Thank you Derubael/Sirken

[Silent]

Well despite there not being enough low levels to make it their fast enough as Thepen and others did ports, But other 60s were determined to kill it regardless of level bracket gm event. Either way congrats everything, good kills. The DT's were pretty funny, was interesting seeing the rez rushing going at it, not sure how much hp it had total, I did see one wizard nuke drop it 13% though.

Grats all to their loots, I won jboots very luckily with 997 and 5+ other 900+ rolls. after a little incident with someone linking jboots just as peg cloak rolls went off, thank you sirken for sorting it :). Rest of loot was peg cloak, stave of shielding. Hopefully next time we can do it on lowbies the right way, but I understand the rush for GM event loot.

http://i.imgur.com/tETcUEr.jpg

[Buhbuh]

interesting that your /who list doesn't include Utanven (or any of the Nihilum that rolled in after his death), who was basically given a stave of shielding.

otherwise, good times were had. just need to be more fair to actual contributors. Thepen and those lowbies he brought, a few other lowbies (apparently including Jupe), and a group of Red Dawn dropped VS.

not quite sure why those Nihilum members were given a chance to roll (regardless of their feelings on the subject). seems like a glaring disregard for the lowbies and other people involved that took all those exp deaths.

perhaps even the GMs take Nihilum's stance and feel it was unfair to other low level players on the way to the event when we came at the mob so heavily with high 50s, but the mob did die by the low level and Red Dawn players there, and we were in the process of randoming it all off before Utanven and his Nihilum pals came to slay the Red Dawn present surrounding the corpse.

the whole situation was kind of poorly handled by GMs, in my opinion.

so yknow QQ mad bad sad etc etc 12 year old responses cry moar faggot blow jobs to checkraise scum of the earth yadda yadda thread devolving into nothing

but yeah.

[Buhbuh]

so yknow QQ mad bad sad

[Gaffin 7.0]

kill urself

[BigHurb]

ill kill u all

[Azure]

Awww missed it.

[Tradesonred]

so yknow QQ mad bad sad etc etc 12 year old responses cry moar faggot blow jobs to checkraise scum of the earth yadda yadda thread devolving into nothing

but yeah.

[Thepen]

Pretty awesome that GMs ask 60s to come help, then allow Nihilum to kill everyone after the mob dies. On top of that, you allow those said Nihilum to roll on the VS loot and WIN when they had nothing to do with the actual kill. ON TOP OF THAT, the people who helped in the fight and died to pvp, got no rez and no chance to roll on the drops. Seems fair. Next time I won't play my porter and help randoms get to the event to have fun.

Given the chance after the fact, I'd have paid an enormous amount of plat to avoid participating in this event, as it was once again just an opportunity for Nihilum to screw over the rest of the server while the GMs watch and laugh.

Good job turning a good idea into something toxic Deru/Sirken. At this point you're pissing more people off than making them happy with these events.

[Gaffin 7.0]

thats pretty sad

[Buhbuh]

Pretty awesome that GMs ask 60s to come help, then allow Nihilum to kill everyone after the mob dies. On top of that, you allow those said Nihilum to roll on the VS loot and WIN when they had nothing to do with the actual kill. ON TOP OF THAT, the people who helped in the fight and died to pvp, got no rez and no chance to roll on the drops. Seems fair. Next time I won't play my porter and help randoms get to the event to have fun.

Given the chance after the fact, I'd have paid an enormous amount of plat to avoid participating in this event, as it was once again just an opportunity for Nihilum to screw over the rest of the server while the GMs watch and laugh.

Good job turning a good idea into something toxic Deru/Sirken. At this point you're pissing more people off than making them happy with these events.

Thepen and I don't even like each other as of recent, and this is basically how I saw what happened at the end. I had access on the corpse (playing Brea). I kept it locked, and when Nihilum came to shit stomp, I looted the staff to keep them from jacking all the loot on the corpse (the guise being the only item we had legitimately /random 100'd for between all players present for the kill at that point).

Seemed overall pretty damn shady. You can spin that we mostly killed VS with higher levels, but lowbies WERE present and the mob DID die to us. No Nihilum whatsoever even damaged the mob, let alone were in the zone for its death. Yet somehow one of their members received the only droppable, arguably most valuable piece of loot from the mob.

[Gaffin 7.0]

why da fuk do events always happen after like 11pm my time. ugh

[Mac Dretti]

Gm event at 4am?

Today, 04:09 AM

[Gaffin 7.0]

lol do u ppl not sleep

[Thepen]

(the guise being the only item we had legitimately /random 100'd for between all players present for the kill at that point).

I was one of the few helping kill VS, as you can see in the SS and I didn't get to roll for the guise. Just saying. Died at docks waiting around for a decision to be made on loot and didn't get myself back until the guise was gone.

[Buhbuh]

I didn't see your corpse, but I was chain rezzing a lot of people, even after Nihilum got there. Should have sent me a tell. I saw you up near the end and assumed you were still there.

[Kazi]

I logged after I found derubael a second time and realized it was all Kunark lore questions and I would never be able to answer one. What happened?

[Thepen]

Heh, I really didn't care at the time. I assumed only level 20-50 was allowed to roll. I just ported myself back and looted my corpse. When I got there I saw everything was being rolled on and that's when I got pissed and rage logged.

[Silent]

Should have known people would have been mad, Basically gotta go with the flow. You guys went after a mob intended for a 20-40 bracket by jumping the gun on 2 groups of 60s. I brought my character in level range because I thought itd be fun, Only to get there and theres already 2 groups of RD spam rez rushing it.

That screenshot does not show the entire story, just at 3% Venril Sathir poofed(I assume sirken or derubael were playing him since he ran away or hid) I had him targeted the entire time and then when there were 20+ in the zone VS came back to docks to be killed as if they didn't want him to die yet. As for pvp, I wasn't on a 60 so I don't know. But maybe people were angry you tried ruining a 20-40 GM event when they said 60s should help heal/buff not form their own group and try to take all the loot for themselves. Somewhere there is reasoning behind why sirken let everyone there at the time roll for the items. Either way bla bla bla, I didn't get a guise bla bla bla, I ninja looted a SoS and was forced to cough it up bla bla bla.

Thanks for the event.

[Pudge]

Guys, I wasn't there, and it sounds like it could have been handled a little bit better. But you have to give the GMs a break. They are doing fun unique events and since they haven't ran the events before, they're not going to have a contingency plan for everything.

I still support the feedback on how it could have been better. Just dont see a reason to hate on the event/GMs

[Sektor]

Jupe is an asswipe is what I got out of this.

[Silent]

Sektors mad over this? Not sure why, Were you the one on Brea who looted the staff and had to fork it over when sirken put his foot down, instead of thinking you got it cause you looted it? Otherwise ide say you have no business since you were not there!

[Jenni D]

Sure is great to see pixels from gm events going to those in dire need of upgrades and such things

Loooool

[Humerox]

I'm sure all the complaining really motivates them to do it again, lol.

[Fame]

loooooooooool

[Sektor]

Sektors mad over this? Not sure why, Were you the one on Brea who looted the staff and had to fork it over when sirken put his foot down, instead of thinking you got it cause you looted it? Otherwise ide say you have no business since you were not there!

got my own cleric don't need access to brea. Not mad at all. Certain toxic Nilly members pulling a quick one and sabotaged a gm event they weren't even apart of. Can't really blame the GMs on this tho. A lot of bad apples in all guilds I guess.

[Fame]

P99 - the "P" is for Priorities!

[Buhbuh]

Sektors mad over this? Not sure why, Were you the one on Brea who looted the staff and had to fork it over when sirken put his foot down, instead of thinking you got it cause you looted it? Otherwise ide say you have no business since you were not there!

i'm guessing you didn't read any of this thread.

i was on brea, locking the corpse. Denz won the guise with the highest roll of 90. i looted the staff only after nihilum bum rushed everyone with rains. I could have just as easily destroyed jboots, lev cloak on brea and re-looted them out of spite for Nihilum being so shitty about not being there for the mob.

i also already have a stave? so... there's that. when has anyone here known me to be a greedy player?

the event was fun, but it got handled poorly when GM intervention came into play. that's all. I'm being critical of what occurred, that's it. i have no use for an SoS on Waspnado or Brea or even to sell one for more shit. i would have rather it gone to someone that was present for the kill and/ a legitimate lowbie. 30k would make their ability to level a lot easier.

do you really expect people to believe that you killed the people there out of righteousness and for a better cause? or is it just simply that you wanted to make it your version of "fair"?

we were perfectly content randoming those items off, as we had started doing to lowbies and RD alike, until you came along wanting a piece of it all.

The mob was down, meaning the event was finished, meaning everyone with a nihilum tag had no right to be there when the loot got divvied up.

this is perfectly logical.

it's like me buying a house in my name with intent to live in it and then the bank deciding that they want someone else to live in it: "but thanks for buying it for this other guy."

it made absolutely no sense. i'm fine with it, it's just a shitty thing to do, and a bad call.

[Utanven]

The Gm event started approx. 4 hours before this VS was spawned. Me and my group had been chasing all over norrath for hours on different characters participating. When we got to oasis VS was at 14% and going down to high level players. This is a pvp server so pvp happened (gms never said not to pvp). Then Sirken said roll... You all started rolling including RD 60s who wouldn't use a SOS. The crying/complaints/toxicity only started after you lost... We didn't get to roll the guise but your still not happy...for someone who doesn't care give it a rest. That is all.

[Buhbuh]

bro, we're old bros. i've got no beef with you. grats on your loot. i'm simply saying the GMs shouldn't have made that call at all.

If you wanna go the route of 'PvP happened,' that's fine. But follow it to its logical conclusions if that's how you wanna imagine it -- I looted the stave because our group got the exp and because PvP happened, thus it was ours (Denz's).

If you think PvP over the corpse was even remotely cool, then the threat of being perma-banned by Sirken for looting the stave and not speaking up was pure nonsense.

i honestly don't care about the stave, bro. grats.

i care about the principle behind it. it's unethical, and it made no sense. regardless of whether or not you feel aggrieved by my disapproval of the situation isn't the issue, it's the fact that the call was made, that the intervention was deemed appropriate in that capacity in the first place.

[Bazia]

I think there should be a GM event that lasts 2 years where the exp is restored and PNP is removed.

Also exp loss reinstated.

[sprinkle16]

Pretty awesome that GMs ask 60s to come help, then allow Nihilum to kill everyone after the mob dies. On top of that, you allow those said Nihilum to roll on the VS loot and WIN when they had nothing to do with the actual kill. ON TOP OF THAT, the people who helped in the fight and died to pvp, got no rez and no chance to roll on the drops. Seems fair. Next time I won't play my porter and help randoms get to the event to have fun.

Given the chance after the fact, I'd have paid an enormous amount of plat to avoid participating in this event, as it was once again just an opportunity for Nihilum to screw over the rest of the server while the GMs watch and laugh.

Good job turning a good idea into something toxic Deru/Sirken. At this point you're pissing more people off than making them happy with these events.

thx for reminding me of why I should never ever play here

ps, pen nice guy.