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doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 11:22 AM
HAY GUYS!

I heard TMO trained Taken and BDA today at VS!

Also heard the zone crashed randomly when BDA was first about to engage!

Will TMO also eat a raid suspension or will they give Sirken the handjob of his life to avoid one???

Azure Guard gets suspended for helping.
IB gets suspended for KSing twice.
Dojo gets suspended for being idiots.
TMO guilty of training multiple times caught on fraps gets free two weeks of uncontested loots.

Stay tuned.

Man0warr
05-31-2014, 11:27 AM
The zone crashing right after Yibz trained us was pretty sketch.

doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 11:29 AM
It was so sketch its crazy!!!! Only like 50 people in zone, too!

ODD!!!

Swish
05-31-2014, 11:31 AM
I heard this, I heard that

Screenshots? Got prof?

fishingme
05-31-2014, 11:31 AM
Tmo trains everyone all the time at vs.

Mezzmur
05-31-2014, 11:31 AM
Desync.

doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 11:33 AM
Deync with 50 people so weird.

Ravager
05-31-2014, 11:34 AM
Packets?

Man0warr
05-31-2014, 11:34 AM
Desync.

Wasn't a desynch, was able to get back into the zone right away, didn't have to wait for character to get booted like during a desynch.

Screenshots? Got prof?

There's Fraps, why do you think TMO backed off?

doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 11:35 AM
Packets?

OHHHHH I C

Lazie
05-31-2014, 11:36 AM
I'd blame a desync too if my guild wiped on a conceded VS with over 20 people.

Socratic
05-31-2014, 11:36 AM
Someone brought adds to pit? No way.

Youlath
05-31-2014, 11:37 AM
aliens?

Adanos
05-31-2014, 11:39 AM
I apparently trained a ranger that took it very hard. But VS was dead at that point.

doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 11:39 AM
I'd blame a desync too if my guild wiped on a conceded VS with over 20 people.

Your guild claimed desync NERD

Man0warr
05-31-2014, 11:40 AM
I'd blame a desync too if my guild wiped on a conceded VS with over 20 people.

No one is blaming desynch for a wipe because 1) it wasn't a desynch and 2) that was well before our first attempt.

Lazie
05-31-2014, 11:42 AM
No one is blaming desynch for a wipe because 1) it wasn't a desynch and 2) that was well before our first attempt.

So a clear pit and you wiped with 4 groups care to respond ?

doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 11:42 AM
Care to respond to sucking Sirken's D?

khanable
05-31-2014, 11:44 AM
tmo apologized/removed themselves from the fight

for what it is worth

Lazie
05-31-2014, 11:44 AM
Care to respond to sucking Sirken's D?

We conceded the mob after our tracker trained Taken's on accident.

Socratic
05-31-2014, 11:50 AM
tmo apologized/removed themselves from the fight

for what it is worth

It's worth nothing apparently, lol. Class R is angry even when we give up a mob because of our own stupidity.

doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 11:51 AM
We conceded the mob after our tracker trained Taken's on accident.

Azure Guard didn't have malicious intent but got suspended.
IB tried to work it out but got suspended anyway.

TMO ??

Stay tuned

doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 11:55 AM
It's worth nothing apparently, lol. Class R is angry even when we give up a mob because of our own stupidity.

Sounds familiar

Troubled
05-31-2014, 12:04 PM
It's worth nothing apparently, lol. Class R is angry even when we give up a mob because of our own stupidity.

I can't stay mad at you bb.

Man0warr
05-31-2014, 12:05 PM
It's worth nothing apparently, lol. Class R is angry even when we give up a mob because of our own stupidity.

BDA isn't angry, the guy that posted this thread is probably IB.

Socratic
05-31-2014, 12:07 PM
BDA isn't angry, the guy that posted this thread is probably IB.

Prob true.

Tasslehofp99
05-31-2014, 12:09 PM
BDA isn't angry, the guy that posted this thread is probably IB.

ya lol

Derubael
05-31-2014, 12:49 PM
I thought IB wasn't supposed to post in RnF, or is it cool if it's an anon account?

jaybone
05-31-2014, 01:00 PM
We conceded the mob after our tracker trained Taken's on accident.

Oh sorry officer I accidentally shot that man. I'll leave now.

Hitpoint
05-31-2014, 01:07 PM
Our tracker accidentally trained the Taken tracker before VS even spawned. While we were working on rezing him, VS poped. So we conceded the mob. Nothing to see here.

khanable
05-31-2014, 01:09 PM
Our tracker accidentally trained the Taken tracker before VS even spawned. While we were working on rezing him, VS poped. So we conceded the mob. Nothing to see here.

you left out the part about skinning puppies and denying hungry children food

convenient

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 01:10 PM
Our tracker accidentally trained the Taken tracker before VS even spawned. While we were working on rezing him, VS poped. So we conceded the mob. Nothing to see here.

except training. Bannable offense.

Hitpoint
05-31-2014, 01:15 PM
except training. Bannable offense.

I don't think accidentally training someone in KC is bannable. Or else 80% of KC would be banned on a daily basis.

Frieza_Prexus
05-31-2014, 01:18 PM
except training. Bannable offense.

When done intentionally, yes. P99 has a long history of meting out different punishments based on intentional versus non-intentional actions. The standard practice in situations like this has been forfeiture of the mob which is what happened.

Try harder.

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 01:20 PM
So, if i'm in zone and i "accidently" train a raid its cool? I remember when you guys cried because someones train social aggroed you in fear. Well played.

quido
05-31-2014, 01:21 PM
Scrubs out for blood despite TMO doing the right thing

Good luck

Hitpoint
05-31-2014, 01:23 PM
So, if i'm in zone and i "accidently" train a raid its cool? I remember when you guys cried because someones train social aggroed you in fear. Well played.

No, it's not cool. You'd be asked to concede the mob if the guild wiped, and concede next weeks mob if they don't wipe. It's over with.

What was the punishment they received for that social agro in fear? Nothing right? I don't have a clue what incident you're talking about and I still know the answer.

Joyelle
05-31-2014, 01:25 PM
Train looked intentional on the fraps we have of it. You have to be pretty fucking derpy to think there's not going to be a tracker sitting there while VS is in window. To bring that large of a train of undeads and then sit down to aggro the ones in VS's room before you FD looks pretty shady on this side of things.

quido
05-31-2014, 01:27 PM
let's see the fraps

Hitpoint
05-31-2014, 01:28 PM
Train looked intentional on the fraps we have of it. You have to be pretty fucking derpy to think there's not going to be a tracker sitting there while VS is in window. To bring that large of a train of undeads and then sit down to aggro the ones in VS's room before you FD looks pretty shady on this side of things.

Yea we're trying to train class R trackers on purpose. Especially now.

quido
05-31-2014, 01:28 PM
Train looked intentional on the fraps we have of it. You have to be pretty fucking derpy to think there's not going to be a tracker sitting there while VS is in window. To bring that large of a train of undeads and then sit down to aggro the ones in VS's room before you FD looks pretty shady on this side of things.

You don't have to sit to aggro already-engaged undeads.

Joyelle
05-31-2014, 01:29 PM
either that or you just have a retarded monk

Susano
05-31-2014, 01:30 PM
I thought IB wasn't supposed to post in RnF, or is it cool if it's an anon account?

Clearly the only responsible thing to do is link these IB posters to their anon accounts so the officers will know of the dissent in their own ranks.

Clark
05-31-2014, 01:31 PM
Clearly the only responsible thing to do is link these IB posters to their anon accounts so the officers will know of the dissent in their own ranks.

Lol

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 01:31 PM
Yea we're trying to train class R trackers on purpose. Especially now.

proof ^

Joyelle
05-31-2014, 01:32 PM
You don't have to sit to aggro already-engaged undeads.

The ones that were sit-aggroed were the 2 that spawn right next to VS. They were unengaged until the monk trained in and sat down right at VS's door. Stop being an idiot. And I'm not going to link the fraps because it isn't mine to link. I'm sure if the owner wants it public he will link it himself.

quido
05-31-2014, 01:34 PM
You're a very rude little kitty.

Socratic
05-31-2014, 01:37 PM
either that or you just have a retarded monk

100% this.

Splorf22
05-31-2014, 01:42 PM
does shinko have a monk

hatelore
05-31-2014, 01:45 PM
I thought IB wasn't supposed to post in RnF, or is it cool if it's an anon account?

I thought you were a guide?

Frieza_Prexus
05-31-2014, 01:52 PM
So, if i'm in zone and i "accidently" train a raid its cool?

No, it's not "cool." You'll face the consequence of your negligence. Generally, that entails forfeiture of the mob. Sound familiar?

khanable
05-31-2014, 01:53 PM
Yea we're trying to train class R trackers on purpose. Especially now.

dolj is almost 3 weeks old, gotta keep these uppity R fucks in line yo

Lazie
05-31-2014, 01:54 PM
I mean I don't understand the anger from the anon troll. We could have easily killed VS 3 times while BDA was struggling with it. We knew we had no rights to it once we found out what happened with the monk and backed off.

Hitpoint
05-31-2014, 01:55 PM
I mean I don't understand the anger from the anon troll. We could have easily killed VS 3 times while BDA was struggling with it. We knew we had no rights to it once we found out what happened with the monk and backed off.

Well, he isn't a BDA or Taken member imo...

Lazie
05-31-2014, 01:56 PM
Well, he isn't a BDA or Taken member imo...

Indeed.

Troubled
05-31-2014, 01:58 PM
I mean I don't understand the anger from the anon troll. We could have easily killed VS 3 times while BDA was struggling with it. We knew we had no rights to it once we found out what happened with the monk and backed off.

Aka nothing to see here. Training and conceding wasn't their go-to strat. Why is this thread here? Guilds working things out amongst themselves is the preferred method, not Gm intervention.

Funkutron5000
05-31-2014, 02:01 PM
Damnit, Troubledour. This is RnF. This is not the place for reason and understanding! Get your hate on, son.

quido
05-31-2014, 02:03 PM
You're all nincompoops

Tiggles
05-31-2014, 02:07 PM
I thought IB wasn't supposed to post in RnF, or is it cool if it's an anon account?

Name and shame

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 02:08 PM
Name and shame

Only after we name and shame all the TMO accounts that were banned/suspended in December.

Lazie
05-31-2014, 02:10 PM
Train looked intentional on the fraps we have of it. You have to be pretty fucking derpy to think there's not going to be a tracker sitting there while VS is in window. To bring that large of a train of undeads and then sit down to aggro the ones in VS's room before you FD looks pretty shady on this side of things.

I will respond to this. We are trying to make it all ranger track to avoid some of these issues. It seems like 90% of the issues we run into is trackers on the spawn ready to engage.

-Someone loses FTE and complains because a tracker didn't have a guild tag.
-Someone loses FTE and complains about Autofire.
-One tracker moving into track accidentally trains trackers already there.
-Some guilds complain that the method of engaging and pulling mobs as soon as they spawn are retarded to the point they want FFA mobs removed.

I mean let's just make the change to Ranger trackers with no one in the zone at the time it spawns able to pull or engage the mobs. I think it would get you guys more FFA mobs in the long run and it saves me from having to spam a target button. Win win.

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 02:11 PM
Lazie non factor

Derubael
05-31-2014, 02:11 PM
I thought you were a guide?

GM since January.

Lazie
05-31-2014, 02:11 PM
Only after we name and shame all the TMO accounts that were banned/suspended in December.

Be a man and post under your character's name. Don't hide your opinions behind an anon account.

Lazie
05-31-2014, 02:12 PM
Layze non factor

Fixed that for ya.

Ella`Ella
05-31-2014, 02:37 PM
TMO forfeits mob, IB still suspended. More news to come!

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 02:39 PM
Fixed that for ya.

http://i.imgur.com/y04FN5N.gif

quido
05-31-2014, 02:40 PM
Who are you?

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 02:53 PM
Hahah some mad IB in here. Guess theres nothing better for them to do right now tho. They could at least not be little bitches and post under non anon troll accounts.

Id be pissed too tho if my leadership put me in a position where I cant raid for two weeks because they think theyre above the rules. Maybe theyll learn how to communicate and admit wrong doing, but I doubt it. If you wanna raid without worrying about being suspended two weeks, apply here: www.tmoguild.o

lilyanna
05-31-2014, 02:56 PM
Maybe you will learn to communicate properly and put a proper link to your forum :)

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 02:58 PM
Yea cause thats the most important thing to pick out of my post haha. Another clear cut case of bad leadership. Let me fix it for you: www.tmoguild.org

lilyanna
05-31-2014, 03:01 PM
Bad leadership because I pointed out you can't remember the website address of your own guild.. lol :) Thanks for the giggle.

Fountree
05-31-2014, 03:06 PM
Detoxx: I'm the motherfuckin fuckin one who calls the shots

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 03:08 PM
Poor leadership because youre too retarded to realize the difference between a typo and "not remembering my guilds wesite" kind of like not IB "not knowing who has fte x2 and getting suspended".

quido
05-31-2014, 03:10 PM
good Tony Soprano quote

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 03:10 PM
Fountree: I'm a non-factor now and always have been

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 03:12 PM
good Tony Soprano quote
Damn straight! Apparently some people dont understand what quotation marks actually mean

Fountree
05-31-2014, 03:14 PM
Detoxx confirmed large factor in TMOs success

lilyanna
05-31-2014, 03:14 PM
Life skills > EQ.. work it out for yourself ;) I guess I'm just not as immersed as you.. poor me!

Daldaen
05-31-2014, 03:14 PM
Accidently train a guild
???
Use post highlighting your training of a guild as a recruiting platform
Profit

Nice.

Thulack
05-31-2014, 03:16 PM
Accidently train a guild
???
Use post highlighting your training of a guild as a recruiting platform
Profit

Nice.

Sounds like TMO and Lord Bob should chat.

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 03:18 PM
Tony Soprano checks Richie Aprile. RIP James Gand…: http://youtu.be/uwbKTwW6tGU

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 03:21 PM
I know this might be hard to understand but the point was we fucked up, we knew it and we conceded the mob rather than playing stupid or blaming it on a non guild tagged fte'er.

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 03:22 PM
Accidently train a guild
???
Use post highlighting your training of a guild as a recruiting platform
Profit

Nice.

who r u

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 03:26 PM
I thought IB wasn't supposed to post in RnF, or is it cool if it's an anon account?

IP track, see which account / chars, name and shame.

NAME AND SHAME! :3

Daldaen
05-31-2014, 03:28 PM
who r u

Seeker of Classic EverQuest.
Player of best class in game.
Distributor of Druid Epics
Crafter of Rain Callers

That, is who I am.

Thulack
05-31-2014, 03:36 PM
I know this might be hard to understand but the point was we fucked up, we knew it and we conceded the mob rather than playing stupid or blaming it on a non guild tagged fte'er.

Doesn't mean you still don't deserve to be punished as more "accidental" things have happened and guilds gotten punished for them. Your not special....Well in the way you would like to be atleast.

Hitpoint
05-31-2014, 03:38 PM
Doesn't mean you still don't deserve to be punished as more "accidental" things have happened and guilds gotten punished for them. Your not special....Well in the way you would like to be atleast.

We were punished, obviously.

Thulack
05-31-2014, 03:43 PM
We were punished, obviously.

This was a Class C mob where you can train the other guy and say "oh well you can take since we ruined your day" There is more then 2 guilds that were competing in this instance. A week should be your punishment not 1 mob for you to sell MQ's from the loot of.

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 03:44 PM
Dont bother hitpoint, he just mad. The GMs want exactly what happened today to be how this shit is handled, but fails to realize that us conceding the mob makes it so no GM intervention is needed. Its when people refuse to admit they were wrong, kill the mob and say fuck you is when GMs are needed

Thulack
05-31-2014, 03:44 PM
wasn't*

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 03:47 PM
Dont bother hitpoint, he just mad. The GMs want exactly what happened today to be how this shit is handled, but fails to realize that us conceding the mob makes it so no GM intervention is needed. Its when people refuse to admit they were wrong, kill the mob and say fuck you is when GMs are needed

So does this mean i can train people as long as i say sorry after? No GM intervention needed bros i said sorrys.

Thulack
05-31-2014, 03:47 PM
Personally yes i am mad i have to play a game i like with a bunch of dbags like you that aren't mature enough to just enjoy the game with everyone and let them have equal chance. It's like how i feel sorry for the trolls on this forum that need to post here to get the attention that they lacked as children.

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 03:48 PM
Doesn't mean you still don't deserve to be punished as more "accidental" things have happened and guilds gotten punished for them. Your not special....Well in the way you would like to be atleast.

Name one that was beyond a mob conceding please. Genuinely curious.

Thulack
05-31-2014, 03:50 PM
Name one that was beyond a mob conceding please. Genuinely curious.

AG got suspended for a "accident". Accident's happen yes but they should still be punished if other accident's are aswell.

Hitpoint
05-31-2014, 03:51 PM
So does this mean i can train people as long as i say sorry after? No GM intervention needed bros i said sorrys.

If you give up a raid mob then yes. Train away.

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 03:51 PM
So does this mean i can train people as long as i say sorry after? No GM intervention needed bros i said sorrys.

Are you fucking retarded? Srs question

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 03:54 PM
Are you fucking retarded? Srs question

I can admit i was wrong though man. Was an accident i promise!

Emsee
05-31-2014, 03:55 PM
AG got suspended for a "accident". Accident's happen yes but they should still be punished if other accident's are aswell.

You really are a stupid fuck if you think in any way, shape, or form that those 2 incidents are related. AG was told why the GM's felt that they had to push the suspension even if the other R's didn't care. They accepted their punishment and moved on. Had they realized the mistake and left without an engage, maybe you could try to intertwine these issues. As it stands, playing stupid is about all you have.

JayN
05-31-2014, 03:56 PM
Are you fucking retarded? Srs question

Shouldnt give tards such a bad name by association

Hitpoint
05-31-2014, 03:56 PM
This was a Class C mob where you can train the other guy and say "oh well you can take since we ruined your day" There is more then 2 guilds that were competing in this instance. A week should be your punishment not 1 mob for you to sell MQ's from the loot of.

We conceded to both class R guilds. What's the problem?

This was a tracker train at VS pit. It happens 10x during every VS window and doesn't even get petitioned. The only reason anything came of this at all, is that VS happened to spawn before our cleric could rez him. You're asking an awful lot for an accidental train which occurred while VS wasn't even up.

Frieza_Prexus
05-31-2014, 03:57 PM
This wasn't a Class C mob where you can train the other guy and say "oh well you can take since we ruined your day" There is more then 2 guilds that were competing in this instance. A week should be your punishment not 1 mob for you to sell MQ's from the loot of.

The ultimate punishment is solely in the hands of the staff. Our suppositions that we've resolved the matter are based off of historical precedent.

Consider the facts: BDA's tracker was trained "accidentally," and only while he was being CR'd with the assistance of TMO did VS spawn. Had VS not spawned and TMO CR'd him, any harm done would have been ameliorated and the tracker would be in the exact same position he was before the train. However, VS did spawn, and TMO conceded. BDA took the kill and ended up in the same best case position they could have been in had TMO never showed up. Any damage caused was fully mitigated. If someone punches you in the arm, you don't get to sue him because he "could have" broken your arm; you take him for the damages he actually caused.

The only open left is whether or not the train was intentional. Given that the trainer was helping CR, I think it's more likely than not that he's innocent of malicious conduct.

Any comparisons with Azure Guard's situations are tenuous at best; however, I do feel that AG's punishment, while understandable, was far too strict given the overall sentiment of support throughout Class R.

Thulack
05-31-2014, 04:01 PM
You really are a stupid fuck if you think in any way, shape, or form that those 2 incidents are related. AG was told why the GM's felt that they had to push the suspension even if the other R's didn't care. They accepted their punishment and moved on. Had they realized the mistake and left without an engage, maybe you could try to intertwine these issues. As it stands, playing stupid is about all you have.

Never said they were related. Said both of them were both accidents. AG gave their reasoning and everyone but the GM's agreed it was a accident. Still got suspended. TMO trains. They give their reasoning some people agree it was a accident. Not suspended. And TMO's "well we didnt get loot and conceded it" AG didnt get loot from it either and if given the chance would have conceded too. But no keep going on with "we can screw a guild and say sorry and its ok".

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 04:02 PM
Never said they were related. Said both of them were both accidents. AG gave their reasoning and everyone but the GM's agreed it was a accident. Still got suspended. TMO trains. They give their reasoning some people agree it was a accident. Not suspended. And TMO's "well we didnt get loot and conceded it" AG didnt get loot from it either and if given the chance would have conceded too. But no keep going on with "we can screw a guild and say sorry and its ok".

pras

JayN
05-31-2014, 04:07 PM
Never said they were related. Said both of them were both accidents. AG gave their reasoning and everyone but the GM's agreed it was a accident. Still got suspended. TMO trains. They give their reasoning some people agree it was a accident. Not suspended. And TMO's "well we didnt get loot and conceded it" AG didnt get loot from it either and if given the chance would have conceded too. But no keep going on with "we can screw a guild and say sorry and its ok".

so accidental training = Killing something out of turn via Nexus or KS'ing another guilds FTE are breaking all of the same rule? or could you be more specific which rule TMO broke... in the RAID RULES therefore netting a raid suspension?

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 04:08 PM
Thats the bed you carebears made with class r lockouts and rotations, now lie in it

Joyelle
05-31-2014, 04:10 PM
The ultimate punishment is solely in the hands of the staff. Our suppositions that we've resolved the matter are based off of historical precedent.

Consider the facts: BDA's tracker was trained "accidentally," and only while he was being CR'd with the assistance of TMO did VS spawn. Had VS not spawned and TMO CR'd him, any harm done would have been ameliorated and the tracker would be in the exact same position he was before the train. However, VS did spawn, and TMO conceded. BDA took the kill and ended up in the same best case position they could have been in had TMO never showed up. Any damage caused was fully mitigated. If someone punches you in the arm, you don't get to sue him because he "could have" broken your arm; you take him for the damages he actually caused.

The only open left is whether or not the train was intentional. Given that the trainer was helping CR, I think it's more likely than not that he's innocent of malicious conduct.

Any comparisons with Azure Guard's situations are tenuous at best; however, I do feel that AG's punishment, while understandable, was far too strict given the overall sentiment of support throughout Class R.

Actually your facts are wrong. TMO trained Taken's tracker, not BDA. BDA ended up with the kill (fair and square). Had Taken not been trained by TMO we may have been in a better position to get the kill for ourselves, but that cannot be determined as I'm sure BDA was just as ready as we would have been. So even though you conceded the mob, you still fucked over Taken, while BDA got the spoils (still fair and square).

captnamazing
05-31-2014, 04:11 PM
no reason for GM intervention since guilds worked it out
thanks for playing
turn in your books to priest of discord today

doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 04:14 PM
I thought IB wasn't supposed to post in RnF, or is it cool if it's an anon account?

So much objectiveness from the GM staff on p99!

chickmagnet
05-31-2014, 04:15 PM
In that case, where is Taken's suspension for assisting in the KS of Faydedar? Not to mention, where is the fraps of this train? at least give RnF that....seeing that the mob was conceded, that train didn't improve tmo's chances as a guild of getting VS, so the guild in it's entirety should not be punished, now as per the individual who trained you....fraps or it didn't happen

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 04:23 PM
So takens stance is they werent handed the mob, so suspend them all? You guys are spoiled as fuck haha...enticed by a water dragkn shield to come up witn bullshit reasoning as to ehy IB was in the right and play along. Whos thr pixel whores now?

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 04:25 PM
Dragon, with, why, the*

In b4 cant spell

Frieza_Prexus
05-31-2014, 04:27 PM
Actually your facts are wrong. TMO trained Taken's tracker, not BDA. BDA ended up with the kill (fair and square). Had Taken not been trained by TMO we may have been in a better position to get the kill for ourselves, but that cannot be determined as I'm sure BDA was just as ready as we would have been. So even though you conceded the mob, you still fucked over Taken, while BDA got the spoils (still fair and square).

If it was Taken's tracker that was trained, then I withdraw my incorrect statement.

That said, it's still ultimately within the staff's hands. The generally accepted remedy for such things is withdrawal from the mob. If there's still a quantifiable damage that has yet to be remedied, then the trainer will be responsible for that. There's little precedent for suspending an entire guild based off the accidental train of a single person when the mob hasn't even spawned. I suspect that voluntary withdrawal is sufficient in the eyes of the staff.

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 04:29 PM
The sad reality is us conceding the mob is the only way either of you had a chance. Be thankful for that at least

Frieza_Prexus
05-31-2014, 04:29 PM
So much objectiveness from the GM staff on p99!

The GM's, Rogean included, have long outed anonymous forum accounts when they personally wish. Hide behind the veil at your own peril.

lrn2forumquest

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
05-31-2014, 04:31 PM
Scrubs out for blood despite TMO doing the right thing

Good luck

jaybone
05-31-2014, 04:32 PM
The GM's, Rogean included, have long outed anonymous forum accounts when they personally wish. Hide behind the veil at your own peril.

lrn2forumquest

When will they start outting characters banned from your guild and accounts?

Derubael
05-31-2014, 04:35 PM
So much objectiveness from the GM staff on p99!

My objectivity is directly linked to the amount of class shown in your original post. Don't make caustic and derogatory insinuations that any of us would allow TMO's filthy hands on our junk, and I won't make flippant off-hand remarks about RnF related IB politics, "anonymous troll".

Or maybe IB just gives shittier handjobs and now I'm jaded. It's one of those for sure.

Frieza_Prexus
05-31-2014, 04:36 PM
When will they start outting characters banned from your guild and accounts?

I don't know. Why don't you ask them?

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 04:39 PM
Actually your facts are wrong. TMO trained Taken's tracker, not BDA. BDA ended up with the kill (fair and square). Had Taken not been trained by TMO we may have been in a better position to get the kill for ourselves, but that cannot be determined as I'm sure BDA was just as ready as we would have been. So even though you conceded the mob, you still fucked over Taken, while BDA got the spoils (still fair and square).

Didn't you both wipe on VS before killing it, though?

Hitpoint
05-31-2014, 04:40 PM
Actually your facts are wrong. TMO trained Taken's tracker, not BDA. BDA ended up with the kill (fair and square). Had Taken not been trained by TMO we may have been in a better position to get the kill for ourselves, but that cannot be determined as I'm sure BDA was just as ready as we would have been. So even though you conceded the mob, you still fucked over Taken, while BDA got the spoils (still fair and square).

Taken did get an attempt though right? After BDA wiped?

Godefroi
05-31-2014, 04:41 PM
Getsome I'm still waiting on the 20k IB owes me btw, Mule @ t1 Thanks

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 04:50 PM
Taken did get an attempt though right? After BDA wiped?

That doesn't matter! They deserve more handouts, damnit!

Jarnauga
05-31-2014, 05:05 PM
why does nobody believe that TMO changed :(

Socratic
05-31-2014, 05:15 PM
why does nobody believe that TMO changed :(

Because we haven't. We still seem to be giving away a free mob or two every month because some idiot does something stupid. Grats BDA, heard the loots were good.

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 05:20 PM
why does nobody believe that TMO changed :(

It's all part of our secret plan to push mobs onto BDA, preparing them for the merge :3

arsenalpow
05-31-2014, 05:25 PM
It's all part of our secret plan to push mobs onto BDA, preparing them for the merge :3

Over my cold dead pixel body

khanable
05-31-2014, 05:26 PM
It's all part of our secret plan to push mobs onto BDA, preparing them for the merge :3

dr. dre up in here leakin the hot deets

Splorf22
05-31-2014, 05:26 PM
Actually your facts are wrong. TMO trained Taken's tracker, not BDA. BDA ended up with the kill (fair and square). Had Taken not been trained by TMO we may have been in a better position to get the kill for ourselves, but that cannot be determined as I'm sure BDA was just as ready as we would have been. So even though you conceded the mob, you still fucked over Taken, while BDA got the spoils (still fair and square).

This is what I was thinking too. If we teamed up with, say, Divinity, and they trained the fuck out of everyone else and then conceded, we could just move in and scoop the loot while everyone else was on CR. Then two weeks later, epics start magically appearing on their toons. I'm not saying that's what happened here; I am saying that this 'its ok as long as we concede' only really applies if there are two guilds present.

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 05:26 PM
Over my cold dead pixel body

Chest leadin the charge in VP. Well, I mean, telling us to wait until the mob gets taken, anyway :p C'mon it'll be fun!

SyanideGas
05-31-2014, 05:26 PM
Merge with these nuts son

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 05:31 PM
Merge with these nuts son

I'll get started on the paperwork.

quido
05-31-2014, 05:33 PM
absorb these nuts *****

Thulack
05-31-2014, 05:36 PM
So takens stance is they werent handed the mob, so suspend them all? You guys are spoiled as fuck haha...enticed by a water dragkn shield to come up witn bullshit reasoning as to ehy IB was in the right and play along. Whos thr pixel whores now?

What i say is my stance. Not Taken's not anyone elses. I'll continue to say fuck you and TMO as much as i want. It's coming from my mouth not Taken's.

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 05:43 PM
What i say is my stance. Not Taken's not anyone elses. I'll continue to say fuck you and TMO as much as i want. It's coming from my mouth not Taken's.

What have I done to you, Thulack <_<

JayN
05-31-2014, 05:44 PM
What i say is my stance. Not Taken's not anyone elses. I'll continue to say fuck you and TMO as much as i want. It's coming from my mouth not Taken's.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2l913j8.jpg

Nivar Quartz
05-31-2014, 05:47 PM
My objectivity is directly linked to the amount of class shown in your original post. Don't make caustic and derogatory insinuations that any of us would allow TMO's filthy hands on our junk, and I won't make flippant off-hand remarks about RnF related IB politics, "anonymous troll".

Or maybe IB just gives shittier handjobs and now I'm jaded. It's one of those for sure.

CONFIRMED DERUBAEL SUSPENDS TMO FOR THE BLATANT KINDA TRAINING, LAZIE AND XASTEN ALSO BANNED 4LIFE

P.P.P.S Ur IB hate shine threw like a new shiny penny :)

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 05:48 PM
CONFIRMED DERUBAEL SUSPENDS TMO FOR THE BLATANT KINDA TRAINING, LAZIE AND XASTEN ALSO BANNED 4LIFE

P.P.P.S Ur IB hate shine threw like a new shiny penny :)

shine bright like a diamond.

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 05:56 PM
What i say is my stance. Not Taken's not anyone elses. I'll continue to say fuck you and TMO as much as i want. It's coming from my mouth not Taken's.

Yea yea....tell that to Alarti and Eccezan. You speak for your guild whether you want to or not. Are you the one that lost the water dragon shield you stole from us? Would make sense considering your angst

Loud
05-31-2014, 06:01 PM
This is what I was thinking too. If we teamed up with, say, Divinity, and they trained the fuck out of everyone else and then conceded, we could just move in and scoop the loot while everyone else was on CR. Then two weeks later, epics start magically appearing on their toons. I'm not saying that's what happened here; I am saying that this 'its ok as long as we concede' only really applies if there are two guilds present.

Thulack
05-31-2014, 06:03 PM
Yea yea....tell that to Alarti and Eccezan. You speak for your guild whether you want to or not. Are you the one that lost the water dragon shield you stole from us? Would make sense considering your angst

Please i dont spend DKP on droppable items i could buy if i wanted (ok once damn you shimmering amber). My angst is due to watching TMO members(along with other guilds but more % of TMO then any) be disrespectful and ignorant to people to get pixels or to just fuck someone over. Part of me doesnt like to just say TMO because you do have a handful of decent people but its just a handful of a very large guild. Doing what you want at the cost of others is not how people should play this game.

Frieza_Prexus
05-31-2014, 06:07 PM
This is what I was thinking too. If we teamed up with, say, Divinity, and they trained the fuck out of everyone else and then conceded, we could just move in and scoop the loot while everyone else was on CR. Then two weeks later, epics start magically appearing on their toons. I'm not saying that's what happened here; I am saying that this 'its ok as long as we concede' only really applies if there are two guilds present.

Not exactly. It depends on the harm ultimately done. If the 3rd guild wipes or is very far behind, the train might only have a realistic impact between the trainer and the trainee. Withdrawing takes pressure off the trainee, and if the 3rd guild is far behind it can suffice as a remedy.

Just as you illustrate, intent and collusion are intervening factors that would exacerbate the punishment due to real culpability on the trainer's part.

TLDR: Withdrawal is sometimes an option in multiparty situations; it depends on the specific facts.

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 06:07 PM
Please i dont spend DKP on droppable items i could buy if i wanted (ok once damn you shimmering amber). My angst is due to watching TMO members(along with other guilds but more % of TMO then any) be disrespectful and ignorant to people to get pixels or to just fuck someone over. Part of me doesnt like to just say TMO because you do have a handful of decent people but its just a handful of a very large guild. Doing what you want at the cost of others is not how people should play this game.

I see. So would that also apply to Taken, BDA, and Divinity trying to push around the smaller class r guilds by telling them if a mob spawns during "a blackout" hour and one of you three guilds were tracking it that it becomes your kill and whoever was up for rotation on said mob still goes back to the bottom of the rotation?

Fuckin hypocrite

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 06:10 PM
I see. So would that also apply to Taken, BDA, and Divinity trying to push around the smaller class r guilds by telling them if a mob spawns during "a blackout" hour and one of you three guilds were tracking it that it becomes your kill and whoever was up for rotation on said mob still goes back to the bottom of the rotation?

Fuckin hypocrite

what's a blackout hour?

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 06:11 PM
A time where the smaller guilds cant field a force to kill the mob or its too late for any of them to track it

JayN
05-31-2014, 06:12 PM
what's a blackout hour?

Thulack
05-31-2014, 06:12 PM
I see. So would that also apply to Taken, BDA, and Divinity trying to push around the smaller class r guilds by telling them if a mob spawns during "a blackout" hour and one of you three guilds were tracking it that it becomes your kill and whoever was up for rotation on said mob still goes back to the bottom of the rotation?

Fuckin hypocrite

Got your rules a little messed up there from what i know of them. I don't know them all so not gonna give you a rules lesson but go ahead keep defending what you do.

Daldaen
05-31-2014, 06:13 PM
I see. So would that also apply to Taken, BDA, and Divinity trying to push around the smaller class r guilds by telling them if a mob spawns during "a blackout" hour and one of you three guilds were tracking it that it becomes your kill and whoever was up for rotation on said mob still goes back to the bottom of the rotation?

Fuckin hypocrite

You seem very rustled. Do you happen to have an officer in one of those small guilds, Asgard perhaps?

[Sun May 18 22:51:16 2014] Detoxx says out of character, 'this is omnia, im switching now'
[Sun May 18 22:53:39 2014] Omnia is an officer of Asgard.

I think I understand the rustle now.

Ella`Ella
05-31-2014, 06:13 PM
Maybe you will learn to communicate properly and put a proper link to your forum :)

You have to excuse Detoxx, we never accused him of intelligence.

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 06:15 PM
You seem very rustled. Do you happen to have an officer in one of those small guilds, Asgard perhaps?

[Sun May 18 22:51:16 2014] Detoxx says out of character, 'this is omnia, im switching now'
[Sun May 18 22:53:39 2014] Omnia is an officer of Asgard.

I think I understand the rustle now.

Point? This is pretty well known by now and ive never tried to hide it. I raid with them for fun and have not once asked for loot. Continue on tho...

Splorf22
05-31-2014, 06:16 PM
Not exactly. It depends on the harm ultimately done. If the 3rd guild wipes or is very far behind, the train might only have a realistic impact between the trainer and the trainee. Withdrawing takes pressure off the trainee, and if the 3rd guild is far behind it can suffice as a remedy.

Just as you illustrate, intent and collusion are intervening factors that would exacerbate the punishment due to real culpability on the trainer's part.

TLDR: Withdrawal is sometimes an option in multiparty situations; it depends on the specific facts.

I think you guys acted reasonably, and its good to see people attempting to work things out between each other rather than playing PetitionQuest. I just think all of the "AREN'T WE SUCH GREAT CITIZENS APP TMO HERE" posts are a bit over the top.

Nivar Quartz
05-31-2014, 06:16 PM
what's a blackout hour?

A live show from the 1920's i'm pretty sure...

Kekephee
05-31-2014, 06:18 PM
what's a blackout hour?

Something that has absolutely nothing to do with one guild "telling" another that they can't have the mob that should be theirs in the rotation and is absolutely not what this guy is suggesting. Guilds can opt to have their mob taken by other guilds if the mob will spawn at hours they know they can't field the numbers for it. So instead of, let's say, BDA knowing they won't be able to get the numbers for a Sev spawn if it happens between 4 and 7 am, which means if it goes FFA because they didn't kill it they get bumped in the rotation as if they'd killed the mob even though they didn't, they say "ok everybody, we can't kill the mob between these hours, so have at it" and everybody says "thanks for being cool about it, we're not going to bump you down the rotation for a mob you didn't kill"

Daldaen
05-31-2014, 06:19 PM
Point? This is pretty well known by now and ive never tried to hide it. I raid with them for fun and have not once asked for loot. Continue on tho...

Point being you feel slighted about the Class R rotation rules because they don't seem to be favorable to your Class R guild. It explains your rustle.

Funkutron5000
05-31-2014, 06:19 PM
what's a blackout hour?

Let's do some adios mother fuckers and see what happens ;)

Kekephee
05-31-2014, 06:20 PM
In other words "Taken and BDA pushing other guilds around with blackout hours" is a very silly thing to say because guilds choose themselves to go on blackout to protect themselves from having shit yoinked from them when they can't kill it.

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 06:22 PM
In other words "Taken and BDA pushing other guilds around with blackout hours" is a very silly thing to say because guilds choose themselves to go on blackout to protect themselves from having shit yoinked from them when they can't kill it.

That was the final agreement, sure. But only after what I said was initially accepted and rejected, hence the word "trying".

Fountree
05-31-2014, 06:23 PM
a blackout hour
blackout hour
blackout hour
blackout hour

blackout hour

A time where the smaller guilds cant field a force to kill the mob or its too late for any of them to track it

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 06:23 PM
Initially suggested*

quido
05-31-2014, 06:23 PM
that's racist

quido
05-31-2014, 06:24 PM
https://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/brockhoganballs.gif

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 06:24 PM
Let's do some adios mother fuckers and see what happens ;)

Sounds like you're cruisin for another OTPHJ

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 06:27 PM
Point being you feel slighted about the Class R rotation rules because they don't seem to be favorable to your Class R guild. It explains your rustle.

No I really dont care, was just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Kekephee
05-31-2014, 06:28 PM
That was the final agreement, sure. But only after what I said was initially accepted and rejected, hence the word "trying".

I don't get what you're saying. BDA and Taken, in the initial planning stages of how this rotation is going to work, proposed some measure that wasn't good for smaller guilds in some way, and smaller guilds didn't want it like that, so it got amended to be better for them and everyone was happy with it? That's "pushing smaller guilds around"?

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 06:31 PM
IIRC class R (sans doljo, lols) are pretty cool with all the agreements they've made. Why you haff to be mad Detoxx :p

Jaxon
05-31-2014, 06:38 PM
IIRC class R (sans doljo, lols) are pretty cool with all the agreements they've made. Why TMO be mad Detoxx :p

Fountree
05-31-2014, 06:38 PM
Why you haff to be mad Detoxx :p

He doesn't have to explain anything to a guild-hopper like yourself, he's the pride and savior of TMO. Have some fucking respect.

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 06:39 PM
He doesn't have to explain anything to a guild-hopper like yourself, he's the pride and savior of TMO. Have some fucking respect.

Guild hopping eh? You mean back when I was in IB like...09/10? Cuz while some of the TR folk are alright, it isn't the same guild.

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 06:40 PM
He doesn't have to explain anything to a guild-hopper like yourself, he's the pride and savior of TMO. Have some fucking respect.

QFT...fuck you heallun, tmo scum

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 06:46 PM
QFT...fuck you heallun, tmo scum

Literally ruining the server as I speak. Just don't tell them about the 2 rend robes that rotted today I guess :3

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 06:46 PM
So takens stance is they werent handed the mob, so suspend them all? You guys are spoiled as fuck haha...enticed by a water dragkn shield to come up witn bullshit reasoning as to ehy IB was in the right and play along. Whos thr pixel whores now?

http://img.sadistic.pl/pics/b676ff3c4428.gif

Detoxx
05-31-2014, 06:47 PM
Literally ruining the server as I speak. Just don't tell them about the 2 rend robes that rotted today I guess :3

Low blow bro, low blow

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 06:49 PM
Well good to see this thread turned into TMO faggots circle jerking each other to try and deflect the bannable offense.

Lazie
05-31-2014, 06:49 PM
Taken did get an attempt though right? After BDA wiped?

Taken wiped first.

HeallunRumblebelly
05-31-2014, 06:50 PM
Well good to see this thread turned into TMO faggots circle jerking each other to try and deflect the bannable offense.

GMs know, bro. It's not like they read R&F to decide how they're going to handle a situation. Let em do what they feel like they need to do.

Funkutron5000
05-31-2014, 06:57 PM
Well good to see this thread turned into TMO faggots circle jerking each other to try and deflect the bannable offense.

Good to see you using hate speech and slurs because you don't know a better way to express yourself using the English language.

Joyelle
05-31-2014, 06:59 PM
fraps or it didn't happen
TMO never changes.

Lazie
05-31-2014, 07:19 PM
Well good to see this thread turned into TMO faggots circle jerking each other to try and deflect the bannable offense.

What offense happened that was "Bannable" ?

VS wasn't up when our tracker was moving in position to track. He didn't get his aggro cleared and died. After he died his aggro killed Taken's trackers. We were resolving the situation getting people in place to rez them when VS spawns. TMO concedes to not kill because one person in our guild made a mistake trying to get setup to track VS. Now if you think the guy should be "Banned" for accidentally training 2 people in VS pit before VS was up that seems a bit harsh.

doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 07:23 PM
Long time reader, first time thread starter here in the RnF lounge.



Rate first time: 1 out of 10.

Frieza_Prexus
05-31-2014, 07:24 PM
Well good to see this thread turned into TMO faggots circle jerking each other to try and deflect the bannable offense.

It's interesting that you'd complain about the quality of the discussion when your only accomplishment is shitting on your keyboard and pressing enter.

doyoueventrainbro
05-31-2014, 07:27 PM
My objectivity is directly linked to the amount of class shown in your original post. Don't make caustic and derogatory insinuations that any of us would allow TMO's filthy hands on our junk, and I won't make flippant off-hand remarks about RnF related IB politics, "anonymous troll".

Or maybe IB just gives shittier handjobs and now I'm jaded. It's one of those for sure.

I don't always look for class, but when I do I come to RnF .

I did laugh, though.

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 07:37 PM
Derubael getting rustled. It's OK for Tiggles to photoshop things in an attempt to defame people.

quido
05-31-2014, 09:40 PM
The truth is out there

ssfarmer
05-31-2014, 09:56 PM
IB tried to work it out but got suspended anyway

Ummmm they didnt try to work anything out..... they just blamed their stealing an engaged mob because the puller was unguilded, then 2 days later stole another mob the same way AFTER being scolded by the GM staff

In this case TMO immediately conceded the kill and then help with the CR's after people wiped

freez
05-31-2014, 09:59 PM
lol slapen


raid welfare attendant

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 10:03 PM
Scolded lol

chickmagnet
05-31-2014, 10:26 PM
who cares? If you think it is unfair, join TMO and get special treatment, like spawn times/loot tables/velious release date/and hand jobs from Derubael

Frieza_Prexus
05-31-2014, 10:30 PM
Multiple GM's / Guides had their personal accounts show up in the MQ/SEQ bust.

I always suspect that they were pinched because they used it to help police the server in their role as guides. Alternatively: the best way to protect against thieves is to hire better thieves.

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 10:38 PM
And what did Amelinda get removed from the staff for?

Tiggles
05-31-2014, 10:42 PM
And what did Amelinda get removed from the staff for?

Taking money from IB to look the other way why they RMTd off the server.

Amelinda was dirty for both IB and TMO.

Dragonsblood1987
05-31-2014, 11:03 PM
HAY GUYS!

I heard TMO trained Taken and BDA today at VS!

Also heard the zone crashed randomly when BDA was first about to engage!

Will TMO also eat a raid suspension or will they give Sirken the handjob of his life to avoid one???

Azure Guard gets suspended for helping.
IB gets suspended for KSing twice.
Dojo gets suspended for being idiots.
TMO guilty of training multiple times caught on fraps gets free two weeks of uncontested loots.

Stay tuned.

I don't think it's handjobs he's getting. I'm pretty sure he's getting paid off with that rmt cheddar.

Heebo
05-31-2014, 11:08 PM
Loooooota May 2014 accounts up in this thread.

Sirken
05-31-2014, 11:15 PM
Who did Amelinda mentor... Sirken.

ok thats where i draw the line. are u serious? Sirken was Sirken long before p99 was a thing. where the hell do u guys get this crap from?

the thought of anyone being mentored by her is absurd.

in conclusion, i'm amused by how little you actually know

<3

Ella`Ella
05-31-2014, 11:16 PM
ok thats where i draw the line. are u serious? Sirken was Sirken long before p99 was a thing. where the hell do u guys get this crap from?

the thought of anyone being mentored by her is absurd.

in conclusion, i'm amused by how little you actually know

<3

TMO scum.

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 11:19 PM
We're just doing what Tiggles Is allowed to do make shit up and attempt to ruin people's reputation.

Sirken
05-31-2014, 11:21 PM
We're just doing what Tiggles Is allowed to do make shit up and attempt to ruin people's reputation.

thats fine. when IB is in trouble i favor TMO, when TMO is in trouble i favor IB. i've accepted that.

but to say i was mentored by Amelinda :mad:

Tasslehofp99
05-31-2014, 11:24 PM
Im sure im part of a minority here but, I feel bad for the dude who accidentally trained taken. Im sure Not many of you know him but hes a really friendly and helpful dude who honestly has probably never griefed someone intentionally or disrespected someone over a game. Now hes got people in his own guild mad at him as well as half of taken I'm sure. I feel like having your own guild doubt/disrespect you as well as having another entire guild blame you for losing their pixels is worse than actually losing said pixels.

I mean VS spawns again next week but people are still going ti remember him as the guy who trained taken at VS that one time. No need to ruin someones p99 experience over a simple mistake (it was a 100% mistake)that any one of you could've or has made in the past.

If he maliciously trained you guys and then we went in and killed VtS, then I could see this post as being legitimate. This is just elementary level trolling, not much more.

I know this is RNF but just my 2 cents bros

Tankdan
05-31-2014, 11:27 PM
thats fine. when IB is in trouble i favor TMO, when TMO is in trouble i favor IB. i've accepted that.


Like in this case?

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 11:35 PM
Im sure im part of a minority here but, I feel bad for the dude who accidentally trained taken. Im sure Not many of you know him but hes a really friendly and helpful dude who honestly has probably never griefed someone intentionally or disrespected someone over a game. Now hes got people in his own guild mad at him as well as half of taken I'm sure. I feel like having your own guild doubt/disrespect you as well as having another entire guild blame you for losing their pixels is worse than actually losing said pixels.

I mean VS spawns again next week but people are still going ti remember him as the guy who trained taken at VS that one time. No need to ruin someones p99 experience over a simple mistake (it was a 100% mistake)that any one of you could've or has made in the past.

If he maliciously trained you guys and then we went in and killed VtS, then I could see this post as being legitimate. This is just elementary level trolling, not much more.

I know this is RNF but just my 2 cents bros

Yet tiggles photoshops things from former guildies to make them look bad. Nice logic idiot.

arsenalpow
05-31-2014, 11:35 PM
Im sure im part of a minority here but, I feel bad for the dude who accidentally trained taken. Im sure Not many of you know him but hes a really friendly and helpful dude who honestly has probably never griefed someone intentionally or disrespected someone over a game. Now hes got people in his own guild mad at him as well as half of taken I'm sure. I feel like having your own guild doubt/disrespect you as well as having another entire guild blame you for losing their pixels is worse than actually losing said pixels.

I mean VS spawns again next week but people are still going ti remember him as the guy who trained taken at VS that one time. No need to ruin someones p99 experience over a simple mistake (it was a 100% mistake)that any one of you could've or has made in the past.

If he maliciously trained you guys and then we went in and killed VtS, then I could see this post as being legitimate. This is just elementary level trolling, not much more.

I know this is RNF but just my 2 cents bros

BDA would like to thank this person.















JK. Fuck TMO.

Tiggles
05-31-2014, 11:38 PM
Yet tiggles photoshops things from former guildies to make them look bad. Nice logic idiot.

What ya gonna do about it.

freez
05-31-2014, 11:43 PM
ikd why sirken gives a fuck what a bluebie has to say to him


i dont expect him to give a fuck about a red either, but a blue crying about some rotation shit? hahahaha no.

Uuruk
05-31-2014, 11:47 PM
ikd why sirken gives a fuck what a bluebie has to say to him


i dont expect him to give a fuck about a red either, but a blue crying about some rotation shit? hahahaha no.
Converted to red. Server is awesome.

Mac Drettj
05-31-2014, 11:48 PM
who cares

radditsu
05-31-2014, 11:48 PM
BDA would like to thank this person.















JK. Fuck TMO.

Mac Drettj
05-31-2014, 11:49 PM
i was mentored by Amelinda

you said it not me

freez
05-31-2014, 11:52 PM
sirken already raped ur sig dawg


get fucked

Sirken
05-31-2014, 11:55 PM
you said it not me

http://www.bamapastor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/TakeBall.jpg

Mac Drettj
06-01-2014, 12:02 AM
next time i get in trouble can i request TRIAL BY COMBAT?

Nivar Quartz
06-01-2014, 01:43 AM
Vendar is Sirken, Sirken is Vendar.

Notice how TMO's rise happens right after Uthgaard leaves? Who took his place after he left... Amelinda.

Who did Amelinda mentor... Sirken.

What guild were both of these members of?

I'll give you one clue.

TMO

Stealin working RnF like he aint been away for 6months

http://i.imgur.com/N6D1th2.gif

Origin
06-01-2014, 04:35 AM
My objectivity is directly linked to the amount of class shown in your original post. Don't make caustic and derogatory insinuations that any of us would allow TMO's filthy hands on our junk, and I won't make flippant off-hand remarks about RnF related IB politics, "anonymous troll".

Or maybe IB just gives shittier handjobs and now I'm jaded. It's one of those for sure.


This may be Rants and Flames, But it is not a "Do whatever the hell you want' forum.

Incomplete List of Things you are NOT allowed to do here:

You may under NO CIRCUMSTANCES at any time:

1. Attack or talk shit about the staff. IF you wanna participate in that then I suggest you do it in a forum where I am not a moderator.

Honestly, what's the point in taking jabs while hiding behind forum rules? You understand how that makes you look, right?

doyoueventrainbro
06-01-2014, 04:43 AM
Fo rizzle. Quit jabbing at me when I can't jab back homie.

Lazie
06-01-2014, 04:48 AM
Fo rizzle. Quit jabbing at me when I can't jab back homie.

QQ

Skywarp
06-01-2014, 06:02 AM
Despite the fact that most of TMO are Money grubbing, self serving plat dredges, this is what happened. TMO Monk Jepitah ran into the pit not knowing a force was present. Got tagged by a caster after the feign and was distracted by his kid for a split second and never saw that he was hit. Never realized casters could hit without LOS through walls on first cast.

TMO saw the problem that could have arisen from this. Conceded attempt on VS and
began to rez the people from the other guilds who died. End of story. Spin it how you like it but that's what happened.

Grats TMO for actually being the bigger guy and walking away without a case of butt hurt for once.

Godefroi
06-01-2014, 06:07 AM
Honestly, what's the point in taking jabs while hiding behind forum rules? You understand how that makes you look, right?

you know Origin, 3 years in IB makes you understand how little esteem IB has for the staff, and how Getsome repeatedly fronts them with disdain.

You reap what you saw guys.

Swish
06-01-2014, 07:36 AM
...this is what happened.

TMO Monk Jepitah ran into the pit not knowing a force was present. Got tagged by a caster after the feign and was distracted by his kid for a split second and never saw that he was hit. Never realized casters could hit without LOS through walls on first cast.

TMO saw the problem that could have arisen from this. Conceded attempt on VS and
began to rez the people from the other guilds who died. End of story. Spin it how you like it but that's what happened.

Grats TMO for actually being the bigger guy and walking away without a case of butt hurt for once.

http://memecrunch.com/meme/12I6P/cool-story-bro/image.png

Skywarp
06-01-2014, 08:23 AM
You can perform all the mental gymnastics in your head you want but it is what it is.
If you were there you would know what happened. I got my rez while you were sniffing your own farts

Origin
06-01-2014, 08:25 AM
you know Origin, 3 years in IB makes you understand how little esteem IB has for the staff, and how Getsome repeatedly fronts them with disdain.

You reap what you saw guys.

Remember that time you and your FE pals posted real life shit about Scuba Alarti? Then for months everything you'd joke about was Alarti; his real life, his job, his dating site profile, his scuba, etc.

Yeah, what's that? I can't hear you. Alarti's balls are fucking up your vocal cords, they're so deep down your throat.

Don't talk to me like i haven't been on this server since the start. Who the fuck are you anyways? Your only contribution to anything meaningful ever was that you rerolled from being a horrible monk to a horrible necro, while at the same time being a horrible troll. Meow, motherfucker.

Bottom line is, cocksuckers like you, Tasslehof, Hitpoint and whoever else, are just pixel lusty dick riders. The only person that has any credibility from that FE bunch is Unbrella, because he's ruthless and he'll do whatever it takes to win. The rest of you shits just ride his nuts and reap the benefits of his politics.

And it's reap what you sow, you faggot. Reap what you sow.

Skywarp
06-01-2014, 08:38 AM
Don't quit your day job Jr forum fighter.

Must be uncomfortable sitting on such big internet balls.

Eat a bag of heroine dicks forum junkie.

Arteker
06-01-2014, 09:38 AM
next time i get in trouble can i request TRIAL BY COMBAT?
only if we figth in Battlemechs.

Derubael
06-01-2014, 10:10 AM
Honestly, what's the point in taking jabs while hiding behind forum rules? You understand how that makes you look, right?

wat?

Who's hiding behind forum rules? I've had countless people talk stupid amounts of shit to me/about me, calling out my decisions or me as a GM, and have never banned anyone for it.

If you talk poorly about the other staff members that's likely going to be a different story. I'm not a fan of my fellow hard working volunteers getting insulted for putting in long hours helping the server.

o, and can confirm Sirken never studied under Amelinda. Just cause she came first doesn't mean she had anything to teach :) By all accounts she would have made a terrible teacher.

Godefroi
06-01-2014, 10:38 AM
And it's reap what you sow, you faggot. Reap what you sow.

http://cdn.arwrath.com/2/262629.gif

It's just a game brew, surprised I can get under your skin that easily though :rolleyes:

Nuggie
06-01-2014, 11:00 AM
Never realized casters could hit without LOS through walls on first cast.

TMO saw the problem that could have arisen from this. Conceded attempt on VS and
began to rez the people from the other guilds who died. End of story. Spin it how you like it but that's what happened.

Grats TMO for actually being the bigger guy and walking away without a case of butt hurt for once.

I call bullshit. Everyone knows this. However, I see how the second part of your post fits. +1 for TMO.

P.s. See next post for related rebuttal(forumquest on my phone sucks)

Nuggie
06-01-2014, 11:05 AM
If it was Taken's tracker that was trained, then I withdraw my incorrect statement.

That said, it's still ultimately within the staff's hands. The generally accepted remedy for such things is withdrawal from the mob. If there's still a quantifiable damage that has yet to be remedied, then the trainer will be responsible for that. There's little precedent for suspending an entire guild based off the accidental train of a single person when the mob hasn't even spawned. I suspect that voluntary withdrawal is sufficient in the eyes of the staff.

It wouldn't be the first time GM's have made some off the wall decisions with some unrelated shit. Remember that time IB got raid suspended for one of their members getting caught two-boxing in Lguk? While not the same thing there are parallels in how the two situations shouldn't be related, but could be.

Also, don't assume to know what is going through the GM's minds, they are mysterious and stuff.

Gaffin 7.0
06-01-2014, 11:07 AM
this thread is so gay, i leave you with a zelniak

http://i59.tinypic.com/33nb9lz.png

Nuggie
06-01-2014, 11:08 AM
but to say i was mentored by Amelinda :mad:

Mwuahahaha, this is how I read that.

Funkutron5000
06-01-2014, 01:10 PM
Remember that time you and your FE pals posted real life shit about Scuba Alarti? Then for months everything you'd joke about was Alarti; his real life, his job, his dating site profile, his scuba, etc.

Yeah, what's that? I can't hear you. Alarti's balls are fucking up your vocal cords, they're so deep down your throat.

Don't talk to me like i haven't been on this server since the start. Who the fuck are you anyways? Your only contribution to anything meaningful ever was that you rerolled from being a horrible monk to a horrible necro, while at the same time being a horrible troll. Meow, motherfucker.

Bottom line is, cocksuckers like you, Tasslehof, Hitpoint and whoever else, are just pixel lusty dick riders. The only person that has any credibility from that FE bunch is Unbrella, because he's ruthless and he'll do whatever it takes to win. The rest of you shits just ride his nuts and reap the benefits of his politics.

And it's reap what you sow, you faggot. Reap what you sow.

Have fun with your two weeks off!

radditsu
06-01-2014, 01:36 PM
Sirken an Amelinda sitting in a tree. Tree limb breaks and Amelinda freaks out at people randomly because she has it so hard. Tiggles buys some marshmallows and has skype sex with her to calm her down. IB then gets suspended.


Sirken becomes aroused at the power.... immediately makes skype friends with Alarti for the future.

quido
06-01-2014, 01:42 PM
I want some marshmallows

YendorLootmonkey
06-01-2014, 01:46 PM
Just cause she came first

I believe only Tiggles can speak to that.

Funkutron5000
06-01-2014, 02:16 PM
I believe only Tiggles can speak to that.

I just threw up in my own mouth.

Gaffin 7.0
06-01-2014, 02:18 PM
http://i60.tinypic.com/2r1z2ba.gif

Tiggles
06-01-2014, 02:26 PM
I believe only Tiggles can speak to that.

http://img.pandawhale.com/99242-sad-koala-drums-rimshot-gif-Im-EQFu.gif

hatelore
06-01-2014, 03:19 PM
Remember that time you and your FE pals posted real life shit about Scuba Alarti? Then for months everything you'd joke about was Alarti; his real life, his job, his dating site profile, his scuba, etc.

Yeah, what's that? I can't hear you. Alarti's balls are fucking up your vocal cords, they're so deep down your throat.

Don't talk to me like i haven't been on this server since the start. Who the fuck are you anyways? Your only contribution to anything meaningful ever was that you rerolled from being a horrible monk to a horrible necro, while at the same time being a horrible troll. Meow, motherfucker.

Bottom line is, cocksuckers like you, Tasslehof, Hitpoint and whoever else, are just pixel lusty dick riders. The only person that has any credibility from that FE bunch is Unbrella, because he's ruthless and he'll do whatever it takes to win. The rest of you shits just ride his nuts and reap the benefits of his politics.

And it's reap what you sow, you faggot. Reap what you sow.

Lol, motherfuckin /thread x 100

Loke
06-01-2014, 03:25 PM
Remember that time you and your FE pals posted real life shit about Scuba Alarti? Then for months everything you'd joke about was Alarti; his real life, his job, his dating site profile, his scuba, etc.

Yeah, what's that? I can't hear you. Alarti's balls are fucking up your vocal cords, they're so deep down your throat.

Don't talk to me like i haven't been on this server since the start. Who the fuck are you anyways? Your only contribution to anything meaningful ever was that you rerolled from being a horrible monk to a horrible necro, while at the same time being a horrible troll. Meow, motherfucker.

Bottom line is, cocksuckers like you, Tasslehof, Hitpoint and whoever else, are just pixel lusty dick riders. The only person that has any credibility from that FE bunch is Unbrella, because he's ruthless and he'll do whatever it takes to win. The rest of you shits just ride his nuts and reap the benefits of his politics.

And it's reap what you sow, you faggot. Reap what you sow.

Ouch :(

Ella`Ella
06-01-2014, 03:36 PM
Meow, Motherfucker.

Man0warr
06-01-2014, 03:47 PM
You guys are leaving out the part where Yibz trained the BDA raid force after VS spawned, intentionally, with about 20 mobs - he stood up on the ledge with the mobs, saw us, and jumped down and died.

We had at least 2 people Fraps that, and after that is when TMO ultimately pulled out after they were alerted of that.

Saying they conceded VS after training Taken trackers is a smokescreen because it sounds less egregious - they still had members coming down to pit well after that happened.

Lazie
06-01-2014, 04:11 PM
You guys are leaving out the part where Yibz trained the BDA raid force after VS spawned, intentionally, with about 20 mobs - he stood up on the ledge with the mobs, saw us, and jumped down and died.

We had at least 2 people Fraps that, and after that is when TMO ultimately pulled out after they were alerted of that.

Saying they conceded VS after training Taken trackers is a smokescreen because it sounds less egregious - they still had members coming down to pit well after that happened.

We conceded as soon as the mob spawned. Not after whatever you are claiming. I was in vent I know. Mob spawned we called it and the Raid leader said we are conceding. Nice fantasy though.

Man0warr
06-01-2014, 04:13 PM
So you don't deny Yibz trained BDA with 20+ mobs?

Lazie
06-01-2014, 04:13 PM
So you don't deny Yibz trained BDA with 20+ mobs?

I called that a fantasy. Which it is.

Incubo
06-01-2014, 04:16 PM
So you don't deny Yibz trained BDA with 20+ mobs?

Where are the fraps?

arsenalpow
06-01-2014, 04:31 PM
Where are the fraps?

fraps being cut and compressed now

quido
06-01-2014, 04:33 PM
How did TMO know to train like a minute before VS spawned? I think we should look into Sirken, Derubael, and Amelinda for giving TMO the spawn timers - this is bullshit

arsenalpow
06-01-2014, 04:51 PM
yibz the minstrel trainer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_UGa3XvkMY&feature=youtu.be

Ambrotos
06-01-2014, 04:54 PM
Why no 1440p?

arsenalpow
06-01-2014, 04:55 PM
Why no 1440p?

because our frapser is lazy

quido
06-01-2014, 04:56 PM
lol you call that a train?

JayN
06-01-2014, 04:56 PM
yibz the minstrel trainer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_UGa3XvkMY&feature=youtu.be

Holy shit how many bda did you have "tracking"? that looks like a full grp. Looks like you should have all given up your shot at VS too

kotton05
06-01-2014, 04:58 PM
lol you call that a train?

This

arsenalpow
06-01-2014, 05:00 PM
lol you call that a train?
it was like 5-8 mobs, if we're trying to take a shot at VS with 12-18 people 6-10 additional mobs that need to be CCed isn't going to help
Holy shit how many bda did you have "tracking"? that looks like a full grp. Looks like you should have all given up your shot at VS too
this was post VS popping, so you're an idiot
This
you don't even play anymore