Govt Weaponizing Weather

[Draxx]

The government has plans to weaponize the weather. Think of the global effects when two countries go to war and they both have the capability to control and generate weather capable of untold destruction....

http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf

[Argh]

Who cares? More earthquakes = more mobs.

[Swish]

Type "HAARP" into google, bad times.

[Draxx]

Because when it gets out of hand they'll destroy the world as we know it by ruining ecosystems that we depend on to survive.

[Ahldagor]

gov isn't short sighted like the vast majority of people

[Draxx]

Type "HAARP" into google, bad times.

Scary shit.

U.S. Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) research physicists and engineers from the Plasma Physics Division, working at the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) transmitter facility, Gakona, Alaska, successfully produced a sustained high density plasma cloud in Earth's upper atmosphere.

"Previous artificial plasma density clouds have lifetimes of only ten minutes or less," said Paul Bernhardt, Ph.D., NRL Space Use and Plasma Section. "This higher density plasma 'ball' was sustained over one hour by the HAARP transmissions and was extinguished only after termination of the HAARP radio beam."
- See more at: http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2013/nrl-scientists-produce-densest-artificial-ionospheric-plasma-clouds-using-haarp#sthash.0z8uUAPn.dpuf

http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2013/nrl-scientists-produce-densest-artificial-ionospheric-plasma-clouds-using-haarp

[Draxx]

gov isn't short sighted like the vast majority of people

Right....because we:


never gave weapons to Iraq
never gave weapons to Israel to use against the Palestinians
had a plan to win the Vietnam War
never have a deficit due to our perfect federal budgeting
never have failed to provide proper care for our Veterans


Oh wait none of that is true. Must have been on purpose then since the government isn't short sighted.

[Azure]

Well they successfully modified the weather and figured out how to do it. Specifically the ionosphere. They probably decided nuclear bursts in space were sufficient and cheaper than manning and guarding the facility which was hard to justify being kept closed to the public and scientists not in the DoD.

So they dismantled it. This way no one can prove that what they learned was mind control and weather manipulation and the best methods of achieving this through experimentation.

The failed, bid/buyout is probably just a coverup to make it look legitimate.

[Ahldagor]

Right....because we:


never gave weapons to Iraq
never gave weapons to Israel to use against the Palestinians
had a plan to win the Vietnam War
never have a deficit due to our perfect federal budgeting
never have failed to provide proper care for our Veterans


Oh wait none of that is true. Must have been on purpose then since the government isn't short sighted.

vietnam was the wake up call for 'em. new veterans affairs issues aren't new. since ww1 we've had trouble with post-service handling of a large military. we knew we'd go to fight iraq, eventually btw. we knew what would happen with helping afghanistan too. and the great motivator is future economic development. controlling weather will help our drought stricken areas, and if we can use it to hurt our enemies then what's the issue other than the magnitudes of energy needed to enact any of that...

[r00t]

The government has been using scalar weaponry ever since Tesla invented the concept. Agree with the guy who says look into HAARP

[r00t]

Because when it gets out of hand they'll destroy the world as we know it by ruining ecosystems that we depend on to survive.

The elite talk of using neutron bombs in case of a true uprising

[Azure]

Worked with an old huey pilot that said he saw an entire herd of dead antalope from a test and that the nuetron device was real. He flew it out to the range were they detonnated it and flew back to recover it with a team.

Says he was really creeped out by it and the guys wouldn't ever talk about what it was they were doing.

[Draxx]

Well they successfully modified the weather and figured out how to do it. Specifically the ionosphere. They probably decided nuclear bursts in space were sufficient and cheaper than manning and guarding the facility which was hard to justify being kept closed to the public and scientists not in the DoD.

So they dismantled it. This way no one can prove that what they learned was mind control and weather manipulation and the best methods of achieving this through experimentation.

The failed, bid/buyout is probably just a coverup to make it look legitimate.

But they haven't dismantled it. It's still there. They only shut down the program. They shut it down because they were legally unable to prevent civilian access. They have plans and a budget for it still.

http://www.saffm.hq.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-130408-064.pdf

[Draxx]

vietnam was the wake up call for 'em. new veterans affairs issues aren't new. since ww1 we've had trouble with post-service handling of a large military. we knew we'd go to fight iraq, eventually btw. we knew what would happen with helping afghanistan too. and the great motivator is future economic development. controlling weather will help our drought stricken areas, and if we can use it to hurt our enemies then what's the issue other than the magnitudes of energy needed to enact any of that...

Exactly. They are short-sited. By your own words if they knew about all that they would have plans in place on how to handle those very situations in which you name.

[phacemeltar]

you think its scary now, just wait until Siri has control of this technology... bow to your new overlords

[Draxx]

you think its scary now, just wait until Siri has control of this technology... bow to your new overlords

Siri will some day = terminator's Skynet

That or Cortana.

[Ahldagor]

Exactly. They are short-sited. By your own words if they knew about all that they would have plans in place on how to handle those very situations in which you name.

you're using the past to define a future certainty. don't. it's like playing chess and having to look at the entire board. if we do this then what does that say to the rest of the world? we won't use it, enemies know that, but what does that mean we really will use? there's a lot of having to act crazy in the game now since it's not ussr v. usa, but any crazy guy with a lot of money and control over others (n. korea) can get the usa's attention; and, sadly, you have to show them that you can out crazy them to the rest of the world so the rest of the world will likely back you in a situation because of that giant economy and military.

it makes more sense to be able to knock out enemy communications and improve our own through researching the ionosphere than causing seismic shifts through out the earth's surface even though that's more dependent on the earth's crustal plates floating on the upper mantle (little geology goes a long way) than anything with the ionosphere.

[phacemeltar]

Siri will some day = terminator's Skynet

That or Cortana.

many humans have prophecized about this concept for hundreds of years, yet the vector of our progress has not changed. if fate does not exist, then there must be some collective goal towards self-destruction.

[Nihilist_santa]

This has been known about for a long time. There have been tretise against environmental manipulation since the 70s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention

[Ahldagor]

and weaponizing space....

[HeallunRumblebelly]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/601/149/e58.gif

[JayN]

Skynet is already here. only need to speak to security analysts from the armed forces

[moklianne]

and weaponizing space....

And it would be so easy to convince citizens we need to do it.

"Look! Scary aliens are coming for us! We need to make space weapons! And spaceworth warships!"

Just like terrorism in the middle east. Al Qaeda is coming for us, we must invade Iraq, etc.

[moklianne]

It does make you wonder if the increase in earth quakes or typhoons and so forth are being caused by man-made technology to disrupt the economies their enemies.

[Nihilist_santa]

It would make sense. The U.S. and its main rivals are locked in M.A.D. so they have to resort to proxy wars and other less direct methods like cyber warfare, economic warfare etc etc. Weather war would be hard to trace and is far more devastating over a wider area Not to mention the demoralizing affects of such actions. Causing drought conditions for instance could lead to famine which leads to internal strife causing a revolt or coup. Then you send in recovery crews to profit from redevelopment. Pretty sweet deal these guys are working.

[Draxx]

It would make sense. The U.S. and its main rivals are locked in M.A.D. so they have to resort to proxy wars and other less direct methods like cyber warfare, economic warfare etc etc. Weather war would be hard to trace and is far more devastating over a wider area Not to mention the demoralizing affects of such actions. Causing drought conditions for instance could lead to famine which leads to internal strife causing a revolt or coup. Then you send in recovery crews to profit from redevelopment. Pretty sweet deal these guys are working.

This guy gets it. :)

[Ahldagor]

And it would be so easy to convince citizens we need to do it.

"Look! Scary aliens are coming for us! We need to make space weapons! And spaceworth warships!"

Just like terrorism in the middle east. Al Qaeda is coming for us, we must invade Iraq, etc.

more in reference to this you nimrod
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

It would make sense. The U.S. and its main rivals are locked in M.A.D. so they have to resort to proxy wars and other less direct methods like cyber warfare, economic warfare etc etc. Weather war would be hard to trace and is far more devastating over a wider area Not to mention the demoralizing affects of such actions. Causing drought conditions for instance could lead to famine which leads to internal strife causing a revolt or coup. Then you send in recovery crews to profit from redevelopment. Pretty sweet deal these guys are working.

causing a drought to start an uprising? why do that when we can freeze assets of a country's leader/s, effectively manipulate their economy, not physically harm any of its citizens other than what they do to themselves, and get lucky if they unite and rebel against their leader/s with US economic sanctions which are generally viewed as a positive measure by the international community. the international currency is the us dollar for a reason, but lots of people are impatient now and days. unfortunately.

[Nihilist_santa]

Those are just possible scenarios. Sanctions come with unexpected backlash. Who is going to question mother nature? Geo-engineering being another.

Just a hint that the US could cause earthquakes and shut down your infrastructure is enough to be a deterrent as well. Nukes are just too dirty warfare is beyond that now.

People mentioned HAARP and if it is being used to manipulate or weaponize weather but there are many other uses for the technology. Weather manipulation could just be a side effect for all anyone in the public knows.

[Swish]

causing a drought to start an uprising? why do that when we can freeze assets of a country's leader/s, effectively manipulate their economy, not physically harm any of its citizens other than what they do to themselves, and get lucky if they unite and rebel against their leader/s with US economic sanctions which are generally viewed as a positive measure by the international community. the international currency is the us dollar for a reason, but lots of people are impatient now and days. unfortunately.

It's not that simple these days unless you're going to have a media blackout on it. With 9/11 and increased public awareness of what happened before it to get certain laws passed and things done, people know that there's some shady shit going on behind the curtains that we're not meant to have any interest in or awareness of.

Anyone remember the partition of Sudan in 2011? Totally oil based and allowing big businesses to get in there and get it out for cheap. Remember that on the news? It was mentioned in the UK but not frequently or for long.

Even the most hardcore tinfoil hat wearer is going to have a job explaining to someone on the street that the weather can be controlled.

Also the US dollar took a knock as the international currency when Obama increased the debt ceiling. Printing mo' money just depreciates the currency (like 1kpp doesn't go as far as it used to etc)

TL;DR - if you see Bush/Towers on a poll, be sure to vote for it :p

[Ahldagor]

Those are just possible scenarios. Sanctions come with unexpected backlash. Who is going to question mother nature? Geo-engineering being another.

Just a hint that the US could cause earthquakes and shut down your infrastructure is enough to be a deterrent as well. Nukes are just too dirty warfare is beyond that now.

People mentioned HAARP and if it is being used to manipulate or weaponize weather but there are many other uses for the technology. Weather manipulation could just be a side effect for all anyone in the public knows.

i understand that, but the game is to never show your hand. if there were a pattern of odd weather in countries with conflict with the US then it wouldn't take the international community very long to figure out what's going on. too many eye balls.

post cold war is all about technology, covert, and economic attacks.

[Swish]

Add demoralization to that as well. If you've got a spare hour or want something to watch while semi-afk camping something, give this a look (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2tUH9wDQco) (from a KGB informant who defected)

[Nihilist_santa]

i understand that, but the game is to never show your hand. if there were a pattern of odd weather in countries with conflict with the US then it wouldn't take the international community very long to figure out what's going on. too many eye balls.

post cold war is all about technology, covert, and economic attacks.

Which is exactly what weather manipulation is. We are not the only county who can do this. There is speculation that Russia, China, France and some others do this. There is a HAARP like facility in the Caribbean. Perhaps those facilities defend the US from weather manipulation?

It is all very over the public's head and sounds too sci-fi for most to believe but they would not have treaties that they ignore apparently against it if it were not possible and that was 30+ years ago the tech now probably blows that away.

Stuff everyone has suspected for years is becoming public like railguns the navy are using and there has been a lot of chatter about some type of electrical weapon that was used in Iraq and surrounding places.

[Fame]

The government has been using scalar weaponry ever since Tesla invented the concept. Agree with the guy who says look into HAARP

[Ahldagor]

Which is exactly what weather manipulation is. We are not the only county who can do this. There is speculation that Russia, China, France and some others do this. There is a HAARP like facility in the Caribbean. Perhaps those facilities defend the US from weather manipulation?

It is all very over the public's head and sounds too sci-fi for most to believe but they would not have treaties that they ignore apparently against it if it were not possible and that was 30+ years ago the tech now probably blows that away.

Stuff everyone has suspected for years is becoming public like railguns the navy are using and there has been a lot of chatter about some type of electrical weapon that was used in Iraq and surrounding places.

in terms of weather, i doubt that humans have been keeping records long enough of weather patterns to know if there's a true hiccup. because we don't know doesn't give evidence to man-made manipulation. correlation causation kind of deal (feel free to insert the cliche about waking up [i really hate the matrix but that's another thread]). also, i'm not ignoring the art of deception that swish was talking about either.

[phacemeltar]

all i know is that the clouds look and behave very differently than i remember from days of old.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

all i know is that the clouds look and behave very differently than i remember from days of old.

Chem trails imo.

[Dragonsblood1987]

This has been known about for a long time. There have been tretise against environmental manipulation since the 70s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention

And how often do laws stop the us government from doing what they want? They just call t something different and carry on. It's not environmental modification, it's ecosystem adjustment :D

[freez]

are you saying a tornado, an earthquake, a hurricane even is more destructive than a 10,000 pound atomic bomb?


lol?

[freez]

all i know is that the clouds look and behave very differently than i remember from days of old.

shut the fuck up dude, lol. seriously.

[freez]

we can create a bomb big enough to kill every man that isnt 3 miles under earth for the next 50 years. come at me weather freaks.

[Tasslehofp99]

The government has been using scalar weaponry ever since Tesla invented the concept. Agree with the guy who says look into HAARP

This.


Tesla had some ridiculous scientific theories that he claimed could be turned into weaponry and when he died the government snatched up all his research. Who knows what kind of ridiculous technology the governments have now; do you think they really allow all of their secrets to be leaked to the public? I would bet that the weaponry the US government has is a lot more scary than weather control.


Haarp machine is fucking scary shit though, and it seems as if we are messing with power that we really have no business toying with. There are a few conspiracy theorists who think that the haarp machine has already been used as a weapon in numerous instances in recent history. I believe there are folks who claim the haarp machine is responsible for some natural disasters which hit haiti, japan, and southeast asia. Seems pretty cooky to me but who knows in this world, not much suprises me anymore.


But yeah OP is old news despite being pretty scary stuff.

[Tokai Saikutsu]

welcome to the 60's .....

[HeallunRumblebelly]

This.


Tesla had some ridiculous scientific theories that he claimed could be turned into weaponry and when he died the government snatched up all his research. Who knows what kind of ridiculous technology the governments have now; do you think they really allow all of their secrets to be leaked to the public? I would bet that the weaponry the US government has is a lot more scary than weather control.


Haarp machine is fucking scary shit though, and it seems as if we are messing with power that we really have no business toying with. There are a few conspiracy theorists who think that the haarp machine has already been used as a weapon in numerous instances in recent history. I believe there are folks who claim the haarp machine is responsible for some natural disasters which hit haiti, japan, and southeast asia. Seems pretty cooky to me but who knows in this world, not much suprises me anymore.


But yeah OP is old news despite being pretty scary stuff.

Lol, yep. Had to knock those Haitians down a peg with our super weapons.

[Tasslehofp99]

Lol, yep. Had to knock those Haitians down a peg with our super weapons.

rofl it was prolly an accident or something, I bet someone got fired over it

[Swish]

this planet is a testing ground so that we can get off it. there is no happy ending for earth, but you really can't kill people totally off.. we're a cancer and we will spread make no mistake.

hopefully no black people in space

http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/thats-racist-gif-1.gif

[Swish]

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1386/97/1386979793752.gif

Etc

[phacemeltar]

we can create a bomb big enough to kill every man that isnt 3 miles under earth for the next 50 years. come at me weather freaks.

because there exists the capability does not mean it will be used. the powers that be (the "one-percent") need the human workforce (even burger-flippers like you) in order to produce energy for them.
the earth has an expiration date, so i think its safe to assume that a desire of self-preservation would have led to the pursuit for a means to escape our terrestrial prison. most of the reason for propaganda (a science developed by the nazis) such as that which you have provided is to propagate a sense of fear (a method of control used to drive production).
the general point of view for 90% of humans is that you must work really hard to make money, so that if you fall victim to some disaster (natural or unnatural) then you have a tool to ensure your survival.

there just isnt enough room for everyone on the spaceship..

[Nuggie]

more in reference to this you nimrod
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty



causing a drought to start an uprising? why do that when we can freeze assets of a country's leader/s, effectively manipulate their economy, not physically harm any of its citizens other than what they do to themselves, and get lucky if they unite and rebel against their leader/s with US economic sanctions which are generally viewed as a positive measure by the international community. the international currency is the us dollar for a reason, but lots of people are impatient now and days. unfortunately.

Between last year and the previous year the China yuan changed from 2% to 9% of global monetary exchanges. This is not an insignificant amount. The more we play games with the value of our currency the less appealing it is to other countries. Also, despite the shadow numbers the Chinese government puts forth about their economics, their economy will overtake ours. If we continue down current spending levels their currency will be worth more than ours.

Rome fell before, it will fall again.

[radditsu]

Between last year and the previous year the China yuan changed from 2% to 9% of global monetary exchanges. This is not an insignificant amount. The more we play games with the value of our currency the less appealing it is to other countries. Also, despite the shadow numbers the Chinese government puts forth about their economics, their economy will overtake ours. If we continue down current spending levels their currency will be worth more than ours.

Rome fell before, it will fall again.

Do you really think that the GDP and economic gains of China is in any way sustainable? Even now they are performing extraordinary measures to mask a huge economic slowdown. China will continue to be competitive in a monetary market...but the dollar will continue to be the safest and most stable method to store funds. Also its easier to spend.

[Ahldagor]

Between last year and the previous year the China yuan changed from 2% to 9% of global monetary exchanges. This is not an insignificant amount. The more we play games with the value of our currency the less appealing it is to other countries. Also, despite the shadow numbers the Chinese government puts forth about their economics, their economy will overtake ours. If we continue down current spending levels their currency will be worth more than ours.

Rome fell before, it will fall again.

http://data.worldbank.org/country/china

http://data.worldbank.org/country/united-states#cp_fin

some interesting data there to compare. rome didn't have the technology nor the means, but the u.s. is going to enter into post-empire slowly. slower than the u.k. did, and milk it for everything.

[Nuggie]

Bro, the point I was trying to make was that we may not be able to freeze assets of foreigners for much longer. 9% of global transactions is a huge playpen for enemies of the USA to hide in. Also, i don't think China is going to honor requests from the USA to freeze anyone's assets.

[radditsu]

One more American economic boom due to our oil reserves. Then we can start talking about the fall of empires.

[radditsu]

Bro, the point I was trying to make was that we may not be able to freeze assets of foreigners for much longer. 9% of global transactions is a huge playpen for enemies of the USA to hide in. Also, i don't think China is going to honor requests from the USA to freeze anyone's assets.

The two biggest trade Allies in the world wont find a way to make that happen?

[Nuggie]

Officially, yes. Unofficially, no. The Chinese bite their thumbs at us at every opportunity.

China wants to be the world's reserve currency. If our politicians don't get our economic house in order they will have it by 2050. I hope I'm wrong here.

Also, I'm excited to see where the current oil boom will take us. Hopefully out of debt, but that's probably a stretch.

[Brain]

It does make you wonder if the increase in earth quakes or typhoons and so forth are being caused by man-made technology to disrupt the economies their enemies.

Holy shit. No, it definitely does NOT make me wonder. There is literally a 0% chance that any government on Earth has the ability to make an earthquake or typhoon. This is the dumbest thing I've ever fucking heard, worse than global warming.

It would make sense. Weather war would be hard to trace and is far more devastating over a wider area.

A) How the fuck do you know whether it would be hard to trace or not? Humans aren't even close to having the ability to create / manipulate weather in a controlled manner. So again, how the fuck do you know whether it would be hard to trace? Holy shit you're an idiot.

B) Far more devastating? Than what? To what?

all i know is that the clouds look and behave very differently than i remember from days of old.

Perhaps you should spend less time daydreaming and staring at the clouds and more time reading a fucking science book.
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For the love of god, you fucking idiots read a few articles on wikipedia and are convinced that humanity has the ABILITY TO CONTROL THE WEATHER!!!! Do you know how absolutely ridiculous you sound? Have you guys ever taken a science course in your life (and no, reading about THC and MDMA on wikipedia and naming your character after some hallucinogenic molecule doesn't count). Stop for a second and use your fucking heads. We can't control the weather, and if we can, it won't be in our lifetime.

[phacemeltar]

Holy shit. No, it definitely does NOT make me wonder. There is literally a 0% chance that any government on Earth has the ability to make an earthquake or typhoon. This is the dumbest thing I've ever fucking heard, worse than global warming.



A) How the fuck do you know whether it would be hard to trace or not? Humans aren't even close to having the ability to create / manipulate weather in a controlled manner. So again, how the fuck do you know whether it would be hard to trace? Holy shit you're an idiot.

B) Far more devastating? Than what? To what?



Perhaps you should spend less time daydreaming and staring at the clouds and more time reading a fucking science book.
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For the love of god, you fucking idiots read a few articles on wikipedia and are convinced that humanity has the ABILITY TO CONTROL THE WEATHER!!!! Do you know how absolutely ridiculous you sound? Have you guys ever taken a science course in your life (and no, reading about THC and MDMA on wikipedia and naming your character after some hallucinogenic molecule doesn't count). Stop for a second and use your fucking heads. We can't control the weather, and if we can, it won't be in our lifetime.

please, tell me your opinions on nanotechnology

[Nihilist_santa]

Holy shit. No, it definitely does NOT make me wonder. There is literally a 0% chance that any government on Earth has the ability to make an earthquake or typhoon. This is the dumbest thing I've ever fucking heard, worse than global warming.



A) How the fuck do you know whether it would be hard to trace or not? Humans aren't even close to having the ability to create / manipulate weather in a controlled manner. So again, how the fuck do you know whether it would be hard to trace? Holy shit you're an idiot.

B) Far more devastating? Than what? To what?



Perhaps you should spend less time daydreaming and staring at the clouds and more time reading a fucking science book.
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For the love of god, you fucking idiots read a few articles on wikipedia and are convinced that humanity has the ABILITY TO CONTROL THE WEATHER!!!! Do you know how absolutely ridiculous you sound? Have you guys ever taken a science course in your life (and no, reading about THC and MDMA on wikipedia and naming your character after some hallucinogenic molecule doesn't count). Stop for a second and use your fucking heads. We can't control the weather, and if we can, it won't be in our lifetime.

This genius cant even read the link to the international treaty from the 70s but thinks he knows it all. International bodies don't dedicate time to drawing up formal policies for complete science fiction.

But please tell us more of this inside information you are privy to. :rolleyes:

[myriverse]

This genius cant even read the link to the international treaty from the 70s but thinks he knows it all. International bodies don't dedicate time to drawing up formal policies for complete science fiction.

But please tell us more of this inside information you are privy to. :rolleyes:
Bwahahahaha... you think that means anything. International bodies dedicate time to meaningless crap all of the fucking time. It's practically what they do.

Drop the tin foil.

[Brynnag]

lots of butthurt in this thread

[Iandyan]

I'm just waiting for the Sentinel camps.

[Brain]

This genius cant even read the link to the international treaty from the 70s but thinks he knows it all. International bodies don't dedicate time to drawing up formal policies for complete science fiction.

But please tell us more of this inside information you are privy to. :rolleyes:

There's a big difference between controlling the weather patterns and doing something that AFFECTS the weather. Let me explain (I'll try to use analogies that you can relate to).

1. Affecting the weather

One day Nihilist_santa wakes up and goes through his normal routine: he slowly lifts his face up so as to not remove any of his keyboard's keys, rolls over to his sink, gargles some listerine, swallows it because he is sick and read on yahooanswers that the alcohol in it will kill all his bad germs coursing through his veins. Next, he goes to his 3rd (and final) meat freezer where he keeps his stockpile of frozen delectables - unfortunately it's empty. "FUCKKKKKKKKK!" says he. Although Nihilist_santa could quite possibly live years off his own in vivo food stores, he decides to make his biannual trip to Wal-Mart where he buys thousands of dollars worth of hot pockets, Eggos, Ding-Dongs, Star Crunchs, and Smucker's pre-made PB&J sandwiches (with wheat bread, because he also read that was good for him).

Now (and this is where it gets interesting), before he actually leaves his home to go shopping, he manages to stand up and open the top shelf in his bathroom cabinet where he picks up a very old, dusty bottle of hair spray made in the 70's. He sprays a generous amount of it on the front of his head, so as to allow him to form "the wave" because he read on eHarmony that women like this hairdo.

Fast-forward a thousand years and a few molecules of the harmful chemicals in his hair spray bottle have managed to reach the ozone layer, knocking off an insignificant amount of ozone (where exactly this occurs we have no way of knowing), which in turn creates an insignificant sized hole (a size of which we have no way of knowing), which allows an insignificant amount of extra UV radiation (the amount of which we have know way of knowing) pass through to sea level where it burns your descendants while they are working as slaves. You have successfully affected the weather.

In other news, last time I was on a beach I took a piss in the ocean and I'm pretty sure I caused a Tsunami in Japan.

2. Controlling the weather

Do you know how many difference forces affect the weather? How many different variables there are in the world that control the things you're talking about (i.e. tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, landslides, etc...)?

If you answered yes, you're a fucking idiot. The correct answer is: no one does. We may have barely scratched the surface on little things (like the wind currents surrounding a tornado) but in the grand scheme of things, humanity is fucking clueless. We have NO idea how to manipulate weather in this manner and are a LONG time away from having the capability/power to do so.

[Nirgon]

tldr

Red Alert 2 already did this

[r00t]

Scalar weaponry invented hundred years ago by Tesla doesn't even compare to the extraterrestrial technology that the government is hiding

[Bardalicious]

It's foolish to underestimate how far our technology has come and how far it will go in our lifetime. The guy making huge paragraphs without factual backing of any kind made me laugh. I respect your opinion that our knowledge is infantile in the grand scheme yet, but it has come a LONG way.

[Frieza_Prexus]

International bodies don't dedicate time to drawing up formal policies for complete science fiction.

They actually do. It's mostly unemployed lawyers / fringe kooks who manage to get into international practice, but they have a shit load of sci-fi contingencies. The debates about the most miniscule of points are actually extremely fierce. It's pretty hilarious.

Source: am aerospace lawyer in my spare time getting laughed at by real lawyers.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Scalar weaponry invented hundred years ago by Tesla doesn't even compare to the extraterrestrial technology that the government is hiding

http://i.imgur.com/4TTrJ7k.gif

[moklianne]

Scalar weaponry invented hundred years ago by Tesla doesn't even compare to the extraterrestrial technology that the government is hiding

So true.

Why show your best hand when the rest of the world can't show more than two pair?

[Ahldagor]

tldr

Red Alert 2 already did this

i'm willing to bet there are more connections between fictional fun and people who think it's real cause "muh immerziin". and that's proly some effect of schools fostering inner child bullshit for the past 30 years and not dolling out corporal punishment or having the ability to present a strong authority because feeling might get hurt.

[LulzSect]

Plans? LoL.

Japan's Tsunami was a weapon test.

[Ahldagor]

Plans? LoL.

Japan's Tsunami was a weapon test.

kill kaijoo food then kaijoo starve. fatman and little boy were phase one

[Shortok]

http://www.adn.com/2014/06/03/3500302/scientists-make-last-ditch-effort.html

http://media.adn.com/smedia/2014/05/14/19/42/1qEGYg.AuSt.7.jpeg

"scientists"

[Glenzig]

The only actual form of weaponization of weather is the psychological warfare of global warming. Other than that, even though there are ways to manipulate the weather to a degree under the right circumstances, its too unstable and erratic for anyone to truly control. Too many variables.

[this user was banned]

You should be more concerned about this shit
http://sealevel.climatecentral.org/surgingseas/place/cities/FL/Miami#show=cities&center=12/25.7824/-80.2260&surge=1

[Azure]

You should be more concerned about this shit
http://sealevel.climatecentral.org/surgingseas/place/cities/FL/Miami#show=cities&center=12/25.7824/-80.2260&surge=1

Thats why in the keys you build one of these with either airlocks, or drains for when the water leaves, be on your yacht when shit is getting lame, somewhere else

http://www.monolithic.org/

fucking http://www.monolithic.org/ needs to be built everywhere morans shouldn't be allowed to build crappy in-efficient wood frame houses anymore unless they are specifically designed for the area/efficiency

but even then they generally don't come close, need to zone everything dome

[Azure]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yJfcnIFYqg#t=316

couple technology like that which has been around 75+ years with other alternative power and live more sustainable lifestyles not centered around chinese imports and seasonal living and we'd virtually eliminate our energy crisis problems

[Azure]

and it could be funded by taxpayers on the NSAs budget to see immediate affects within 40 years.

[r00t]

The only actual form of weaponization of weather is the psychological warfare of global warming. Other than that, even though there are ways to manipulate the weather to a degree under the right circumstances, its too unstable and erratic for anyone to truly control. Too many variables.

Very profound and true