Here's your chance to influence LnS

[heartbrand]

Holy fuck when did I ever train spectres on people in oasis? Are you for real?

[runlvlzero]

I think level 60 mobs should spawn when players die with level 60 wizard AoE spells.

[iiNGloriouS]

Correction: Tune killed about 4 people on a CR. Not just one. Don't spew bullshit you neckbeard.

[Tune]

Correction: Tune killed about 4 people on a CR. Not just one. Don't spew bullshit you neckbeard.

jesus christ dude it was mass pvp where 50+ people were running back to the zone , some rezzing, others were looting and staying (not scooting).

there was 20v20 fights going on in lava storm, i did the best i could to avoid any1 on lns, It was a giant shit show impossible to keep track of this stuff. Oh and the accidental kill to top it off when i ran into the tunnel with attack on to get targets for out casters.

i mean the above situation is why we are getting new rules

[Derubael]

Did Tune not one hit a player resulting in his death and was then banned for violation of PNP?

Did Spectre only kill one person that was on LNS and did not leave the area after looting his corpse only to be banned for violating the PNP?

Both of them are now being told that "you have previous violations of the rules" yet what rules were violated at the time of the infraction? Tune being banned on his cleric for logging in to do a item transfer is grounds for labeling him a cheater and a toxin to the community? Spectre being banned on MANY characters for stripping/deleting someone when it had been accepted and ignored by GMs until Ender did it himself. Bronkus was banned within 30 mins of the rules being posted and is still banned...yet no one was aware of the rules being posted (or even that the potential for the rule to be posted).

However players like Andis, Colgate(Cwall), Heartbrand that would train spectres on new players in oasis, wall hack by using LoS for bolt spells and delevel players that were afk are now looked upon as "golden examples" of model players of the community?

Check your petition logs, check your PMs. Players have been trying to reach out and reason with you about these things. But it seems that you are choosing to wear rose colored glasses.


It's like every post you make is filled with misinformation and propaganda.

Pretty sure Tune's log show him hitting that player with an AoE as well. But that player should never have been targetted and hit. We told people to be careful.

Bronkus is not banned or suspended.

Where did I say anything about previous rules violations as it applies to Tune and Spectre's bans? I've stated that previous violations should affect future sentences. I never said anything about it affecting Tune's or Spectres.

Spectre attacked/killed multiple people on LnS. Yes, I only witnessed one in person, but saw several others in YT, and received a petition from Spectre himself about him killing players on LnS.

I've never commented on any of those players whistles. I am not so foolish as to think they are all paragons of virtue and justice. There are good and bad apples in all guilds.

Yes... Tune tried to reason with me about his ban... by making 10 forum threads and 200 posts in the red forums, instead of being patient and waiting. A week hadn't even gone by and he started his trail of tears. I never once told him or Spectre their bans were permanent. Raging out publicly over a GM decision is a terrible way to get a ban lifted under any circumstances.

Forumquest is fun. Do I lose XP on death if I get pk'd?

[Tune]

that was some1 else's aoe actually, cuz i resisted it too

i dont really want to argue , lets just get these rules done

[Supreme]

Holy fuck when did I ever train spectres on people in oasis? Are you for real?

When did you ever bolt through walls in lower guk and CT? You know what i am talking about you are not *that* ignorant.

Yea i know you want to say "well soandso was doing it" but just shut the fuck up already, you cannot live by a double standard.

[Supreme]

It's like every post you make is filled with misinformation and propaganda.

Pretty sure Tune's log show him hitting that player with an AoE as well. But that player should never have been targetted and hit. We told people to be careful.

Bronkus is not banned or suspended.

Where did I say anything about previous rules violations as it applies to Tune and Spectre's bans? I've stated that previous violations should affect future sentences. I never said anything about it affecting Tune's or Spectres.

Spectre attacked/killed multiple people on LnS. Yes, I only witnessed one in person, but saw several others in YT, and received a petition from Spectre himself about him killing players on LnS.

I've never commented on any of those players whistles. I am not so foolish as to think they are all paragons of virtue and justice. There are good and bad apples in all guilds.

Yes... Tune tried to reason with me about his ban... by making 10 forum threads and 200 posts in the red forums, instead of being patient and waiting. A week hadn't even gone by and he started his trail of tears. I never once told him or Spectre their bans were permanent. Raging out publicly over a GM decision is a terrible way to get a ban lifted under any circumstances.

Forumquest is fun. Do I lose XP on death if I get pk'd?


Thank you for taking the time to respond.

I look forward to seeing the new PnP rules and hope it will make the server a more enjoyable experience for the community.

[heartbrand]

The moment the staff decided that bolts through walls were an exploit, I never did it again.

[Mac Dretti]

The moment the staff decided that bolts through walls were an exploit, I never did it again.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z192/Def_Fit/GIF/look.gif

[SamwiseRed]

http://gifstumblr.com/images/trying-not-to-laugh-in-a-moment-you-are-supposed-to-be-serious_1479.gif

[Dullah]

It's like every post you make is filled with misinformation and propaganda.
...

Spectre attacked/killed multiple people on LnS. Yes, I only witnessed one in person, but saw several others in YT, and received a petition from Spectre himself about him killing players on LnS.


Aaand you just lied.

I killed ONE player on LNS, and I petitioned you about their players baiting us and ONE player in particular I killed during pvp as well as the 20 to 30 players that had already died that did NOT LNS. You then chose to ignore the obvious evidence of what I said via petition tho 60% of their guild that died remained in the zone 30+ minutes after the conflict. All of the other 11 players I killed in Sol b were fair game targets, sorry if they were your friends.

Lets have a friendly wager. If I'm telling the truth here, you restore our characters banned with bias and personal prejudice against us, you apologize to us for letting your emotions cloud your judgement, and you step down from being a GM for obvious reasons.

You are as jaded and biased as any troll on these forums. You done drank the cool aid son.

[freez]

u sound rustled tho

[SamwiseRed]

Aaand you just lied.

I killed ONE player on LNS, and I petitioned you about their players baiting us and ONE player in particular I killed during pvp as well as the 20 to 30 players that had already died that did NOT LNS. You then chose to ignore the obvious evidence of what I said via petition tho 60% of their guild that died remained in the zone 30+ minutes after the conflict. All of the other 11 players I killed in Sol b were fair game targets, sorry if they were your friends.

Lets have a friendly wager. If I'm telling the truth here, you restore our characters banned with bias and personal prejudice against us, you apologize to us for letting your emotions cloud your judgement, and you step down from being a GM for obvious reasons.

You are as jaded and biased as any troll on these forums. You done drank the cool aid son.

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/jim-carrey-oh-come-on.gif

[freez]

gonna get




fuckin





banned

[HeisChuck]

thought players weren't supposed to attack gm's ???

[Derubael]

Lets have a friendly wager. If I'm telling the truth here, you restore our characters banned with bias and personal prejudice against us, you apologize to us for letting your emotions cloud your judgement, and you step down from being a GM for obvious reasons.


So if I'm telling the truth and you violated the rules, what do I get out of it?

[Something'Witty]

Lets have a friendly wager. If I'm telling the truth here, you restore our characters banned with bias and personal prejudice against us, you apologize to us for letting your emotions cloud your judgement, and you step down from being a GM for obvious reasons.

Each wager needs two bets. What are you going to put on the line if you are wrong?

[Something'Witty]

Heh, great minds think alike!

[runlvlzero]

banned

[heartbrand]

I have an outstanding $600,000 bet with Destin, so I highly doubt he's going to put up on this one.

[SamwiseRed]

smells like a ban sandwich

[Pudge]

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z192/Def_Fit/GIF/look.gif

lol



also, i think it's kinda lul you guys would probably have been unbanned already if you didnt forumquest so hard

[thisuserwasbannedlol]

that's your dads 600 thousand HB don't act like its yours

also for the rest of you , especially tune, the world is your oyster

level again !

PS Bard kiting nerfed sorry if you did that.

[Kontra]

So if I'm telling the truth and you violated the rules, what do I get out of it?

I killed ONE player on LNS, and I petitioned you about their players baiting us and ONE player in particular I killed during pvp as well as the 20 to 30 players that had already died that did NOT LNS. You then chose to ignore the obvious evidence of what I said via petition tho 60% of their guild that died remained in the zone 30+ minutes after the conflict. All of the other 11 players I killed in Sol b were fair game targets, sorry if they were your friends.

I was there and he is 100% correct on this. The fact is that nearly 20 Red Dawn violated PNP by being ressed in during the battle.

This violation came on the direct orders of Heartbrand.

[Bazia]

Can anyone discussing tune's suspension just be forum banned, it's literally every thread now just various Nihilum spamming about Tune's suspension.

[Tune]

i dont think its that bad

when i was going ham on it, it was much worse

[Beibei]

It's good. VZTZ had same policy, once a guild lost and declared LNS, they could get corpses.

Until they declared LNS, we fucking killed them all.

Will their be a prisoner exchange prior to implementing these new rules?

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

ender has literally nothing to lose from this bet

he's already gotten banned on 15 characters

guy's a mad, retarded faggot and should prob kill himself irl to save himself from the embarrassment that he is every time he speaks

[dre]

If it's too hard for you to read and follow 3 simple paragraphs, you can go play Hooked on Phonics, the video game. This isn't and never will be SZ. If you want to play SZ, go make your own box.

fired

[Yagebasto]

ender has literally nothing to lose from this bet

he's already gotten banned on 15 characters

guy's a mad, retarded faggot and should prob kill himself irl to save himself from the embarrassment that he is every time he speaks

Damn, this shit really allowed in server chat? dat mad RL attack

[Jenni D]

How many bans can one obtain (for hacking, violating server pnp, account stripping and direct racist abuse) before being rejected by the community, guild leaders and staff?

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

Damn, this shit really allowed in server chat? dat mad RL attack

i ain't the one that has 42 characters permabanned for being a scumbag

no mad here 8)

[Tune]

stay on topic, if u have nothing good to add stfu

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

pretty sure you and ender being permabanned for exploiting LNS has at least something to do with the discussion on LNS being changed

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

p.s. SCUM

[Tune]

pretty sure you and ender being permabanned for exploiting LNS has at least something to do with the discussion on LNS being changed

that didnt happen

it was a horrible dream

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

that didnt happen

it was a horrible dream

you're insane

i'm not kidding

see a psychiatrist

[HeisChuck]

seek help tune you SICK FUCK

[Tune]

<3 u too baby

[Zereh]

Spectre attacked/killed multiple people on LnS. Yes, I only witnessed one in person, but saw several others in YT, and received a petition from Spectre himself about him killing players on LnS.

I've never commented on any of those players whistles. I am not so foolish as to think they are all paragons of virtue and justice. There are good and bad apples in all guilds.

Yes... Tune tried to reason with me about his ban... by making 10 forum threads and 200 posts in the red forums, instead of being patient and waiting. A week hadn't even gone by and he started his trail of tears. I never once told him or Spectre their bans were permanent. Raging out publicly over a GM decision is a terrible way to get a ban lifted under any circumstances.

Forumquest is fun. Do I lose XP on death if I get pk'd?

Just curious how you could not "see" the 30ish RD violating LnS but could hone right in on two Nihilum?

Guides with obvious axes to grind are bad news.

Next please.

[iiNGloriouS]

RD wasn't killing LnSing players, they knew we were in SolB and not in Lavastorm, yet I believe Julian died 4 times to Tune, and Spectre was even whispering one of RDs members saying he didnt give a damn that he was killing LnSers, EVEN PETITIONED IT.

Besides the rules were 2 days old max when all this went down. Besides Zereh, I don't think you have any room to talk, you weren't there and are only being fed the bullshit Nihilum feeds you rather than being there when it happened.

[Mac Dretti]

http://commonsenseatheism.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/experimenter-bias.jpg

[chu]

whole lotta favoritism goin on lately
even tho im not being hated or favored it still is disgusting and i will continue to not log in

[heartbrand]

Just curious how you could not "see" the 30ish RD violating LnS but could hone right in on two Nihilum?

Guides with obvious axes to grind are bad news.

Next please.

Hey you still cheating with banned UI's? Please keep your dirty whistle out of this thread. Didn't you say you were quitting since retti was allowed back in? Do us all a favor and honor your word.

[Mac Dretti]

Naw we high - fived several times

Y u mad tho

[Smedy]

i smell Labia minora

/thread

[runlvlzero]

The best part is (the really mad people in this thread) actually have to click on it and respond to get mad.

And Tune doesn't appear to be one of them.

This is a fantastic day in Norrath mates!

/pras Tune for rustling people (including GMs) from the grave. Regardless of your intentions )

[Kergan]

So you make some rules up arbitrarily without input from the vast majority of the player base, ban a handful of people over such rules, admit the rules weren't well thought out and need to be changed and still refuse to unban the players?

Would it not be a fair solution to redo the rules based on player feedback, unban those who received punishment during the previous failed ruleset and move on? Anyone who thinks that is not a rational solution is just trying to further their agenda.

[chu]

Would it not be a fair solution to redo the rules based on player feedback, unban those who received punishment during the previous failed ruleset and move on? Anyone who thinks that is not a rational solution is just trying to further their agenda.

this 10000x

[Nothxu]

Why Nihilum is raising hell over this when they clearly have the numbers, tactics, organization, and leadership to continue dominating in this kind of environment boggles my mind.

We are raising hell over this because Tune (an officer) / Spectre (a senior member and excellent pvper) were banned over rules that were clearly implemented without server feedback and without clear guidance.

We have people in our guild that do not even want to pvp because it is not worth getting banned for something, especially because it seems GMs are banning first, and then asking questions later. Why does that "boggle" your mind?

[HippoNipple]

So you make some rules up arbitrarily without input from the vast majority of the player base, ban a handful of people over such rules, admit the rules weren't well thought out and need to be changed and still refuse to unban the players?

Would it not be a fair solution to redo the rules based on player feedback, unban those who received punishment during the previous failed ruleset and move on? Anyone who thinks that is not a rational solution is just trying to further their agenda.

No need to muddy the waters. If you are saying players of this fine box wanting to clean up the server is an agenda then so be it. You need to follow the rules in place period. Yes, there is always room for improvement and server feedback but trying to change the rules and then going back in time to say previous infractions don't count doesn't make sense.

Couple that with the disrespect some players have shown to the GMs/Devs, whose names shall remain nameless, and you have a clear reason to uphold the judgement that has been laid upon them.

[HippoNipple]

We are raising hell over this because Tune (an officer) / Spectre (a senior member and excellent pvper) were banned over rules that were clearly implemented without server feedback and without clear guidance.

We have people in our guild that do not even want to pvp because it is not worth getting banned for something, especially because it seems GMs are banning first, and then asking questions later. Why does that "boggle" your mind?

If you have questions about whether or not you can kill a naked players in game that have called LnS message me. I will help you out.

[Kergan]

It's like every post you make is filled with misinformation and propaganda.

Pretty sure Tune's log show him hitting that player with an AoE as well. But that player should never have been targetted and hit. We told people to be careful.

Bronkus is not banned or suspended.

Where did I say anything about previous rules violations as it applies to Tune and Spectre's bans? I've stated that previous violations should affect future sentences. I never said anything about it affecting Tune's or Spectres.

Spectre attacked/killed multiple people on LnS. Yes, I only witnessed one in person, but saw several others in YT, and received a petition from Spectre himself about him killing players on LnS.

I've never commented on any of those players whistles. I am not so foolish as to think they are all paragons of virtue and justice. There are good and bad apples in all guilds.

Yes... Tune tried to reason with me about his ban... by making 10 forum threads and 200 posts in the red forums, instead of being patient and waiting. A week hadn't even gone by and he started his trail of tears. I never once told him or Spectre their bans were permanent. Raging out publicly over a GM decision is a terrible way to get a ban lifted under any circumstances.

Forumquest is fun. Do I lose XP on death if I get pk'd?

Just one question I have from this post...

If Tune's AOE had killed him instead of a tab target single swing in melee would he still be in violation?

[Nothxu]

Would it not be a fair solution to redo the rules based on player feedback, unban those who received punishment during the previous failed ruleset and move on?

This. You can fix this by unbanning / removing suspensions for all PnP related issues, and implementing new rules that we are discussing in this thread.

[canardvc]

A step in the right direction, but this still seems confusing.

Can we just get a thing called "logical LNS"? This is where anything that EQ PVP encompasses, including bind rushing, rezzing, corpse camping to an extent, is allowed. Once one side calls LNS, the winning guild allows the losing guild to LNS and move along, and they agree to not contest that zone/mob for an hour.

This allows everyone to enjoy EQ PVP to the fullest, and also prevents anyone from getting corpse camped and having their evening ruined by being camped, etc. This also prevents bannings that harm the server population due to confusing rules. Bans should be saved for MQ and other stupid things, such as RL threats, GM attacks, etc.

Logical LNS 2014.

GongShow : Most Quoted 2014

[Kergan]

No need to muddy the waters. If you are saying players of this fine box wanting to clean up the server is an agenda then so be it. You need to follow the rules in place period. Yes, there is always room for improvement and server feedback but trying to change the rules and then going back in time to say previous infractions don't count doesn't make sense.

Couple that with the disrespect some players have shown to the GMs/Devs, whose names shall remain nameless, and you have a clear reason to uphold the judgement that has been laid upon them.

You need to stop with the "just follow the rules" argument. Even the person who implemented them has stated they didn't work.

In your mind to "clean up the box" that means getting rid of people you don't like by whatever means necessary, in just fashion or not. That is the very specific issue I have with your methodology. Tune is a pain in your ass, not because he cheats, not because he is exploiting or hacking, but simply because he spends a lot of time online and actively hunts down people in your guild. He makes life difficult for newer players and fresh level 52+ characters. Hiding behind some vague PNP rule that has already been confirmed not working by the staff is just a way for you to veil your ultimate goal, getting rid of the competition. It's pathetic, transparent and obvious to anyone with half a brain.

The amusing thing is many members of RD/Azrael do the exact same thing, just less effectively. I've watched it with my own two eyes as my brother levels up his monk.

[chu]

if you let naked players run back into mass pvp without corpse camping them that was a very dumb move, regardless of what the rules say. red dawn proved time and time again that regardless of what was shouted/said/petitioned that they were going to bindrush. kill them naked until leadership throws in the towel. that is the only smart play

[karsten]

Forumquest is fun. Do I lose XP on death if I get pk'd?

players can be (and often are) petty, CSR members shouldn't be.

[chu]

they're volunteers, remember to hold them to zero standards plz

[HippoNipple]

You need to stop with the "just follow the rules" argument. Even the person who implemented them has stated they didn't work.

In your mind to "clean up the box" that means getting rid of people you don't like by whatever means necessary, in just fashion or not. That is the very specific issue I have with your methodology. Tune is a pain in your ass, not because he cheats, not because he is exploiting or hacking, but simply because he spends a lot of time online and actively hunts down people in your guild. He makes life difficult for newer players and fresh level 52+ characters. Hiding behind some vague PNP rule that has already been confirmed not working by the staff is just a way for you to veil your ultimate goal, getting rid of the competition. It's pathetic, transparent and obvious to anyone with half a brain.

The amusing thing is many members of RD/Azrael do the exact same thing, just less effectively. I've watched it with my own two eyes as my brother levels up his monk.

Tune has never killed me. I'm not hiding behind anything. I have watched you try to reduce Tune's crimes to accidentally auto attacking one individual which makes your case look worse than it already is. Tune did it to several players the same night right in front of GMs after it was clear these rules were instated and would be enforced. It was a clear power struggle between Tune and the GMs and he lost. There have also been other suspensions throughout his time on the box, which you always leave out of the argument even though it is more relevant than 99% of what you post.

After all that Tune takes this opportunity away from the game to come on the forums and declare war on the GMs through forumquesting.

[Nirgon]

I've stated that previous violations should affect future sentences.

On live you were banned after 2 suspensions.

Looks like Derubael read the classic handbook instead of making marshmallow peanut butter treats all day.

[HippoNipple]

if you let naked players run back into mass pvp without corpse camping them that was a very dumb move, regardless of what the rules say. red dawn proved time and time again that regardless of what was shouted/said/petitioned that they were going to bindrush. kill them naked until leadership throws in the towel. that is the only smart play

BTW this player says this but he hasn't done it once since PnP went in. Not only talking about mass pvp but he hasn't corpse camped anyone that was following PnP procedure.

Looks like it is all talk.

[chu]

BTW this player says this but he hasn't done it once since PnP went in. Not only talking about mass pvp but he hasn't corpse camped anyone that was following PnP procedure.

Looks like it is all talk.

goddamn right, anytime i killed a player i logged off upon his refusal to scoot
maybe thats why im not banned

doesn't make it any less retarded tho

[chu]

also why i say stuff like "you only lose if you win"
meaning crybaby red dawn would gain "zone control" by looting and staying
dum

[Kergan]

Tune has never killed me. I'm not hiding behind anything. I have watched you try to reduce Tune's crimes to accidentally auto attacking one individual which makes your case look worse than it already is. Tune did it to several players the same night right in front of GMs after it was clear these rules were instated and would be enforced. It was a clear power struggle between Tune and the GMs and he lost. There have also been other suspensions throughout his time on the box, which you always leave out of the argument even though it is more relevant than 99% of what you post.

After all that Tune takes this opportunity away from the game to come on the forums and declare war on the GMs through forumquesting.

You are aware what you described never actually happened right? It was a single player that night, Exed. And you are also aware Derubal stated that previous suspensions were not necessarily part of the equation? And I'm sure you're aware that all of this happened before Tune's forumquesting so that has zero relevance to the ban.

This is what we know: Tune was banned for breaking a LNS rule that was later declared BY THE AUTHOR to be non practical and non functional. Like I said, only someone with a blatant agenda to get Tune banned from the box by whatever means necessary would argue the fact that he should have the ban lifted for that specific crime. He has served his time for a minor violation of an unclear rule that has since been declared as poorly written. Not to mention that the punishment never fit the crime in the first place even if those rules were to stay in place. Hopefully that is something we can address in the new PNP rules.

[Kergan]

On live you were banned after 2 suspensions.

Looks like Derubael read the classic handbook instead of making marshmallow peanut butter treats all day.

Yep, but he also said this:


Where did I say anything about previous rules violations as it applies to Tune and Spectre's bans? I've stated that previous violations should affect future sentences. I never said anything about it affecting Tune's or Spectres.

[chu]

dont try to reason with him
hippo has proven to either be a) retarded or b) on a propaganda quest
either way theres no point to argue just smile, nod, and scroll past

[Labanen]

Hey you still cheating with banned UI's? Please keep your dirty whistle out of this thread. Didn't you say you were quitting since retti was allowed back in? Do us all a favor and honor your word.can we hold you up on one of your quiting posts too then ? Calling Zarah dirty whistle, did you finally loose the last braincell ?

[heartbrand]

Yes, I loose the last braincell

[heartbrand]

We are raising hell over this because Tune (an officer) / Spectre (a senior member and excellent pvper) were banned over rules that were clearly implemented without server feedback and without clear guidance.

We have people in our guild that do not even want to pvp because it is not worth getting banned for something, especially because it seems GMs are banning first, and then asking questions later. Why does that "boggle" your mind?

Hey moran, there's a reason Ender has been banned 5 times now, and it's not just because of the PNP, holy fuck.

[karsten]

lol you just made fun of a danish guy for his english ability, goog 1

[Kinamara]

Yes, I loose the last braincell

don't fuck with the mafia

[Labanen]

HB is proud of himself, give him a break Karsten ;)

[bigshowtime]

lol you just made fun of a danish guy for his english ability, goog 1

lol this ^

[heartbrand]

don't fuck with the mafia

or wut?

[Nirgon]

Yep, but he also said this:

Tune's a loyal soldier that has laid down his accounts to pave the way for the duke. It sucks to see a player banned, but a message needs to be sent if the pop will rise.

[Tradesonred]

How does that PnP Kool aid taste all you Born-again bluebies

[tehruoh]

With these clarifications can tune be unbanned so we can end the forums suffering :)

[Supreme]

Heartbrand does have a dirty whistle, he knows it.

Glad he has decided to turn over a new leaf and lead a guild. However he is his own worst enemy and is too nice and helpful to be completely successful.

Give him time..this too shall pass...once he melts down again.

[heartbrand]

Faydedar down to Red Dawn yet again. Dojorn? Sleepin with the fishies. Meanwhile Supreme doing the only thing he ever has on Red99, ForumQuesting.

[Labanen]

congrats

[Bazia]

Ban anyone making "unban Tune" post #1427

[runlvlzero]

Ban anyone making "unban Tune" post #1427

Still mad on page 18... (in multiple threads) it's like your reduced to lobbying against tune, how much DKP you get per post?

Please free tune so this psycho can lose it and get some help.

Bazia, U made Union, and GOT MAD AS FUK cause it didn't generate pixels for u

U are so fucking mad, you come on and get mad on forums and in game and I never see u do anything xcept lobby for your pal heartbrand.

Stay mad.

[Kinamara]

Based on the forums, Tune should be unbanned by now...

[HeisChuck]

tune toxic as fuck me and my 6 friends will quit if that scumlords accounts are returned

[Nothxu]

Hey moran, there's a reason Ender has been banned 5 times now, and it's not just because of the PNP, holy fuck.

Come on HB. In this instance, he was banned for PNP. You know it's ridiculous and you would be flipping your shit if it happened to Red Dawn.

[Thrilla]

Only thing the player base should ask for is constancy with the rules and the punishment handed out for breaking them. I have trouble understanding how I've heard people get suspended for 2 weeks or even a month for boxing when there are sticky threads saying it is punishable by BAN. Yet, there are players seemingly still perma banned for rules that were recently made up out of thin air after 2 years of not having such rules for doing what is essentially the whole point of the server [PvP].

I have a hard time buying there isn't some bias here and personal vendetta's against certain people. It kind of hurts the credibility of the server, guild tags and affiliations aside. Its wrong.

Do the right thing if the GM's didn't fully understand the rules how are the players expected to do so-- unban the people that were specifically banned for their actions against these rules or just come out and say that they were banned for some other reason.

[heartbrand]

Ender biggest scumbag to ever play on this server, thank god he's banned again for the FIFTH time.

[runlvlzero]

Come on HB. In this instance, he was banned for PNP. You know it's ridiculous and you would be flipping your shit if it happened to Red Dawn.

He would lose his mind and probably threaten the GM's IRL if he had stayed banned for more than 15 minutes. Speculation mind you. But a realistic expectation.

TBH Never saw the GM's move that fast ever, for the server being down or anything. 1-800-FRME!

[big mouth chew]

donutter status

[Mac Dretti]

Didnt smedy get 3 days and a race change when caught 2 boxing?

[runlvlzero]

Well guys, wish me luck becoming rich, famous and getting my sex change, so I can put up a legit box, run by professionals, for the world to see what a real EQ pvp server should be like:

Item Loot
Classic Levels 1-50
+/-4 levels range
Classic EXP
Classic Resists

It cannot be beat. Sure this server has 200 players almost now. But that's 150 bad players. With poor sportsmanship and bad referee's.

The simple version: If your going to play ball, better to play on a field with your pals/friends, good players for fun. Than just for the $$ in a corrupt league were your team get's payed off to throw the game. Is R99 better than blue? Sure, by a margin, but might as well play on blue in the long run. Shit seems boring pixel quest, and leads to burnout for anyone good at the game.

This shit is so half assed and no were near professional, or friendly anymore. It's some kind of mutant WoW-beast of EQ pvp.

PvP server should have stayed at legacy classic for over a year until they fixed the game, with RZ rules.

But these GM's just want to see population. What they don't understand and will probably refute ignorantly is that pop here, is pop they would just accrue on blue. There's probably 10 players here that wouldn't reroll blue if this box shut down. Probably 40 on the fence, that might play on a real pvp server if the option was provided and this box didn't have population.

Tons of fence sitters. Sux. Can't do anything bout it at the moment though.

[Bokke]

So if I am understanding all the posts correctly, small scale PvP only has one rule in play:

1. If LNS is called it must be granted and the winning team can decide which zone to lock out. If LNS is not called no rules apply.

So the stuff about leaving the zone after a death occurs causing an automatic LNS was misplaced and meant for large scale pvp?

[Supreme]

Faydedar down to Red Dawn yet again. Dojorn? Sleepin with the fishies. Meanwhile Supreme doing the only thing he ever has on Red99, ForumQuesting.

You are bragging about killing content on a 16 year old elf simulator at 6am on a weekday?

Yeah i think i will stick to forumquesting during lunch and keep my real life intact.

[Sektor]

You are bragging about killing content on a 16 year old elf simulator at 6am on a weekday?

Yeah i think i will stick to forumquesting during lunch and keep my real life intact.

killed day while 35 nilly online. Nice try.

[heartbrand]

You are bragging about killing content on a 16 year old elf simulator at 6am on a weekday?

Yeah i think i will stick to forumquesting during lunch and keep my real life intact.

You mean the same time that 40 Nihilum were online? LOL

[Nirgon]

Derubael anthem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxhxKdnjGA8)

Lol'd hard at turned that bitch to salt.

[Derubael]

I realize that being 'banned' instead of 'suspended' implies permanency, but that's not always the case. We will often use ban in situations where we want to send a clear message, or when we want people to come and contact us about their accounts before the ban is lifted. Being told "You have been banned" is a lot more jarring than "You have been suspended" when you try to log in.

Tune was not even banned for a week before he started his epic trail of tears. He violated a rule, got punished for it, and started to QQ up the entire red server forum section over this grave, tragic, indisputable injustice, calling out the entire staff in the process.

He'd probably already be unbanned if he hadn't lost his shit 5 days into his punishment. I'm done defending my actions. He broke a clear rule. And even if by some grey-area rule-lawyer lobby-questing retroactive rule application miracle defense it turned out Tune was somehow innocent of that, he still went full retard up and down these forums, and is going to have to live with that for now.

Break rules = get punished
Create a public shitstorm over punishment = get punished more

If you think a call I've made is unfair, korrupt, wrong, or biased, PM me or use the petition forum.
If you think that I am unfair, korrupt, wrong, or biased, PM Sirken.
If you think that Sirken is unfair, korrupt, wrong, or biased, PM Rogean or Nilbog
If you think Rogean or Nilbog are unfair, korrupt, wrong, or biased, get the fuck off the box because apparently the entire staff is out to get you.

^your p99 appeals process, ladies and gentlemen.

[Gaffin 3.0]

none of you guys answer pms

[Rellapse36]

Told him to stop the threads all it was doing is making it harder on himself but of course he does not listen to anyone. Stay banned you cry baby.

quote from last week hehehehe


You are in no way in the world helping yourself get unbanned by creating all these threads.

If you had not acted like a 14yr old entitled cry baby your shit probably would have been unbanned by now. Please keep on making yourself look bad and show the Gm's they made the right choice by banning you.

[runlvlzero]

Told him to stop the threads all it was doing is making it harder on himself but of course he does not listen to anyone. Stay banned you cry baby.

quote from last week hehehehe

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's really hard to tell. What is going to work and what is not. How'd you feel if your hard investment into a server you did enjoy was locked up and you just saw everything spiraling out of control and your enemies were taunting you, AND doing the same and not receiving equal punishment.

You'd probably make a few threads bout it.

Let me further speculate, what would happen if Tune got unbanned within a week? You think 50 players wouldn't come on here threatening to quit? For that your guys should def get re-banned if you want to make the standard how much QQ is happening on your behalf.

<Red Dawn> doesn't even need to get banned to QQ and make threads. They just do it by default.

At least Tune was on good behavior until after the fact.

[lite]

I realize that being 'banned' instead of 'suspended' implies permanency, but that's not always the case. We will often use ban in situations where we want to send a clear message, or when we want people to come and contact us about their accounts before the ban is lifted. Being told "You have been banned" is a lot more jarring than "You have been suspended" when you try to log in.

Tune was not even banned for a week before he started his epic trail of tears. He violated a rule, got punished for it, and started to QQ up the entire red server forum section over this grave, tragic, indisputable injustice, calling out the entire staff in the process.

He'd probably already be unbanned if he hadn't lost his shit 5 days into his punishment. I'm done defending my actions. He broke a clear rule. And even if by some grey-area rule-lawyer lobby-questing retroactive rule application miracle defense it turned out Tune was somehow innocent of that, he still went full retard up and down these forums, and is going to have to live with that for now.

Break rules = get punished
Create a public shitstorm over punishment = get punished more

If you think a call I've made is unfair, korrupt, wrong, or biased, PM me or use the petition forum.
If you think that I am unfair, korrupt, wrong, or biased, PM Sirken.
If you think that Sirken is unfair, korrupt, wrong, or biased, PM Rogean or Nilbog
If you think Rogean or Nilbog are unfair, korrupt, wrong, or biased, get the fuck off the box because apparently the entire staff is out to get you.

^your p99 appeals process, ladies and gentlemen.


Tune should know better than anyone that getting a toon banned doesn't necessarily mean it will be lost forever. He's had toons banned in the past that he currently has access to.

[hagard]

Tune was not even banned for a week before he started his epic trail of tears. He violated a rule, got punished for it, and started to QQ up the entire red server forum section over this grave, tragic, indisputable injustice, calling out the entire staff in the process.

He'd probably already be unbanned if he hadn't lost his shit 5 days into his punishment. I'm done defending my actions. He broke a clear rule. And even if by some grey-area rule-lawyer lobby-questing retroactive rule application miracle defense it turned out Tune was somehow innocent of that, he still went full retard up and down these forums, and is going to have to live with that for now.


HEHHHHHHHH

[HeisChuck]

You are bragging about killing content on a 16 year old elf simulator at 6am on a weekday?

Yeah i think i will stick to forumquesting during lunch and keep my real life intact.

lol this is the ultimate "face palm post" of the year so far

[Eslade]

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg121/ShadowWario/DERAILED.png

This sounds like a well thought out plan. Thanks for putting in the time Derub.

[Nothxu]

Create a public shitstorm over punishment = get punished more

Andis created a public shitstorm on this very forum and was shortly after unbanned. Do you see how there are some issues with consistency here?

If you are of the mind that he would already be unbanned by now if he handled things better, why not just unban him and move on? He has already been suspended for longer than he should have been, and you have made it clear how to handle situations like these in the future. Let's get Tune off the forums and into the game.

[Tassador]

Is vana white still doable? Haven't see that show in a minute.

[Sektor]

If Tune stops posting I'm sure he'll get his bard by velious lawl.


Also Nothxu the Andis banning was explained. Stop reaching your guild mate was wrong and they also explained why he was banned and why he contuines to be banned.

[SamwiseRed]

Tune griefed my entire family off the server including my 4 year old son. scum

:)

[quido]

I have a screenshot of a mistell from Tune somewhere talking about masturbating after a PvP kill.

[Mac Dretti]

I was once blamed for Rnf threads that I didn't even post in and had a (falsely accused) suspension extended because of it. Just saying.

[Nothxu]

My point is that Andis went to these forums, made his issue public, and then was subsequently unbanned. Tune went to these forums thinking it was his last option probably, and was punished further. Inconsistencies like these are why I have such a problem with how this is being handled.

[quido]

How many times has Andis been banned/suspended? How many has Tune?

[Sektor]

My point is that Andis went to these forums, made his issue public, and then was subsequently unbanned. Tune went to these forums thinking it was his last option probably, and was punished further. Inconsistencies like these are why I have such a problem with how this is being handled.

Your point is shit. Andis banning was a wrong call admitted by the GMs. Tunes banned was not the wrong call.

[Eslade]

if you guys want to argue about why tune was banned, why not make another of the 100 threads that are already on the boar, instead of crapping all over this thread.

About that lns policy eh?

[Sektor]

if you guys want to argue about why tune was banned, why not make another of the 100 threads that are already on the boar, instead of crapping all over this thread.

About that lns policy eh?

the more they cry the less of a chance you'll ever see Tune back. Keep it up guys!

[HeisChuck]

just the fact that if tune stops bitching he will get his account back makes me wanna VOMIT

[Derubael]

# of Andis threads contesting/complaining about his punishment: 1

# of Tune threads contesting/complaining about his punishment: 7

Andis was wrongly punished to begin with, and when we told him to shut it and wait for us to respond, he did. Apples to oranges.

I've told you guys I don't normally enforce any of these forum rules, because I'm against stifling free speech, but if it gets excessive I will absolutely exercise my right to do so.

I have nothing against Tune or Nihilum. Between Tune and Nizzar, multiple game breaking exploits have been reported in the private petition forum and fixed as a result. I've never had a bad interaction with Tune (and I've interacted with him both before and after joining staff), and I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he made a bad call, and then made another series of bad calls after that, which led to this. Hopefully in the future everyone can refrain from prematurely forumjaculating all over the staff when they get caught breaking a rule.

[Rellapse36]

naw naw Tune carry on with 100 more threads plz

[Stasis01]

# of Andis threads contesting/complaining about his punishment: 1

# of Tune threads contesting/complaining about his punishment: 7

Andis was wrongly punished to begin with, and when we told him to shut it and wait for us to respond, he did. Apples to oranges.

I've told you guys I don't normally enforce any of these forum rules, because I'm against stifling free speech, but if it gets excessive I will absolutely exercise my right to do so.

I have nothing against Tune or Nihilum. Between Tune and Nizzar, multiple game breaking exploits have been reported in the private petition forum and fixed as a result. I've never had a bad interaction with Tune (and I've interacted with him both before and after joining staff), and I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he made a bad call, and then made another series of bad calls after that, which led to this. Hopefully in the future everyone can refrain from prematurely forumjaculating all over the staff when they get caught breaking a rule.

Tune clearly didn't watch the Holo video, a lot of good advice in there.

[Mac Dretti]

U can't blame a person for freaking out when u perma ban their main character and resolve petitions with try later trolllol - if we feel like it!! 8)

Both sides could have used better petitioning etiquette.

[aborted]

I can understand their being rules for LnS, but perma banning for it, is just abuse of power. If you really must ban, ban for a day. Banning people for pvping/griefing is not classic, nor is it going to help your server. I remember controlling zones with my guild and not letting people get their corpses, and never had any sort of GM banning people for it...

[chu]

Didnt smedy get 3 days and a race change when caught 2 boxing?

[runlvlzero]

forumjaculating
forumjaculating
forumjaculating
forumjaculating
forumjaculating
forumjaculating
forumjaculating

[Sektor]

I can understand their being rules for LnS, but perma banning for it, is just abuse of power. If you really must ban, ban for a day. Banning people for pvping/griefing is not classic, nor is it going to help your server. I remember controlling zones with my guild and not letting people get their corpses, and never had any sort of GM banning people for it...

l2read GMs said tune isn't perma banned

[aborted]

l2read GMs said tune isn't perma banned

Too many post/threads, point is that gm's shouldn't ban for more than 48 hours if its not exploiting the game mechanics or RMTing. The less GM intervention the better, in my opinion.

[Nothxu]

GMs also said on their stream that if they ban someone, they are "fucking banned." Or something to that effect. Tune could have very well thought he was permanently banned, which prompted the Tune forum meltdown. Why are you punishing Tune in game for actions on the forum? People go completely ape shit on the forums and it does not affect them in game, including racial slurs, rl attacks, etc. The scum on the server frequent this forum more than they do in game. Tune is being banned for tab targeting a newly ressurected player mid battle, and then you have pieces of shit like Slathar and Mornin who would offer to bind newbies in unrest only to port them far away. We all know who the scum on the server are, and Tune is not one of them.

Furthermore, the whole "try again later" when it comes to petitioning is fucking retarded and only promotes constant badgering / bumping of threads to get the GMs to review the situation again.

[hagard]

maybe now would be a good time to stop the QQ over a ban that is obv not even permanent

[Nothxu]

I have nothing against Tune or Nihilum. Between Tune and Nizzar, multiple game breaking exploits have been reported in the private petition forum and fixed as a result. I've never had a bad interaction with Tune (and I've interacted with him both before and after joining staff), and I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he made a bad call, and then made another series of bad calls after that, which led to this. Hopefully in the future everyone can refrain from prematurely forumjaculating all over the staff when they get caught breaking a rule.

Based on this, it sounds like you know he is not a toxic player. He loves the game and has already been suspended for multiple weeks now (which I am sure feels even longer to him). Don't you think he has done enough time? Are multiple forum posts a reason to keep someone banned?

Come on man.

[SamwiseRed]

I can understand their being rules for LnS, but perma banning for it, is just abuse of power. If you really must ban, ban for a day. Banning people for pvping/griefing is not classic, nor is it going to help your server. I remember controlling zones with my guild and not letting people get their corpses, and never had any sort of GM banning people for it...

odd how noone in nilly thought perma banning holo was a problem. intredasting.

[Rallyd]

odd how noone in nilly thought perma banning holo was a problem. intredasting.

That's a lie, everyone in Nihilum thought perma banning holo was atrocious, and we made that clear.

[Vile]

the




tears





are





delicious

[quido]

Rallyd, do you think people who intentionally crash zones should be permabanned?

[Yagebasto]

odd how noone in nilly thought perma banning holo was a problem. intredasting.

u dum and obv were never around at this point in time.

After Big Rogeans naggy crusade I remember hearing a majority of people in TS saying "... well thats fucking retarded". Yeah we were enemy guilds, but I'm pretty sure we can all agree that no one wants to see someone banned for ridiculous shit. Not only that, but having your only competition on the server banned. Shit wasn't tite.

[Yagebasto]

Rallyd, do you think people who intentionally crash zones should be permabanned?

Jeremy, didn't you start the highsun exploit? I mean you practically created it yet never petitioned/reported it?

ps gimme glitteratis n00ds :3

[quido]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I knew mobs sometimes acted screwy after gating, but I never connected this to doing it maliciously with highsun until it was public knowledge here.

i r send teh n00dz

[chu]

theres a reason tune made qq threads
he made them because andis made qq threads and the gm's responded by undoing their punishment

monkey see monkey do

(unless obvious favoritism is obvious)

[hagard]

theres a reason tune made qq threads
he made them because andis made qq threads and the gm's responded by undoing their punishment

monkey see monkey do

(unless obvious favoritism is obvious)

u miss ur pal tune aye? chewie seems ultra sad

[Yagebasto]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I knew mobs sometimes acted screwy after gating, but I never connected this to doing it maliciously with highsun until it was public knowledge here.

i r send teh n00dz

didnt you do the highsun bug to screw with tunes epic? or was that something else.. idk i r n00b


aw yiss

[quido]

lol no, I was just trying to extort gear from Nihilum bards to show them explicitly how to do Eldrig - it was ridiculous it took several days to get an Eldrig

also my bard was 51 at the time

[freez]

theres a reason tune made qq threads
he made them because andis made qq threads and the gm's responded by undoing their punishment

monkey see monkey do

(unless obvious favoritism is obvious)




butthurt

[runlvlzero]

Better yet, tune only made like 2 threads, and a poll bout it. Not really that much, than 10 of us started bumping threads like this + this thread which has more views/posts.

[freez]

scum needs to stay banned


l2p by rules


thx u try again

[Tradesonred]

How does that PnP Kool aid taste all you Born-again bluebies

[chu]

im just weighing in as an unbiased observer
unbiased in this situation anyway

best solution is obviously wipe it clean 2 years ago

[hagard]

best solution is obviously wipe it clean

/signed

[Rallyd]

Rallyd, do you think people who intentionally crash zones should be permabanned?

Depends if the method used to crash the zone is part of regular game-play mechanics or not.

[runlvlzero]

IDK freez u say butthurt, but I buff/rez/exp your pals in guk, than you come in and say "I hate flowers" when some total OOR newb asks for clarity. (newb was not me, I was ignoring you)

Seems like your the one who is hurt.

[runlvlzero]

im just weighing in as an unbiased observer
unbiased in this situation anyway

best solution is obviously wipe it clean 2 years ago

stay in legacy plllleeeeeze for the loveofbabyjesus

than there's no need for custom exp and all this bullshit PVE grind.

Also people need to L2pvp in places other than CB, Unrest, and Guk...

We got Sola, Perma, RE, Xorbb, blackburrow.

I am a bit sad I missed out on all the HHK pvps.

[Kontra]

theres a reason tune made qq threads
he made them because andis made qq threads and the gm's responded by undoing their punishment

monkey see monkey do

(unless obvious favoritism is obvious)

Ding Ding Ding... we have a winner.

[Eslade]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s157/deathsia250/threadderailedsu2.gif

[tehruoh]

just the fact that if tune stops bitching he will get his account back makes me wanna VOMIT

Shut up chuck you quit every other month regardless

[hagard]

Shut up chuck you quit every other month regardless

dont u tell chuck 2 shut up

[tehruoh]

theres a reason tune made qq threads
he made them because andis made qq threads and the gm's responded by undoing their punishment

monkey see monkey do

(unless obvious favoritism is obvious)

Monkey see monkey do, now ee`rybody got a chevy

[Bazia]

At what point does this Tune forum shit get excessive enough to forum ban?

Were about 10 threads and 1,000 posts in already.

[Tune]

over 9000 atleast

[Eslade]

over 9000 atleast

I'll bite.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwhv2roIab1qd47jqo1_500.gif

[Supreme]

Yes there were alot of players in Nihilum that felt Holocaust getting disbanded/banned was a bit excessive. Yet we were not going to bash staff over it.

However when the tears started about Nihilum "also exploiting nagafen/vox" we gladly accepted the ruling of Rogean and turned over everything that was requested as a result.

Wish people could move past it and stop using it as a pulpit for failure. You have a good thing going with Red Dawn..do not soil it with legacy complaints.

[Tune]

Yes there were alot of players in Nihilum that felt Holocaust getting disbanded/banned was a bit excessive. Yet we were not going to bash staff over it.

However when the tears started about Nihilum "also exploiting nagafen/vox" we gladly accepted the ruling of Rogean and turned over everything that was requested as a result.

Wish people could move past it and stop using it as a pulpit for failure. You have a good thing going with Red Dawn..do not soil it with legacy complaints.

their ban got reduced to 1 and 2 week suspensions

all characters from that day I have seen in game after the fact

the fact that u guys are still crying about it is mind boggling

you were looking for an excuse to quit because you realized you suck without MQ

or maybe you didn't want to work that hard on an emu server

maybe its a combination of both

[Eslade]

This thread \/
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Neil-Patrick-Harris-Gun-to-Head.gif

[Tune]

http://i52.tinypic.com/169n6n7.gif

[Slathar]

http://i52.tinypic.com/169n6n7.gif

Such a good gif.

[NotKringe]

their ban got reduced to 1 and 2 week suspensions

all characters from that day I have seen in game after the fact

the fact that u guys are still crying about it is mind boggling

you were looking for an excuse to quit because you realized you suck without MQ

or maybe you didn't want to work that hard on an emu server

maybe its a combination of both


Where is my necro Kringe?

:(
I don't think anyones crying about it, and it didn't matter that it was a 2 week suspension. The only thing that people looked at was wow, we just got an entire guild banned (10-15 who weren't even online) for something that everyones been doing..

Imagine if ALL of Nihilum even the ones who haven't played for a year were all banned for the (lame VP Pull spot exploit everyone cried about).. On the first time you did it?

[Tune]

i have seen kringe in game

lets be honest though, we didnt do the same exact thing... and ive been through this so much i mean heh ,

2 weeks for that? i duno, not too bad

[Hughman]

Idk why you think what we did was anything different. The first time we killed nagafen we had maybe 14 people, most of us were under 48. Doesn't matter if we had more people exploiting him, exploiting is exploiting.

[Tune]

Idk why you think what we did was anything different. The first time we killed nagafen we had maybe 14 people, most of us were under 48. Doesn't matter if we had more people exploiting him, exploiting is exploiting.

there were so many problems with the encounter , dont know where to begin

the first kill was fine, aside from the fact the aoes were bugged out and not going off, this is the ONLY reason we were able to kill it.

in the real world, the /petition would have solved the issue. mob would have been fixed quickly and we would have carried on our merry way.

in the next several weeks i can count mayb 1-2 times where the fight was clearly over , and when the dragon was low life, some1 low health aggroed and made him path into a wall. second bug we petitioned and, again, went on our merry way, being legit as fuck

then holocaust decided to contest. using 18 people camping the ls zoneline while naggy was being soloed inside of a wall, (keto) 100%-0... after the gms specifically told them not to do this


waiting to see how your going to spin this one

[Hughman]

You are trying to make it seem like I wasn't there, as nerdy as it sounds I was a lot closer to the dragon than you were, lol. After the first accidental bug of nagafen the next 3-4 were purposely put in the same spot. I can promise you he didn't low health aggro into a wall because he wasn't Ae'ing in the first place. Que Heartbrands Trolololol nagafen aoe SS.

TLDR of all nagafen arguments: All whistles involved were filthy only some were cleansed.

[Tune]

You are trying to make it seem like I wasn't there, as nerdy as it sounds I was a lot closer to the dragon than you were, lol. After the first accidental bug of nagafen the next 3-4 were purposely put in the same spot. I can promise you he didn't low health aggro into a wall because he wasn't Ae'ing in the first place. Que Heartbrands Trolololol nagafen aoe SS.

TLDR of all nagafen arguments: All whistles involved were filthy only some were cleansed.

i still dont like that 100%

first kill was in king tranix room

later kills were in different spots in an attempt to avoid glitches , i think we tried the halwlay be4 the last door, and in the lair itself, when the gms told us to fight it there

i can respect your opinion on the second part , but then again its still just an opinion

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

man tune arguing with the guy who tanked the dragon every single time

jesus

just give it a rest and admit that you're a filthy scumbag

[Tune]

man tune arguing with the guy who tanked the dragon every single time

jesus

just give it a rest and admit that you're a filthy scumbag

just trying to go over events for the 100th time, spreading truth

if you want to call me a scumbag i can respect your opinion

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

the only truth here is that you guys knowingly exploited nagafen 3 or 4 times, then holocaust did it 2 times, and holocaust got punished while nihilum did not

that's all there is to it

[Tune]

the only truth here is that you guys knowingly exploited nagafen 3 or 4 times, then holocaust did it 2 times, and holocaust got punished while nihilum did not

that's all there is to it

lmao

ur so mad at the truth

give it up bro

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

what is false about what i just said

[Tune]

what is false about what i just said

see post 430 - 433

[Lawler]

man tune is an idiot
^, I wonder if tune thinks anyone actually believes him.

[Labanen]

At least noone posted anything to prove him wrong as far as i can see.

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

At least noone posted anything to prove him wrong as far as i can see.

i'm guessing you missed the 100 page thread where rogaine posts all the kill logs, proving that none of them were legit

[Tune]

i'm guessing you missed the 100 page thread where rogaine posts all the kill logs, proving that none of them were legit

its been a long time

post em

[SamwiseRed]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Pho_in_Saigon.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcScqVPKQtsmHgoFT0DZNh_Wa7TTSfGPG 5e8iK1I5qs2r3BicCp_XQ

http://www.photos.greatmyanmar.com/wp-content/extra/elly-tran-ha-with-short-dress/elly-super-hot-asian-girl-08.jpg

love Vietnamese food and people naw mean.

only asians i like. latinas still numba 1.

[Tune]

brows 2 thick

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

thread:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60683

"A" bugged out nagafen. There have been 5 nagafen deaths in total. You guys are saying every one of them were bugged out?

Here's what I'm willing to compromise.

Yes I'm bending non-disclosure.. this has been a pretty unique situation though affecting the server.

I will be taking loot away from all the nagafen kills except the last one.

Holocaust will be reinstated.

Suspended players will remain suspended.

Banned officers will be reduced to suspensions.

the logs are no longer accessible, yet here we see rogean still giving punishment to holocaust, and then saying he will strip the nagafen loot from nihilum(did this ever even happen? i don't think it did) because they exploited the kills as well

5 exploited nagafen kills:
3 from nihilum
2 from holocaust

in the end, holocaust was deleted, then remade, but everyone involved got suspended, and most quit because of how fucking retarded the situation was

nihilum was threatened to have their loot taken away from all but the last one(which was still exploited), which has never been confirmed to have happened

[SamwiseRed]

lol true, first google image, aint got time to sort that shit out.

[Nirgon]

the only truth here is that you guys knowingly exploited nagafen 3 or 4 times, then holocaust did it 2 times, and holocaust got punished while nihilum did not

that's all there is to it

Loot took a long time to disappear. Lots of filthy mist walkers farming filthy blue diamonds in oot.

Admitting it or not doesn't matter at this point, stop lookin' dumb Tune.

[Nirgon]

turned over everything that was requested as a result.


You transferred/ground dropped loot around as much as possible to make Rogean's job tracking it all down and removing it harder.

Not that doing a remove all of anything on Naggy/Vox's loot tables would have been something hard to do... considering everything up to that point was exploited... nothing to track down.

Long story short you guys didn't "happily comply" by any sense of the term.

[Labanen]

I understand that you re mad holo was banned, they propably shouldnt have been. But it really has nothing to do with Tunes Ban/suspension.

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

i wasn't the one bringing it up

just putting tune in his place

[Yagebasto]

cwall would make cast proud. strongdetective/10

[Galacticus]

http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/437741/resized_creepy-willy-wonka-meme-generator-oh-you-re-still-talking-i-m-sure-you-have-something-important-to-say-fb51c4.jpg

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

cwall would make cast proud. strongdetective/10

i know the coach is up in heaven, smiling down upon me

RIP

forever in our hearts

[Butthead]

i was in holo too, been gettin nothing but 'mistakes' from gm's. things ran much smoother before they started getting too involved. i hada flawless acct record until sirken.
why is he so sensitive? whats happening to this server, Again....

[Tune]

thread:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60683





the logs are no longer accessible, yet here we see rogean still giving punishment to holocaust, and then saying he will strip the nagafen loot from nihilum(did this ever even happen? i don't think it did) because they exploited the kills as well

5 exploited nagafen kills:
3 from nihilum
2 from holocaust

in the end, holocaust was deleted, then remade, but everyone involved got suspended, and most quit because of how fucking retarded the situation was

nihilum was threatened to have their loot taken away from all but the last one(which was still exploited), which has never been confirmed to have happened

we lost a scimitar of the mistwalker and other shit i forgot about this

and after all that your STILL saying the situation was with out compromise? you are a sad , sad man

[COLGATETHEGRANDMASTER]

we lost a scimitar of the mistwalker and other shit i forgot about this

and after all that your STILL saying the situation was with out compromise? you are a sad , sad man

oh you lost a mistwalker months after it had been nerfed to uselessness?

my bad, the punishment was even!!

[Tune]

oh you lost a mistwalker months after it had been nerfed to uselessness?

my bad, the punishment was even!!

wasnt months clown

[thisuserwasbannedlol]

heres your chance to kiss my fucking ass !

[Nirgon]

wasnt months clown

Well, it wasn't weeks, so lol

[Butthead]

srsly wth is happening to red99