Tinfoiltainment

[Fountree]

Its starting to get boring this afternoon - reposting from server chat for the RNF masses

Join us tonight on Sirken's Steam @ http://www.twitch.tv/sirkenp99 for a special discussion with special guest star... ME!.

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We hope to see you all tonight as this will be a fun experience for everyone involved.

[Uuruk]

Maybe we can discuss why tmo members can train people unpunished.

[sanforce]

Maybe we can discuss why tmo members can train people unpunished.

wow. u guys are so absolutely fucking retarded today.

TMO was suspended from fear for 5 days, starting when the words came out of my mouth. this isnt high school where we suspend the bad kids around their basketball schedule

dinacarl was also given 2 weeks off (starting at the same time ~9pmest last night)

considering it involved 0 raids mobs, considering it cost people 0 raid mobs, and considering 0 raid mobs were in window, kind of hard to justify a full raid suspension.

the ONLY reason TMO was suspended at all (as opposed to just the player dinacarl) is because we expect more out of the class C guilds (in regards to raid knowledge as well as controlling their members, and both class C guilds have been told this in the past, they need to lead by example and control their members).

[Hitpoint]

Maybe we can discuss why tmo members can train people unpunished.

I guess you didn't hear the news.

[Tiggles]

Maybe we can discuss why tmo members can train people unpunished.

I'll talk about it all.

Unbrella, RMT,Training

Tune in.

[Susvain2]

I guess you didn't hear the news.

tell us plebs the news. i dont see it anywhere

[Susvain2]

found it !

[Aviann]

TMO doesn't even need fear. Suspend them from all of it.

[Tiggles]

TMO doesn't even need fear. Suspend them from all of it.

I'd farm Fear every day if it meant griefing you off the server.

[Clasick]

TMO are just the same assholes they were before the new management.
You just have to look how their members represent the guild, in game, on the forums, by their actions, training, OOC shit talk, Tiggles........
Well I guess the only difference is a lot of new faggots were obtained by the FE merger, adding to the overall guild faggotry (just read the toxic posts from former FE members)

TMO management has sent a clear message that any wrong doing by TMO is and always will be an individual acting alone.
The guild takes zero responsibility for their members or actions and does not see it represents the guild as a whole.
You want to be “The Mighty TMO, Premier raiding guild” nut up and take responsibility for your so called “Premier raiding guild” members.
You want people to respect the new TMO stop carrying on acting like a bunch of asshats that play both ends against the middle.

You whole “We removed his guild tag” but he’s still playing with the guild, camping out in VP, guilded alts etc. was such a transparent bullshit move to divert attention from punishment. Like why even throw out that you kicked him from the guild when you has no intention of kicking him from the guild.
More deflection

/engage TMO spin machine bullshit

“Premiere Guild” just LOL

[sanforce]

/engage same ol anti TMO bullshit

TMO are just the same assholes they were before the new management.
You just have to look how their members represent the guild, in game, on the forums, by their actions, training, OOC shit talk, Tiggles........
Well I guess the only difference is a lot of new faggots were obtained by the FE merger, adding to the overall guild faggotry (just read the toxic posts from former FE members)

TMO management has sent a clear message that any wrong doing by TMO is and always will be an individual acting alone.
The guild takes zero responsibility for their members or actions and does not see it represents the guild as a whole.
You want to be “The Mighty TMO, Premier raiding guild” nut up and take responsibility for your so called “Premier raiding guild” members.
You want people to respect the new TMO stop carrying on acting like a bunch of asshats that play both ends against the middle.

You whole “We removed his guild tag” but he’s still playing with the guild, camping out in VP, guilded alts etc. was such a transparent bullshit move to divert attention from punishment. Like why even throw out that you kicked him from the guild when you has no intention of kicking him from the guild.
More deflection

/engage TMO spin machine bullshit

“Premiere Guild” just LOL

TMO doesn't care about your opinion on the matter. But, please carry on, I'm glad you are so absorbed in how we handle things.

[iruinedyourday]

I guess the only difference is a lot of new faggots were obtained by the FE mer...


ohhh kay you're definitely not worth listening to for any reason.

[Clasick]

Just a little friendly advice for the “Premiere Guild”

how their members represent the guild

<3

[JayN]

TMO KILLS BABIES!

[Clasick]

JayN Is clearly the best PR representivtive for you guild

Hes allways so insightfull and full of meaningfull and constructive comments to our comunity forums

[Glenzig]

TMO KILLS BABIES!

They don't kill babies dude. That would be merciful. They eat them alive so they can hear their screams. Its what gives Unbrella and Tiggles their power.

[radditsu]

I am throbbing with anticipation.

[JayN]

They don't kill babies dude. That would be merciful. They eat them alive so they can hear their screams. Its what gives Unbrella and Tiggles their power.

apologize im not up to date on current TMO etiquette! I only truly represent myself on here.

Afk calling in a hit train!

[YendorLootmonkey]

TMO KILLS BABIES!

No, they deny babies their nourishment by monopolizing all of the lactating teats, and then get enraged when the teats are organized into different classes and the babies work out a teat rotation.

Teats.

[sanforce]

You should have to compete for those teats and the milk they provide.

This current "teats for all" setup is bullshit!

[Glenzig]

WTS Teat Milk 250k

[Portasaurus]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Aviann]

I'd farm Fear every day if it meant griefing you off the server.

It will never be done. Maybe you should go back into hiding until the next time TMO fucks everything up again.

[Sorock]

/engage same ol anti TMO bullshit



TMO doesn't care about your opinion on the matter. But, please carry on, I'm glad you are so absorbed in how we handle things.

This is what hits home for me.

What I loved best about EQ when I played it way back in the day was that every guild that I ever interacted with on Tunare; via Tunare Guild Alliance, Order of the Ravenclaw, Assembly of Norrath, Valiant Spirit, etc.. is the exact opposite of the stance stated above.

Guilds, in general, did care about what/how the community thought of them. This is not even directed towards TMO, you see it even in plenty of other guilds' and unguilded people's attitude just the same...

I get that this box and the current state of the raid scene, etc.., is a decent part of the reason for the decline of the culture, but ultimately, the cutlure is shaped by individuals and their decisions they make on how they treat each other.

That is the disappointing part. I guess back then it was so new and the player base had not been through all of the other MMORPS and such, and literally the internet was no where near the asshattery that it is today either, we all were bound together in the fantasy and fun.

Damn, guess I am old, and yearning for the good old days.

I will say that despite all that is seen in RNF forums, I can still log in each evening and meet some really nice, honorable, friendly people. Hope that never changes!

[sanforce]

This is what hits home for me.

What I loved best about EQ when I played it way back in the day was that every guild that I ever interacted with on Tunare; via Tunare Guild Alliance, Order of the Ravenclaw, Assembly of Norrath, Valiant Spirit, etc.. is the exact opposite of the stance stated above.

Guilds, in general, did care about what/how the community thought of them. This is not even directed towards TMO, you see it even in plenty of other guilds' and unguilded people's attitude just the same...

I get that this box and the current state of the raid scene, etc.., is a decent part of the reason for the decline of the culture, but ultimately, the cutlure is shaped by individuals and their decisions they make on how they treat each other.

That is the disappointing part. I guess back then it was so new and the player base had not been through all of the other MMORPS and such, and literally the internet was no where near the asshattery that it is today either, we all were bound together in the fantasy and fun.

Damn, guess I am old, and yearning for the good old days.

I will say that despite all that is seen in RNF forums, I can still log in each evening and meet some really nice, honorable, friendly people. Hope that never changes!

To be clear, TMO does not condone training or general asshatery that puts the guild in a bad light. But, Dinacarl has already been through the RNF wringer for his actions, and has now been punished by the staff accordingly. Hopefully he and others have learned a valuable lesson from this experience - it's never OK to train another guild (unless the zone is no-CSR, but that's a different discussion for another time). My original comment "TMO doesn't care about your opinion on the matter", is more from a moving forward perspective. Random people calling for blood in RNF will not decide his fate as a TMO member - that's up to member opinions and the officers final decision on the matter. I, for one, don't think he should be permanently kicked for messing up once.

[Ungriim]

Can I join you Tiggles?

[Clasick]

TMO doesn't care about your opinion on the matter

So there you have it, TMO does not care what's thought of them.
Oh wait, your back peddeling. Now you do care what the sever thinks of your guild ?

What is it
You care or you don't care.

I've kicked people from guild for training or harassing other players never to be invited again. I guess the diffrence Is I see it as a reflection on my guild; don't want to be guilded with douches that drag the guild name through the mud.

[radditsu]

Motherfuckers should have learned by now they only care when they need bodies to fill the swarm. FE sold out. Fuck yall

[Aviann]

Motherfuckers should have learned by now they only care when they need bodies to fill the swarm. FE sold out. Fuck yall

Truth, and no offense to Lazie, but I remember when you were the 'FUCK TMO BULLSHIT/FE Embodiment'. This new you... I loved you, and you broke my heart.

[DeruIsLove]

I'd farm Fear every day if it meant griefing you off the server.



TMO doesn't care about your opinion on the matter.

Not self absorbed greedy pieces of shit at all... not one bit.

[Aviann]

Not self absorbed greedy pieces of shit at all... not one bit.

Let's take another look today at how much of a piece of shit Tiggles is. Necroooo