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Lune
03-04-2014, 02:58 PM
This is something I've never conclusively understood, and I've been unable to find clear answers searching the forums.

I'm trying to decide between Ebon Mace (http://wiki.project1999.com/Ebon_Mace) and Rod of Mourning (http://wiki.project1999.com/Rod_of_Mourning) for my new SK when he's soloing.

These two weapons have similar ratios, .79 and .80. Is there something inherent in the damage tables for 2handers that will make them perform better than a 1h with the same ratio?

I'm a sucker for iksars so my 2h will not have slam.

I know the Rod has a proc but I'm ignoring that for the time being. I'll keep a 1h and shield around for when I'm tanking in groups, anyway.

Man0warr
03-04-2014, 03:14 PM
2h has higher riposte damage.

Lojik
03-04-2014, 03:16 PM
One thing is for sure, and that is 1h and 2h animations will be the same for you.

Lune
03-05-2014, 01:32 PM
One thing is for sure, and that is 1h and 2h animations will be the same for you.

2hb, luckily I think even iksars know how to do the bop-and-poke

baalzy
03-05-2014, 04:22 PM
Damage bonus of the weapon & frequency it gets applied will make the difference.

1hander bonus is (level -25 /3)

For the RoM it is (level - 25 / 2) for levels 1 - 50 and (level -7 / 3) for levels 51-60

The Ebon Mace will swing 3 times for every 2 times the RoM swings.

So, for your level calculate your damage bonus with each weapon. If the Ebon Mace bonus X 3 is > than RoM bonus X 2, the Mace is better DPS (ignoring ripostes, but you'll probably be fear kiting so they're a non-issue). If it ends up being really close I'd pick the mace+shield until you hit 50 and the RoM starts to proc.

Example 1:
Level 43
Ebon Mace bonus = 43-25 / 3 = 18 / 3 = 6
RoM bonus = 43 - 25 / 2 = 18 / 2 = 9

6*3 = 18
2*9 = 18

They're basically the same. RoMs ratio is a tiny bit better and will win in DPS but the bonus you get from having a shield probably outshines the increase in DPS.

Example 2:
Level 55
Ebon mace bonus = 55 - 25 /3 = 30 / 3 = 10
RoM bonus = = 55 - 7 / 3 = 48 / 3 = 16

10*3 = 30
16*2 = 32

RoM has now pulled ahead a bit more and started to proc. The proc most likely makes up for the lack of a shield at this point.

Lune
03-05-2014, 04:35 PM
Damage bonus of the weapon & frequency it gets applied will make the difference.

1hander bonus is (level -25 /3)

For the RoM it is (level - 25 / 2) for levels 1 - 50 and (level -7 / 3) for levels 51-60

The Ebon Mace will swing 3 times for every 2 times the RoM swings.

So, for your level calculate your damage bonus with each weapon. If the Ebon Mace bonus X 3 is > than RoM bonus X 2, the Mace is better DPS (ignoring ripostes, but you'll probably be fear kiting so they're a non-issue). If it ends up being really close I'd pick the mace+shield until you hit 50 and the RoM starts to proc.

Example 1:
Level 43
Ebon Mace bonus = 43-25 / 3 = 18 / 3 = 6
RoM bonus = 43 - 25 / 2 = 18 / 2 = 9

6*3 = 18
2*9 = 18

They're basically the same. RoMs ratio is a tiny bit better and will win in DPS but the bonus you get from having a shield probably outshines the increase in DPS.

Example 2:
Level 55
Ebon mace bonus = 55 - 25 /3 = 30 / 3 = 10
RoM bonus = = 55 - 7 / 3 = 48 / 3 = 16

10*3 = 30
16*2 = 32

RoM has now pulled ahead a bit more and started to proc. The proc most likely makes up for the lack of a shield at this point.

This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you for this.