Why do people trash talk the Ranger?

[Revixe06]

I just started rolling as a Ranger. Alot of the times when I announce that I'm looking for a group, people will start talking trash about the Ranger. Why is that? Whats wrong with them?

[Toony]

New to Everquest? Welcome if so.

[Agaron]

Most groups don't want -40% added into a group for a dps class when they could grab another class for that.

Rangers have a lot of skills to max, which make them prob one of the hardest classes to play. Gear them right, and they're excellent dps, and utility. I wish I rolled one instead of a pal to be honest. Sow and track prob a lot more useful than 0% res. Can't wait for expansions.

[Edgetiq]

People deem Paladins and Rangers useless in Classic.

I like Pallys though!

[Vigilance]

Paladins can tank better than Rangers and I'd rather have lay on hands than track I think. Track is really nice of course but not while leveling really. It's more useful for farming, at least that's my opinion.


Rangers aren't worthless they just sort of lack a niche. There are other classes that can DPS better, and Ranger utility is typically covered by the millions of Druids and Shamans out there. If Druid wasn't as popular a class at it is, Rangers would have much more utility because a well-played ranger can CC pretty decently with root and snare since they aren't going to be using their mana for much else.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

TBH? Most of us who played eq in classic, know, the rest just are sheep. And the teasing comes from classic players, real trashing of rangers and your class wouldn't come from anyone mature or knowledgeable. The fact is the ranger class really didn't come into it's own until Planes of power I believe. You won't be able to tank, and there are many other options for dps, rangers don't get that bow dps for many expansions.

I wouldn't say I feel sorry for rangers, but I grouped with many a good ranger, and it just sucked their class was underpowered. A skilled player can still perform well, and make the toon useful though.

Anyway, play what you want man. Some people discriminate against classes in their group, if they see a ranger lfg, and have a dps spot open, they won't invite. Those people I wouldn't want to group with anyway.

Play what you want, get used to the ribbing though, and teasing. Just ignore it when it becomes more then that

Also, you have alot of min/maxers now, we learned from 1999 on, what race/classes work best. You can't fault someone for playing the ogre war, instead of say a human, or a necro instead of a ranger now... I have a good friend who rerolled a warrior in 199 when he couldn't kill blues at lvl 3X on his ranger... like everyone else. And he just joined p99 as an ogre war, instead of the human war, or the wood elf ranger.

Blah, bottom line play what you enjoy mate.

[eqdruid76]

You didn't see a lot of ranger bashing until The Fellowship of the Ring came out, at which point every bow class in every video game became the most popular with young internet tough guys who thought Orlando Bloom was dreamy.....

This phenomenon continues to this day. A TON of imbeciles roll rangers because they want to be as cool as Legolas. The same is true of the hunter class in WoW, the hunter class (obviously) in LotRO, the archer classes in DAoC, etc.

Add this to the fact that several rangers on P99 are trying to play the class the same way they played it in 2005...

Truth is, there is no such thing as a bad ranger. Just bad players, the majority of which have multiple alts on which they equally suck. Having said that, if you come across a wood elf ranger named Legolias, Legolasx, Lagolass, or any douchey variation thereof, just know they WILL try to tank, they WILL need on everthing that drops, and they DO have aspirations of plundering Will Turner's booty.

[frefaln]

People deem Paladins and Rangers useless in Classic.

I like Pallys though!

Heh, I love Paladins, I don't care what anyone says. That said, I've had to point out to a handful of young Paladins that Flash of Light is a must at level 9. They were unaware of its use, and that's fine — nobody knows everything about every class, not even Anleus.

Paladin begins at level 9 as far as I'm concerned, it's a question of whether one has enough patience to get there. They seem kinda silly until then.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Legolas is a badass.

[Bubbles]

eqdruid summed it up perfectly, and even hit a few truths I never realized till he put it in words.

Also : Rangers are a lot touchier than other classes. So people rile them often just to get a reaction out of them.

In truth, a lot of the animosity is based on the fact that the game has been out for over 10 years.. There are few that still don't know most of the mechanics behind it. It's painfully clear to those that do that the rangers aren't a strong pick to begin with, even without considering the silly 40% xp penalty. Can they tank? Sure in a pinch. Can they dps? Sure, and almost on par with the other dps melees. Do they bring utility to the table? Yep. Can they track? Yeah. Etc. etc.

Have you ever gone into a dungeon and had the group break up because the ranger had to leave? Have you ever said "Man, if we had a ranger, we could totally go to Guk right now"? Have you ever said "Boy, I sure hope that ranger corpse gets a res" on your way to a camp? No, No, and Yes.

Are they vital? Nope. If driven by a decent player, are they useful? Sure. If you had a friend starting out on the server naked, would you honestly say "Dude, you totally gotta be a ranger?" Yeaaaahh.... That's kinda the point.

[Noleafclover]

Sub-par at everything till luclin. 'Cept tracking, but others' tracking is fine.

[Bubbles]

I just started rolling as a Ranger. Alot of the times when I announce that I'm looking for a group, people will start talking trash about the Ranger. Why is that? Whats wrong with them?

Actually, on second thought, if your ranger had been named "Revive", that would have been pretty awesome.

p.s. everyone talks trash about rangers, it does *not* mean they won't group with you if they have room. Be good natured about it and you'll see that 95% of it is good-natured ribbing.

[Bruster]

theyre good for taking death touches, that's about it

[Serith]

Because rangers make FD look like shit.

[Qian]

As I recall, part of the problem was ranger tended to be too good at dps at times, pull agro and then die. So there were a lot of jokes about rangers being dead all the time.

[guineapig]

You people need to start coming up with new ranger jokes instead of the same 10-year old jokes you keep repeating.

I feel like I'm hearing knock-knock jokes.

[HippoNipple]

Rangers can be pretty sweet versus casters in duels, thats all I got.

[azeth]

pretty irreplaceable in PoP

guess we're classic though :rolleyes:

[Malrubius]

Why do people trash talk the Ranger?

The same reason Sir Edmund Hilary climbed Mout Everest - because it was there.

[Starwynd]

I've heard all the jokes, in fact, there were endless ranger jokes last night in the group I was in, however, it didn't deter me from continuing to play the game with the class I like. Yes, the class exp penalty sucks, especially paired with racial penalty, but I have not found a group that has outrightly refused to join me based on my class/race. Don't forget the essense of the character is the player behind the screen. I've grouped with people who had horrible skills, regardless of their class and race. Last night I was in a group with a failure-of-a-warrior who couldn't pull aggro off me when I pulled with a single bow-shot.

The job of a ranger is flexibility and although not as powerful compared to when I played on Live w/ PoP, rangers can hold a variety of jobs including light healing, crowd control (snare and then root later on), class-specific buffs and two major components to being a well-rounded rangre - use of ARCHERY and PULLING. For the past two nights in Oasis, I have been the main puller for 7 continuous hours of grouping (ya, a bit of overplay for sure). If people claim that rangers do not add that much DPS to the group, then fine, do what you do best - and it's to chain pull mobs so that as the tanks mob falls on the ground, the new one arrives. While you do not have sneak/hide likes rogues (at lower levels) and FD to rely on, using a combination of a watchful eye for adds/paths to take, you can easily single out mobs using bow/arrow or a combination of spells which allow for fast pulls (any DD spell) or slow pulls (snare) - the optimal condition is to not overburden the group with too many mobs at a time.

Playing a class is about using the unique abilities and making the best out of it, not about a "greater" or more "superior" class. Also, refining your gaming skills is what makes a good player, because a level 50 character with a player that has no gaming capacity will fail much more than the level 1 soloing in gfay. My character is by-no-means a twink char as I'm poor and underequipped, but a few levels ago in CB and Unrest, I was the MA with a fully effective group. The group compoisition was messed but we made amazing exp, 1 ranger, 3 clerics and 2 druids. Finding a zone and mobs that work for you when in a group depending on your role is key to success. While I might not have pushed out great DPS, the clerics with their v.s undead nukes won our exp over as long as I could hold aggro (flame lick + snare + taunt/beg).

For the most part when ranger jokes come along, I just ignore them because if you let it get to you, then it's just like letting someone provoke you into a fight. If I group with someone who I deem to be a poor player or poor attitude, I simply will not friend them at the end of the group, but I will continue to play professionally for the sake of the other members. If you want revenge on a particular person 'cuz they're mouthy, do it after the group - a nice train or high-level mob ought to shut them up most of the time - track makes it easy to find mobs that would naturally slaughter them. Snare the mob, sit near the person you want to kill as the mob walks over slowly and /camp out :)

When I played on Live, I never really struggled with getting a group, as much as I've seen similar postings on forums where "rangers have it bad" and stuff. If you're finding problems getting a group, you have one of two options available, 1) make more friends when you DO have a group so you can rely on getting groups via connections and, 2) create your own groups. I'm not sure how I adopted myself to this playing style, but I've found rangers to be extremely versatile and learning to chain pull with good timing often wins over the hearts of many. Don't forget the exp penalties can easily be made up by consistent exp. A group that spends half their time doing CR's or sitting to med is no better off.

Keep in mind that because rangers are paper-tanks for most things above white cons, you should dump the mob as quickly as possible to your tank or better yet, have a competent tank who can get the aggro off you before you even get hit as you're pulling. Just last night I had a horrible experience with a completely incompetent warrior (funny that he left the group because he was the one who caused the death), so I enjoy the company of pally's or SK's because of their ability to prevent me from taking damage and thus healers can dedciate more time to healing the tank and reduce expending mana on me.

The thing about forming groups yourself is that you can "bite back". Keep a blacklist or poor players and players who have previously denied you grouping rights because of your class (which I have on an excel spreadsheet for searching purposes) and when they come asking you to join the group, tell them to piss off and remind them of their previous actions. It's not nice, but maybe it'll show them how karma works. I honestly prefer to make friends more than enemies, especially because in EQ, your reputation matters and will severely impact your ability to get or not get groups in the higher levels when there are dwindling number of players. If you create a good name for yourself, getting groups as a ranger is not hard at all and you will find that there is lesser negative-talk to rangers if you can prove yourself to be worthy of company.

[Koota]

I've heard all the jokes, in fact, there were endless ranger jokes last night in the group I was in, however, it didn't deter me from continuing to play the game with the class I like. Yes, the class exp penalty sucks, especially paired with racial penalty, but I have not found a group that has outrightly refused to join me based on my class/race. Don't forget the essense of the character is the player behind the screen. I've grouped with people who had horrible skills, regardless of their class and race. Last night I was in a group with a failure-of-a-warrior who couldn't pull aggro off me when I pulled with a single bow-shot.

The job of a ranger is flexibility and although not as powerful compared to when I played on Live w/ PoP, rangers can hold a variety of jobs including light healing, crowd control (snare and then root later on), class-specific buffs and two major components to being a well-rounded rangre - use of ARCHERY and PULLING. For the past two nights in Oasis, I have been the main puller for 7 continuous hours of grouping (ya, a bit of overplay for sure). If people claim that rangers do not add that much DPS to the group, then fine, do what you do best - and it's to chain pull mobs so that as the tanks mob falls on the ground, the new one arrives. While you do not have sneak/hide likes rogues (at lower levels) and FD to rely on, using a combination of a watchful eye for adds/paths to take, you can easily single out mobs using bow/arrow or a combination of spells which allow for fast pulls (any DD spell) or slow pulls (snare) - the optimal condition is to not overburden the group with too many mobs at a time.

Playing a class is about using the unique abilities and making the best out of it, not about a "greater" or more "superior" class. Also, refining your gaming skills is what makes a good player, because a level 50 character with a player that has no gaming capacity will fail much more than the level 1 soloing in gfay. My character is by-no-means a twink char as I'm poor and underequipped, but a few levels ago in CB and Unrest, I was the MA with a fully effective group. The group compoisition was messed but we made amazing exp, 1 ranger, 3 clerics and 2 druids. Finding a zone and mobs that work for you when in a group depending on your role is key to success. While I might not have pushed out great DPS, the clerics with their v.s undead nukes won our exp over as long as I could hold aggro (flame lick + snare + taunt/beg).

For the most part when ranger jokes come along, I just ignore them because if you let it get to you, then it's just like letting someone provoke you into a fight. If I group with someone who I deem to be a poor player or poor attitude, I simply will not friend them at the end of the group, but I will continue to play professionally for the sake of the other members. If you want revenge on a particular person 'cuz they're mouthy, do it after the group - a nice train or high-level mob ought to shut them up most of the time - track makes it easy to find mobs that would naturally slaughter them. Snare the mob, sit near the person you want to kill as the mob walks over slowly and /camp out :)

When I played on Live, I never really struggled with getting a group, as much as I've seen similar postings on forums where "rangers have it bad" and stuff. If you're finding problems getting a group, you have one of two options available, 1) make more friends when you DO have a group so you can rely on getting groups via connections and, 2) create your own groups. I'm not sure how I adopted myself to this playing style, but I've found rangers to be extremely versatile and learning to chain pull with good timing often wins over the hearts of many. Don't forget the exp penalties can easily be made up by consistent exp. A group that spends half their time doing CR's or sitting to med is no better off.

Keep in mind that because rangers are paper-tanks for most things above white cons, you should dump the mob as quickly as possible to your tank or better yet, have a competent tank who can get the aggro off you before you even get hit as you're pulling. Just last night I had a horrible experience with a completely incompetent warrior (funny that he left the group because he was the one who caused the death), so I enjoy the company of pally's or SK's because of their ability to prevent me from taking damage and thus healers can dedciate more time to healing the tank and reduce expending mana on me.

The thing about forming groups yourself is that you can "bite back". Keep a blacklist or poor players and players who have previously denied you grouping rights because of your class (which I have on an excel spreadsheet for searching purposes) and when they come asking you to join the group, tell them to piss off and remind them of their previous actions. It's not nice, but maybe it'll show them how karma works. I honestly prefer to make friends more than enemies, especially because in EQ, your reputation matters and will severely impact your ability to get or not get groups in the higher levels when there are dwindling number of players. If you create a good name for yourself, getting groups as a ranger is not hard at all and you will find that there is lesser negative-talk to rangers if you can prove yourself to be worthy of company.


tl;dr

[Bumamgar]

While I think Rangers add a decent bit of utility to a group, the overall perception of Rangers probably comes from the fact that they simply don't bring anything unique or compelling to the table.

There's really no reason to "pick" a Ranger over another class at this stage in the game. All of the things they can do, other classes can do better.

When you switch focus from grouping to raiding, the poor Ranger really starts to have issues, because there's really not a single thing they can do that makes them a worthwhile addition to a raid.

DPS? Get a Rogue or Monk instead
Puller? Monk or Bard
Healer? haha
Buffer? haha
Crowd Control? Enchanter or Shaman
Tank? Warrior, Pal, SK

The only thing pre-Weaponshield that Rangers are good for at a raid is as a Death Touch sacrifice, since the raid doesn't lose any key functionality when a Ranger dies :(

Of course, many of these issues were addressed in later expansions. Weaponshield pulling when combined with AE-Taunt is an extremely useful tactic in later encounters, and they even give Rangers some decent buffs eventually that are desirable for raiding, as well as a strong DPS boost. However, none of those features are in scope for this project (since AA isn't till Luclin).

[azeth]

DPS? Get a Rogue or Monk instead
Puller? Monk or Bard
Healer? haha
Buffer? haha
Crowd Control? Enchanter or Shaman
Tank? Warrior, Pal, SK

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Of course, many of these issues were addressed in later expansions. Weaponshield pulling when combined with AE-Taunt is an extremely useful tactic in later encounters, and they even give Rangers some decent buffs eventually that are desirable for raiding, as well as a strong DPS boost. However, none of those features are in scope for this project (since AA isn't till Luclin).

QFT

[YendorLootmonkey]

While I think Rangers add a decent bit of utility to a group, the overall perception of Rangers probably comes from the fact that they simply don't bring anything unique or compelling to the table.

There's really no reason to "pick" a Ranger over another class at this stage in the game. All of the things they can do, other classes can do better.

When you switch focus from grouping to raiding, the poor Ranger really starts to have issues, because there's really not a single thing they can do that makes them a worthwhile addition to a raid.

DPS? Get a Rogue or Monk instead
Puller? Monk or Bard
Healer? haha
Buffer? haha
Crowd Control? Enchanter or Shaman
Tank? Warrior, Pal, SK

The only thing pre-Weaponshield that Rangers are good for at a raid is as a Death Touch sacrifice, since the raid doesn't lose any key functionality when a Ranger dies :(

Of course, many of these issues were addressed in later expansions. Weaponshield pulling when combined with AE-Taunt is an extremely useful tactic in later encounters, and they even give Rangers some decent buffs eventually that are desirable for raiding, as well as a strong DPS boost. However, none of those features are in scope for this project (since AA isn't till Luclin).

40% XP penalty for what then? ;)

[fugazi]

40% XP penalty for what then? ;)

Choosing the wrong class when you could've gone bard ;)

[Vanech]

Rangers aren't bad - they're just misunderstood.

I grew up with a WE ranger from orc hill (at lvl 4 shortly before kunark was released) to farming mobs in HoHa... shiny brass shields to the windblade and practically every drop in between. He tanked *everything* and got us through every single mob our little cadre of non-affiliated hardcore players could handle, from Nagafen to Doomshade in UP. We took down Klandicar with seven people Mid-Luclin (pre-grieg's end) with 5 of the 7 sporting kunark level gear just for the fuck of it.

His name was Ieawenpo - and I hope that he finds his way here to P1999 - cause his ability would put all of you to shame, and I mean 'all of you' from the most ice ridden hoar-frosted regions of my heart.

Rangers are only bullshit in the hands of bullshit players... I watched this guy man up and handle anything we wanted to take down.

N' despite all you naysayers who lament on the amount of heals that had to be laid down - he constantly operated on a one Cleric one patch healer status... Cecil was the Cleric (HE) Bastile or Shoud were the Patchers (WE druids) We wiped maybe, in our 150+ raid targets.. 10.. 12 times, and he tanked every single time with a ranger by the name of Trajen as his off-tank 90% of the time (thank you guys for getting my monkey his earring of voracity off of DS!)

[guineapig]

Crowd Control? Enchanter or Shaman

Shaman?
Not bard?
Or hell, even necro!

If root is considered crowd control then wizards and druids have better root spells.

[eqgamer]

You people need to start coming up with new ranger jokes instead of the same 10-year old jokes you keep repeating.

I feel like I'm hearing knock-knock jokes.



Why didn't rangers get Feign Death?
















'Cuz the fall to the ground would kill em!

[quellren]

Rangers aren't bad - they're just misunderstood.

{...snipped...}
His name was Ieawenpo - and I hope that he finds his way here to P1999 -
{...more snipped}


There can't be more than one guy choosing that seemingly random combination of letters to form a name. If so, I saw him on the PEQ server earlier in the week. I think he might have even been a ranger. In case you wanted to reconnect. It's a long shot but, hey.

[Kastro]

Rangers are Good for Guild VS guild PVP.. good track.. Snare.. Nice fast nuke at 49... Get a Windstriker... http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5522 that thing is a game changer... that and the combust dagger from Howling stones... or use an Argent Protector.. Rangers can be pretty sick with the right gear and played right.

[guineapig]

I just thought I should add this.

I was recently in a kick-ass BnB group with a ranger as our tank. Group consisted of a Bard, enchanter, monk (puller), rogue and druid. That's right the only healer was a level 47 druid and the tank was a 47 or 48 ranger. Stayed there for hours. Not a single death, steady exp. No down time except for AFK or LD.

The ranger was getting nothing but 270HP greater heals and group regen and was using flame lick and root.

Fuck all the haters!

[mimixownzall]

Our core group was an SK, ranger, druid, mage, cleric and enchanter during kunark. we did really good and could do anything outside of a raid mob. I don't think adding another class other than ranger would have added anything, really. a ranger with decent weapons and gear can really do good dps in Kunark.

[Abacab-insurection]

BnB group with a ranger as our tank. Group consisted of a Bard, enchanter, monk (puller), rogue and druid.

Fuck all the haters!

I bolded the things that MADE that group work... I'm sorry but playing an SK I can pull several mobs and tank them just fine. Let's see your ranger chain pull like that for an AoE group

[YendorLootmonkey]

I'm sorry but playing an SK I can pull several mobs and feign death and train the shit out of your group.

Fixed it for ya. :)

[Abacab-insurection]

Fixed it for ya. :)

Oh you! You know me waaay to well <3

[Abacab-insurection]

too* fuuuck

[YendorLootmonkey]

Oh you! You know me waaay to well <3

Just wanted to make it more realistic. :)

[Maelstrom]

You didn't see a lot of ranger bashing until The Fellowship of the Ring came out, at which point every bow class in every video game became the most popular with young internet tough guys who thought Orlando Bloom was dreamy.....

This phenomenon continues to this day. A TON of imbeciles roll rangers because they want to be as cool as Legolas. The same is true of the hunter class in WoW, the hunter class (obviously) in LotRO, the archer classes in DAoC, etc.

Add this to the fact that several rangers on P99 are trying to play the class the same way they played it in 2005...

Truth is, there is no such thing as a bad ranger. Just bad players, the majority of which have multiple alts on which they equally suck. Having said that, if you come across a wood elf ranger named Legolias, Legolasx, Lagolass, or any douchey variation thereof, just know they WILL try to tank, they WILL need on everthing that drops, and they DO have aspirations of plundering Will Turner's booty.

Wrong. Ranger bashing occurred loooooong before the LOTR movies came out. In 2001, the popular saying was "Ranger down!" due to the fact that Rangers always seemed to die during Kael raids.

[ieawenpo]

Rangers aren't bad - they're just misunderstood.

I grew up with a WE ranger from orc hill (at lvl 4 shortly before kunark was released) to farming mobs in HoHa... shiny brass shields to the windblade and practically every drop in between. He tanked *everything* and got us through every single mob our little cadre of non-affiliated hardcore players could handle, from Nagafen to Doomshade in UP. We took down Klandicar with seven people Mid-Luclin (pre-grieg's end) with 5 of the 7 sporting kunark level gear just for the fuck of it.

His name was Ieawenpo - and I hope that he finds his way here to P1999 - cause his ability would put all of you to shame, and I mean 'all of you' from the most ice ridden hoar-frosted regions of my heart.

Rangers are only bullshit in the hands of bullshit players... I watched this guy man up and handle anything we wanted to take down.

N' despite all you naysayers who lament on the amount of heals that had to be laid down - he constantly operated on a one Cleric one patch healer status... Cecil was the Cleric (HE) Bastile or Shoud were the Patchers (WE druids) We wiped maybe, in our 150+ raid targets.. 10.. 12 times, and he tanked every single time with a ranger by the name of Trajen as his off-tank 90% of the time (thank you guys for getting my monkey his earring of voracity off of DS!)

I have a low level ranger on p99.
I play mostly on EZ server though.
Nice comments bro.:)

[Alawen Everywhere]

I was pulling and tanking bugs and bats on my 43 or 44 ranger the other day. The cleric didn't seem to need any more med breaks than with any other tank. I am twinked to shit, though.

[Dominick]

do what you do best - and it's to chain pull mobs so that as the tanks mob falls on the ground, the new one arrives.


This. Its what they do.

When the camp is dry, up comes track and you pull a roamer.

"Steel isn't strong: flesh is stronger."

Class isn't strong, players are stronger


The thing about forming groups yourself is that you can "bite back". Keep a blacklist or poor players and players who have previously denied you grouping rights because of your class (which I have on an excel spreadsheet for searching purposes)


I can think of two players back in the day who made an idiots list for me, and I didn't need a spreadsheet. That sounds like too much accounting work to keep track of idiots.

[hedbonker]

Why don't rangers get FD? Because the fall would kill them...

Paladins: Heal like a warrior, tank like a cleric!

I had an alt 75 ranger in live. I loved playing it. It was a real hoot. Headshot was awesome and I could solo like mad. When they added mercs, it was just sick... My first toon in live was a wizard and I met a ranger in CB and we played together as a team for about a year. Sometimes it was hella hard but it was always a blast to figure out what strat would get the mobs dead with a minimum of downtime...

[ieawenpo]

Rangers aren't bad - they're just misunderstood.

I grew up with a WE ranger from orc hill (at lvl 4 shortly before kunark was released) to farming mobs in HoHa... shiny brass shields to the windblade and practically every drop in between. He tanked *everything* and got us through every single mob our little cadre of non-affiliated hardcore players could handle, from Nagafen to Doomshade in UP. We took down Klandicar with seven people Mid-Luclin (pre-grieg's end) with 5 of the 7 sporting kunark level gear just for the fuck of it.

His name was Ieawenpo - and I hope that he finds his way here to P1999 - cause his ability would put all of you to shame, and I mean 'all of you' from the most ice ridden hoar-frosted regions of my heart.

Rangers are only bullshit in the hands of bullshit players... I watched this guy man up and handle anything we wanted to take down.

N' despite all you naysayers who lament on the amount of heals that had to be laid down - he constantly operated on a one Cleric one patch healer status... Cecil was the Cleric (HE) Bastile or Shoud were the Patchers (WE druids) We wiped maybe, in our 150+ raid targets.. 10.. 12 times, and he tanked every single time with a ranger by the name of Trajen as his off-tank 90% of the time (thank you guys for getting my monkey his earring of voracity off of DS!)

I have a low level ranger on p99 but run a pretty good guild on EZ server.

[ShadowWulf]

I love rangers, but I have an issue leveling them because of the xp penalty and the lower levels just SUCK. Im not the soloing type so ill group 24/7 but even then groups tend to pass up a ranger if a caster is available.

[Alawen Everywhere]

I've soloed my ranger most of the way up and he's now planar. Rangers have excellent tools to solo--snare, root, heal, damage shield, other buffs. Just find a nice spot with some blue mobs and go to town.

[bufferofnewbies]

Why do people trash talk the Ranger?
Because online games are like the internet chat boards. People like to be rude while noone can strike back at them. This leads to people being rude to rangers: as they usually can't hear you to get mad anyway, since they are running back for their corpse from another zone. :p

[Lelroni]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_lYxTywr8#t=00m43s

Ranger powa

[Bunzi]

Paladins are good for 1 thing... Pulling dragons.

Rangers are good for 1 thing... gating (ranjagate!)

[jenga]

I love rangers, I don't know why they ever got the reputation they have. :(

[White Ranger]

I just started rolling as a ranger haha what a faggot suck it meow

Sick burn. Took just under 3 years to come up with that gem.

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

lololol

[eqgmrdbz]

Guess why i started playing a Ranger, ....because i wanted to play a Ranger, duh.

Rangers are shit right now, we have the exp hole, we have no quiver haste, tracking has been nerfed.

But, i still wanna play a Ranger "fuck me right".

[Laugher]

I don't think I saw this yet in this post but had to throw out this one:

Ranger Gate

that is all :p

[Dragonmist]

Make sure you do the Call of Flames spell quest and youll be oom between it and snares or your not playing right...Also just stick with the ranger class if you enjoy it , youll be trash talked a lot...

[Acrux Bcrux]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_lYxTywr8#t=00m43s

Ranger powa

This video was my inspiration to play a ranger since i first saw it back in the day. I even play with velious ui on this server because of it hahaha. Man, good shit its been a long time since ive seen this.... Shit i actually forgot about this video until today!

[justin2090]

I think alot of ppl have been wow'n-ized (<---new word!). They think that every class should be able to do the same dps as every other class. This is classic EQ and all men were not created equal.

[Pan]

My ikky monk has a worse exp. penalty than any ranger on the server.

[Suirad]

Rangers > You

[Visual]

Rangers are the shit

corrected

[Kevynne]

I like rangers. Geared well and played right, they can tank as well as pally/sk.
I also lik PALLIES alot c:

[Nirgon]

Ranger + bp cleric duos rage fire

Geared rangers can't be good etc

[Raavak]

I like rangers. Geared well and played right, they can tank as well as pally/sk.No, they wear chain. But I think they out-dps the knights as a trade-off.