I would like to point out for those who live under a rock.

[Rhuma7]

Pathing/wall detection/los detection on blue is fucked up beyond reasonable expectations.

But hey guys red99 is having gm events and has an xp bonus!

[phacemeltar]

is because they just patched it. it will probably be working again in a day or so

[Derubael]

Thanks for the Red Server promotion, I approve.

The Development work that was recently done on Red didn't affect the Development work that gets done on Blue. And prior to this change, Red hadn't seen any kind of significant development in over a year. It was all being focused on blue and Velious.

In addition to that, GM's and Dev's are two completely different departments. One is CSR, the other is coding and content. While the CSR staff may sometimes contribute to development, it's rare, and the Dev team never does CSR at all.

But hey, thanks for the thinly veiled insult to the Development team that has been volunteering thousands of hours a year over the last 5 years to bring you a free recreation of classic Everquest for you to enjoy 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. I'm sure they are happy to hear that you appreciate their hard work. Sometimes we put in 12+ hours a day doing CSR, or coding/content for the devs, so it's refreshing to hear that people really care about what we're doing.

[Derubael]

Oh, and we're aware of the problem. I believe Haynar sent through a fix in the patch the other day, but maybe it didn't clear up the problem. If it didn't, you should post that in the bug forum after doing a search to find out if its already been reported/is still being reported.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Pathing/wall detection/los detection on blue is fucked up beyond reasonable expectations.

But hey guys red99 is having gm events and has an xp bonus!

Have you considered deleting and uninstalling?

Because you should.

[Wrench]

And prior to this change, Red hadn't seen any kind of significant development in over a year. It was all being focused on blue and Velious

op is an idiot, but this is disingenuous

most if not all of the dev work (other than new raid system) gets shared between both servers

[Softcore PK]

This argument has gone on since the beginning of time lol.

Bluebies: But if you make any changes to PvP, doesn't that mean that we, the true EQ players, are given less dev attention?! This is an outrage!

Red players: We just wanted some minor tweaks. The devs do nothing but ignore us, why is it such a big deal when we get our 1 PvP patch a year?

Devs: Oh god I want to burn it all down, please kill me :(

[Derubael]

op is an idiot, but this is disingenuous

most if not all of the dev work (other than new raid system) gets shared between both servers

Right, I was referring to specific red development that would potentially effect development time on Blue.

[Wrench]

Right, I was referring to specific red development that would potentially effect development time on Blue.

do you think alectas stuff in the last 6 months is insignificant?

[Elendae]

I'm with OP. This is total bullshit and I'm taking my imaginary subscription fee to another 15 year old emulated MMO.

[Rhuma7]

Mobs casting through walls(los on end of cast) and chasing through walls has been in since day 1.

Ive learned to just deal with it but shit falling through floors just brings the rage all back.

As far as red99 goes, its just a phase. The inherent problems in eq will come to face the new players looking for something new to try and hopefully they will come back to blue instead of burning them out after grinding out all those levels.

[Rhuma7]

In fact now that i think about, damn near every wow emulator has z axis problems when warriors charge. Obviously going from a to b isnt always a straight line and i hope one day all will be fixed.

[Glenzig]

Mobs casting through walls(los on end of cast) and chasing through walls has been in since day 1.

Ive learned to just deal with it but shit falling through floors just brings the rage all back.

As far as red99 goes, its just a phase. The inherent problems in eq will come to face the new players looking for something new to try and hopefully they will come back to blue instead of burning them out after grinding out all those levels.

Not me. I hope the red population booms and stays booming. Then they can know the joys of traveling for 30+ minutes through multiple zones and realizing that the mobs you wanted to kill are permacamped. That and if both servers are nice and populated, isn't that better for the project as a whole?

[Derubael]

do you think alectas stuff in the last 6 months is insignificant?

Alecta doesn't do blue development. I think Nilbog may have pulled him to help with 1 or 2 changes (if any), but he was brought on for PvP development and nothing else.

[Ahldagor]

This argument has gone on since the beginning of time lol.

Bluebies: But if you make any changes to PvP, doesn't that mean that we, the true EQ players, are given less dev attention?! This is an outrage!

Red players: We just wanted some minor tweaks. The devs do nothing but ignore us, why is it such a big deal when we get our 1 PvP patch a year?

Devs: Oh god I want to burn it all down, please kill me :(

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSp9qutxcIahpnKlla6HqB9n8Q08O3xq uKrTRAI7MU6t_N32zmygg

realistic-bluebie support channel is now open.

[Cookiefist]

If i want pvp i will go play WoW not EQ.

[kaev]

If I want PvP I'll go down to the gym and play basketball/volleyball/whatever, no anonymity for rules lawyers and other douchebags to hide behind there.

[Pheer]

This argument has gone on since the beginning of time lol.

Bluebies: But if you make any changes to PvP, doesn't that mean that we, the true EQ players, are given less dev attention?! This is an outrage!

Red players: We just wanted some minor tweaks. The devs do nothing but ignore us, why is it such a big deal when we get our 1 PvP patch a year?

Devs: Oh god I want to burn it all down, please kill me :(

I honestly could care less how much dev time is invested into the red server, I'm just so tired of seeing threads about your server and its plight all over blue forums all day. Red players trying to keep us bluebies updated on red server drama we dont care about, begging us to play red with them, calling us pussies when that doesnt draw us over, etc. etc.

Like holy shit its like having jehovah's witnesses at your door every single day.

[myriverse]

I honestly could care less how much dev time is invested into the red server, I'm just so tired of seeing threads about your server and its plight all over blue forums all day. Red players trying to keep us bluebies updated on red server drama we dont care about, begging us to play red with them, calling us pussies when that doesnt draw us over, etc. etc.

Like holy shit its like having jehovah's witnesses at your door every single day.
Agreed.

As True Blue as I am, I want Red to be the best possible experience for those people as it can be.

I've never, even for a second, thought Devs should be doing things that benefit me more than other people. Likewise, I only play melee types and don't care how much time is devoted to caster problems. In fact, I hope as much time as possible is devoted to every aspect of P/R99. I generally trust whatever management system the Devs have in place and don't even give it a second thought.

[Stabulous]

I don't play on red because EQ isn't a PvP game and I'm not going to try to force it to be something it's not. I have other games that I play when I'm feeling some PvP and they're all much better suited to it than EQ is. EQ is my kick back and relax game.

[Khaleesi]

Thanks for the Red Server promotion, I approve.

The Development work that was recently done on Red didn't affect the Development work that gets done on Blue. And prior to this change, Red hadn't seen any kind of significant development in over a year. It was all being focused on blue and Velious.

In addition to that, GM's and Dev's are two completely different departments. One is CSR, the other is coding and content. While the CSR staff may sometimes contribute to development, it's rare, and the Dev team never does CSR at all.

But hey, thanks for the thinly veiled insult to the Development team that has been volunteering thousands of hours a year over the last 5 years to bring you a free recreation of classic Everquest for you to enjoy 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. I'm sure they are happy to hear that you appreciate their hard work. Sometimes we put in 12+ hours a day doing CSR, or coding/content for the devs, so it's refreshing to hear that people really care about what we're doing.

Wow, where's a cleverly place and timed "u mad bro" picture when you need one?

[Softcore PK]

If I want PvP I'll go down to the gym

xDI honestly could care less how much dev time is invested into the red server, I'm just so tired of seeing threads about your server and its plight all over blue forums all day. Red players trying to keep us bluebies updated on red server drama we dont care about, begging us to play red with them, calling us pussies when that doesnt draw us over, etc. etc.

Like holy shit its like having jehovah's witnesses at your door every single day.

Maybe if you weren't so busy being pussies you'd join us and come to recognize the advertisements as the blessings they are. Omg totally kidding (about you being pussies), but yeah relax about the shared forum space. If the devs really wanted us to be segregated communities we wouldn't have to share the Starting Zone forum. Honestly I think they'd be pretty happy if more red players played blue, too. Anyone playing a P99 server is a good thing!

[no chewie dont]

Like holy shit its like having jehovah's witnesses at your door every single day.

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/robn3030/jehovahs-witnesses_zpsb6ad6155.jpg

[deadlycupcakez]

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/robn3030/jehovahs-witnesses_zpsb6ad6155.jpg

I audibly chortled,

but again I cannot stand all the red hate. some of the posters on the first page genuinely sound like the children I go out of my way to avoid every day. Get over it and please show appreciation. Or dont play: we have 1400 people logging on at peak times now we truthfully do not need your participation.

[Voland]

In fact now that i think about, damn near every wow emulator has z axis problems when warriors charge. Obviously going from a to b isnt always a straight line and i hope one day all will be fixed.

Z axis is funny in EQ2 too, although it's in player's favor. You may stand on a 100ft hill with your merc and see a mob way down below. Tell merc to attack, he will jump down instantly, one-shot mob and be back at your side in 2 seconds :)

[Misek84]

I find the title of this tread and the OP really messed up. How can u be so rude and make a post like this when you are playing this game for FREE and the people making this game work are doing it for FREE. There is a difference between making issues known to the devs and being totally disrespectful considering the situation. Sorry for this rent but people who get shit for free and still complain in such a manner piss me off. If i was an admin i would ban people like you.

[Rhuma7]

I find the title of this tread and the OP really messed up. How can u be so rude and make a post like this when you are playing this game for FREE and the people making this game work are doing it for FREE. There is a difference between making issues known to the devs and being totally disrespectful considering the situation. Sorry for this rent but people who get shit for free and still complain in such a manner piss me off. If i was an admin i would ban people like you.

Hey bro, you got something on your nose.

[Kekephee]

OP could easily have been significantly less of a cunt about this considering how hard multiple people work to allow PRINCE OP to gift the rest of us with his presence on this game where only the server HE plays on matters.

[Misek84]

OP could easily have been significantly less of a cunt about this considering how hard multiple people work to allow PRINCE OP to gift the rest of us with his presence on this game where only the server HE plays on matters.

Agree 👍

[Rhuma7]

OP could easily have been significantly less of a cunt about this considering how hard multiple people work to allow PRINCE OP to gift the rest of us with his presence on this game where only the server HE plays on matters.

Look at this horse shit. Nevermind the fact the red-retards are coming to the blue forums and a good 90% of the server couldn't give a fuck less about playing on red.

How many threads on the blue server chat are "come play on red!"?

Get that shit out of here.

[Glenzig]

Look at this horse shit. Nevermind the fact the red-retards are coming to the blue forums and a good 90% of the server couldn't give a fuck less about playing on red.

How many threads on the blue server chat are "come play on red!"?

Get that shit out of here.

And you just HAVE to read them all too. Its a requirement of playing on the blue server. You have to read and respond to all posts in the Server section of the forums.

[Frug]

And you just HAVE to read them all too. Its a requirement of playing on the blue server. You have to read and respond to all posts in the Server section of the forums.

If only there was someone to take the time to complain about taking the time to complain.

[Misek84]

Look at this horse shit. Nevermind the fact the red-retards are coming to the blue forums and a good 90% of the server couldn't give a fuck less about playing on red.

How many threads on the blue server chat are "come play on red!"?

Get that shit out of here.

I play on the Blue server, personally I dont like the pvp playstyle. My comments just had to do with how rude your post is and how you come across as a spoiled brat who always wants more regardless of the situation.

[Rhuma7]

I play on the Blue server, personally I dont like the pvp playstyle. My comments just had to do with how rude your post is and how you come across as a spoiled brat who always wants more regardless of the situation.

I rustled your jimmies so bad that you had to register and tell me how you feel? lol

Glad the server staff aren't sensitive vaginas such as yourself.

This threads destined for R&F dunno why it's lasted this long in server chat.

[Misek84]

I rustled your jimmies so bad that you had to register and tell me how you feel? lol

Glad the server staff aren't sensitive vaginas such as yourself.

This threads destined for R&F dunno why it's lasted this long in server chat.

I never really post and lost pw to email used originally so made new forum account. I play under the same name on blue as my posting name here. But yea I found your post so distasteful that i wanted to make my voice heard.

[drktmplr12]

does this thread count toward this week's "im mad about red" quota?

or does it belong in the "let me bitch about something i do nothing to contribute to" section?

Who OP thinks he is:
http://community.activision.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-415221176-6371/giphy-11.gif

Who OP actually is:
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/345/125/92a.png

[Rhuma7]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b1/b17eb5fd52d968280ee4ccb308f4ef314a88dfa1b30b451ef9 3c48db94548081.jpg

[drktmplr12]

amazing.

http://i.imgur.com/ogQarGg.png

[Misek84]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b1/b17eb5fd52d968280ee4ccb308f4ef314a88dfa1b30b451ef9 3c48db94548081.jpg

Usually posting "zero f*cks given" means some f*cks were given. Just saying haha

[myriverse]

And you just HAVE to read them all too. Its a requirement of playing on the blue server. You have to read and respond to all posts in the Server section of the forums.
Every completely worthless red thread pushes another, more important, thread off the front page.

[Rhuma7]

amazing.


LOL gg man, gg

[Nirgon]

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/robn3030/jehovahs-witnesses_zpsb6ad6155.jpg

Snorted

[Kekephee]

Every completely worthless red thread pushes another, more important, thread off the front page.

Yeah the thread traffic on the server page is so bad important threads like "Saraya is a Ninja Looter" have really not been getting the traffic they deserve


Look how long threads are lasting on the front page. This is not an issue.

[Not_Kazowi]

Not me. I hope the red population booms and stays booming. Then they can know the joys of traveling for 30+ minutes through multiple zones and realizing that the mobs you wanted to kill are permacamped. That and if both servers are nice and populated, isn't that better for the project as a whole?

This mad me giggle.

You realize on red this isn't a problem because you can pvp for the mob right? There are no lines and no mob rotation. You fight for what you want and defend what you already have. The beauty of red

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Have you deleted your characters and uninstalled yet?

You should consider minesweep as your new game of choice - I hear the message boards are easy going and on-topic.

[evan1612]

How is this not RnF? It's just a thread of people taking pot shots at each other and the server they don't prefer.

[webrunner5]

If I want PvP I'll go down to the gym and play basketball/volleyball/whatever, no anonymity for rules lawyers and other douchebags to hide behind there.

A wise person. :)

[Clark]

is because they just patched it. it will probably be working again in a day or so

[Glenzig]

Every completely worthless red thread pushes another, more important, thread off the front page.

Name one important thread that has been pushed off the first page specifically by a red post.