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stonez138
12-19-2013, 09:25 PM
If you are in TMO and you have any you will /guildremove. If you're not in TMO and you have any you will boycott/blackball the scum of the server.

Barkingturtle
12-19-2013, 09:26 PM
If you are in TMO and you have any you will /guildremove. If you're not in TMO and you have any you will boycott/blackball the scum of the server.

loramin
12-19-2013, 09:27 PM
If you're going to make a giant incendiary statement lake that, you could at least post why you feel that way.

khanable
12-19-2013, 09:28 PM
If you're going to make a giant incendiary statement lake that, you could at least post why you feel that way.

I'm sure 86 TMO accounts being banned for ruining the server don't have anything to do with it

Yinikren
12-19-2013, 09:28 PM
Read the damn news. 86 accounts banned for platinum hax?

Get off the server.

kylok
12-19-2013, 09:30 PM
Read the damn news. 86 accounts banned for platinum hax?

Get off the server.

loramin
12-19-2013, 09:31 PM
Read the damn news. 86 accounts banned for platinum hax?

Get off the server.

Geez relax, this post was originally in the main forum, and there was no mention of bans there. Not everyone reads the flame fest forum ...

stonez138
12-19-2013, 09:32 PM
It's actually on the mainpage not in RNF

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 09:33 PM
ya id def guildremove my self by now

cyryllis
12-19-2013, 09:35 PM
hurr derrrr a couple people in guild with access to a large number accounts means everyone is hacking and duping omzorz they stolz my megahurtz too


fucking retards.

most of us are pissed that we had members doing this shit, and we'd like to move on past the bullshit and keep on trucking as a guild. We are an easy target to get mad at, and sadly we had some people who were complete idiots who now drag our name deeper into the mud. Whatever, we will brush our shoulders off and come back in 2 weeks to continue to steal all your loot for 4th alts.

bitches

Itap
12-19-2013, 09:36 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/xf3iw2.jpg

knix
12-19-2013, 09:38 PM
OMG, you guys don't even know what you are talking about. There were 2 players mentioned that were involved in the dup stuff, 2 were TMO, we got mentioned but the other 1 guild did not. Only the players involved in the duping knew about it. The players involved were well liked and well trusted by members, as well as well known to most of the server and was a well liked individual.

The 86 accounts mentioned in the thread includes accounts that the individual may have logged into ONE single solitary time. To assist with rezzes, to get you out of a death loop, etc. Help you transfer some gear.

Don't tell yourself that you are morally superior to TMO because of what is going on here because all but the two in question had no idea.

loramin
12-19-2013, 09:38 PM
It's actually on the mainpage not in RNF

Ok, true, so let me rephrase: not everyone refreshes the main page regularly and/or reads the flame forum. Some of us just refresh the main forum page.

The "geez relax" part still stands un-edited ;)

YendorLootmonkey
12-19-2013, 09:39 PM
If you didn't park a ton of chars/alts at every raid target, people wouldn't NEED access to 86 accounts and expose you all to liability like this.

khanable
12-19-2013, 09:40 PM
Don't tell yourself that you are morally superior to TMO because of what is going on here because all but the two in question had no idea.

prove it

Yinikren
12-19-2013, 09:40 PM
Will TMO stand up from this? Maybe, maybe not.

Will you have a raiding mob monopoly again? Absolutely not.

Velious for casuals inc.

Vaildez
12-19-2013, 09:40 PM
hurr derrrr a couple people in guild with access to a large number accounts means everyone is hacking and duping omzorz they stolz my megahurtz too


fucking retards.

most of us are pissed that we had members doing this shit, and we'd like to move on past the bullshit and keep on trucking as a guild. We are an easy target to get mad at, and sadly we had some people who were complete idiots who now drag our name deeper into the mud. Whatever, we will brush our shoulders off and come back in 2 weeks to continue to steal all your loot for 4th alts.

bitches

This is why nobody likes you...Bunch of douchebags...

Pheer
12-19-2013, 09:40 PM
Don't tell yourself that you are morally superior to TMO because of what is going on here because all but the two in question had no idea.

TMO always acting like theyre morally superior to everyone else and now have a 2 week suspension and 86 banned accounts. Are you serious right now? You've drank so much of that koolaid that you seriously believe these guys had access to 86 guildmates' accounts and not ONE PERSON knew what was going on?

Ravager
12-19-2013, 09:40 PM
OMG, you guys don't even know what you are talking about. There were 2 players mentioned that were involved in the dup stuff, 2 were TMO, we got mentioned but the other 1 guild did not. Only the players involved in the duping knew about it. The players involved were well liked and well trusted by members, as well as well known to most of the server and was a well liked individual.

The 86 accounts mentioned in the thread includes accounts that the individual may have logged into ONE single solitary time. To assist with rezzes, to get you out of a death loop, etc. Help you transfer some gear.

Don't tell yourself that you are morally superior to TMO because of what is going on here because all but the two in question had no idea.

Gotta be more to it than this if Rogean was talking about disbanding.

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 09:41 PM
knix i really do love you but 2 people controlling 86 accounts? LOL lighten up babe

Purdee
12-19-2013, 09:42 PM
. Whatever, we will brush our shoulders off and come back in 2 weeks to continue to steal all your loot for 4th alts.

bitches

Maybe you should go reread Lord Rogeans post....

Vaildez
12-19-2013, 09:42 PM
Gotta be more to it than this if Rogean was talking about disbanding.

cyryllis
12-19-2013, 09:43 PM
sorry it is difficult for me to lower my mental state to a point where the RNF community can understand what I am trying to express.

Oh and I only have 1 character, who has been pretty much BiS for a long time.

Just fuel for the fire, some of us have to keep warm.

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 09:44 PM
lol when cry is posting you know tmo is furious, qq bro your guild is disgusting

cyryllis
12-19-2013, 09:46 PM
true, tmo is furious, at the members who cheated and hurt our stellar reputation

Terrapt
12-19-2013, 09:47 PM
If we do not see a significant improvement in the behavior of the raiding guilds and how they treat eachother, Velious will be released without raid content.

hurr derrrr a couple people in guild with access to a large number accounts means everyone is hacking and duping omzorz they stolz my megahurtz too


fucking retards.

most of us are pissed that we had members doing this shit, and we'd like to move on past the bullshit and keep on trucking as a guild. We are an easy target to get mad at, and sadly we had some people who were complete idiots who now drag our name deeper into the mud. Whatever, we will brush our shoulders off and come back in 2 weeks to continue to steal all your loot for 4th alts.

bitches

Sounds promising.

radditsu
12-19-2013, 09:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LonKGuS9uuQ

Ravager
12-19-2013, 09:50 PM
People don't join TMO because they have integrity.

radditsu
12-19-2013, 09:51 PM
People don't join TMO because they have integrity.



Cept Merkk

pras Merkk

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 09:51 PM
true, tmo is furious, at the members who cheated and hurt our stellar reputation

HURT? ***** yall scum now

Visual
12-19-2013, 09:53 PM
Most of us are good down to earth people who are not involved with this shit (and wouldn't if it were propositioned).

The people responsible for the duping have stepped forward. Why the entire guild is being punished is beyond me.

Don't be sheeple and buy into the propaganda

Lazie
12-19-2013, 09:54 PM
hurr derrrr a couple people in guild with access to a large number accounts means everyone is hacking and duping omzorz they stolz my megahurtz too


fucking retards.

most of us are pissed that we had members doing this shit, and we'd like to move on past the bullshit and keep on trucking as a guild. We are an easy target to get mad at, and sadly we had some people who were complete idiots who now drag our name deeper into the mud. Whatever, we will brush our shoulders off and come back in 2 weeks to continue to steal all your loot for 4th alts.

bitches

You obviously didn't read the news. This kind of attitude will no longer succeed on this server. Please change the way you think so we all have something better to log into in the future.

Yinikren
12-19-2013, 09:54 PM
Get off the server, you were associated with this shit because you shared a guild tag.

kylok
12-19-2013, 09:54 PM
OMG, you guys don't even know what you are talking about. There were 2 players mentioned that were involved in the dup stuff, 2 were TMO, we got mentioned but the other 1 guild did not. Only the players involved in the duping knew about it. The players involved were well liked and well trusted by members, as well as well known to most of the server and was a well liked individual.

The 86 accounts mentioned in the thread includes accounts that the individual may have logged into ONE single solitary time. To assist with rezzes, to get you out of a death loop, etc. Help you transfer some gear.

Don't tell yourself that you are morally superior to TMO because of what is going on here because all but the two in question had no idea.

Knix I don't personally feel that you are a bad person/player, I've actually enjoyed the time I've spent talking with you on Sirken's stream. However...

Ignorance of the law does not put you above it. It's time to face the music. Someone in your guild has been doing very bad things for a long time. This person had access to a staggering number of accounts, which is no one but the individual account owners faults. Anything said now in defense of said illegal activities is definitely too little too late, it will be impossible to live this down. We, the community are not "morally superior to TMO", but we also did allow 86 accounts to be accessed by a person duping plat, that's on TMO.

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 09:56 PM
Most of us are good down to earth people who are not involved with this shit (and wouldn't if it were propositioned).

The people responsible for the duping have stepped forward. Why the entire guild is being punished is beyond me.

Don't be sheeple and buy into the propaganda

if you had integrity or were down to earth you would remove yourself from guild :cool:

Vaildez
12-19-2013, 09:56 PM
Most of us are good down to earth people who are not involved with this shit (and wouldn't if it were propositioned).

The people responsible for the duping have stepped forward. Why the entire guild is being punished is beyond me.

Don't be sheeple and buy into the propaganda

Down to earth people that RMT'd and duped plat to have hundreds of accounts to park on raid spawns to monopolize raid content...

Archalen
12-19-2013, 09:56 PM
hurr derrrr a couple people in guild with access to a large number accounts means everyone is hacking and duping omzorz they stolz my megahurtz too


fucking retards.

most of us are pissed that we had members doing this shit, and we'd like to move on past the bullshit and keep on trucking as a guild. We are an easy target to get mad at, and sadly we had some people who were complete idiots who now drag our name deeper into the mud. Whatever, we will brush our shoulders off and come back in 2 weeks to continue to steal all your loot for 4th alts.

bitches

Dude, look at your attitude, you're not helping your guild name by being such a cocksmoker. You could have approached your reaction completely differently, but I look at this post and just see another cocky butthurt neckbeard asshole who farms pixels after his 3-11 shift at Walmart. Self-awareness is a nice thing to have.

YendorLootmonkey
12-19-2013, 09:57 PM
Only the players involved in the duping knew about it.

I believe Alarti has a two-word phrase for BS speculation you cannot possibly know with 100% certainty.

Heebee
12-19-2013, 09:58 PM
tmo ... stellar reputation

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/43130982.jpg

YendorLootmonkey
12-19-2013, 09:59 PM
The people responsible for the duping have stepped forward. Why the entire guild is being punished is beyond me.

Because it sure explains where all the plat came from to buy up all those accounts that have been used to dominate the raid scene.

YendorLootmonkey
12-19-2013, 10:01 PM
Internode's Ranger BOTB Title should be given to first level 3 ranger a GM sees.

YendorLootmonkey
12-19-2013, 10:03 PM
NM it was just removed via server MOTD... LOL

Yinikren
12-19-2013, 10:05 PM
Good job on removing the title. Now the rest of TMO just needs to go crawl back underground so we can have a normal velious.

radditsu
12-19-2013, 10:07 PM
I vote Yendor

stonez138
12-19-2013, 10:10 PM
I want to thank the TMO members that commented in this thread, especially cyryllis. You proved my point better then I ever could have.

Ravager
12-19-2013, 10:11 PM
I vote Yendor

+1

knix
12-19-2013, 10:11 PM
Knix I don't personally feel that you are a bad person/player, I've actually enjoyed the time I've spent talking with you on Sirken's stream. However...

Ignorance of the law does not put you above it. It's time to face the music. Someone in your guild has been doing very bad things for a long time. This person had access to a staggering number of accounts, which is no one but the individual account owners faults. Anything said now in defense of said illegal activities is definitely too little too late, it will be impossible to live this down. We, the community are not "morally superior to TMO", but we also did allow 86 accounts to be accessed by a person duping plat, that's on TMO.

He must have signed on to my cleric to rez me or rez the raid, when i had to leave. So one log in means that I am in cahoots with the duping that was done without my knowledge by that player on a char that wasn't mine?.

IMO this is bullshit and I am butthurt about this cause this is directly related to TMO's status as the top raiding guild on the server and not on the actual deeds by the two.

Vaildez
12-19-2013, 10:13 PM
He must have signed on to my cleric to rez me or rez the raid, when i had to leave. So one log in means that I am in cahoots with the duping that was done without my knowledge by that player on a char that wasn't mine?.

IMO this is bullshit and I am butthurt about this cause this is directly related to TMO's status as the top raiding guild on the server and not on the actual deeds by the two.

Maybe don't be sharing account info with anyone? It's your own goddamn fault.

YendorLootmonkey
12-19-2013, 10:13 PM
He must have signed on to my cleric to rez me or rez the raid, when i had to leave. So one log in means that I am in cahoots with the duping that was done without my knowledge by that player on a char that wasn't mine?.

Prove it.

YendorLootmonkey
12-19-2013, 10:14 PM
IMO this is bullshit and I am butthurt about this cause this is directly related to TMO's status as the top raiding guild on the server...

You're right, duping plat to potentially buy up to 86 accounts to help park out at raid targets and dominate the raid scene IS directly related to this.

Pheer
12-19-2013, 10:14 PM
IMO this is bullshit and I am butthurt about this cause this is directly related to TMO's status as the top raiding guild on the server and not on the actual deeds by the two.

Holy shit youre so delusional

TMO confirmed cult, not guild

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 10:15 PM
lol fuck it im loggin on blue just because of this

kylok
12-19-2013, 10:15 PM
He must have signed on to my cleric to rez me or rez the raid, when i had to leave. So one log in means that I am in cahoots with the duping that was done without my knowledge by that player on a char that wasn't mine?.

IMO this is bullshit and I am butthurt about this cause this is directly related to TMO's status as the top raiding guild on the server and not on the actual deeds by the two.

That's the risk you take when account info gets shared, hopefully this mistake will not be made in the future. Guilty by association is still guilty.

radditsu
12-19-2013, 10:18 PM
lol fuck it im loggin on blue just because of this

creating a character now!

knix
12-19-2013, 10:20 PM
Because it sure explains where all the plat came from to buy up all those accounts that have been used to dominate the raid scene.

All the accounts that the two individuals owned, are banned. so Yendor are you saying that two TMO players are able to dominate the server? cause that is what it sounds like.


two of my accounts are of the 86, my cleric, and my other cleric. no doubt used to rez the fallen on a raid after i had to leave. My whistle is clean but I cannot access my account. I am raid suspended because the officers didnt know what these two did in private. PRIVATE, no one in TMO knew except those two.

Vaildez
12-19-2013, 10:23 PM
All the accounts that the two individuals owned, are banned. so Yendor are you saying that two TMO players are able to dominate the server? cause that is what it sounds like.


two of my accounts are of the 86, my cleric, and my other cleric. no doubt used to rez the fallen on a raid after i had to leave. My whistle is clean but I cannot access my account. I am raid suspended because the officers didnt know what these two did in private. PRIVATE, no one in TMO knew except those two.

Sorry but 86 accounts that two people have access to... Please prove nobody else had information about this... Do you not agree this looks extremely suspicious!? Only two people are to blame!?

Bazia
12-19-2013, 10:23 PM
No one asked how the dudes provided millions of plat to buy dozens of accounts which were then used to dominate the raid scene completely.

That's believable

Pheer
12-19-2013, 10:23 PM
All the accounts that the two individuals owned, are banned. so Yendor are you saying that two TMO players are able to dominate the server? cause that is what it sounds like.


two of my accounts are of the 86, my cleric, and my other cleric. no doubt used to rez the fallen on a raid after i had to leave. My whistle is clean but I cannot access my account. I am raid suspended because the officers didnt know what these two did in private. PRIVATE, no one in TMO knew except those two.

You still arent fucking understanding that "I didnt know" is not an excuse. Letting people use your account is and has always been at your own risk. You're suspended because your guild harbored exploiting pieces of shit and now is acting like its even possible for them to get 86 accounts banned without anyone else knowing what they were doing.

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 10:23 PM
two people can exploit on 86 accounts, they must have 3 brains and 6 arms all i know

Heebee
12-19-2013, 10:24 PM
two of my accounts are of the 86, my cleric, and my other cleric. no doubt used to rez the fallen on a raid after i had to leave. My whistle is clean but I cannot access my account. I am raid suspended because the officers didnt know what these two did in private. PRIVATE, no one in TMO knew except those two.

Boohoo.

http://i.imgur.com/njIXMaw.jpg

Tasslehofp99
12-19-2013, 10:24 PM
hurr derrrr a couple people in guild with access to a large number accounts means everyone is hacking and duping omzorz they stolz my megahurtz too


fucking retards.

most of us are pissed that we had members doing this shit, and we'd like to move on past the bullshit and keep on trucking as a guild. We are an easy target to get mad at, and sadly we had some people who were complete idiots who now drag our name deeper into the mud. Whatever, we will brush our shoulders off and come back in 2 weeks to continue to steal all your loot for 4th alts.

bitches

Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas. People have been saying TMO is shady/cheating for years now, and you're surprised by this? That is laughable, at best.

kylok
12-19-2013, 10:25 PM
Anyone and everyone who got their account banned was either directly involved in said duping, or indirectly involved by providing their account information. It doesn't get more cut and dry than that.

Vaildez
12-19-2013, 10:25 PM
All the accounts that the two individuals owned, are banned. so Yendor are you saying that two TMO players are able to dominate the server? cause that is what it sounds like.


two of my accounts are of the 86, my cleric, and my other cleric. no doubt used to rez the fallen on a raid after i had to leave. My whistle is clean but I cannot access my account. I am raid suspended because the officers didnt know what these two did in private. PRIVATE, no one in TMO knew except those two.

Must be nice to login one day and mysteriously have 500k plat to spend.

knix
12-19-2013, 10:25 PM
I and the rest of the server think it is a good time to fucking step outside and walk some of those fat ass jelly rolls off for two weeks that you have built up over 2 yrs. You are worried about the 'status of top raiding guild' ON a FUCKING EMULATED server. You're pathetic lawLZ

The fact that i had to leave the raid before we were done should prove to you that I have a life. But, I know this is RNF, and you are stupid mad fat and sad, so I am not going to respond to the rest of it.

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 10:27 PM
<3 you knix, but just stop lol

knix
12-19-2013, 10:27 PM
Must be nice to login one day and mysteriously have 500k plat to spend.


Cowards post here without their game character information. And no such thing ever happened.

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 10:29 PM
i mean seriously eccezan making the guild MOTD saying "scapegoats" out like you guys can escape anything because your tmo is kinda shitty

stonez138
12-19-2013, 10:30 PM
no one in TMO knew except those two.

That's rich. Do you really believe that? You're a fool to think anyone else will.

cyryllis
12-19-2013, 10:33 PM
im sad i never received my millions, and ive been guilded for years =/

WTB my millions

(btw people didnt read the front page very carefully, they just banned all accounts that they even logged on even once- even a single log on over a year ago. So yeah people cheated and because of that any account they may have logged onto for any reason was banned. It doesnt mean they actually used the majority of those 86 accounts to any sort of cheating. Reading comprehension is not strong here)

knix
12-19-2013, 10:33 PM
FUCK THIS NOISE.


tease who you want to, I did nothing wrong, my guild leadership did nothing wrong.

FUCK this NOISE

cyryllis
12-19-2013, 10:35 PM
none of my characters are banned btw, and in addition I have reported several major game breaking exploits to the server admin/ devs over the years.


WOOO blanket accusations to make the sheeple happy

kbnexus
12-19-2013, 10:35 PM
Can we combine the 100 or so threads into 1? Pick one please! Consolidate this shit!

Vaildez
12-19-2013, 10:35 PM
FUCK THIS NOISE.


tease who you want to, I did nothing wrong, my guild leadership did nothing wrong.

FUCK this NOISE

Prove it. What we now know is exploiting and RMT'ing is going on inside of your guild. To act like only two people were involved in fucking ignorant.

Tenlaar
12-19-2013, 10:35 PM
I did nothing wrong

Except share your account information with an exploiter.

Pheer
12-19-2013, 10:37 PM
ITT: TMO members that think their reputations should be completely separate from the actions of their guild/guildmates

After years of your guildmates talking shit about how theyre the neckbeard overlords of the server while you snicker in the background quietly, youre never going to get anyone to believe youre all innocent in this.

kbnexus
12-19-2013, 10:38 PM
Sidenote: Since Doljon is TMO's alt guild are they also raid suspended?
Srs question.

justin2090
12-19-2013, 10:45 PM
All the accounts that the two individuals owned, are banned. so Yendor are you saying that two TMO players are able to dominate the server? cause that is what it sounds like.


two of my accounts are of the 86, my cleric, and my other cleric. no doubt used to rez the fallen on a raid after i had to leave. My whistle is clean but I cannot access my account. I am raid suspended because the officers didnt know what these two did in private. PRIVATE, no one in TMO knew except those two.

So those two players are the Jerry Sandusky's raping the server and the rest of tmo are the Joe Paterno's turning a blind eye. You didn't catch it cause you didn't want to catch it. Also, a member caught running a RMT ring? Guess you Joe Pa'd that too. Just look the other way while members of your guild ruin the server because ??? oh at least your getting raid loot. Didn't wanna jeopardize your "gearing of a 5th alt" eh?

I've never posted anything negative about TMO, FE, or IB. Just voicing an honest to god non-biased opinion on the matter. The entire guild needs to be deleted.

knix
12-19-2013, 11:06 PM
Because there's going to be a lot of misinformation and flat-out spin on both sides, I'm going to lay out the situation as it currently exists to the best of my ability. I do not speak for TMO with any authority, nor do I wish to do so. I am merely speaking as a member, and I hope that my posting history and general efforts have earned me the benefit of the doubt regarding what I have to say.

Froovy and Internode were two seasoned and well-respected members of the guild. Froovy was an extremely active player, and yes, he did have access to many, many accounts. Of these 86 accounts approximately 12 or so would be his. Another 15 would be trackers, porters, and various mules. This leaves 60ish accounts between the two of them to be hit. It stretches the imagination to consider that they'd have access to this many accounts between the two of them. However, Froovy was extremely well-liked and respected. If you knew him on a personal level you would know that he earned the trust of many guildmates, and that he frequently played their accounts and that others frequently played his.

For almost all of us this is incredibly disappointing. I will always value how kind and helpful Froovy always was for the guild, but these actions have hit all of us where we live. While I hate to see this happen, Froovy and Internode both deserved fully to have all of their accounts permanently banned. They broke the rules, and the GM staff should be commended for their response to these individuals. I understand, without condemning or condoning, why they banned all associated accounts. Duping cannot be tolerated, and it sends a loud message. It is unfortunate that so many people have suspended accounts when their only mistake was to trust another person. But the GMs want to send a warning about account sharing, and while I may not agree fully with these suspensions, I cannot fault them for taking heavy measures.

Additionally, another TMO member was recently caught running a large RMT operation. I will not name this member yet as I do not have permission to do so, however, this should come out within a short while. This person was not an officer, and what I find most disappointing is that we had already removed this person once. We let them back in with a second chance, and it burned us. While he is responsible for his own actions, we chose to allow him a second chance and the consequences of that decision are being borne by us. TMO is being held culpable for this individual because the leadership "should have known about it." I cannot comment on whether or not they should have or did know about it, but I can safely say that this individual did NOT have access to the overall guildbank. While some guild items have undoubtedly entered the RMT circuit, the bank as a whole has not been compromised and it is closely watched.

In short, we were burned by trusted people-people who should have known better and done better by those they call friend. For the average player of the server I can understand how they view these punishments as a very positive thing. It is perhaps a blank slate to reset the attitudes and views of the raid scene. While I don't enjoy eating a raid suspension, I think this could be an excellent opportunity to reevaluate how we treat each other. While I am pessimistic about the environment changing, I and a few others in TMO, view this as a chance to make the end game something a little bit more bearable in terms of how we treat each other. Fierce competition need not be full of hate. I know that many are here are squealing with excitement at the prospect of "fuck TMO" becoming a reality, and I don't blame many. We do lock down a lot of stuff, and many of our members do behave poorly in public settings. However, I would point out that respect is a two way street. If your goal is to change how we treat each other I submit that we are better served by speaking neutrally if not coordially.

We've all seen where "prove it" and "u mad" get you. Do we really want to go right back to where we just left? I, for one, do not. /agree

radditsu
12-19-2013, 11:08 PM
Poor Knix (stolen from that other dude)

justin2090
12-19-2013, 11:12 PM
Personally, I find it hard to believe that TMO leadership was not aware or suspicious of this happening, however we are only able to take action on the information we have.


/agree

radditsu
12-19-2013, 11:28 PM
So...did their guild bank toons get banned too?

I want to know how much money they lost from this!

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 11:29 PM
bout 50 mil

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 11:30 PM
gonna be a bad christmas for fathers and moms in tmo, no rmt loots to sell

Itap
12-19-2013, 11:34 PM
Gaffin you look like a fookin saint right now, pras

Gaffin 3.0
12-19-2013, 11:35 PM
thx dawg bout to sleep gonna miss alot of forumquest but gotta work in the mornin

khanable
12-19-2013, 11:44 PM
FUCK THIS NOISE.


tease who you want to, I did nothing wrong, my guild leadership did nothing wrong.

FUCK this NOISE


Keep trying to white knight, exploiting scum.

Keep trying to white knight, exploiting scum.

Keep trying to white knight, exploiting scum.

Keep trying to white knight, exploiting scum.

kylok
12-19-2013, 11:55 PM
Cucumbers on a rampage, I like it.

khanable
12-19-2013, 11:56 PM
quadposting for 900 truth

Ungriim
12-20-2013, 12:06 AM
....come back in 2 weeks to continue to steal all your loot for 4th alts.

Oh and I only have 1 character, who has been pretty much BiS for a long time.

none of my characterS are banned btw...

TMO scum can't even keep his own lies straight! Stop it sir, you're making it hard to keep track.

cyryllis
12-20-2013, 12:17 AM
sorry, yeah i dont count non raid character alts who are in their 30s

heazels
12-20-2013, 01:21 AM
All the accounts that the two individuals owned, are banned. so Yendor are you saying that two TMO players are able to dominate the server? cause that is what it sounds like.


two of my accounts are of the 86, my cleric, and my other cleric. no doubt used to rez the fallen on a raid after i had to leave. My whistle is clean but I cannot access my account. I am raid suspended because the officers didnt know what these two did in private. PRIVATE, no one in TMO knew except those two.

my clerics and my other cleric. lol. Yep, ebayed account. Nobody makes 2 clerics.

knix
12-20-2013, 01:27 AM
my clerics and my other cleric. lol. Yep, ebayed account. Nobody makes 2 clerics.

actually my cleric that is 52 is male, I tried to play him but, it was too weird and awkward. I like playing a cleric, that c-heal landing when tank is <10percent is delightful.

so, yeah, i have a new female high elf cleric.

Barkingturtle
12-20-2013, 01:33 AM
Quit sharing your fucking accounts.

heazels
12-20-2013, 01:34 AM
How much DKP did the characters cost once they were bought with the exploit?

Forza
12-20-2013, 01:36 AM
FUCK THIS NOISE.


tease who you want to, I did nothing wrong, my guild leadership did nothing wrong.

FUCK this NOISE

hahah this guy

knix
12-20-2013, 01:58 AM
hahah this guy
ha ha ha this girl doesnt have a clue

Skywarp
12-20-2013, 03:52 AM
The federal government made the RICO ACT because of crimes like this. If your part of an organization that conducts illicit behavior, you can all be tried regardless of your level of involvement

heazels
12-20-2013, 03:54 AM
The federal government made the RICO ACT because of crimes like this. If your part of an organization that conducts illicit behavior, you can all be tried regardless of your level of involvement

we found our nsa sleeper agent

BigLe2e
12-20-2013, 03:55 AM
Wheres the post from one of the GMs after ecc's account was banned and unbanned for being flagged for MQ before he owned it? You know, the one that says sharing account information makes you responsible for anything that person may or may not do with your account? I'm sure you can recollect something from it, like how Alitardi owes someone 200k.

Langrisserx
12-20-2013, 04:21 AM
hurr derrrr a couple people in guild with access to a large number accounts means everyone is hacking and duping omzorz they stolz my megahurtz too


fucking retards.

most of us are pissed that we had members doing this shit, and we'd like to move on past the bullshit and keep on trucking as a guild. We are an easy target to get mad at, and sadly we had some people who were complete idiots who now drag our name deeper into the mud. Whatever, we will brush our shoulders off and come back in 2 weeks to continue to steal all your loot for 4th alts.

bitches


either they too dumb to know whats going on or they in on it, EITHER WAY THEY'RE OUT

Byrjun
12-20-2013, 04:33 AM
most of us are pissed that we had members doing this shit, and we'd like to move on past the bullshit and keep on trucking as a guild. We are an easy target to get mad at, and sadly we had some people who were complete idiots who now drag our name deeper into the mud.

It doesn't help when TMO leadership / officers are going around making inflammatory posts accusing Rogean & staff of personally persecuting TMO (along with all the toxic bullshit comments like "enjoy killing Tranix for 2 weeks").

Really shameful shit.

JerSar
12-20-2013, 05:37 AM
A TL;DR without the TL:

Banned by association. Sucks, don't give out your information. Can't prove that only 2 people knew about it, for obvious reasons - don't say things like that. Leadership didn't know - maybe, are you leadership?

Top guild? Cool - grats. Lots of attention, bad attention now. All TMO members saying "I didn't know", maybe you didn't, but you're sure as shit not sharing your information after it's been deemed that you took no part and have your accounts back, are you?

There's only two ways to solve this in regards to coming back.

EVERYONE JOIN TMO -or- EVERYONE LEAVE TMO -or- (third surprise way!) EVERYONE GET ALL POLITICAL AND MAKE A ROTATION/COMPROMISE.

Armada
12-20-2013, 06:44 AM
Gloat for years about how you all hold a monopoly. Drive people away from even trying to join in on the server because they know they will never have a chance. Be general greedy people that cockblock everyone in the name that it was done to them. TMO makes people hate the server. You can defend all you want, but your guild has driven away players for too long. The sad part is, you WANT that, because then there are less people to contend with.

You had the chance to be civil and realize that you could have given other people a raid mob. Greed is what makes empires............but it is a double edged sword, and is also what brings its demise.

Cochonou
12-20-2013, 06:52 AM
If you are in TMO and you have any you will /guildremove. If you're not in TMO and you have any you will boycott/blackball the scum of the server.

Prismaticshop
12-20-2013, 07:26 AM
It's nice to see FE/IB , divnity and BDA work together.

Honestly, if we want velious it's the only way this can be, I surely hope FEIBDIVBDA can work together and show the GMs a raiding scene without petition every spawn is possible, it's the only way we will see velious one day, Rogean's message on front page shows it.

They must be THIS close to pulling the plug, and we will be the ones butthurt, not them.

Let's cut with the bullshit, let's have "gentleman" behaviour again on the raiding scene.

It seems the only way this can happen is cutting TMO out of the equation or so it seems the staff seem to say. I guess mass items duping to mass RMT was the line not to cross TMO.

If you have any honor, guild remove yourself now.

Tibador
12-20-2013, 09:16 AM
ITT: TMO members that think their reputations should be completely separate from the actions of their guild/guildmates

After years of your guildmates talking shit about how theyre the neckbeard overlords of the server while you snicker in the background quietly, youre never going to get anyone to believe youre all innocent in this.


Hmm lets see pheer you were guilded with Hasbinfag, Tiki(MQ USER), and several others so you have no room to talk their reputations are yours aswell.

Have a good day.

Pheer
12-20-2013, 09:47 AM
Hmm lets see pheer you were guilded with Hasbinfag, Tiki(MQ USER), and several others so you have no room to talk their reputations are yours aswell.

Have a good day.

Are you really talking to me right now? Where should I even start on you?

Lets see:

-Your guild killing Vox with 8 people in early classic by exploiting the Z-axis to avoid AEs
-Your guild exploit pulling Phinny through the floor to bypass the seahorses
-Your guild posting on their private forums to stop talking about their MQ and SEQ usage on vent in front of the apps
-Tantalar in your guild (who happened to also be a GM at the time) exploiting the tumpy tonics quest to level to 50 in a matter of hours

Reiker000
12-20-2013, 09:47 AM
Don't forget Tibador, the guy who abused his GM account daily in a failed attempt to make his 3rd rate guild succeed.

nyde
12-20-2013, 10:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAA1xgTTw9w. All I hear is I can't get targets without TMO being raid banned. Its sad really....

Tibador
12-20-2013, 04:18 PM
Are you really talking to me right now? Where should I even start on you?

Lets see:

-Your guild killing Vox with 8 people in early classic by exploiting the Z-axis to avoid AEs
-Your guild exploit pulling Phinny through the floor to bypass the seahorses
-Your guild posting on their private forums to stop talking about their MQ and SEQ usage on vent in front of the apps
-Tantalar in your guild (who happened to also be a GM at the time) exploiting the tumpy tonics quest to level to 50 in a matter of hours

Only one of those are true the others are extremely RNF mud slinging bullshit,

You know dam well early on the AE's were bugged and would not go off the same shit happened to you guys so give that shit a rest.

Yes we did pull phinny through the floor as that was an early tactic in classic so like it or not we never got in trouble for that shit so again this was the only real truth in your list.

Ofcourse we told our members to knock that shit off as it did not pertain to p99 they played on other servers like EZ-PEQ and did not belong in the p99 forums.

Yes Tantalar did use tumpy exploit but that was not 50 in a couple hours hell he was not even 50 before like 1/4 of the server was lol and he was removed as a Guide but we both know he had biggier issues then just that he hated you guys with a passion and that was his downfall I guess maybe that's why I liked him.

And as for Tiki worst macroquest user around I never used my GM account in any way that would have benefited my guild Unlike your Guild leader which is why I stepped down as a GM cause of the bullshit that he was allowed to get away with.

You guys have a very short memory IB use to have anything to win mentality, cheat, lie, forum bash etc it did not matter so long as you got your pixels so before you continue to be the douches I know you are and stoke that fire, just think that was you guys.

Good talking with you again haha.

Skywarp
12-20-2013, 11:43 PM
NSA my ass. Its not my fault I got a criminal justice degree. It WA my God dam mission.

Skywarp
12-20-2013, 11:46 PM
"Was"