The Spiroc Lord?

[G13]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/emil3.jpg

http://abesauer.com/__oneclick_uploads/2009/04/total-recall.gif

ENGAGE!

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/emmil2-1.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/Xzerion1.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/Emil1.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/Vittra2.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/Starklen.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/kuato_real.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/richter.gif

[Messianic]

Sorry, I don't follow this at all.

[Bossco]

Seems to be a pretty accurate rendition. A fun time was had by all =P

[Bossco]

these are actual screens as far as I can tell. Graphics in posky are such a stark change from other planes.

[G13]

Seems to be a pretty accurate rendition. A fun time was had by all =P

Yea man

All in good fun

[Aadill]

ahahaha holy crap


The Spiroc Lord is a pro movie director in his spare time~

[girth]

This thread needs sound.

[Uaellaen]

lol

[Abacab-insurection]

lol

Sup Cyrius?

[Uaellaen]

i wish :)

[Nedala]

Sup Cyrius?

fail lol

[Molitoth]

rofl. I love some Total Recall.

[Harrison]

No wonder he's such a terrible enchanter, he's spending all his time making bad pictures lol

[Sinlea]

Doin lines off my keyboard alll night long... wait, that probably wouldn't work. I guess it is now obvious I don't actually do coke.

[G13]

Doin lines off my keyboard alll night long... wait, that probably wouldn't work. I guess it is now obvious I don't actually do coke.

Yea I know

You just make really bad guesses =-P

[Straif]

This thread lacks chicks with 3 boobs.

and someone saying: "You ever fuck a mutant?"

[G13]

http://pyromaniac.com/teams/images/arizona-cardinals/total_recall_18.jpg

[Straif]

This shit is fucking official now!

Oh and /highfive IB and whoever else was tearing up PoSky

[G13]

This shit is fucking official now!

Oh and /highfive IB and whoever else was tearing up PoSky

Yea bro

The thread is more about how tough the Spiroc Lord is.

[G13]

Though you can probably just chain pet the Lord with a bunch of mages.....

Just sayin

[girth]

The thread is more about how tough the Spiroc Lord was.

:cool:

[whitebandit]

Because if IB cant down a boss within the first few attempts, make it easier

[Starklen]

http://i37.tinypic.com/2dlusf9.jpg

[whitebandit]

and then chain pet it, yay jobtik!

[G13]

Chain pet isn't legit bro

Kill that shit proper and then we'll talk

[Emoqq]

Vittra's been out of cocaine for.....

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/10/total-recall-two-weeks-490.jpg

[girth]

Chain pet isn't legit bro

Kill that shit proper and then we'll talk

Kill that shit AT ALL and then we'll talk. Pets tanked him maybe 10% of his hp. Maybe.

[Hasbinbad]

Vittra's been out of cocaine for.....

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/10/total-recall-two-weeks-490.jpg
I lol'd irl.

[G13]

Kill that shit AT ALL and then we'll talk. Pets tanked him maybe 10% of his hp. Maybe.

I don't have a horse in this race. I think it's cool he was killed, but chain pet isn't legit bro. Kill that shit proper and then much respect.

[girth]

You're an idiot. He was bugged doing way more damage than he should have been. 90-95% of his health he was on a non-pet. About as legit as it gets.

[Eternal-Elf]

My dad can beat up your dad, but only if it's LEGIT

[Gwence]

Who were you playing during the fight G13 out of curiousity?

You were probably busy "farming" isle 1 and 2 since that's the smart thing to do right?

[whitebandit]

You can say he was bugged, but you have to realize this content DOESNT have to be CLEARED and WONT be pre-kunark. Just because you guys Fail a couple of times doesnt mean you need to whine about it and have the mob nerfed.. And the fact that you are Bragging about killing it with pets, really means The spiroc Lord SHOULDNT be weakened at all, if anything he should be beefed up..

[Starklen]

You've been cordially invited to try and kill the boss with any combination of classes. I'll truly be impressed if you beat it before any nerfs come.

[whitebandit]

oh its on yo!

[girth]

I'll be surprised if they kill it after the nerfs.

[G13]

Chain pet = FAIL

Kill that shit legit bro. It doesn't matter if it's 10%, 20%, 30% ect. chain pet isn't legit. This is like a mage claiming hes uber because he can chain pet a Fire Giant or something without needing a heal. It definitely isn't classic. I don't remember people bragging they chain petted AOW or something. Like I said before, kill that shit legit and much respect. Don't chain pet and swing your cock around the boards or something. Like I said before, it's coo, he was killed, but any noob can chain pet a mob. It's not classic.

[Ektar]

Who's swinging cocks? You started this thread. Go away.

[Gwence]

lol I'll be impressed if they can even kill the trash on that isle, forget the spiroc lord.

You saw them wipe like 5 times to noble dojorn with 50'ish? Can only laugh at that.

You can say he was bugged, but you have to realize this content DOESNT have to be CLEARED and WONT be pre-kunark. Just because you guys Fail a couple of times doesnt mean you need to whine about it and have the mob nerfed.. And the fact that you are Bragging about killing it with pets, really means The spiroc Lord SHOULDNT be weakened at all, if anything he should be beefed up..

Show me one person that whined please you fucking moron. We worked at it and got it down, their was no complaints at all idiot. If you want to believe that we pet killed it that's your idiotic choice (Im sure it makes you feel better about sucking so hard all the time), but I doubt anyone on this server aside from random retards in DA actually believes anything that gets said by someone in DA.

[Xentin]

Chain pet = FAIL

Kill that shit legit bro. It doesn't matter if it's 10%, 20%, 30% ect. chain pet isn't legit. This is like a mage claiming hes uber because he can chain pet a Fire Giant or something without needing a heal. It definitely isn't classic. I don't remember people bragging they chain petted AOW or something. Like I said before, kill that shit legit and much respect. Don't chain pet and swing your cock around the boards or something. Like I said before, it's coo, he was killed, but any noob can chain pet a mob. It's not classic.

pretty sure you started this thread about him, we didnt really say jack shit about it until you started talking out of your ass. get clue and come back

[whitebandit]

we didnt wipe 5 times to him btw.. we did all the dirty work killing his 2 pets and wiped once or twice.. then you guys pulled him from under us and killed it yea..

[G13]

You guys need to relax and get some self esteem

This thread is about the difficulty of the Spiroc Lord. Trivializing content by chain petting shit just waters down the integrity of the server more than anything else. This is a game. It's a fun place. I want to see shit killed legit the way it was killed in classic EQ. Not by exploiting EMU mechanics and chain petting shit. Kill the motherfucker legit and much respect. Don't chain pet shit and claim you have l33t skills or something. As far as i'm concerned, he hasn't been killed legit yet.

[G13]

If you got him down to 80% or whatever without chain petting, like I said before, much respect. Don't fucking chain pet shit though and swing your dick aroung talking shit though. That reflects poorly more on you than anyone else. I'd rather see IB or DA or whoever kill this shit legit than to trivialize the content using cheap chain petting bullshit that didn't exist on classic.

[Starklen]

Your opinion on strategies about a mob might be valid if you'd actually attempted it once on this server.

[Gwence]

Your opinion on strategies about a mob might be valid if you'd actually attempted it once on this server.

Yea if we need leet strats on how to have Sirrian massacre our raid we'll contact you G13.

[Ektar]

why aren't I in the pictures btw.

can't I be like. hay look at my shiny sword

[Wrei]

Yo G13, instead of spouting retarded theories about how we killed him I'd focus more on actually getting up here. You know see the Spiroc Lord in the flesh and see how fun he is atm, instead of seeing cool pics of him via screenshots. I know everyone and their mom hates IB but it's seriously disappointing that you'd group us with the other guilds who'd petition their mom for being a bitch.

We came, We saw, We got our ass kicked, We kicked its ass.... end of story.

[Vierge]

u mad bro?

[Bossco]

If you got him down to 80% or whatever without chain petting, like I said before, much respect. Don't fucking chain pet shit though and swing your dick aroung talking shit though. That reflects poorly more on you than anyone else. I'd rather see IB or DA or whoever kill this shit legit than to trivialize the content using cheap chain petting bullshit that didn't exist on classic.

We got him down to about 10% left before pets took over, even then as a mage i only cast 2 pets for the whole fight. And he does 2k dps so, our ch chain was pro. Good luck coming close.

[Glitch]

"Kill that shit proper and then much respect."
"Like I said before, kill that shit legit and much respect."
"Kill the motherfucker legit and much respect"
"If you got him down to 80% or whatever without chain petting, like I said before, much respect"

MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT

[G13]

Yo G13, instead of spouting retarded theories about how we killed him I'd focus more on actually getting up here. You know see the Spiroc Lord in the flesh and see how fun he is atm, instead of seeing cool pics of him via screenshots. I know everyone and their mom hates IB but it's seriously disappointing that you'd group us with the other guilds who'd petition their mom for being a bitch.

We came, We saw, We got our ass kicked, We kicked its ass.... end of story.

Bro I don't hate IB. I want to see people kill shit here and have fun. You're attacking the messenger.

You guys are getting a chip on your shoulder because you know you didn't kill him legit. Kill the guy legit. You can throw a tantrum, and doggypile the posts with IB members trying to justify shit, back scratching, it's all good. It doesn't change the fact you exploited chain petting to kill a boss. Like I said before, I don't have a horse in this race. If you kill the guy legit, much respect, but no new ground is really being broken here in the larger scheme of things, especially if you chain pet. Any asshole can recruit 20 mages and chain pet a boss here. It's not impressive.

Don't chain pet shit bro and act like your shit doesn't stink. Getting him to 80% without chain petting isn't killing the mob. Sky is gonna be here a LONG time before Kunark. Hell, Kunark could be 6 months to a year away given the track record of content being released on this server. Guilds are going to adapt and whatnot which is to be expected. Don't water down the integrity of the server by chain petting shit you can't kill legit and than swinging your dick around the boards talking shit. Kill the shit legit. encourage others to do the same. Try and promote a friendly environment of competition on the server where everyone has fun instead of acting like a bunch of elitist douchebags and chain petting a boss.

And for the last time. I don't hate IB. You got some decent players in your guild. You guys worked hard on the Spiroc Lord. Why the fuck would you want to water down that accomplishment by chain petting the motherfucker and than claiming victory. Kind of defeats the point of working together as a guild to kill shit legit if you're just gonna give up and chain pet the bastard.

[G13]

We got him down to about 10% left before pets took over, even then as a mage i only cast 2 pets for the whole fight. And he does 2k dps so, our ch chain was pro. Good luck coming close.

90% isn't 100%

Get him 100% legit

[Glitch]

90% isn't 100%

Get him 100% legit


Much respect

[G13]

Much respect

Word

Why would you guys chain pet the boss and then demand for him to be nerfed?

Kill him the way he is now without chain petting and you win the game.

[Starklen]

Much respect for telling everyone how you'd like to kill the spiroc lord.

[Goobles]

This thread is blowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn up

[Pheer]

much respect for having much respect

[whitebandit]

I think the bottom line is Hard Raid boss should be Hard. Said raid boss should not be taken down using a exploitative tactic, but maybe using some tactics and.. teamwork?

[G13]

much respect for having much respect

<3

[Vierge]

thumbs up lets do this

[Isidro]

Just wanted to stop in and say that I have much respect for all of you. Even G13. Much respect bro.

[Pheer]

I think the bottom line is Hard Raid boss should be Hard. Said raid boss should not be taken down using a exploitative tactic, but maybe using some tactics and.. teamwork?

pretty easy to say that when you havent fought him


when youre done zerging islands we can do with 3 groups with 50 person raids come visit the spiroc lord and see how you do

[Gwence]

much respect vierge, for being vierge

[Redriot]

Let DA continue to farm islands 2 and 3 and let the few morons run their mouths. Whatever you need to say to keep morale up. Not all DA are like that however. Thank you to those who have shown class.

[Hasbinbad]

Ok so at first, G13 is all:
http://widyaperwira.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/lol.jpg

..and then, IB is all:
http://s.chakpak.com/se_images/222566_-1_564_none/angry-young-baby-lolz-wallpaper.jpg

..and then G13 is all:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff42/arrowed13/Advice-Kanye-IM-HAPPY-FOR-YOU-AND-I.jpg

..which makes IB get even more like:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7FAsUT6FePU/S6w6rC_P_qI/AAAAAAAABJQ/w6xGDbgB8BY/s1600/mad+max2.JPG

..which makes me think that G13 has had:
http://m2.wnymedia.net/files/2009/08/Borat_Great_Success.jpg

[G13]

For the record I'm not in DA

You guys are jumping to conclusions

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/jump%20to%20conclusions%20mat%202.jpg

[Icecometus]

I really don't care how mobs are killed as long as it's not with an obvious or subtle spoit. Gratz on your Kill IB.

[Glitch]

I really don't care how mobs are killed as long as it's legit. much respect on your Kill, bro.

[G13]

I really don't care how mobs are killed as long as it's legit. much respect on your Kill, bro.

<3

[Atennu]

Saying you arent DA in your fishbait tag is legit and much respect

[G13]

Saying you arent DA in your fishbait tag is legit and much respect

Who?

What?

[Hasbinbad]

This thread need less SRS and moar..

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of this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gif

[whitebandit]

http://www.dailydemotivators.com/pics/moar.jpg

[G13]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gif

NOM NOM NOM!!!!!!!!

[G13]

http://www.allproducts.com/manufacture98/eastools/supplier1.jpg

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http://www.faithfulfriendscremation.com/images/superstock_1098r-6549.medium.jpg

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http://www.dogslife.biz/images_staff/Eric_with_Aspen.jpg

VICTORY

[whitebandit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPTisNO3PG4

[Hasbinbad]

Kill that shit AT ALL and then we'll talk. Pets tanked him maybe 10% of his hp. Maybe.

You're an idiot. He was bugged doing way more damage than he should have been. 90-95% of his health he was on a non-pet. About as legit as it gets.

Who were you playing during the fight G13 out of curiousity?

You were probably busy "farming" isle 1 and 2 since that's the smart thing to do right?

You've been cordially invited to try and kill the boss with any combination of classes. I'll truly be impressed if you beat it before any nerfs come.

I'll be surprised if they kill it after the nerfs.

Who's swinging cocks? You started this thread. Go away.

lol I'll be impressed if they can even kill the trash on that isle, forget the spiroc lord.

You saw them wipe like 5 times to noble dojorn with 50'ish? Can only laugh at that.



Show me one person that whined please you fucking moron. We worked at it and got it down, their was no complaints at all idiot. If you want to believe that we pet killed it that's your idiotic choice (Im sure it makes you feel better about sucking so hard all the time), but I doubt anyone on this server aside from random retards in DA actually believes anything that gets said by someone in DA.

pretty sure you started this thread about him, we didnt really say jack shit about it until you started talking out of your ass. get clue and come back

Your opinion on strategies about a mob might be valid if you'd actually attempted it once on this server.

Yea if we need leet strats on how to have Sirrian massacre our raid we'll contact you G13.

Yo G13, instead of spouting retarded theories about how we killed him I'd focus more on actually getting up here. You know see the Spiroc Lord in the flesh and see how fun he is atm, instead of seeing cool pics of him via screenshots. I know everyone and their mom hates IB but it's seriously disappointing that you'd group us with the other guilds who'd petition their mom for being a bitch.

We came, We saw, We got our ass kicked, We kicked its ass.... end of story.

u mad bro?

We got him down to about 10% left before pets took over, even then as a mage i only cast 2 pets for the whole fight. And he does 2k dps so, our ch chain was pro. Good luck coming close.

Much respect for telling everyone how you'd like to kill the spiroc lord.

Let DA continue to farm islands 2 and 3 and let the few morons run their mouths. Whatever you need to say to keep morale up. Not all DA are like that however. Thank you to those who have shown class.

pretty easy to say that when you havent fought him


when youre done zerging islands we can do with 3 groups with 50 person raids come visit the spiroc lord and see how you do
http://i33.tinypic.com/2hdtrhf.gif

[Swarws]

Haterz gonna hate. IB gonna keep trucking in sky whether you guys cry or not. But please until you experience the encounter you should withhold comments!

B.O.B. --- Haterz Everywhere .

Swarws

[Hasbinbad]

Haterz gonna hate. IB gonna keep trucking in sky whether you guys cry or not. But please until you experience the encounter you should withhold comments!

B.O.B. --- Haterz Everywhere .

Swarws
Nobody is hating bro, gratz on your kill!

[Zithax]

herp derp

[G13]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/pets.jpg

[G13]

^^^^^ L33t SPIROC LORD STRATEGIES INC!!!!!!!!!!!!

[whitebandit]

http://www.dutch-stafford.com/Site_M/Madagascar%20Hunting%20Dog/bear-hunt.jpg

[Zithax]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/pets.jpg

LOL

[Harrison]

You guys need to relax and get some self esteem

This thread is about the difficulty of the Spiroc Lord. Trivializing content by chain petting shit just waters down the integrity of the server more than anything else. This is a game. It's a fun place. I want to see shit killed legit the way it was killed in classic EQ. Not by exploiting EMU mechanics and chain petting shit. Kill the motherfucker legit and much respect. Don't chain pet shit and claim you have l33t skills or something. As far as i'm concerned, he hasn't been killed legit yet.

You are a massive moron. Your stupidity knows no bounds.

Chain petting is not exploiting any mechanic. It is a legitimate and OLDSCHOOL tactic. Read the old mage forums. (they're still up)

You're so bad at this game that you need to try to detract from others' achievements to make yourself feel better about your lack of them.

[Eternal-Elf]

You are a massive moron. Your stupidity knows no bounds.

Chain petting is not exploiting any mechanic. It is a legitimate and OLDSCHOOL tactic. Read the old mage forums. (they're still up)

You're so bad at this game that you need to try to detract from others' achievements to make yourself feel better about your lack of them.

Burn

[girth]

I'm going to LOL sooooo hard when no other guild can kill even the nerfed version.

[Emoqq]

Actual Screenshot - Oh and seriously, no sarcasm here, Grats guys, yall busted your head against that bird, glad yall finally killed it!

http://i37.tinypic.com/sw78cy.png

[Eternal-Elf]

Hulk-Smash.......

[Zithax]

Actual Screenshot - Oh and seriously, no sarcasm here, Grats guys, yall busted your head against that bird, glad yall finally killed it!

http://i37.tinypic.com/sw78cy.png

If you shopped that yourself it's pretty sweet lol

[Uaellaen]

I'm going to LOL sooooo hard when no other guild can kill even the nerfed version.

dont see why he should get nerfed?

[Straif]

I really don't care how mobs are killed as long as it's not with an obvious or subtle spoit. Gratz on your Kill IB.

^^^^

If I was in the raid and the situation called for it, I'd be all like:
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/Shogun710/clashofthetitans4.png

Rules weren't Broken. Mobs got killed. Loot got had.
/shrug
/gratz
/muchrespect

[TigerWoods]

I like how everyone is congratulating IB and IB still be ragin'!

[Allizia]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gif


I threw up in my mouth a lot, wtf, people like that loose flabby shit?

[...Raren]

I threw up in my mouth a lot, wtf, people like that loose flabby shit?

thats why hasbinbad posted it it reminds him of Tralina

[Erasong]

ITT: gross exagerations in an attempt to downplay IB accomplishments. See chain pets and IB raging ( lol? )

Also ITT: Haters gonna hate.

[...Raren]

im gonna go ahead and stick up for IB for a minute and say that we all know IB is better then DA its no secret ive been in both guilds and yes IB is better and DA will prob never kill the spiroc lord because 80% of the guildbase is made up of just complete dumbasses but IB is still a bunch of bitches and they can go fuck themselfs :)

[Aadill]

I was watching some of the previous attempts via track... pets would disappear and come back up and disappear again... big fan of the attempts made and the final result <3

Mad props and much respect~

[...Raren]

Oh Hi Elaida ! i seen u came back!

[Rogean]

Well here's my question...

If what they did didn't work in classic, what mechanics are behaving differently than they should? What exactly is or isn't happening that would prevent chain petting from working on eqlive classic?

[...Raren]

Well here's my question...

If what they did didn't work in classic, what mechanics are behaving differently than they should? What exactly is or isn't happening that would prevent chain petting from working on eqlive classic?

there was nothing preventing it

[Erasong]

Oh Hi Elaida ! i seen u came back!

yar. wb me! whatcha ben up to?

[...Raren]

isnt charm pet killing inny or meastro or draco or ct the same thing as killing Spiroc lord with pets? you can say none of those were never intended but doesnt like every guild do it including DA?

[...Raren]

yar. wb me! whatcha ben up to?

not much man just behaving myself! getting the good lolz from this thread

[Erasong]

not much man just behaving myself! getting the good lolz from this thread

ya its a good one! i gotta bial now tho. this subnetting is kicking my ass. fuck you cisco.

[Erasong]

bail too. oh god with my typos router command syntax is >.<

[Zexa]

Yeeeeaaahhhh IB. Still inciting hate threads. And I was worried you'd all go soft!

Grats on your sword Sextar.

[Supreme]

i had a dream...

IB was wiping to a dragon

Gore...

in the woods.....

Then i woke up and realized i had a life.

So cool to argue about 9, 10, 11 year old content!

[nerfed]

Didn't pet deaths transfer the pets agro to it's owner similar to how charm breaks transfer the pets agro to the own?

[Rogean]

I'm actually getting kind of tired of seeing the "10 year old content" argument. Your either here to play it or you aren't. If you are than it doesn't matter how old the content is, you enjoy it just the same (or in this case, the drama is just the same :P)

[Rogean]

Didn't pet deaths transfer the pets agro to it's owner similar to how charm breaks transfer the pets agro to the own?

When I put the code in to do that for charmed pets I asked around to see if it applied to regular pets and told it didn't.

[G13]

You are a massive moron. Your stupidity knows no bounds.

Chain petting is not exploiting any mechanic. It is a legitimate and OLDSCHOOL tactic. Read the old mage forums. (they're still up)

You're so bad at this game that you need to try to detract from others' achievements to make yourself feel better about your lack of them.

You're right bro

I forgot how all the old school guilds back in the day chain petted the server firsts

[Remfin]

I don't know squat about the charmed pets and aggro transfer, but in EQ up to and including at least Velious (and I'm sure PoP, I just never interacted much with pet owners by then) pets couldn't hold aggro to save their lives. Even the infamous Velious bosses (with that absurd exponential aggro modifier for distance, and the exploits that came with it) wouldn't attack pets worth a damn. Being pretty much at any point above simply being "on the aggro list" would make you the target, including crap like bandaging a mage when the pet has already soloed a mob down to 50%.

Since pet taunt "worked" as much as taunt ever worked, I'm assuming they had a gigantic -% modifier to aggro generation (as opposed to a -% modifier to their current aggro value).

[Remfin]

Well since I can't edit and forgot to mention it...

Charmed pets clearly acted differently, as the Frozen Jesus could attest.

[Starklen]

You're right bro

I forgot how all the old school guilds back in the day chain petted the server firsts

Much respect for that statement.

[Rogean]

Lol at the respect stuff

Anyways,

It could be true that pet aggro generation was considerably lower than a players, or maybe even split between the pet and it's owner. Thoughts?

[Starklen]

Within the context of that fight, it wouldn't matter for a number of reasons. Not sure if you are trying to make a general change or one tailored to that specific mob.

[Erasong]

i had a dream...

IB was wiping to a dragon

Gore...

in the woods.....

Then i woke up and realized i had a life.

So cool to argue about 9, 10, 11 year old content!

Or to pipe in in a condescending way over 9, 10, 11 year old content and pretend like you are somehow above it!

[Ektar]

zexa :D


and hi supreme cool that you're working so hard on releasing your own server of 11 year old content.

I had a dream that trans was wiping to a dragon...

vox...

in a cave...

Then I woke up and realized everyone wins on supreme's candyland.

So cool to trivialize 9, 10, 11 year old content!

[Goobles]

I'm actually getting kind of tired of seeing the "10 year old content" argument. Your either here to play it or you aren't. If you are than it doesn't matter how old... the content is, you enjoy it just the same (or in this case, the drama is just the same :P)

10

Year old...

CONTENT!!!

[guineapig]

11

[Glitch]

Or to pipe in in a condescending way over 9, 10, 11 year old content and pretend like you are somehow above it!

It's not condescending.
It's Transcending!

[Straif]

This pretty much sums up the argument in this thread...

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/Shogun710/rage.jpg

[Erasong]

This pretty much sums up the argument in this thread...

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/Shogun710/rage.jpg

hahaahahaha. this is a good one.

[Falisaty]

Didn't pet deaths transfer the pets agro to it's owner similar to how charm breaks transfer the pets agro to the own?

yes it does as long as their isn't something else holding said agro u can have 10 pets tanking a mob but the first war to step in and hit it will automatically draw agro Y because PETS DON'T HOLD AGRO WORTH SHIT. That's y if u are chain petting something all ur doing is throwing pets at it not trying to nuke it down

[Ektar]

wait. WHERE did IB get a sarnak battle shield?!

and an IKSAR?!


WTF GM FAVORITISM

[Straif]

lol shit, I didn't even notice that. :o

[Beau]

ahh straif hahah that is epic.

[Arkanjil]

Lol awesome pictures

[Rogean]

yes it does as long as their isn't something else holding said agro u can have 10 pets tanking a mob but the first war to step in and hit it will automatically draw agro Y because PETS DON'T HOLD AGRO WORTH SHIT. That's y if u are chain petting something all ur doing is throwing pets at it not trying to nuke it down

Has nothing to do with the amount of aggro on the pet, it's simply due that an NPC will always attack a player in range over an npc.

[Cyrano]

You're right bro

I forgot how all the old school guilds back in the day chain petted the server firsts

At least you admit your mistakes.

Exhibit A: The first serverwide defeat of The Avatar of War

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/oldsite/arc52.html

[G13]

At least you admit your mistakes.

Exhibit A: The first serverwide defeat of The Avatar of War

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/oldsite/arc52.html

LOL @ IB now trying to compare themselves to LOS

Come on guys

[Cyrano]

LOL @ IB now trying to compare themselves to LOS

Come on guys

Lol at Bronson pretending he understands the significance of that link.

[G13]

Lol at Bronson pretending he understands the significance of that link.

I think it's hilarious you're even trying to make a comparison

[Cyrano]

Hey you're the one that said server firsts weren't done using pets. I just posted a link of the first AoW kill ever being done by using charmed giants.... much respect though.

[Straif]

Hey you're the one that said server firsts weren't done using pets. I just posted a link of the first AoW kill ever being done by using charmed giants.... much respect though.

I didn't want to post because I wasn't sure if that's what you meant or not.

But yea, we had chanters use giants to tank all the time in live.

[Cyrano]

/shrug guess your kill wasn't legit then Straif. You now get no respect until you guys go back and kill every mob using only tank n spank as that's how men do it.

[whitebandit]

I think charmed pets are a little different than spam casting pets on all of your members mage alts, but that is all i will say about it.

[Hasbinbad]

This thread needs more perspective..

Also, it needs more:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gif

[whitebandit]

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[Sinlea]

Bronson told me himself he has mad respect and he's only trying to make R+F exciting :)

[Sinlea]

That jiggly butt is horrifying... why.... do guys really like that? *shudder*

[G13]

Hey you're the one that said server firsts weren't done using pets. I just posted a link of the first AoW kill ever being done by using charmed giants.... much respect though.

I said "chain petting"

Which is true

In all seriousness though I'm just poking fun. You guys need to relax and not get so defensive and riled up. It's just a game bro~

[Cyrano]

I think charmed pets are a little different than spam casting pets on all of your members mage alts, but that is all i will say about it.

You guys bitch when we kill mobs with charmed pets as well, it's your MO. Apparently playing a mage is not considered legit while emulating the Zerg garners much respect.

Kite: you chose which side of the line you wanted to be on just like I did months ago. At the end of the day so long as you enjoy the people you play with what does it matter what another guild does if it isn't effecting you?

[Cyrano]

I said "chain petting"

Which is true

In all seriousness though I'm just poking fun. You guys need to relax and not get so defensive and riled up. It's just a game bro~

They chain petted charmed pets, how is that any different? They literally had teams whose only job was to pull suitable pets to the enchanters so they could charm them as the current tanking one was about to die.

[Hasbinbad]

That jiggly butt is horrifying... why.... do guys really like that? *shudder*
Coz it's fucking amazing!!

[Hasbinbad]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gifhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gifhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gifhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gifhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gifhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gifhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gifhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gifhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2902242311_eb54e152fc_o.gif

[Starklen]

I think charmed pets are a little different than spam casting pets on all of your members mage alts, but that is all i will say about it.

If you'd ever fought the mob, you'd realize you need a lot more than the number of pet classes we had to "chain pet" that mob down. Sadly, you'll continue to live in ignorance.

[Straif]

/shrug guess your kill wasn't legit then Straif. You now get no respect until you guys go back and kill every mob using only tank n spank as that's how men do it.

I got loot...

Loot > Cry Babies.

[Cyrano]

I agree.

[Straif]

Also...

If they didn't want you to recast pets or charm. They would of changed it a long time ago.

Respect can suck a fat cock. Mobs health reaching 0% and doing it in a way that isn't an exploit (even if it's tooth and nail, nasty chain rezzing style) is still a fucking win.

This whole argument is like seeing someone get beat the fuck down in a street fight and saying "Oh, that guy cheated."

Get the fuck outta here.

[Zenlina]

Hmmm, i thought that boss mobs (cos they tagged differently to normal mobs) that with pets going on and if the boss mob is actually agro on the pet it would auto pop the pet, thats why on live you always have to have some kind of PC on it... maybe i was imagining things..

[G13]

This whole argument is like seeing someone get beat the fuck down in a street fight and saying "Oh, that guy cheated."

Get the fuck outta here.

Who said anybody cheated?

[Atennu]

Hmmm, i thought that boss mobs (cos they tagged differently to normal mobs) that with pets going on and if the boss mob is actually agro on the pet it would auto pop the pet, thats why on live you always have to have some kind of PC on it... maybe i was imagining things..

wut?

[Straif]

I'm just saying a win is a win, a loss is a loss.

If the ultimate goal is to kill a mob and get some phat lewts, it shouldn't matter what strategy is used. As long as rules aren't broken, than the objective was obtained.

I've been in raids where we literally had 6 players left standing and finished the mob. Was it pretty? Nope it was a super sloppy finish, and other people have done a better job at it but the mob still died.

[Zenlina]

Hmmm, i thought that boss mobs (cos they tagged differently to normal mobs) that with pets going on and if the boss mob is actually agro on the pet it would auto pop the pet, thats why on live you always have to have some kind of PC on it... maybe i was imagining things..

What i mean was, cant have pet getting agro from boss because it would despawn your pet, thus why always needed PC on bosses. But perhaps a bad thing i said this because no more phinny if he sticks it on boss encounter script....

[Sidious]

It could be true that pet aggro generation was considerably lower than a players, or maybe even split between the pet and it's owner. Thoughts?

I recall pets being able to tank for players as long as they could output more threat, I believe this was changed during velious when the strat for farming some quest mob or event at the SG zone of WW involved using a single summoned pet to tank. I am too lazy to check the vintage patch notes from that era to confirm though. For some reason I also think the reason for using a pet to tank was that healing a pet generated no agro to the cleric, which is also different from here.

Necro lifetap over time spells generate ridiculous amounts of hate on p99, and very frontloaded, whereas on live they behaved more like ignite blood in terms of agro. The heal portion of it was threat, but not like you heal yourself for the full amount the moment the spell lands whether you lack hp or not. That tidbit probably belongs in bugs, but as mentioned above I am lazy.

[Eternal-Elf]

To my knowledge I don't think boss mobs attacking pets ever De-Aggroed them....

[Reiker]

Shiiiit if only I had logs of the conversations I had like 6+ months ago that went like "I bet when Plane of Sky is released everyone will cry and get it nerfed to be easier than classic."

[Harrison]

I recall pets being able to tank for players as long as they could output more threat, I believe this was changed during velious when the strat for farming some quest mob or event at the SG zone of WW involved using a single summoned pet to tank. I am too lazy to check the vintage patch notes from that era to confirm though. For some reason I also think the reason for using a pet to tank was that healing a pet generated no agro to the cleric, which is also different from here.

Necro lifetap over time spells generate ridiculous amounts of hate on p99, and very frontloaded, whereas on live they behaved more like ignite blood in terms of agro. The heal portion of it was threat, but not like you heal yourself for the full amount the moment the spell lands whether you lack hp or not. That tidbit probably belongs in bugs, but as mentioned above I am lazy.

This is true. In classic your pets could tank for you if they provided more aggro.

Earth pets tanking in groups was NOT uncommon. Warriors had shit aggro and weren't able to pull aggro from mage pets.

It wasn't changed until pretty damned late on live and was never "fixed" here to be classic.

[Harrison]

P.S. Bad enchanter crying about chaining pets, which is 100% legitimate, is "LOL".

I figured with all the crying you do you would have offed yourself by now.

[girth]

Shiiiit if only I had logs of the conversations I had like 6+ months ago that went like "I bet when Plane of Sky is released everyone will cry and get it nerfed to be easier than classic."

We aren't crying. We love it. Lord is doing way more damage than he did in classic though. About 600 per round more, and he is already being fixed next patch, yet we still felt like getting a pre-nerf kill. We are extremely proud that we killed this beefed up version.

Personally, I wish they'd leave it this way for a bit so other guilds could get a taste of this version.

[Hasbinbad]

Shiiiit if only I had logs of the conversations I had like 6+ months ago that went like "I bet when Plane of Sky is released everyone will cry and get it nerfed to be easier than classic."
For realz.. Most guilds won't even get to experience the top islands as they should be because of all the bitching "a certain guild" has done to get it nerfed..

[Ektar]

Man I'm sure glad the devs decided to add those keys to the second island onto the key master. There's no way we'd be able to progress without them changing things around for our benefit.

[Otto]

For realz.. Most guilds won't even get to experience the top islands as they should be because of all the bitching "a certain guild" has done to get it nerfed..

Pretty sure the GMs only nerf/buff/change stuff based on evidence supporting the claims individuals make.

As you said yourself, the only thing you could use to backup the claims of the instance you're talking about is your own memory. Find evidence to support it.


As far as 'all the bitching' this certain guild has done, I don't know what you're talking about. There are two posts with potential evidence on the subject, and two days of attempts to down the boss relentlessly as you already know.

Quit trying to stir shit.

[Koota]

Quit trying to stir shit.


What forum are we in, anyway? No seriously, I forget.

[Pheer]

Its pretty funny that you guys think spiroc lord should be quadding for 500s with like half a second delay between rounds. Not to mention his 603 damage AE proc. And oh yeah we can't forget the death touching.

Seriously if DA thought he was fine the way he was they'd be up there right now trying him.

[Pheer]

Its pretty funny that you guys think spiroc lord should be quadding for 500s with like half a second delay between rounds. Not to mention his 603 damage AE proc. And oh yeah we can't forget the death touching. Its noted in several different guides that hes supposed to hit for mid to high 300s.

Seriously if DA thought he was fine the way he was they'd be up there right now trying him.

[Hasbinbad]

Pretty sure the GMs only nerf/buff/change stuff based on evidence supporting the claims individuals make.
Levi cloaks.

[Otto]

What forum are we in, anyway? No seriously, I forget.

Touché

[Remfin]

I don't know the exact numbers, but assbeat Spiroc Lord was classic (I don't know if that's pre or post New Sky with the cheaper keys and coffins we have on here). Or do you guys not remember the mini-"scandal" when FoH went back up to Sky and killed Spiroc and Bazzt Zzzt after they had been silently nerfed and everyone asked them how they even knew they had been changed?

[guineapig]

For what it's worth...

In 2006 the Spiroc Lord was:
level 63 with
32,000 hit points,
a max hit of 350 and he
used Cazic Touch every 45 seconds.
His spawn lcoastion should be: -245, +760
He's aggressive, assists, does not see invis and respawns immediately upon his own death under the correct circumstances (don't want to give everything away).

To my knowledge they never changed his max hit between 99 and 2006 so it should probably be 350 on this server as well.

[Starklen]

For what it's worth...

In 2006 the Spiroc Lord was:
level 63 with
32,000 hit points,
a max hit of 350 and he
used Cazic Touch every 45 seconds.
His spawn lcoastion should be: -245, +760
He's aggressive, assists, does not see invis and respawns immediately upon his own death under the correct circumstances (don't want to give everything away).

To my knowledge they never changed his max hit between 99 and 2006 so it should probably be 350 on this server as well.

A number of those details you posted are either incorrect or certain things are omitted altogether. You can guess which.

[Uaellaen]

so how what this max hit measured? with what level? with or without gear?

[Starklen]

Errr, by attacking him? Level 50? I don't get it.

[Uaellaen]

im not asking you starklen, im asking chicanery about his 350 max hit at 2006 ... mostlikley not measured at lvl 50

[Uaellaen]

prolly parsed with a 60 war in full gear, and maximum a hand full of fights? thats not a reliable info for a mobs max hit ...

[Storklen]

Errr, by attacking him? Level 50? I don't get it.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/Starklen.jpg

[Starklen]

Haha, that's in good taste.

[Starklen]

So if you want to be sexy and bold maybe you should buy one black leather heels to fully understand what I’m saying here.

[guineapig]

im not asking you starklen, im asking chicanery about his 350 max hit at 2006 ... mostlikley not measured at lvl 50

This is most likely the case. So at level 50 it should be somewhat or substantially more.

[Ronas]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_PuZoLkvmBbc/SdUiSrilptI/AAAAAAAADM0/_koKUB1aZPQ/s320/Ernie+The+Giant+Chicken.jpg

Been Buffed?

http://www.gametimearcade.com/games/images/petervsgiantchicken.jpg

Or Nerfed?

[logiktrip]

prolly parsed with a 60 war in full gear, and maximum a hand full of fights? thats not a reliable info for a mobs max hit ...

If the warrior wasn't using a discipline (or was and provided the info), it can be.

Level is irrelevant when determining what a max hit is. Defensive or shielding will change the values, but it's still (DB + x*DI).

http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13

[Noleafclover]

Unless live was radically different, mobs will be hitting for max hit every time well before spiroc, so there's no reason that his max hit wouldn't be parsed within the first month or two of sky's opening.

And re: pets getting aggro over players - when they can ---

NPCs prefer players unless there's a radical difference between distance of pet and distance of player. As a monk I've feigned a mob onto the pet's model and then dpsed, pet tanking.
And the reason you had earth pet tanks, and that some people do, is similar to this - root aggro makes mob attack nearest if there's a "1" range difference.

[Ronas]

/bumped for the lol

[burkemi5]

you just watch this last night on TV too?

[Drowed]

I guess I was always under the impression that pet aggro was somewhat shared with the owner. As in, if I stuck my necro pet on Mob XXX, and the pet stays alive tanking for 2 minutes... then I need to chain another when my first dies, the second pet would take time to re-establish aggro over whatever aggro I had generated from the first pet.

Was that not the case?

[Daliant17447]

then I need to chain another when my first dies

you're doing it wrong

[Hobby]

If you are going to bump a old thread, you should bump the good 25 page, 30 page, long ones. This server has forgotten how to make a true RnF thread, i miss the old days =(

[azeth]

or you should bump it with news that DVDS dropped 15 SpiLos last night. can i getta hell ye

[azeth]

god dammit, *DVDA

[Lazortag]

or you should bump it with news that DVDS dropped 15 SpiLos last night. can i getta hell ye

Did it stop respawning, or is the mechanic actually working?

[azeth]

Did it stop respawning, or is the mechanic actually working?

afaik as i think most everyone can remember, and garner information, he sort of has a limitless respawn.

[Lazortag]

afaik as i think most everyone can remember, and garner information, he sort of has a limitless respawn.

I'm aware that's how it should be. Sorry I wasn't clear. My question was whether that was working completely. You seem to imply that it is now, when only very recently it was still a bit bugged, so I think I got my answer.

[Rais]

Something happened. The last 2 kills, the body poofed like it had nothing on it.

[ElanoraBryght]

DVDA
"I see what you did there." tm

[baub]

rumor has it out of the 15 spiroc..0 shaman shoulder


SOMEHOW NOT SURPRISE

[Rais]

Coldblooded got her shoulders! so 1 out of 15

[ElanoraBryght]

http://http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5501/sphinxhidemantle.png

[ElanoraBryght]

Fail.
But yes, they dropped.
I think Spiroc Sky Totem for Rogue is the only one of his rare's I haven't seen yet.

[azeth]

I think Spiroc Sky Totem for Rogue is the only one of his rare's I haven't seen yet.

story of my life

[Shannacore]

"Kill that shit proper and then much respect."
"Like I said before, kill that shit legit and much respect."
"Kill the motherfucker legit and much respect"
"If you got him down to 80% or whatever without chain petting, like I said before, much respect"

MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT

Bump because we are lol'ing about this in IRC.

Someone needs to bring the "MUCH RESPECT" meme back.

[Aadill]

I was working on it

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=341780&postcount=242

[Loke]

Bump because we are lol'ing about this in IRC.

Someone needs to bring the "MUCH RESPECT" meme back.

Getsome's rez message is still something like "much Rezspect for - [ %t ]" or something like that I think.

[Lazortag]

Bump because we are lol'ing about this in IRC.

Someone needs to bring the "MUCH RESPECT" meme back.

Can we just bring back G13? I love his posts. Especially the first 15 or so where he insists that chain petting never existed and no one even bothers to correct him. I know it's an old thread, but you gotta appreciate that level of dumb.

[G13]

I'm here bro

Have no fear

[Lazortag]

I'm here bro

Have no fear

Much respect

[Aadill]

I'm here bro

Have no fear

Much respect

Much quoting respect.

[G13]

Much respect

Word

You know I was just talking to my old EQ pals the other day at how awesome it was when FOH was on the cutting edge of EQ raiding back in the day, where they defeated content before anyone else by sitting on their asses for 8 hours a day with 50 mages chain petting everything down to victory.

Those were the days!

[Goraxx]

I liked Total Recall.

[Glitch]

LEGIT BRO

[Aadill]

NO PONY POST

NO PONY POST.


NO
PONY
POST

wtf Glitch I thought we were pals?

[Glitch]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmv286EtKm1qjpsa6o1_500.gif

"herd those bunnies proper and then much respect."
"Like I said before, herd those bunnies legit and much respect."
"round up those motherfuckers legit and much respect"


MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT

[Aadill]

respect

Much.

[G13]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmv286EtKm1qjpsa6o1_500.gif

"herd those bunnies proper and then much respect."
"Like I said before, herd those bunnies legit and much respect."
"round up those motherfuckers legit and much respect"


MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT
MUCH RESPECT

I approve

much respect

[Aadill]

I cannot stop watching this. I'm saying the words out loud and pounding my fist on my desk while watching the pony's mouth. So therapeutic.

[Sinlea]

So glad this thread is back. lol

[Salty]

I don't know the exact numbers, but assbeat Spiroc Lord was classic (I don't know if that's pre or post New Sky with the cheaper keys and coffins we have on here). Or do you guys not remember the mini-"scandal" when FoH went back up to Sky and killed Spiroc and Bazzt Zzzt after they had been silently nerfed and everyone asked them how they even knew they had been changed?

GMs would despawn the last bee boss so FoH couldn't kill it.

Same thing happened with first Nagafen.

[azeth]

so many respects in this thread.

much respect

[Bubbles]

Getsome's rez message is still something like "much Rezspect for - [ %t ]" or something like that I think.
^^^
lmao.

[Zenlina]

/bump for the lols

[Sinlea]

lolllll