I'm guessing: $10,000 would def be enough to.

[runlvlzero]

Put up a real legacy, classic, itemloot server for a few years with a dedicated coder, and staff it with people who follow procedures and SoPs.

Might even be able to do it for $5,000.

That's 100, $50 donations.

Just a few thoughts.

Prob cheaper. But who's impartial enough to head up that kinda project?

Not anyone here I know of really, maybe Chewie, maybe, colgate, samwise.

I'm already making excuses as to why I wouldn't want to even deal with a project on my hands.

Would def like to see secrets get some $$ for the work they've done on the classic server client though.

[Koota]

k

[Sektor]

pity reply

[quido]

While a stock server would have smoother mechanics than broken p99, the content would be years of research and development behind what we have here.

[Andis]

runlvl stfu omg

no one cares what you say

you sound retarded when you post

you are nearing tomatoking level

I would stop soon.

[runlvlzero]

While a stock server would have smoother mechanics than broken p99, the content would be years of research and development behind what we have here.

Yeah, not to mention all the actual mechanic fixes that would need to be re-done.

Seems logistically impossible except on a small garage box scale.

[Sektor]

runlvl stfu omg

no one cares what you say

you sound retarded when you post

you are nearing tomatoking level

I would stop soon.

at least tomato makes a funny post once every 30 times.

[quido]

Yeah, not to mention all the actual mechanic fixes that would need to be re-done.

Seems logistically impossible except on a small garage box scale.

Unless you count something content-related like damage tables and such, there's probably more mechanics fixes needed now on p99 from implemented bugs than there are fixes needed on a stock eqemu box. Maybe I'm just being bitter because I think the ghosting/teleporting/disappearing is ridiculously bad and amateur, but it's not like it wasn't bug-reported over a year ago.

[runlvlzero]

Nvm... than, I was just thinking, my bro has rack space. Just a thought.

It's sad abacab put up his server and started handing out level 60's items away, cause he seems to have a nack for it.

I know a lot of us said, fuck it, make something custom to tool around with.

But I have a feeling that if someone really did stop at the planes, kept the legacy loot/quests. And classic feel it would be a popular box eventually.

[runlvlzero]

Unless you count something content-related like damage tables and such, there's probably more mechanics fixes needed now on p99 from implemented bugs than there are fixes needed on a stock eqemu box. Maybe I'm just being bitter because I think the ghosting/teleporting/disappearing is ridiculously bad and amateur, but it's not like it wasn't bug-reported over a year ago.

I see what your getting with now. P99 code fork is ludicrious, I agree they should have re-done it minus the custom shit they've implemented over the years.

[runlvlzero]

AFAIK i know though pretty classic database is leaked for the first year of the game. So if not going into kunark/velious, not that much database work.

[quido]

Probably the biggest hindrance to starting a new classic box is the lack of cheat detection. You can throw enough semi-capable people at the content and get it right, and even a mediocre developer could probably fix most of the source, but something like modifying an existing DLL to do a bunch of sketchy shit to catch cheaters is beyond the capability of nearly all geeks.

[runlvlzero]

Non-database stuff like the scripts for raster/Solro AC are the biggest issue, but those items don't need to be perfect either. Especially if Nejana is the camp spot.

Other faction issues: stuff like paineel shoudn't be in.

[runlvlzero]

Probably the biggest hindrance to starting a new classic box is the lack of cheat detection. You can throw enough semi-capable people at the content and get it right, and even a mediocre developer could probably fix most of the source, but something like modifying an existing DLL to do a bunch of sketchy shit to catch cheaters is beyond the capability of nearly all geeks.

Didn't even think of that.

Really the hardest part is having someone who knows how to the dll, and keep up with the latest macroquest builds to look for memory usage patterns.

Though a punkbuster style solution might work, could punkbuster be adapted to use with EQ? Is that code FOSS even out there?

[quido]

Yeah I dunno, I figured out how to script quests and made all the VP dragon scripts classic in less than an hour from knowing nothing. I think stuff like Raster and AC is more tedious than actually difficult, and it's really not that much work.

Research has generally always been the hold-up here it seems. If you can tell a developer exactly how something is supposed to work, anyone worth a damn can make it happen. I couldn't even imagine having to research/implement factions and stuff like that, though.

[runlvlzero]

naw punkbuster is closed source =/

[runlvlzero]

Would just have to send Nirgon a huge check in the mail :P

[SamwiseRed]

someone teach me how to put up a stock server and ill do it.

i would love to host a sz style server. i dont care if pve is years behind, fuck it. rather have classic > pop anyway with pvp changes.

[runlvlzero]

someone teach me how to put up a stock server and ill do it.

i would love to host a sz style server. i dont care if pve is years behind, fuck it. rather have classic > pop anyway with pvp changes.

I so would, but I'm actually mentally retarded when it comes to root@locahost# and mysql =/

[quido]

You'd have to make some serious changes for PvP to not be retarded too. There's some great guides on the eqemu site for setting up a box.

I use this (http://www.eqemulator.net/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=SikKun) to setup a server in linux, and this (http://www.eqemulator.net/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=WindowsServerSetupGuide) to do it in windows.

[SamwiseRed]

spell slot saves, maps, compass.

ahh yess

[hagard]

wut kind of brian dead moran wud give u $$$????

[SamwiseRed]

LoZ should just grow a brian and wipe server. make it teams. why in the hell would they just put up another ffa server.

[Vile]

need total custom pvp imo for it to some what thirve...

[runlvlzero]

LoZ should just grow a brian and wipe server. make it teams. why in the hell would they just put up another ffa server.

Whats the status on LoZ I thought doors was closing, current box up only for looksees?

[Mac Dretti]

Battleground pvp only fun for a few days

Real world with gains wins long term.

[SamwiseRed]

Battleground pvp only fun for a few days

Real world with gains wins long term.

truth

[runlvlzero]

truth

yar, pixelsquest will always be pixelquest, but making it 2 ez takes away a bit of the fun @ that

[Classic]

Server should definitely be as classic as it can be if the effort is going to be made.

[mitic]

we could ask eashan

[mitic]

well, you could ask since id rather stay here on this wonderfull red99 box

[runlvlzero]

just theorycrafting, u guyz haz nothing to worry bout

[Ames who?]

Would just have to send Nirgon a huge check in the mail :P

You are like a 21 year old schizophrenic who lives in his parents house and has no job or ambitions to even get one. You post all day long and play everquest for over 8 hours a day. You have absolutely no money so you aint sending no checks dog. I think you should theory craft the proper balance of medications that you desperately need to start taking.

[radditsu]

runlvl stfu omg

no one cares what you say

you sound retarded when you post

you are nearing tomatoking level

I would stop soon.

[Bardalicious]

"send me money for hormone therapy plx"

[HippoNipple]

Was worried there for a moment, but the thread finally delivered. Thanks guys.

[thisuserwasbannedlol]

I'm actually mentally retarded


Noted

Please stop posting, you don't have 10 thousand dollars, you don't know how to code, matter of fact you don't know shit.

[Sirken]

Put up a real legacy, classic, itemloot server for a few years with a dedicated coder, and staff it with people who follow procedures and SoPs.

Might even be able to do it for $5,000.

That's 100, $50 donations.

Just a few thoughts.

Prob cheaper. But who's impartial enough to head up that kinda project?

Not anyone here I know of really, maybe Chewie, maybe, colgate, samwise.

I'm already making excuses as to why I wouldn't want to even deal with a project on my hands.

Would def like to see secrets get some $$ for the work they've done on the classic server client though.


i will absolutely quit for 10k :D

[chu]

me2

[diplo]

runlvl stfu omg

no one cares what you say

you sound retarded when you post

you are nearing tomatoking level

I would stop soon.

i lol'ed.