Azrael recruiting

[Colgate]

no he hadn't gotten a free aon on his level 1 yet and had been refusing to actually play the game until he got a character handed to him for no effort. funny now that he talks shit about people taking the easy road

naw i got a troll SK to level 16 in like the first 3 or 4 days of the server being up, went out of town for 2 days, came back and got left behind with no one to group with, quit, then was about to come back a few weeks later and holocaust got deleted

[vouss]

Doors are you implying Red Dawn doesn't count as real competition?

[Stalos_]

Sword of rile -- Jizzar
Shroud of veeshan -- Plagueis
Shield of elder -- kinetic

and thanks!

You see Nizzar, you need to kill the dragon to get the loot. You did not kill this dragon. Azrael did. I know you must be going through an emotional time right now. But denial only passes with acceptance.

[Stalos_]

http://i.imgur.com/CfXcinY.jpg

[Feniggles]

remember that guild you served forever... Oh wait, you still do. By recruiting nonstop while being the majority of the server, they've ensured anyone outside of nilly gathers very minimal exposure to VP, and thus has limited knowledge. Can't be too surprised about people having misunderstandings of the zone, and arriving at alternative conclusions. You should know better, as we thought you'd be an asset when we went to VP, but it turns out all you knew was how to AFK at the zoneline as knowledgeable players brought dragons for you to mallet.


Shit happens, pras the staff.

Watch the video, we killed PD with no assistance. ( thank god u weren't there to fuck it up this time ) Luckily I dont see Phara Dar being on your allowance ever... so don't worry about it.

If nihilum didn't have such historically disgusting whistles, perhaps other assumptions would have been made. Just my 2 cents.

remember that guild you keep trying to run every three months? new players will never come to this server saying "i want to join azrael". YOU, YOUR GUILD, YOUR CLIQUE, single handely run people off this server in droves. so F U C K Y O U

[Jenni D]

seems cray both sides still arguing about gm favouritism.

one guild has had a dev in it for a long time. who gives a shit?
increase the peace pals

[vouss]

Fennigles people never quit because of Azrael, they leave us to Nihilum then RMT to Sektors and quit, almost always

[iiNGloriouS]

Azrael basically bailed on RD leeched members then decided to fuck them over when CT was up and Nihilum wasn't there. Maybe if the guild wasn't full of douchebags RD wouldn't be allied with Nihilum.

Oh well though. RD still wipes out dragons and Azrael can't kill shit when there's actual competition. Going to be the same story in Velious.

Brokab, Stoopy, Jibeknn and Brobb. So many people poached. SO MANY PEOPLE. Oh wait

Jibeknn and Brobb only, Stoopy and Brokab left before because they knew this was bound to come.

[vouss]

Brobb wasn't poached either. Tune got mad at Cjeckraise because Brobb was pvping with Azrael so Checkraise asked Brobb to stop pvp'ing Nihilum. Brobb detagged and Checkraise went out of his way to try and corpse camp Brobb in VP. Hardly poached so much as handed to us.

[vouss]

Jibeknn de-tagged Red Dawn as soon as he found out they were raiding with Nihilum 90 vs 20. It took 0 convincing from us here In Azrael )))

[Buhbuh]

Jibeknn de-tagged Red Dawn as soon as he found out they were raiding with Nihilum 90 vs 20. It took 0 convincing from us here In Azrael )))

i blame obama

[Smedy]

november 2011 seems like it would have been a great time for a wipe
march 2013 next best thing tho

[iiNGloriouS]

Jibeknn de-tagged Red Dawn as soon as he found out they were raiding with Nihilum 90 vs 20. It took 0 convincing from us here In Azrael )))

Oh I know. But let them think we "poached" them because their playstyle on a red server is absolutely pathetic.

[Liten]

We are human beings, we make mistakes.

A petition was sent in and we arrived in VP. We see two mobs planted in a room that normally has only PD. We assume they are bugged, and the mobs are de-popped. While we are still in the room, the group of players is hit with a train and wiped out. Before we are able to ascertain how those mobs aggro'd, they had reset, so we were unable to check their hate-list.

We knew there were two players FD outside the door, and we wanted to rule out an opposing forces train as a possibility for the aggro. 2 or 3 players were res'd. Upon zoning in, the wyrm that paths near the door aggro's the force again. The pathing on that wyrm is bugged, and in the process of aggroing people through the door, he paths back into the hallway and aggro's the rest of the mobs in the room (thus the train that previously wiped the group). This train wipes the group again, and two players receive res's. This would be our mistake. VP is a no-csr zone, and even though the players died to a bug (mobs should not aggro through doors in VP, as it is an indoor zone and LoS Aggro checks should apply), after the pathing test was complete, the res'd players should not have been re-res'd.

We did not res an entire raid. We did not open any doors. The mobs were de-popped because we believed them to be bugged. After realizing what had actually happened, we weren't even sure it was a legitimate tactic, but later decided it was. You can extrapolate your own conclusions from what happened, but do not come here or go in game and insinuate that a GM is affiliated with any guild. Sirken and myself are not allowed to have player characters on either server - to suggest that one of us is playing for any side is ridiculous and untrue.

Furthermore, if you do firmly believe there is evidence of favortism being shown, this forum is not the place to air those grievances. We have a petition forum, and if you don't trust that, Nilbog or Rogean's PM box, where those kinds of concerns can be sent. I am unsure as to where these additional circumstances and accusations of favortism are coming from (several of you have voiced concern that there have been multiple 'sketchy' happenings), because as far as I know this is the first time this has occurred.

We are not infallible. Sometimes we make bad calls, or are flat out wrong. We ask that people take this into account before making blanket statements in regards to our decisions.

Thank you. Mistakes happen, but without an explanation like this, it's very hard to know.

/mysig

[Fame]

november 2011 seems like it would have been a great time for a wipe
march 2013 next best thing tho

Still livin in the past brah?

[marie]

Azrael basically bailed on RD leeched members then decided to fuck them over when CT was up and Nihilum wasn't there. Maybe if the guild wasn't full of douchebags RD wouldn't be allied with Nihilum.

Oh well though. RD still wipes out dragons and Azrael can't kill shit when there's actual competition. Going to be the same story in Velious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6fy-IYNeJk

20 azrael v 30 nihilum isnt competition?

[Elderan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6fy-IYNeJk

20 azrael v 30 nihilum isnt competition?

You keep saying this but you guys were hiding from us. As soon as we cleared enough mobs to come at you, you zoned and logged.

Lets face it, you killed PD but without GMs assistance you would not have before we got to you.

[marie]

Eldermoran if you have 8 apples, you eat one, and give 3 to your pals, how many apples do you have left

[Sektor]

7

[Elderan]

Eldermoran if you have 8 apples, you eat one, and give 3 to your pals, how many apples do you have left

Anytime you want to compare your resume to mine please feel free. I am sure we would all enjoy a good laugh.

Be that in game or real life.

[Kinamara]

We are human beings, we make mistakes.

A petition was sent in and we arrived in VP. We see two mobs planted in a room that normally has only PD. We assume they are bugged, and the mobs are de-popped. While we are still in the room, the group of players is hit with a train and wiped out. Before we are able to ascertain how those mobs aggro'd, they had reset, so we were unable to check their hate-list.

We knew there were two players FD outside the door, and we wanted to rule out an opposing forces train as a possibility for the aggro. 2 or 3 players were res'd. Upon zoning in, the wyrm that paths near the door aggro's the force again. The pathing on that wyrm is bugged, and in the process of aggroing people through the door, he paths back into the hallway and aggro's the rest of the mobs in the room (thus the train that previously wiped the group). This train wipes the group again, and two players receive res's. This would be our mistake. VP is a no-csr zone, and even though the players died to a bug (mobs should not aggro through doors in VP, as it is an indoor zone and LoS Aggro checks should apply), after the pathing test was complete, the res'd players should not have been re-res'd.

We did not res an entire raid. We did not open any doors. The mobs were de-popped because we believed them to be bugged. After realizing what had actually happened, we weren't even sure it was a legitimate tactic, but later decided it was. You can extrapolate your own conclusions from what happened, but do not come here or go in game and insinuate that a GM is affiliated with any guild. Sirken and myself are not allowed to have player characters on either server - to suggest that one of us is playing for any side is ridiculous and untrue.

Furthermore, if you do firmly believe there is evidence of favortism being shown, this forum is not the place to air those grievances. We have a petition forum, and if you don't trust that, Nilbog or Rogean's PM box, where those kinds of concerns can be sent. I am unsure as to where these additional circumstances and accusations of favortism are coming from (several of you have voiced concern that there have been multiple 'sketchy' happenings), because as far as I know this is the first time this has occurred.

We are not infallible. Sometimes we make bad calls, or are flat out wrong. We ask that people take this into account before making blanket statements in regards to our decisions.

Shit happens.

But if this was really a mistake, GMs would remove the Phara dar items from the game, which those players in this case should never have had.

Was it done?

[Juhstin]

Anytime you want to compare your resume to mine please feel free. I am sure we would all enjoy a good laugh.

Be that in game or real life.

I'm 4 inches unbuffed. Get on my level

[Sektor]

Shit happens.

But if this was really a mistake, GMs would remove the Phara dar items from the game, which those players in this case should never have had.

Was it done?

Shut the hell up moron.

[vouss]

kinamaara why would the GM's penalize players for their mistake, lol

also @ elderan, you guys take for ever to clear through VP jesus, like hour - hour and a half? didn't realize you have to kill siverwing and hoshkar to get to phara dar's room - if that was azrael would of been on you in 10 minutes for sure

[Elderan]

kinamaara why would the GM's penalize players for their mistake, lol

also @ elderan, you guys take for ever to clear through VP jesus, like hour - hour and a half? didn't realize you have to kill siverwing and hoshkar to get to phara dar's room - if that was azrael would of been on you in 10 minutes for sure

With 10 mobs sure..

See the difference is Nihilum gets banned for training where Azrael doesn't.

[Kinamara]

kinamaara why would the GM's penalize players for their mistake, lol

also @ elderan, you guys take for ever to clear through VP jesus, like hour - hour and a half? didn't realize you have to kill siverwing and hoshkar to get to phara dar's room - if that was azrael would of been on you in 10 minutes for sure

There's nothing personal about that. It is simply that Azrael would never had got those items if it was not for GMs intervening with the game.

They did, Azrael got the items and GMs apologized for the mistake.

It's pretty damn easy to undo the mistake though, so if it isn't undone, it's like saying "sorry, but i'm not sorry."

[krazyGlue]

/popcorn lots of butt hurt people here

[marie]

Anytime you want to compare your resume to mine please feel free. I am sure we would all enjoy a good laugh.

Be that in game or real life.

wrong the answer was 4 apples. holy shit you are bad with numbers

[Barladore]

There's nothing personal about that. It is simply that Azrael would never had got those items if it was not for GMs intervening with the game.

They did, Azrael got the items and GMs apologized for the mistake.

It's pretty damn easy to undo the mistake though, so if it isn't undone, it's like saying "sorry, but i'm not sorry."

Lololol You are such a whiney little pussy. Grow up

[Smedy]

Azrael should have their pixels removed for gm mistake





























Nihilum should also have all pixels removed since nov 2011 due to gm mistake

[Kinamara]

don't like the arguement so it's more fun to flame? =p

[Awwalike]

Lololol do you have any idea how much of a whining pussy you sound like?

nizzar says no pixels being handed out until each guild member spends 10 hours forum questing against vp event

[Feniggles]

Buffalo Sabres should of won 1999 stanely cup, brett motherfucking hulls skate was in the crease.

[Sektor]

don't like the arguement so it's more fun to flame? =p

No you're an idiot and this is the type of toxic behavior that makes both Nilly and Azrael members look bad. My god the amount of RallyD posts here are sickening, get over yourselves.

[Kinamara]

there's nothing toxic about not wanting to see GMs giving away items from the highest mob in game on a pvp server.

Shit like this makes me not want to play, I have this feeling, others may feel the same way.

[Stasis01]

If stealing your cleric title away wasn't enough, I doubt PD loot will be, you're addicted to the core.

PS is that new Dev going to be joining Nihi? Nizz probably hooking that dude UP.

[Kinamara]

Yaw I'm so addicted bro.

http://i.imgur.com/dE3QMjZ.png

I'm one of those dudes causing -1 population lately.

Seeing shit like this on the forum doesn't make me want to play again and would make me warn others asking about p99 red to play here.

Anyway flame on, I hope GMs can see through all the personal attacks and make justice happen

[vouss]

there's nothing toxic about not wanting to see GMs giving away items from the highest mob in game on a pvp server.

Only thing worse then that would be them giving away items and banning another guild for same thing they gave pixels 2 the other guild for

will miss ez kills on your shit necro btw

[Awwalike]

Lololol You are such a whiney little pussy. Grow up

[Stasis01]

I bet those numbers sky rocket in Velious, the fact that you're BIS and only show up to PD(which is why you're raging) is irrelevant.

The real sickness is the people with high raid attendance with BIS, what is wrong with you freaks.

[Liten]

Don't care about the items, shitty drops anyway. Keep em.

The main reason we didn't try and get to you guys with silverwing and hoskar up is because the big risk in training you while doing it. Much due too the two mob we had spawned there. And the risk of you guys getting PD with em up before that was very very slim. Hard for us to know you made a gm despawn them for you and ress you three times.

The bottom line of all this is.... After your first wipe, Az would have gotten a coffin CR to VP either by calling LnS or waiting until we left the zone. Now that didn't happen and the thing that saved you from this was a GM mistake, noting else. So stop trying to paint this as some big victory for you as a guild, you earned noting of this, the end.

Time to get drunk in Karlskrona, a thing most of you never will!

Skål!

[Stasis01]

PS I haven't logged in a week, much like smoking - it's 100x better already.

GM's crushed the lowbie/mid game pop with the exp nerf that was our only chance of bringing new people in and different end game guild dynamics.

I hope the lowbie community is thriving from this nerf(I know it isn't), because the 52-60 grind will be basically unplayable except by extreme degenerates.

Model your box for extreme degenerate basement dwellers, wonder why everyones a degenerate basement dweller, that's how the red99 GM's do it.

[Colgate]

something funny about kinamara's sig .gif that talks about other people being bluebie crybabies, and the only time he ever posts is to cry about when pve doesn't go his way on elf sim

[vouss]

Az would have gotten a coffin CR to VP either by calling LnS or waiting until we left the zone.

lol you are awful at this game

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[Awwalike]

pixels were had azrael victory thanks for playing

[Stasis01]

Kina was never happier than when it was a 50 pop box with 35 Nihi on, no PNP, crushing lowbies in planar trash gear and getting 100% of uncontested raid mobs.

Guys a fucking loser, the end, hence all his hypocrisy.

[vouss]

funny you say that stasis, him (kinamaara's necromancer) and Ricardo were the first level 60 characters I killed after hitting 52 on beastagor, Qazzaz's necro the 3rd.

[Awwalike]

Kina was never happier than when it was a 50 pop box with 35 Nihi on, no PNP, crushing lowbies in planar trash gear and getting 100% of uncontested raid mobs.

Guys a fucking loser, the end, hence all his hypocrisy.

kinamara some nerd that got PL'd to 60 in lguk when pop was 14 hasn't gotten a yt in elf sim career just sell your acct already

[Kinamara]

Shit happens.

But if this was really a mistake, GMs would remove the Phara dar items from the game, which those players in this case should never have had.

Was it done?

Sound, logic arguement presented. Since this: the people in my sig joins thread and are mad and fill it with garbage.

It sucks to be wrong.

[vouss]

why would the GM's punish the players for their mistake?

[Bazia]

quoting yourself lol

don't worry we didn't give a fuck about your post this time either

[Awwalike]

don't worry we didn't give a fuck about your post this time either

[Stasis01]

Kina's world crushed over 1 PD.

Shows how invested, both emotionally and time.

Gynos post should have read this is the distilled server of all the BASEMENT DWELLING ADDICTED LOSERS.

Like the RL dollar paying disability FREAK SHOW.

[Barladore]

Sound, logic arguement presented. Since this: the people in my sig joins thread and are mad and fill it with garbage.

It sucks to be wrong.

What sucks is that no one will engage you in your argument because it would put them at risk of looking like a low life, crybaby, immature degenerate - much like yourself.

[Kinamara]

Noone will engage in my arguement, because I'm right.

[vouss]

but duke we have 90 people in our alliance, why does azrael get PD?!?

[Liten]

lol you are awful at this game

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I am? :(

Not going in to a forum war with you Salem, I actually like you in game. You're not really the same person on forum and ooc sadly. You did wipe and without GM help you would not have gotten PD, we can at least agree on that?

/mysig

[Stasis01]

Noone will engage in my arguement, because I'm right.

Don't know where the GM's/normal human beings rank rectifying the injustice of PD being killed by another guild.

I'd rank it below taking my morning shit.

[Colgate]

Sound, logic arguement presented. Since this: the people in my sig joins thread and are mad and fill it with garbage.

It sucks to be wrong.

yeah man, i'm mad that you didn't kill an elf sim dragon

haha you got me!

[Kinamara]

I've got no problem with another guild killing PD if done legit. I'd support that idea. I just don't support the idea of GMs granting another guild access to PD without pvp over it. They'd probably not openly state that it was a fuck-up either, if it wasn't. Now things just need to be made right again.

[Sektor]

there's nothing toxic about not wanting to see GMs giving away items from the highest mob in game on a pvp server.

Shit like this makes me not want to play, I have this feeling, others may feel the same way.

When you decide to quit send me a message Thanks

[heartbrand]

Delete the loot, raid suspend azrael, hand out bans or suspensions to leadership. Only two days prior the guild leadership sanctioned the intentional training of vox. Now they attempt to manipulate and deceive the server staff. They have a history of boxing / ghosting, real life attacks etc. Azrael is stunting the growth of our server and this latest disgusting attack on server integrity is a threat to the future of the box.

[Elderan]

Delete the loot, raid suspend azrael, hand out bans or suspensions to leadership. Only two days prior the guild leadership sanctioned the intentional training of vox. Now they attempt to manipulate and deceive the server staff. They have a history of boxing / ghosting, real life attacks etc. Azrael is stunting the growth of our server and this latest disgusting attack on server integrity is a threat to the future of the box.

What I don't get is the PNP was specifically put into place to prevent griefing and bind camping.

Yet this is done almost daily to Red Dawn from Azrael in Neriak. In fact Azrael killed Red Dawn almost 120 times a few days back doing the exact thing the PNP was put into place to prevent.

Yet they have eaten ZERO suspensions or bans.

[Colgate]

lot of anger being posted by people who didn't kill a dragon 1 out of 150 times it spawned

GO OUTSIDE

[Kergan]

why would the GM's punish the players for their mistake?

Yeah like if all of a sudden all the banned accounts became accessible due to a mistake? Nobody should be punished I agree.

[Kergan]

When you decide to quit send me a message Thanks

lol

[krazyGlue]

/popcorn

[krazyGlue]

Jimmies rustled azrael mission complete

[Bamz4l]

if gm claim mistake, then that's a legit strategy? Like park a bee on isle 1?

[Barladore]

Delete the loot, raid suspend azrael, hand out bans or suspensions to leadership. Only two days prior the guild leadership sanctioned the intentional training of vox. Now they attempt to manipulate and deceive the server staff. They have a history of boxing / ghosting, real life attacks etc. Azrael is stunting the growth of our server and this latest disgusting attack on server integrity is a threat to the future of the box.

I took you for a rational man.

[krazyGlue]

Pras bees. Azrael has alot of work to do pals bat phones will be going off.

[SamwiseRed]

for a guild who has been getting raid mobs uncontested for years now, i find it pretty amusing that they would be so upset over another guild getting the same. ya'll are truely sick in the head. seek psychological help and for god's sake get on some meds.

[Elderan]

Jimmies rustled azrael mission complete

I love have people use this to negate a valid point without having to offer any legitimate counter.

Every time I see this to me it just says "I cannot counter your point so I will just ignore it."

[Elderan]

for a guild who has been getting raid mobs uncontested for years now, i find it pretty amusing that they would be so upset over another guild getting the same. ya'll are truely sick in the head. seek psychological help and for god's sake get on some meds.


No gms have ever clear mobs and ressed us to allow us to kill a dragon.

[SamwiseRed]

instead of killing azreal with a 70+ raid you do some weird tactics with mob spawns to prevent them from killing a raid mob. how is this contesting through pvp? if i had a those kinda of numbers on my side i would have crushed the opposition, not dick around with pve mechanics. this is a pvp server. if you would have solved this through PVP this would not have been an issue.

quit training, quit bsing. fucking fight for the mob or go back to blue where you can contest dragons through pve.

[Elderan]

instead of killing azreal with a 60+ raid you do some weird tactics with mob spawns to prevent them from killing a raid mob. how is this contesting thruogh pvp? if i had a those kinda of numbers on my side i would have crushed the opposition, not dick around with pve mechanics. this is a pvp server. if you would have solved this through PVP we would not have an issue.

You don't understand VP do you?

The risk of running 30 people past 2 dragons and 40 mobs to them was too great. We are Nihilum. If we accidentally train ONE mob we will be BANNED you just don't get how overly cautious we have to be.


Our tactic worked fine. It was to delay them so we can kill them once the dragons were dead. The GMS INTERFERED and allowed them to kill PD. We were no more than 5 min behind them killing PD, they all zoned out and logged.

[SamwiseRed]

5 minutes too late it sounds. sorry the gms intervened. if it was up to me there would be no gms intervening and no rules. shit is to open to interpretation as is any game. i just cant believe the outrage. its not that serious.

[Dacuk]

it is pretty funny funny seeing this kinamaraa kid complaining about people crying and has just nonstop tears coming down her face this entire thread.

also pras samwise with his logic.

[Elderan]

5 minutes too late it sounds. sorry the gms intervened. if it was up to me there would be no gms intervening and no rules. shit is to open to interpretation as is any game. i just cant believe the outrage. its not that serious.

It is not the idea they got PD. In the over scheme of things it is not a big deal and no one in Nihilum has said the dragon itself was a big deal.

The problem is idea of GM help. Once you open that door it is very hard to close.

[SamwiseRed]

and you are right, ive never been to vp on red99. i have no idea how jacked up it is however the whole thing sounds shady. i remember clearing our way to nilly a few times in sol b, killing everything along the way so that we dont train mobs in with us. not even a week later nilly runs straight to us with spiders and bats and pvps. ya'll just dont care.

you guys just have a different mentality than me i guess. you guys will try to win by any means necessary, even if it means using dirty or forbidden tactics or absorbing the competition. i on the other hand get no satisfaction of winnning if it isnt done legit. its that min/maxer attitude that has ruined games for me in the past. all maphackers and chicken TPers in diablo ii, all the botting in every mmo, all the hacking in fps. before i write a novel. ill stop.

old school gamers just trying to have fun here but butthurt neckbeards trying to ruin a good thing. at the end of the day its just a game. i wish it wasn't so serious for some of you. i think the only way to truely enjoy this game is to never visit the forums ever again and block ooc. too bad im addicted to forumquesting or i would totally do it too.

[SamwiseRed]

also since i dont understand vp please explain to me, how did 30 azrael get past 70+ nilly/rd? not trolling, seriously asking.

[heartbrand]

You don't understand VP do you?

The risk of running 30 people past 2 dragons and 40 mobs to them was too great. We are Nihilum. If we accidentally train ONE mob we will be BANNED you just don't get how overly cautious we have to be.


Our tactic worked fine. It was to delay them so we can kill them once the dragons were dead. The GMS INTERFERED and allowed them to kill PD. We were no more than 5 min behind them killing PD, they all zoned out and logged.

In all fairness rallyd blatantly trained a KC group last night with zero fucks given by him.

[mostbitter]

samwise doesn't even play and hasn't tried in over a year. he's just trying to stir the pot cus he has nothing better do to with himself.

[Tradesonred]

samwise doesn't even play and hasn't tried in over a year. he's just trying to stir the pot cus he has nothing better do to with himself.

Attack the messenger when he dislikes the message, mostbitter's trademark

[mostbitter]

Probably a better trademark than crying about losing a fungi in a group where everyone rolled. Then holding a grudge against the person who happened to win it, after quitting the box.

[Tradesonred]

Probably a better trademark than crying about losing a fungi in a group where everyone rolled. Then holding a grudge against the person who happened to win it, after quitting the box.

Again, attacking the messenger instead of debating the message

The question being, is it greedy to have clothies and a war that will not wear it roll against a shaman main from your guild who is wearing a bloodstained tunic?

[mostbitter]

ok fine, samwise message is stupid cus he has never been in vp. he later ADMITS himself he has no idea what happens in the zone and has no experience to speak of. He wasn't involved and shouldn't be running his mouth about it cause he doesn't know a fucking thing that happened, could have happened, or would have happened. The gm's stance on this is counter to his own and the thread would have been better for him not posting dribble. Satisfied?

[mostbitter]

Also you're a whiny dingleberry who prefers to cry for years instead of manning up and playing the game with the rest of us. Instead all you do is denounce the server and the decisions made by the staff. Fuck off.

[Tradesonred]

Also you're a whiny dingleberry who prefers to cry for years instead of manning up and playing the game with the rest of us. Instead all you do is denounce the server and the decisions made by the staff. Fuck off.

Again, dodging the question wether or not its greedy for clothies and a war who will not wear a fungi to roll vs a guild sham whos been in the guild for months, does group pvp with the guild etc...

Everyone knows youre a greedy scumbag though, those 2 fungis that got stripped from you mattered so much to you that you spammmed phones of people who are in afghanistan for them

[heartbrand]

Sorry guys, tunak and ecoli have managed to take this entertaining thread and throw it down the shitter. Nothing to see here any more in this thread as it's stock plummets.

[mostbitter]

you mean a fair weather douche who quit after not being handed a fungi on his first trip to seb, who felt like he deserved a fungi more than the main tank of said guild, who still doesn't understand what good a fungi is for a warrior on a pvp server? You didn't even have a critical spot in that group. We had a cleric healing and had invited you so you could get exp and all you have done to say thanks to us is call us scum for over a year.


Let me fill you in on a secret, ALL of the big time warriors on this server have a fungi, because its FUCKING ESSENTIAL FOR WARRIORS ON A PVP SERVER YOU STUPID SHIT BAG.

[Tradesonred]

Sorry guys, tunak and ecoli have managed to take this entertaining thread and throw it down the shitter. Nothing to see here any more in this thread as it's stock plummets.

Yes, because elevating the discussion beyond ad hominems, and pointing this out is taking it down the shitter

[mostbitter]

It was much more interesting reading the opinions of people that don't play the game.

[Tradesonred]

you mean a fair weather douche who quit after not being handed a fungi on his first trip to seb, who felt like he deserved a fungi more than the main tank of said guild, who still doesn't understand what good a fungi is for a warrior on a pvp server? You didn't even have a critical spot in that group. We had a cleric healing and had invited you so you could get exp and all you have done to say thanks to us is call us scum for over a year.


Let me fill you in on a secret, ALL of the big time warriors on this server have a fungi, because its FUCKING ESSENTIAL FOR WARRIORS ON A PVP SERVER YOU STUPID SHIT BAG.

Mostbitter is discussing in bad faith, i got a fungi rolled on months before once again from guildies in Seb (Valentin, another melee who was already wearing one won the roll) it wasnt my first time in Seb thats just nonsense.

Hes a compulsive liar, at this point heartbrand is right though, if i continue this discussion with mostbitter it will lead nowhere and shit up this high quality thread, snicker snicker.

[Stalos_]

Sorry guys, tunak and ecoli have managed to take this entertaining thread and throw it down the shitter. Nothing to see here any more in this thread as it's stock plummets.

As if you screaming for bans is an any better read.

Maybe you and Nizzar should recruit more, this seems to be a fix all.
Embarrassing


Tldr: underling boss off 90 toon Zerg calling for bans to solve problem of losing one dragon.

Ps: if you're a part of this Zerg embarrassment and want out, send tell pals

[mostbitter]

Again, attacking the messenger instead of debating the message



P.S. Valentin is a magician and you are retarded.

[heartbrand]

As if you screaming for bans is an any better read.

Maybe you and Nizzar should recruit more, this seems to be a fix all.
Embarrassing


Tldr: underling boss off 90 toon Zerg calling for bans to solve problem of losing one dragon.

Ps: if you're a part of this Zerg embarrassment and want out, send tell pals

Anyone ever seen Stalos in game? Don't remember him in classic, don't remember him in kunark. Oh, he's anotther one of these dudes who rolled on the server two years in, leveled in seclusion, now talks on the forums? Ok. Cool story, thanks for your insights.

[Kergan]

Anyone ever seen Stalos in game? Don't remember him in classic, don't remember him in kunark. Oh, he's anotther one of these dudes who rolled on the server two years in, leveled in seclusion, now talks on the forums? Ok. Cool story, thanks for your insights.

Just like me!

[Kergan]

if gm claim mistake, then that's a legit strategy? Like park a bee on isle 1?

Strategy confirmed legit.

[Tradesonred]

P.S. Valentin is a magician and you are retarded.

Im sorry heartbrand, this is entertaining me

So, hes a magician... and that illustrates what?

[Faerie]

Azrael has made it clear that they are the current "bad guys" of the server, and have turned to griefing underleveled Red Dawn where and when they can out of frustration as a response to the rest of the server working together at times (which came about as a response to Azrael's actions...).

That said, it seems silly to insist that Azrael lied to the GMs and conned them into spawning PD for them. Deru's account paints a very messy picture for all involved, and while it's possible that Azrael did lie to an extent there is not enough evidence to punish them as a guild. It seems most likely that Azrael is telling the truth. VP sounds confusing as hell.

The GMs made a mistake, which will happen from time to time, and Azrael got the chance to kill PD when they shouldn't have. Azrael should (and I'm sure they will, as it's kind of ridiculous to suggest otherwise) get to keep the loot. There's no reason to punish Azrael for a GM mistake, though there is plenty of reason to punish Azrael for other things.

imo

[mostbitter]

Anyone ever seen Stalos in game? Don't remember him in classic, don't remember him in kunark. Oh, he's anotther one of these dudes who rolled on the server two years in, leveled in seclusion, now talks on the forums? Ok. Cool story, thanks for your insights.

Stalos is jezibell, one of the cool dudes in azrael, except he has had a lot of kool aid since I left the guild. He has been around but he is euro. Save those comments for colgate, samewise, ecoli, and nirgon please and thank you.

[Tradesonred]

So Mostbitter, what does Valentin being a magician have to do with anything?

[heartbrand]

Never heard of him

[mostbitter]

Azrael has made it clear that they are the current "bad guys" of the server, and have turned to griefing underleveled Red Dawn where and when they can out of frustration as a response to the rest of the server working together at times (which came about as a response to Azrael's actions...).

That said, it seems silly to insist that Azrael lied to the GMs and conned them into spawning PD for them. Deru's account paints a very messy picture for all involved, and while it's possible that Azrael did lie to an extent there is not enough evidence to punish them as a guild. It seems most likely that Azrael is telling the truth. VP sounds confusing as hell.

The GMs made a mistake, which will happen from time to time, and Azrael got the chance to kill PD when they shouldn't have. Azrael should (and I'm sure they will, as it's kind of ridiculous to suggest otherwise) get to keep the loot. There's no reason to punish Azrael for a GM mistake, though there is plenty of reason to punish Azrael for other things.

imo

Sorry pal the trend here is to punish people who abuse GM mistakes/server errors see the great red jail break thread for more proof.







Mostbitter is discussing in bad faith, i got a fungi rolled on months before once again from guildies in Seb (Valentin, another melee who was already wearing one won the roll) it wasnt my first time in Seb thats just nonsense.

Hes a compulsive liar, at this point heartbrand is right though, if i continue this discussion with mostbitter it will lead nowhere and shit up this high quality thread, snicker snicker.

(Valentin, another melee who was already wearing one won the roll)
(Valentin, another melee who was already wearing one won the roll)
(Valentin, another melee who was already wearing one won the roll)
(Valentin, another melee who was already wearing one won the roll)



Im sorry heartbrand, this is entertaining me

So, hes a magician... and that illustrates what?



Illustrates that you're as smart as a sack of rocks and your memory of events isn't as clear as you believe it to be.

[Tradesonred]

Mostbitter is discussing in bad faith, i got a fungi rolled on months before once again from guildies in Seb (Valentin, another melee who was already wearing one won the roll) it wasnt my first time in Seb thats just nonsense.


Heres that quote in context

You know what punctuation is for Mostbitter?

Heres what the quote means in baby talk so you can understand:

Valentin was the guildy who rolled against me i was talking about, another melee that was already wearing one in the group won the roll

[Stalos_]

Anyone ever seen Stalos in game? Don't remember him in classic, don't remember him in kunark. Oh, he's anotther one of these dudes who rolled on the server two years in, leveled in seclusion, now talks on the forums? Ok. Cool story, thanks for your insights.

I'm on inbetween school, work, and bottle feeding my infant/diaper changes.
This was entirely accurate and not exactly sure what the point was. Thanks for sharing your thought process though.

[Tradesonred]

You probably understood what i meant though, you were just looking for an opportunity to attack the messenger, that thing you do.

[Tradesonred]

I'm on inbetween school, work, and bottle feeding my infant/diaper changes.
This was entirely accurate and not exactly sure what the point was. Thanks for sharing your thought process though.

Hey dude, one of the few stand up guys in Azrael, hope life is treating you allrite

[mostbitter]

Well you are stupid as shit if you don't understand that was the rule that everyone in azrael went with at the time and still think that I'm the sole problem that kept you from being GIVEN a fungi just for showing up a couple times when I was 8 months into farming them watching all those same fuckwads do the same shit to me that you're so mad about.



In conclusion you're a greedy fucking twat who likes to project on other people and that is why you got to the point where you didn't want to play on the server. Thats right a useless cunt shaman with a bad attitude ain't gonna be making friends and that is all you are.

[Tradesonred]

Well you are stupid as shit if you don't understand that was the rule that everyone in azrael went with at the time and still think that I'm the sole problem that kept you from being GIVEN a fungi just for showing up a couple times when I was 8 months into farming them watching all those same fuckwads do the same shit to me that you're so mad about.



In conclusion you're a greedy fucking twat who likes to project on other people and that is why you got to the point where you didn't want to play on the server. Thats right a useless cunt shaman with a bad attitude ain't gonna be making friends and that is all you are.

Maybe you can spam my phone at 4am and be my friend, i would like that

I could use a lesson or 2 in making friends mostbitter, will you teach me

Im sure youre a ladykiller with that charming wit of yours

[mostbitter]

Lucky for me I don't need friends to be needed since I play a more desirable class now. You want to act like a super douche? Roll a warrior or a cleric.

[Faerie]

Sorry pal the trend here is to punish people who abuse GM mistakes/server errors see the great red jail break thread for more proof.

Those were two entirely different scenarios, and to compare them makes no sense. If a dragon is spawned by the GMs for a raid, they are expected to kill it and hand out loot. If permabanned characters become unbanned without a word from the GMs and devs, the correct response is not to immediately strip them of all items and money in preparation of the reapplication of the bans. Friend.

[mostbitter]

entirely different like gms goofed and players took advantage entirely different?

[heartbrand]

This was 100% an attempt to deceive GM's, but shrug. Due to their mistake they've forced themselves into a lose-lose scenario. If they do the "right" thing and delete the gear and respawn PD, hand out punishments to AZ, then they will likely grief off AZ from the server. If they don't do anything, they grief off a few Nihilum members, but for the most part they'll keep playing, albeit bitter and frustrated with the staff. This is why intervention must always be cautiously and judiciously be applied.

[Faerie]

entirely different like gms goofed and players took advantage entirely different?

Don't pretend you're unable to differentiate between vaguely similar situations and events- I believe you're smarter than that :)

[mostbitter]

Az knew what the deal was and did it anyway because those dude's don't care about how their actions impact other people ESPECIALLY the staff that run this project. They blame the staff for everything that has ever happened to them and convince everyone in their guild that the staff is corrupt and working against them and have even brought it to the forum in the past.

Now that they can't do that publicly they are falsifying petitions in order to make the staff look bad so that they can get more players believing that bull shit.

[mostbitter]

Don't pretend you're unable to differentiate between vaguely similar situations and events- I believe you're smarter than that :)

the similarities aren't as vague in my opinion as they are in yours.

[Bamz4l]

lol page 36 2 fools fighting over dried fungis

[Tradesonred]

lol page 36 2 fools fighting over dried fungis

lol Bamzal still being a big dum dum, whats new scooby doo?

http://s29.postimg.org/4e1s1i6if/taxes.jpg

Hows the libertarian fight against the man treating ya Bamzal

[Stalos_]

Hey dude, one of the few stand up guys in Azrael, hope life is treating you allrite

Thank you kindly

[Stalos_]

Fact: I was on meso for PD fight and will vouch for innocence of guild. No one in teamspeak considered the wurm to be a Nihilum strategy before petitioning. We thought this was just our luck. A fricking bugged mob stopping us from beating EQ kunark. If anyone has been in Azrael teamspeak, you'd know there is zero filter for anyone, people think out loud and clutter that bitch up till it's unusable.

There was no great deception. Relax .

Also thanks max for the kinds words

[Nizzarr]

I appreciate Derudog's and Sirkdog's candor and honesty. They don't need to apologize, they do a good job dealing with a bunch of autistic FAGGOTS that inhabit our beloved box. Red99 is literally the distilled retardation of every Everquest server.

On another note though, Azrael and it's leadership has shown they will petition under false pretenses to the staff regarding a feature of the game that they are completely aware of in order to trick the staff into assisting them.

Not only should this be investigated it should be punished. Lite has personally spawned dragons on top of the VP zone in before in order to try and screw with Nihilum. He knew exactly what those mobs were doing there and purposefully lied to the staff.

Pras the staff, Pras the Emperor, and Pras the Duke.

bump

[Nizzarr]

Delete the loot, raid suspend azrael, hand out bans or suspensions to leadership. Only two days prior the guild leadership sanctioned the intentional training of vox. Now they attempt to manipulate and deceive the server staff. They have a history of boxing / ghosting, real life attacks etc. Azrael is stunting the growth of our server and this latest disgusting attack on server integrity is a threat to the future of the box.

bump #2

[Nirgon]

We must KILL the Batman(uel)

[vouss]

they camp out in the back to avoid pvp

lol the wealth of misinformation here, has anyone other then nizzar honestly been past the zone in in VP?

we moved up into phara dar's room while there was 5 nihilum on, bout 45~ minutes later they zoned in behind us with 30 people and started killing dragons

[iiNGloriouS]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1979717_10151947773831814_317765665_n.jpg

[Polz]

Azrael has made it clear that they are the current "bad guys" of the server, and have turned to griefing underleveled Red Dawn where and when they can out of frustration as a response to the rest of the server working together at times (which came about as a response to Azrael's actions...).

Just sayin, your guild leader could have changed your guild bind at any point over the last three weeks. If other guilds kept parking themselves at our guild bind i would rebind and so would the guild. Blind following the blind.

[Labanen]

has anyone other then nizzar honestly been past the zone in in VP?Yeah, the majority of us has seen the most of the zone.

[Faerie]

Just sayin, your guild leader could have changed your guild bind at any point over the last three weeks. If other guilds kept parking themselves at our guild bind i would rebind and so would the guild. Blind following the blind.

I'm not in Red Dawn, but I don't understand how your griefy actions are their fault.

[Tradesonred]

Lite all "if u see any suspicious activity, call the homeland security" while Az being Box central was some of the funniest shit ive read on forums.

Doesnt beat "More lucky than exploit" though

[Rallyd]

why would the GM's punish the players for their mistake?

I love how this guy posts this, then back when the GM's free'd every bannned account (their mistake) took it out on the players and banned every account who entered the same zone as a banned character.

Can you say Hypocrisy?

[Bazia]

I love how this guy posts this, then back when the GM's free'd every bannned account (their mistake) took it out on the players and banned every account who entered the same zone as a banned character.

Can you say Hypocrisy?

Would you say people exploiting IP exemption for years and not being banned was a GM mistake?

[Eslade]

Can you say Hypocrisy?


you say Hypocrisy?


say Hypocrisy?


Hypocrisy?

[Rallyd]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liten View Post

The main reason we didn't try and get to you guys with silverwing and hoskar up is because the big risk in training you while doing it. Much due too the two mob we had spawned there. And the risk of you guys getting PD with em up before that was very very slim. Hard for us to know you made a gm despawn them for you and ress you three times.

The bottom line of all this is.... After your first wipe, Az would have gotten a coffin CR to VP either by calling LnS or waiting until we left the zone. Now that didn't happen and the thing that saved you from this was a GM,

So stop trying to paint this as some big victory for you as a guild, you earned noting of this, the end.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Littlegyno 10.0 View Post

On another note though, Azrael and it's leadership has shown they will petition under false pretenses to the staff regarding a feature of the game that they are completely aware of in order to trick the staff into assisting them.

Lite has personally spawned dragons on top of the VP zone in before in order to try and screw with Nihilum. He knew exactly what those mobs were doing there and purposefully lied to the staff.

Not only should this be investigated it should be punished.
Quote:
Originally Posted by heartbrand View Post
Delete the loot, raid suspend azrael, hand out bans or suspensions to leadership. Only two days prior the guild leadership sanctioned the intentional training of vox. Now they attempt to manipulate and deceive the server staff. They have a history of boxing / ghosting, real life attacks etc. Azrael is stunting the growth of our server and this latest disgusting attack on server integrity is a threat to the future of the box.

[Bazia]

In reference to Emumu or whatever

Cmon mang u know what im sayin

[krazyGlue]

Damn this thread still alive ? Rustle mania

[vouss]

Was it a mistake of the GM's to log on to your banned accounts and instantly start transfering stuff on to your unabnned characters? Nah

[Eslade]

Damn this thread still alive ? Rustle mania

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130315204259/twobestfriendsplay/images/c/c3/Rustle-mania.jpg

https://d1fj4sro0cm5nu.cloudfront.net/global/images/teams/64978.5.jpg

https://i.canvasugc.com/ugc/original/fadac0bbd0c34c7e7c98ea481c9ef2231e87aa86.jpg

[krazyGlue]

Awww yiss !

[Tradesonred]

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130315204259/twobestfriendsplay/images/c/c3/Rustle-mania.jpg

https://d1fj4sro0cm5nu.cloudfront.net/global/images/teams/64978.5.jpg

https://i.canvasugc.com/ugc/original/fadac0bbd0c34c7e7c98ea481c9ef2231e87aa86.jpg

Ok im probably the one who thinks the most this rustle shit is retarded and even I laughed at this one

[krazyGlue]

Oh yiss

[Eslade]

Oh yiss

https://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/q/image/1373/44/1373445960231.jpg

[krazyGlue]

Their all mine

[krazyGlue]

All day

[Eslade]

Their all mine

http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/5/7/7/4/9/original/one-does-not-simply-rustle-ones-jimmies.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mtjw7qfA0vE/UJay15EGnbI/AAAAAAAAGbQ/HsyIQiKpKzw/s640/orangutan-jimmies-rustled.jpg

[mostbitter]

calling rettiwalk this is a gif off

[krazyGlue]

.

[Eslade]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/249/850/83f.jpg

[Eslade]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/253/044/cf8.jpg

[Faerie]

Why are they apes? I don't understand :O

[mostbitter]

can't rustle this jimmy, it is in the wrong place

[krazyGlue]

Batphones known to rustle jimmies

[mostbitter]

oh i thought it didnt matter cus u could just block it?

[krazyGlue]

Yes you can . And how is your quest to get your account back coming along ?

[quido]

I love how this guy posts this, then back when the GM's free'd every bannned account (their mistake) took it out on the players and banned every account who entered the same zone as a banned character.

Can you say Hypocrisy?

So if the staff accidentally disabled the "one IP, one client" setting, it would be Ok to two-box until they fix it? No, you're being purposely dense, even for a 30-year-old virgin wigger living with his parents. The point is your players are still culpable for trying to shirk what was obviously meant to still be a ban. It's not like Azrael followed up a staff mistake by breaking the rules. Your actions speak louder than your words; the fact that you IMMEDIATELY schlepped ALL this gear - millions - off these banned accounts that were obviously still supposed to be banned means you knew it was obviously a temporary mistake.

The parallel doesn't fit.

Azrael followed up a staff mistake with business as usual. Nihilum followed up a staff mistake with obviously underhanded actions and the hope of evasion.

[krazyGlue]

.

[Fame]

Pras Az on their noble and just victory

[Awwalike]

nihilum loses 1 dragon and cries for 44 pages about how azrael should be banned



hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah





go outside

[Sirken]

Those were two entirely different scenarios, and to compare them makes no sense. If a dragon is spawned by the GMs for a raid, they are expected to kill it and hand out loot. If permabanned characters become unbanned without a word from the GMs and devs, the correct response is not to immediately strip them of all items and money in preparation of the reapplication of the bans. Friend.

hi, please re-read the post Derubael posted. at no time in VP did we ever pop, spawn, or create mobs. at no time in VP did we open doors. and at no time in VP did we rezz the entire raid party.

We are human beings, we make mistakes.

A petition was sent in and we arrived in VP. We see two mobs planted in a room that normally has only PD. We assume they are bugged, and the mobs are de-popped. While we are still in the room, the group of players is hit with a train and wiped out. Before we are able to ascertain how those mobs aggro'd, they had reset, so we were unable to check their hate-list.

We knew there were two players FD outside the door, and we wanted to rule out an opposing forces train as a possibility for the aggro. 2 or 3 players were res'd. Upon zoning in, the wyrm that paths near the door aggro's the force again. The pathing on that wyrm is bugged, and in the process of aggroing people through the door, he paths back into the hallway and aggro's the rest of the mobs in the room (thus the train that previously wiped the group). This train wipes the group again, and two players receive res's. This would be our mistake. VP is a no-csr zone, and even though the players died to a bug (mobs should not aggro through doors in VP, as it is an indoor zone and LoS Aggro checks should apply), after the pathing test was complete, the res'd players should not have been re-res'd.

We did not res an entire raid. We did not open any doors. The mobs were de-popped because we believed them to be bugged. After realizing what had actually happened, we weren't even sure it was a legitimate tactic, but later decided it was. You can extrapolate your own conclusions from what happened, but do not come here or go in game and insinuate that a GM is affiliated with any guild. Sirken and myself are not allowed to have player characters on either server - to suggest that one of us is playing for any side is ridiculous and untrue.

Furthermore, if you do firmly believe there is evidence of favortism being shown, this forum is not the place to air those grievances. We have a petition forum, and if you don't trust that, Nilbog or Rogean's PM box, where those kinds of concerns can be sent. I am unsure as to where these additional circumstances and accusations of favortism are coming from (several of you have voiced concern that there have been multiple 'sketchy' happenings), because as far as I know this is the first time this has occurred.

We are not infallible. Sometimes we make bad calls, or are flat out wrong. We ask that people take this into account before making blanket statements in regards to our decisions.

[Sirken]

(while) we do the best we can, we arent going to be right 100% of the time because nobody is perfect. but when we screw up, we will admit it, and we will apologize for it.