/rant Why only one person logged in per IP?

[Drzombies]

What if I have friends over that don't live with me but want to lan. Will I have to write a petition and then wait several days so it won't even matter any more because people don't come equipped with that sort of attention span nowadays.. What is the real utility of this rule? Is this really stopping multi boxing? Or is this just stopping groups from playing together? Is multi boxing really even that big of a problem? Couldn't you just stop multiboxing by encouraging a thoughtful community that enjoys grouping and dislikes when people run around with a cleric following them everywhere.

This is really inconvenient and it makes my butthole itchy and sore. The petition times on here are worse then pretty much any other community I've been a part of. /rant

I know I'm not accomplishing anything other then proving my impatience by writing this but I'm sure if you had any rl friends you'd understand.

[Shannacore]

Lol

[Bones]

The petition times on here are worse then pretty much any other community I've been a part of. /rant
Yeah bro, you should totally cancel your subscription and stick it to the man.

[Allizia]

Who lan's Everquest? really? I go to great lengths to ensure no one I know ever found out about my dark nerdy secret

It's an online game, they can lan it up from their own house and leave my GDed Cheetos alone

[Detnogetsovs]

Who lan's Everquest? really? I go to great lengths to ensure no one I know ever found out about my dark nerdy secret

It's an online game, they can lan it up from their own house and leave my GDed Cheetos alone

Like most higher primates, humans are social by nature.

I know this doesn't count for 98% of the people playing p99, but still...

Like most lower primates, p99's are social by poopsocking virtual loot.

[Drzombies]

Of course I still am going to play and openly profess to loving this server. That's why I said it's a rant.. a meaningless one

[Bubbles]

Yeah bro, you should totally cancel your subscription and stick it to the man.

<applause>

[Jael]

I was actually discussing this with some RL friend's over the weekend at a birthday party. Birthday Boy asked if we brought our computers so we could LAN EQ. He was joking, but we then got into this whole discussion. I know this is R&F, but Im very interested in this as having a *cough*teenager**coughomgIamoldcough* who would like to play when the Spousal Unit and I already play, it'd be nice to know.

[Drzombies]

I was actually discussing this with some RL friend's over the weekend at a birthday party. Birthday Boy asked if we brought our computers so we could LAN EQ. He was joking, but we then got into this whole discussion. I know this is R&F, but Im very interested in this as having a *cough*teenager**coughomgIamoldcough* who would like to play when the Spousal Unit and I already play, it'd be nice to know.

Now if you guys don't usually play from that IP it'd be impossible to have 2 or 3 of you to connect from it. Unless you filled out a petition, and by the time that happened your birthday party would have been days ago. No immediate gratification :(

Which sucks massively in a very serious way.

[azeth]

you gotta understand Drzombie, the floodgates would open if you allowed IP Exemptions to everyone. Boxing is fine on live because SoE gets your $(2), but here it really digs into the community because suddenly 1 person can handle an entire "contested" camp (Lguk stuff, Solb) by themselves.

It's extremely frowned on here. Kash and I have definitely been petitioned about because we've even been checked up on and thankfully "okay-ed" but the fact that a GM went out of his way to prevent a multi box scenario should cleanly demonstrate the attitude toward it on P99.

If you're a troll however, you got me. :mad:

[Straif]

Apply for IP exemption.

They'll get around to it when they get around to it.

If that doesn't work for you, just cry:
http://ladiesdotdotdot.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dawson-crying.jpg

[Nedala]

I used to play eq2 with a few friend via lan all the time, and it was WAY more fun than just sitting at home playing eq2.

OPs post sucks anyway...sorry :P

[Taxi]

The flaw in this rule is of course anyone with 2 rigs and a router can say "Hey, my wife wants to play" and the only people at a disadvantage are people like me who are honest.

[MeldrathRN]

The flaw in this rule is of course anyone with 2 rigs and a router can say "Hey, my wife wants to play" and the only people at a disadvantage are people like me who are honest.

yeah, feels bad man. My roommate and I have applied for an ip exemption about 2 weeks ago, and so far we're still not able to play together. So of course I outpace him in leveling and now we can't group anyway. :p

[Overcast]

yeah, feels bad man. My roommate and I have applied for an ip exemption about 2 weeks ago, and so far we're still not able to play together. So of course I outpace him in leveling and now we can't group anyway. :p

Take turns playing some... :)

[MeldrathRN]

Take turns playing some... :)

I work from home while he has to go to an office, so naturally I get more play time, cause by work I meant "play EQ".

[mmiles8]

The flaw in this rule is of course anyone with 2 rigs and a router can say "Hey, my wife wants to play" and the only people at a disadvantage are people like me who are honest.

And it only takes until someone sees them running around with one invis /afk and /follow while the other xps, or one of them staring off onto space while the other runs away from pulling aggro, or any other indication that the two characters never move at the same time.

Two boxing is way more obvious than you think folks.

[Dantes]

I think there's plenty of 2-boxers on this server. There's no way you prove you need an IP exemption. Anybody can come up with a bullshit story that their spouse wants to play the game.

[azeth]

Just make sure you petition people when you suspect them, while the GMs will be responsible for handling the issue, the community just needs to bring it their attention.

I'm positive the response time is quick also. I had a lvl 1 SK named Uncledread /tell me that he "knew i was 2 boxing" with Kashi. No more than 2 hours later Cyrius arrived and /summoned Kashi. He mentioned he was checking up on us, and had been watching for a while without us knowing. It was a brief chat, he just explained they check up on people with IP Exemptions and sent us on our way.

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[Goobles]

Like most higher primates, humans are social by nature.

I know this doesn't count for 98% of the people playing p99, but still...

Like most lower primates, p99's are social by poopsocking virtual loot.

We are all social. There are like 800 people playing this game dude, and they're ALMOST all individual people!

[fastboy21]

the problem with allowing boxing is simple.

back on live during classic it wasn't a big issue:
1. you have to pay for live accounts.
2. computers in 1999 actually were stressed to run the resources needed for eq.
3. internet connections were limited, most people were on dial up in 1999.

the result is that few people ran multiple accounts. if they did, they usually ran them on multiple individual computers (hence the term boxing). yes, it happened but it was hardly usual to meet someone who was 5 boxing (yes, we all know someone who did...but it wasn't what the average person was doing by far).

on p1999:
1. accounts are free.
2. most computers today can EASILY run several instances of EQ.
3. most people have high speed internet.

the result would be that almost everybody would, in some form, be running more than a single toon at once. personally, I have a 48 inch monitor and could EASILY run 6 instances of EQ on my machine. I can tile them all up so that its easy to switch.

With new games that put push new technology to the limit gamers are restricted...but running classic EQ will only get easier and easier.

With macro software and programmable gamepads, etc. it is even easier to run the toons.

Would we really want a world were the average person is running a 3 or 4 or more toons? Yes, this is a loss because I used to enjoy running two toons, but the benefit we gain from the restriction outweighs the cost.

[jeffd]

the benefit of preventing the dozens/hundreds of boxed bots that would be online every day outweighs a handful of dudes not being able to lan every now and then.

[Drzombies]

the benefit of preventing the dozens/hundreds of boxed bots that would be online every day outweighs a handful of dudes not being able to lan every now and then.

You mean if that there are hundreds of people on this server that would break the rules if the ip block wasn't in place? or do you mean that the admins or the community wouldn't notice and would turn a blind eye?

I know if I'm working slave labor to gain my levels and i see someone cheating by multiboxing and permanently having a group i'm gonna be like FUUuuuuuck you and report them

[Bones]

You mean if that there are hundreds of people on this server that would break the rules if the ip block wasn't in place? or do you mean that the admins or the community wouldn't notice and would turn a blind eye?
What he means is this; If you think removing the ip block and simply telling people not to box is going to keep people from boxing, you are helplessly delusional.
Hell, even with the ip block there are people boxing.

[eqdruid76]

I can't stand to be in the same room with other people that play Everquest for more than 10 minutes. I don't know how you guys could even fathom the thought.

You're much better off associating your online friends with their avatars than their real-life countenance. That's why no one ever shows up at Hairlip Steve's LAN parties...

[mmiles8]

It's less of an administrative nightmare to make folks apply for exemptions, and bring down a permanent ban-hammer on those who abuse it, than to freely allow it and chase down every report of two-boxing.

If you want an IP exemption, request one. Sometimes rules that don't personally make sense to you, are in place to serve a greater purpose, such as making life easier on a small staff.

[Taxi]

And it only takes until someone sees them running around with one invis /afk and /follow while the other xps, or one of them staring off onto space while the other runs away from pulling aggro, or any other indication that the two characters never move at the same time.

Two boxing is way more obvious than you think folks.

But what does that prove? Nothing. "She" could be watching TV and coming to play once in a while, i cant see that being against the rules, so theres no real way to prove someone is dual boxing. Shit, i could get my bro to move another toon around once in a while and he doesnt play PC games.