of the word black, brown, yellow, or red for identification of a people group is now considered offensive (even though those people uses it for self-identification).

Derubael apparently has taken it a step further--simply using the spanish form of black in any context whatsoever is racist (because of the history of the spanish form). I'm not sure anyone would claim it offensive if he used the name "Black Ice" for his toon.

That said, it is ironic that because of our fear of offending one group, we are willing to offend another by treating them differently, and refusing to permit them to use a spanish name, where it would be allowed if they used it in the English.

Thoughts?


As a matter of fact, America is one of the countries in the world that is least prone to feeling like it's offensive to refer to people as their color. The word "black" in pretty much any language but English is literally a racial slur if you're using it to describe a person. Like when I was in Sweden, I actually got yelled at for referring to someone as "a black guy" even though I was just referring to him as a black guy because he was black, not in any sort of racist way.

Glenzig
06-19-2014, 02:00 PM
Yeah I was wondering the same thing about Tiggles. If that is one of your Characters names, then that kind of goes against your post. Unless its a fantasy reference I just haven't heard of. Definitely possible.

Kekephee
06-19-2014, 02:02 PM
Tiggles Stormborne, the forgotten retarded younger brother of Visaerys and Daenerys who spends all day walking around telling people who don't give a shit lies about how his family is so great they kill dragons just to delete their loot so other people can't get it

myriverse
06-19-2014, 02:05 PM
Any made-up name is fantasy inspired, Tiggles included.

Glenzig
06-19-2014, 02:05 PM
Tiggles Stormborne, the forgotten retarded younger brother of Visaerys and Daenerys who spends all day walking around telling people who don't give a shit lies about how his family is so great they kill dragons just to delete their loot so other people can't get it

Franks and beans!!!

Arteker
06-19-2014, 02:30 PM
It was andro who called deru a racist not the other way around.

Andro has a long history of being a racist piece of shit who will call anyone who disagrees with him a racist. Even if its true in how it went down, naming yourself after an AC/DC song is against the naming convention no matter what language you hide it under.

Andro thinks that if you tell him to speak fucking English in game with 99% English speakers you are a racist for oppressing him. If you try and give him any critism he will turn it into a race/language issue to give him an reason to spout his inane sexual bullshit.

the pokemon shit speaks of racism.

some lesson of history.

pre epics the pokemon lord himself , loged out months after ghost rigth when epics launched, he was not even level 60 and asked me for help.

When i denied him help he assaulted me calling me dirty euro scum mexican piece of shit , case solved.


usualy im not into bash or screw other players but im going to make a exception in this case.

Quickfingers , you are the biggest piece of fat ugly shit i have see in 4 years on project 1999.

you are not just a cheater wich was even power leveled by his buddy then gm drunk power uthgard in hs , and given epic pieces pre they were even in game.


You not just dated amelinda but from i heard u even touched her son , crongratulations pedophile.

You are so fucked up u posted in old tmo boards photos of one of you chubby gf being waxed alive managing to disgust every female member of the old tmo.

You creeped badly the old tmo player ayrean .

You have costed ur guild a raid suspension for being a inept faggot wich cannot even play a rogue because u got humillated even by alts. or even sks .

You only pop in tmo Boards to bring shit and screw the actualy playing members of the very same guild you joined to spy searching cheaters. soemthing did not work very well .


Anjd finnaly congrutaltions man u have the ugliest retarded voice in whole tmo vent and me and others will ever remember the nigth Knix made u cry in anguish: i only been loyal u fucking c.... insult by sobbering retarded pokemon fan boy .


Ah for the rnf crew. Its official yes QF have a micro penis issue, he was enough stupid to post that shit in old tmo forums.

Kekephee
06-19-2014, 02:41 PM
You are so fucked up u posted in old tmo boards photos of one of you chubby gf being waxed alive managing to disgust every female member of the old tmo.

Not trying to be mean or insulting, I understand English isn't your first language so I was hoping you could explain what you mean by "waxed alive." Are you referring to like, spa waxing, where they yank peoples' pubic hair out?

Arteker
06-19-2014, 02:50 PM
Not trying to be mean or insulting, I understand English isn't your first language so I was hoping you could explain what you mean by "waxed alive." Are you referring to like, spa waxing, where they yank peoples' pubic hair out?

he posted half dozen of photos of one of his S/M seasons, he explained he wanted to test wax, and his wanna be gf wanted to be punished so good ole tiggles have not better idea to no play with abit of wax but burn her whole body, face legs breasts ass.

some of these burns where 2 degree .

Kekephee
06-19-2014, 02:55 PM
he posted half dozen of photos of one of his S/M seasons, he explained he wanted to test wax, and his wanna be gf wanted to be punished so good ole tiggles have not better idea to no play with abit of wax but burn her whole body, face legs breasts ass.

some of these burns where 2 degree .

And he posted these pictures on the TMO Everquest computer game guild's message board? Was there any context to this? Like, had someone already made a "post pictures of incredibly personal sex shit" thread for adult guild members to view and post in at their discretion? Or was it like, hey guys PD will be up tomorrow we should kill her LOOK WHAT I DID EVERYBODY

Ambrotos
06-19-2014, 02:57 PM
When i denied him help he assaulted me calling me dirty euro scum mexican piece of shit , case solved.

I didn't know Europe had a Mexican problem.

Arteker
06-19-2014, 03:10 PM
I didn't know Europe had a Mexican problem.

in his retarded pokemon mind it seems so . but again im the racist in his opinion because i got angry when i got called mexican . wich im not im not going around making jokes about other people ethnic or nation yet he liked such term alot.

Glenzig
06-19-2014, 03:18 PM
Tiggles isn't a made up name.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tiggles

Looks like a name change is forthcoming.

Arteker
06-19-2014, 04:17 PM
And he posted these pictures on the TMO Everquest computer game guild's message board? Was there any context to this? Like, had someone already made a "post pictures of incredibly personal sex shit" thread for adult guild members to view and post in at their discretion? Or was it like, hey guys PD will be up tomorrow we should kill her LOOK WHAT I DID EVERYBODY

he doesnt raid , usualy when he try to play p99 we end suspended or fucked up by his stupiditys,
see his last trakanon.

Kekephee
06-19-2014, 04:42 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaamn

Rararboker
06-19-2014, 05:15 PM
I'm offended by the term "white knight".

Ele
06-19-2014, 05:27 PM
Appropriate Key & Peele:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efiW2K8gASM

http://i.imgur.com/JcIWcDk.jpg

Argh
06-19-2014, 05:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/JcIWcDk.jpg

Best Martin Lawrence movie.

Kekephee
06-19-2014, 05:29 PM
http://darwinelijah.com/misc/omgracist.jpg

Tiggles
06-19-2014, 05:32 PM
Can any translate that pile of upster spanaird for me?

I can never understand him.

Anyways looks like derubael griefed him off the server so looks like all is good.

Portasaurus
06-19-2014, 05:32 PM
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Ching_5d6149_342552.png

Arteker
06-19-2014, 05:49 PM
Can any translate that pile of upster spanaird for me?

I can never understand him.

Anyways looks like derubael griefed him off the server so looks like all is good.

typical shit to derail the truth, u play to much in rnf little in game , pokemon man

Kekephee
06-19-2014, 06:19 PM
Can any translate that pile of upster spanaird for me?

I can never understand him.

Anyways looks like derubael griefed him off the server so looks like all is good.



I can translate, my dad is Puerto Rican so I'm really good at piecing these things together.

The short version is he accused you of being, in order of least big deal to most big deal, a poor player whose ineptitude not only caused him to be embarrassed and outdamaged by alts and shadowknights, but caused his guild (which he joined initially to spy on and rat out) to eat a raid suspension, a cheater who was handed a level 60 character and epic pieces that weren't yet in the game by a corrupt GM, a creep who put a bunch of pictures of his fat girlfriend getting burned with wax in a BDSM sex experiment up on the guild boards and disgusted every female in the guild, and potentially a pedophile who molested Amelinda's son. And there was something about making some guy named Ayrean uncomfortable, I don't know who that is.


Some pretty serious accusations here, Tiggles, I would be really interested to see you actually respond to any of them. I especially want to know more about this fat chick's tits getting 2nd degree burns from hot wax

Kekephee
06-19-2014, 06:27 PM
Oh, and he said that your beef with each other goes back to you asking him for help for your epic, him saying no, and you dropping racist bombs and raging out. I forgot to translate that.

Fountree
06-19-2014, 06:37 PM
I'd take Vonhammer over Tiggles for dream team TMO any day of the week. QF worthless... my 3rd alt regularly stomped ur ass in vp dps.

Kekephee
06-19-2014, 06:38 PM
Who is Vonhammer? Inquiring minds kind of care enough to ask

Ele
06-19-2014, 06:43 PM
Who is Vonhammer? Inquiring minds kind of care enough to ask

Arteker's main. The antithesis of Xadion.

radditsu
06-19-2014, 06:47 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yRVMFZNadlo/UtGAVDPqUbI/AAAAAAABEAI/d_Mz50rHEFI/s1600/Green+Lantern+Green+Arrow+skins+lecture.png

Arteker
06-19-2014, 06:55 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yRVMFZNadlo/UtGAVDPqUbI/AAAAAAABEAI/d_Mz50rHEFI/s1600/Green+Lantern+Green+Arrow+skins+lecture.png

im more like guy gardnerr and yes elethis is my own batman

radditsu
06-19-2014, 07:06 PM
im more like guy gardnerr and yes elethis is my own batman

Kyle rayner was the best. Guy gardner I liked cause Batman cold knocked his ass out. He also was great when he was Guy Gardner: Warrior
The honor guard era was cool too.


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k214/sallyp617/Guy%20Pictures/onepunchguy.jpg

http://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/INT_JLI_punch2.jpg