boxing, is it so bad?

[Afflictus]

Greetings,

Yes I have read that boxing is bad here and I am not even going to try it. I love grouping and activly seek them out and assemble my own groups if I have time to play.

So why is it so bad to box a druid and necro so I can solo for the two hours a day I can play? It is so much more involving trying to run two dps classes and fear kite with out killing your self. Dual boxing to me, was just all out fun. if you have to solo, might as well keep yourself company :D

With this little complaint aside, I love the community thus far and look forward to leveling my lowly druid (how ever slowly he does level). Any necros out there interested in grouping from 10am-12pm on weekdays?

-Afflictus

[Nocte]

For whatever reason, boxing is dealt with more harshly than intentionally training and griefing other players. It's on the same level of punishment as hacking the server and duping items.

[Barkingturtle]

Any necros out there interested in grouping from 10am-12pm on weekdays?


This is why there's no boxing. In an MMO, you're supposed to ask questions like this.

And seriously, you're bitching because you can't box a necro with your druid? I mean, maybe if you had whined about how slowly your warrior soloed I'd get it, but your druid?

[Spud]

Because with boxing you can get a serious leg up on everyone else who does not box, so it is similar to hacking or cheating. If boxing were allowed everyone would box to stay competitive and it would kill pick up groups.

I could use my druid to PL an alt to level 20 in a day. Why the hell would I group up with noobs then?

Why would anyone group when they could level multiple chars at once without the hassle of trying to find a group?

[Afflictus]

I am not bitching, just a mild complaint. I understand this is a "private" server and I will respect the rules of the house. I am just stating that I have very limited time to play and would like to spend it killing stuff, not lfg.

I know druids and necros solo very well, but it just seems like so much fun to play em both at the same time :D that is what I did when eq first came out and would love to recapture the fun of my first real MMO experience.

[Humerox]

You don't have to travel far on EQemu to find a server that illustrates what boxing can do to a community.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

boxing destroys the social aspect... community is what this game is all about for, me.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I mean, I started dual boxing, then 6 boxing, then 11, 12, 13.. got silly. It was nice to form my own groups, raids, but I didn't socialize. Granted it was commonplace to box, but why not play rpg, not a mmorpg then.

[Spud]

I mean, I started dual boxing, then 6 boxing, then 11, 12, 13.. got silly. It was nice to form my own groups, raids, but I didn't socialize. Granted it was commonplace to box, but why not play rpg, not a mmorpg then.

exactly!

[Straif]

Boxing is the shit imo...

http://boxingfights.net/mike-tyson.jpg

I concur with what Homerox said... Multi Boxing on EQ is the devil.

[Straif]

I mean, I started dual boxing, then 6 boxing, then 11, 12, 13.. got silly. It was nice to form my own groups, raids, but I didn't socialize. Granted it was commonplace to box, but why not play rpg, not a mmorpg then.

13? Holy shit!
Whats the most a person has boxed before? On live I knew someone who ran about 8 toons. Was are guild leader. We used to cash farm everything during Velious / Luclin, he'd ebay the money / items and level up accounts and sell them.

Was unemployed, he just played EQ. Sounded like the awesomest shit ever, but I was a freshman in high school lol

[Haynar]

The hackers and script kiddies have done entirely more damage than anyone two boxing ever could have (unless they were a pre-puberty, 13 year old griefing, script kiddie too).

When you get the boxers who do 3, 4, 6, 12, 18 toons. Then the server goes down hill very quick.

I am one of the only dev's that is for allowing up to two boxing. But, with the rules being as they are, I support the decision of lifetime bans for all those caught boxing.

I think deleting all chars, on all accounts they used, even if they were using someone else characters, and removing the ip exemption, would be even better. The boxer should be taught a lesson, along with the person dumb enough to give out their passwords. Because it is not like it was some shocker, that the person was boxing, in the first place.

Haynar

[Humerox]

Sam Deathwalker on Sullon Zek. Can't remember how many toons he ended up boxing...but it was a bunch, lol. On a PvP server, to boot.

[Humerox]

Sam Deathwalker on Sullon Zek. Can't remember how many toons he ended up boxing...but it was a bunch, lol. On a PvP server, to boot.


Found him. He 24 boxes.

OMG (http://www.fohguild.org/forums/retard-rickshaw/35323-sam-deathwalker-hits-115-000-dps.html)

[wrxBRAH]

The hackers and script kiddies have done entirely more damage than anyone two boxing ever could have (unless they were a pre-puberty, 13 year old griefing, script kiddie too).

When you get the boxers who do 3, 4, 6, 12, 18 toons. Then the server goes down hill very quick.

I am one of the only dev's that is for allowing up to two boxing. But, with the rules being as they are, I support the decision of lifetime bans for all those caught boxing.

I think deleting all chars, on all accounts they used, even if they were using someone else characters, and removing the ip exemption, would be even better. The boxer should be taught a lesson, along with the person dumb enough to give out their passwords. Because it is not like it was some shocker, that the person was boxing, in the first place.

Haynar

Agreed. I'll follow the rules that you guys set forth but being as I work a 7-7 job and when I do logon there is virtually no one around that wants to group, it certainly would be nice if I could two box.

I guess EQ wouldnt be the same game if you didnt want to wrist yourself after dying over and over because you cant seem to solo too well either eh?

I dont know about the profit and 3box etc aspect because I never partook in any of that but two boxing was definitely a ton of fun and a way to keep yourself busy back when you couldnt find a group in regular EQ.

[Straif]

Found him. He 24 boxes.

OMG (http://www.fohguild.org/forums/retard-rickshaw/35323-sam-deathwalker-hits-115-000-dps.html)

that's sad... like kill yourself sad.. holy fuck

[Agaron]

You could box, and train in classic. Strangely you can't here, even though this is classic everquest. /shrug

[eqdruid76]

You could box, and train in classic. Strangely you can't here, even though this is the Quantum Leap version of classic everquest. /shrug

Fixed.

Seriously, there is a dichotomy regarding what is considered classic and what isn't. And that definition is totally up to the devs. Boxing is prohibited, and that's that. Having said that, boxing is rampant here. They just haven't been caught yet. But they will, eventually. Then maybe I can finally leap out of here.......

[Pokemon]

Ive been boxing for a few months, since the server sucks otherwise.

They havent catched me yet and never will.

[Aprio]

Fixed.

They just haven't been caught yet. But they will, eventually. Then maybe I can finally leap out of here.......


Love the Quantum Leap reference :D

[Humerox]

Ive been boxing for a few months, since the server sucks otherwise.

They havent catched me yet and never will.

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[Humerox]

Ive been boxing for a few months, since the server sucks otherwise.

They havent catched me yet and never will.

Try this again.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/Humerox/1215099566335jpgroflposterscommyspace.jpg

[wrxBRAH]

Since Im new and this thread seems to be getting some attention. Is there any rule against powerleveling a friend/guildie?

Wanted to get the basics figured out before I start to invest heavy time into this game again.

[Shannacore]

Since Im new and this thread seems to be getting some attention. Is there any rule against powerleveling a friend/guildie?

Wanted to get the basics figured out before I start to invest heavy time into this game again.

Nope! Powerleveling is totally okay. Just don't box.

[Dantes]

You could box in classic but you had to pay for every account. If you wanted to pay $12-15 bucks a month for 24 accounts, you could 24-box. In my opinion just spend the $300+ a month to buy yourself a friend.

[wrxBRAH]

Sorry another question for the mods/devs. Will the two boxing rule ever be changed in the future? Is it still a topic you guys are discussing internally?

I promise this is my last question :P

[wrxBRAH]

You could box in classic but you had to pay for every account. If you wanted to pay $12-15 bucks a month for 24 accounts, you could 24-box. In my opinion just spend the $300+ a month to buy yourself a friend.

meh for me its not a question of buying a friend but more of a people issue when I play. Maybe it changes at higher levels. Atleast Im hoping it does.

[Jeice]

I just don't see how this is frowned at so much. It was common place in live and no one ever looked down at others for it. I always had a shaman running around behind me.

[Nedala]

Because everyone would 2 box here if it were allowed becauts its FREE. It wasnt free in livr and thats why the majority didnt 2 box. but here it would ruin everything you wouldnt find group and everything would be camped by 2 boxers. look at the other emu server where 2 boxing is allowed and see what happens. This rule is the MAIN reason imho for the succes of this server.

[nilbog]

I just don't see how this is frowned at so much. It was common place in live and no one ever looked down at others for it.

It most definitely wasn't common in classic Live. Even in Velious, the majority of people were NOT boxing.

I'm not saying that were zero boxers in classic. Some people would argue "YEAH IN 1999 I had 2 ISDN lines and 2 accounts on my 2 computers!" I'll put these people into the 1%. It became more available when EQwindows became widely popular.

It wasn't common until Luclin or later, at least on Erollisi Marr.

My 2¢ from classic playtime.

[Allizia]

Agree, I never saw anyone 2 boxing until late Velious. Hell, I could barely run one client during raids back then. Go ask for a group on PEQ or EZ if you think boxing won't affect the social aspect of the game =P

[Allizia]

Sam Deathwalker on Sullon Zek. Can't remember how many toons he ended up boxing...but it was a bunch, lol. On a PvP server, to boot.

There was a guy that used to 6 box wizards on Tallon Zek sometime around the Velious-PoP era, he got steamrolled regularly. The rare occasion that he managed to have enough control to hit you with 6 nukes at once was instant and unavoidable death though

[Yukkers]

In 1999 i dont know many people who had anything other then dial up. I dont really know of ANYONE who 2 boxed, besides maybe a couple who played together and would sometimes play both at once. I would also say, they probably used 2 computers if they did.

[wrxBRAH]

In 1999 i dont know many people who had anything other then dial up. I dont really know of ANYONE who 2 boxed, besides maybe a couple who played together and would sometimes play both at once. I would also say, they probably used 2 computers if they did.

There were quite a few at the gaming place I used to play from. It was the norm.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

13? Holy shit!
Whats the most a person has boxed before? On live I knew someone who ran about 8 toons. Was are guild leader. We used to cash farm everything during Velious / Luclin, he'd ebay the money / items and level up accounts and sell them.

Was unemployed, he just played EQ. Sounded like the awesomest shit ever, but I was a freshman in high school lol

Man, I was a fiend, I think i got to 18 before I realized I had a problem lol.. had 24 accounts, but only could get 18 in before my 3 systems revolted...6 was easy though, 12 was a bit much, once I got AL down in ssra, anything was cake for me..lol

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

in 99? I had dialup as backup, and cable, or was that 2000? blah and dual boxed when sullon zek came up. Kept one on cable, one on dialup, so I zoned difft speeds, thow off damn newt rogues:)

[Lazortag]

I am not bitching, just a mild complaint. I understand this is a "private" server and I will respect the rules of the house. I am just stating that I have very limited time to play and would like to spend it killing stuff, not lfg.

As much as I loathe two-boxing, I understand where you're coming from, because soon I'll have mornings off for about four days in a row. Unfortunately, even if I play p99 all four of those mornings, I'll likely not find any groups because there'll only be about 250-300 people on the server. I'm thinking of posting on the forums advertising that I'm lfg all those mornings, maybe it will get some people interested in playing during offpeak when they otherwise wouldn't.

[wrxBRAH]

As much as I loathe two-boxing, I understand where you're coming from, because soon I'll have mornings off for about four days in a row. Unfortunately, even if I play p99 all four of those mornings, I'll likely not find any groups because there'll only be about 250-300 people on the server. I'm thinking of posting on the forums advertising that I'm lfg all those mornings, maybe it will get some people interested in playing during offpeak when they otherwise wouldn't.

Another reason I made a druid to start out with now. Atleast I can solo kite amirite?

[dallammarr]

Back in 1999 my bro and I played. We each had our own accounts. We used dialup and dialed into our ISP through a Linux box that shared the dial up connection. On occasion we would 2 box each others chars but since you needed 2 sep computers and our comps were on different floors of the house, we did do it much, usually just for buffing and such. In 2000 we got comast cable modem. At that time routers didnt exists and it was agains comcast's agreement to share your connection. We did anyway via a linux server lol. It wasnt til maybe just before Velious we got additional accts for 2 boxing. My main reason was I needed a sacrificial lamb for Essence Emeralds for my nec. So for that reason I wish we could 2 box cause id have my sacbitch, but other than that I mostly played one acct.

[Overcast]

I boxed quite a bit in live... it got to be a dang chore for me. I'd just rather solo slowly.

But.. perhaps it's kinda like going to a swingers club and playing with yourself...

[mmiles8]

Ive been boxing for a few months, since the server sucks otherwise.

They havent catched me yet and never will.

Try this again.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/Humerox/1215099566335jpgroflposterscommyspace.jpg

Reminds me of this dipshit (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=90182&postcount=5) from this thread (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11056&highlight=boxing+banned).

Banned by page 2. Because it's not like they can figure out your play account from your forum IP or anything...

[wrxBRAH]

id be surprised if the troll wasnt using a proxy.

[braveheart]

if they allowed boxing IB and DA would both camp 2 different raid spawns at a time then

[Oryn]

I could see limiting the number to just 2 boxing, but to outlaw it just makes no sense to me. Regardless of how many people did it then, or how "classic" it is or isnt, i honestly think that allowing a box per account would bring in more players (other then the boxs)

[Reiker]

If the devs were smart they'd do like Stormhaven and allow you to box 2 chars if you donated. But they're not.

[Reiker]

And that'd even please those annoying "it has to be classic!" people since paying an extra $10 / month to play 2 chars at once is "classic."

[mimixownzall]

grouping right now seems fine, but what are new people to the server going to do when Kunark comes out? Everyone will leave their alts and hit up the new areas. I am afraid this will leave the new players with very little options.

It is hard to allow some boxing without some people going overboard and ruining it for everyone (taking up multiple named spawns ect.)

[guineapig]

grouping right now seems fine, but what are new people to the server going to do when Kunark comes out? Everyone will leave their alts and hit up the new areas. I am afraid this will leave the new players with very little options.

It is hard to allow some boxing without some people going overboard and ruining it for everyone (taking up multiple named spawns ect.)

Yes there will be a shit ton of people leveling from 50-60 but I highly doubt there will be a shortage of mid-level people all over the damn place.

Consider how many people are going to be leveling up Iksars for instance.

[Nedala]

grouping right now seems fine, but what are new people to the server going to do when Kunark comes out? Everyone will leave their alts and hit up the new areas. I am afraid this will leave the new players with very little options.

It is hard to allow some boxing without some people going overboard and ruining it for everyone (taking up multiple named spawns ect.)

Also with the release of kunark there will join many new players to the server, i doubt this will be problem. Meh im tired of all the 2 box whiners...just get it it isnt allowed it wont ever be, and its the main reason this server is so great.

[Goobles]

If boxing were legal, you could solo frenzy. Oh, wait.

[wrxBRAH]

Also with the release of kunark there will join many new players to the server, i doubt this will be problem. Meh im tired of all the 2 box whiners...just get it it isnt allowed it wont ever be, and its the main reason this server is so great.

A big % of the people starting out will be twinks getting powerleveled. Actually thats not much different that it was in classic lol.

Not whining. Just wanted to get an official word if this was a topic even up for discussion in the devs/mods forum. As someone mentioned before, Id gladly donate money if it allowed me access to two boxing since the extra box creates more stress on the server.

Until then WTB friends :P

[azeth]

denizens of norrath! do not give in to temptation and 4 box PL your new Iksar Monks!

[Loquan]

denizens of norrath! do not give in to temptation and 4 box PL your new Iksar Monks!

Pfft, humans all the way!

[Humerox]

...Id gladly donate money if it allowed me access to two boxing...

I gladly donate to the server because it doesn't. Among many other things...

:P

[oldhead]

boxing is one of the things i disliked in SoD. Even tho we could I never did on that server.

I dont mind boxing on live... the extra money was enough deterrent to keep everyone from doing it.