Heres your proof Sloan

[xmonkx]

http://oi43.tinypic.com/2079b3n.jpg

Some say, that a level 60 shaman with no interference, copped an AE fear, and was killed by mobs not involved in the fight, and which also did not aggro or interfere with the fight what so ever.

Some also say that Sericx is refusing to pay, due to this random death of an onlooker from outside the boundaries of engagement, that had no change in the end result of the fight.

<The Mystical Order> - Definitely not Lannisters. Good at killing dragons though.


Copped a fear from the only thing I can kill Xerxes with near 1st bridge. Yah thats not interference. I'm not paying shit.

[xmonkx]

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2ztjz7q.jpg

Excuse me wrong SS.

[Tanthallas]

That happened 30minutes before Xerxes killed you champ.

Necrious and I agreed to move to the zone in after that because being observers near you was impossible.

If you thought this was a DQ and it was over, there is no reason whatsoever you should have fought on. Sorry man, this is just too sad for me to RnF over - not only are you a bad monk, but quite dishonorable as well.

[xmonkx]

Sorry man, this is just too sad for me to RnF over.

Pretty sure you just contradicted yourself there bud.

[kotton05]

xerxes 1 - sericx 0

[Hasbinbad]

its 2013. almost 2014. why does nobody load fraps?

all parties are suspicious because they are all obviously hiding something.

[xmonkx]

Sloan states he has fraps of it but said it cut out conveniently. If the fraps showed no foul then I would pay as I stated. But he died off the only wurm I could use to kill Xerxes with.

[Alarti0001]

xerxes 1 - sericx 0

Xerxes 1 - Sericx 1 FE not KOS -1

Kill VP dragons

[Alarti0001]

Pretty much you both have micropenii

[susvain0362]

Sloan states he has fraps of it but said it cut out conveniently. If the fraps showed no foul then I would pay as I stated. But he died off the only wurm I could use to kill Xerxes with.

LOL! cut out. thats fucking awesome. who else fins this fucking hilarious. lol to actually go ahead and say that, too much. too god damn much lol

[Ektar]

first

[Daldolma]

at what level of obesity does this thread start to be interesting

[Motec]

Why didnt you stop the fight 30 mins earlier, or use any of those 29mins and 59 seconds the mob was reset and doing its thing with no interference to kill him?

Sounds like sore loser. :)

[Stinkum]

at what level of obesity does this thread start to be interesting

haha

[Tanthallas]

Yeah - I recently got back and DLed the trial version a few days ago with intent to upgrade it...luckily this happened on something like and not on an actual raid (=

[Tanthallas]

*like this

[Godefroi]

lol sericx...

[Zeelot]

This is how it's done:

http://i.imgur.com/A8v9snM.jpg

[Godefroi]

even when losing you can't take it like a man and go damage control in RnF lol

micro penis suits you just fine

[Ella`Ella]

If your e-penis was really that big, you'd tip out the 100k just because you can.

Clearly not obese enough... or too obese?

[Estolcles]

If your e-penis was really that big, you'd tip out the 100k just because you can.

Clearly not obese enough... or too obese?

Not obese enough... at least not until he can figure out how to get around RMT'ing, and trade platz for pizzas.

[runlvlzero]

http://i.imgur.com/nL6FJNt.jpg

[Autotune]

I did this before it was cool.

[Verenity]

Xerxes doin' God's work

[xmonkx]

If you thought this was a DQ and it was over, there is no reason whatsoever you should have fought on.

Because you refused to pay me when I said it was over?

[xmonkx]

And lets not spew that "We were observers bullshit". I'll post the screenshot if you'd like were I told you to stay at zone in to not DQ, But you disregarded that warning. And if you want to talk honor, you should have paid me right after DQ. Instead you pissed and moaned , so why should I pay someone that didn't honor his agreement? An honorable man would have chalked up his mistake and that would have been that. Honor my ass right, Sloan?

[Godefroi]

So to resume :

1) Xerxes tricks dumb Sericx between AE wurm and Hoshkar, sericx is fucked and q's

-trakanon pops-

2) Xerxes and sericx are alone in VP. Xerxes murders Sericx.

3) Sericx refuses to pay and cries in RnF.

Yw

[Hailto]

These threads make me so glad im not at this level of immersion in this game anymore.

[xmonkx]

So to resume :

1) Xerxes tricks dumb Sericx between AE wurm and Hoshkar, sericx is fucked and q's

-trakanon pops-

2) Xerxes and sericx are alone in VP. Xerxes murders Sericx.

3) Sericx refuses to pay and cries in RnF.

Yw

Because you were there? O wait, I havnt seen you in VP in bout a year. Guess that white flag is getting to heavy.

[Servellious]

There can be only one

[SyanideGas]

o7 Xerxes

[Jarnauga]

White robes white knighting the evil bluebie robes

[Motec]

Because you were there? O wait, I havnt seen you in VP in bout a year. Guess that white flag is getting to heavy.

To be fair, i've never once played a monk in VP and nearly killed you when i was on szeth, then you murdered my face into oblivion twice. And I logged off in shame :p

[Godefroi]

To make this thread less bad and comfort Sericx, more french girls :

http://framboisemood.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/214.jpg

[Cecily]

Oh god I missed this stuff. Remember that old 100k bet over if TMO got the loot from that one Fay? TMO actually did end up getting that Dragon Hero Bracer.

[Alarti0001]

Oh god I missed this stuff. Remember that old 100k bet over if TMO got the loot from that one Fay? TMO actually did end up getting that Dragon Hero Bracer.

Mavtank and some enchanter whose name I cant remember both owe me 100k :(

[Alarti0001]

Because you refused to pay me when I said it was over?

Basically, Sloan doesn't pay his debts. Common theme in FE

[Godefroi]

Derpflection of mister #foreveralone, Sericx got killed and has to pay, no one else was in zone, what do you want to say against that ? Interference with whom ? ***** please, even sericx himself ain't contesting it lol

[Ele]

no interference from either guilds, to break this rule is instant DQ and either person will lose their money

Did you call the fight as soon as this happened or continue to train war?

[Signal]

Did you call the fight as soon as this happened or continue to train war?

Pretty obvious it wasn't a problem with the contest. Reading through the thread the fight kept going awhile with no complaints till it was over and he had lost. Sericx clearly got his butt handed to him fairly and then came here to spin it. Guess having a gear advantage and experience in VP still doesn't help out obviously bad monks.

[Raavak]

Rematch

[Swifty]

Rematch

YES! or even better, FE/IB/FC brings a raid force next time a Dragon spawns.

[Alarti0001]

Pretty obvious it wasn't a problem with the contest. Reading through the thread the fight kept going awhile with no complaints till it was over and he had lost. Sericx clearly got his butt handed to him fairly and then came here to spin it. Guess having a gear advantage and experience in VP still doesn't help out obviously bad monks.

Gear advantage is easily offset by not being KoS. Its pretty obvious you are clueless ;)

Sloan lost and didnt pay so sericx kept training after. Unless a second bet was agreed upon and then they both owe each other 100k so its moot.

[Alarti0001]

YES! or even better, FE/IB/FC brings a raid force next time a Dragon spawns.

They have been promising that for a year now..... still waiting.

[Daldolma]

continuing to train war after the alleged interference serves as implied assent that there was no interference sufficient to disqualify the event

contract still valid, enforceable

sericx liable for damages in the amount of 100k plus interest

[Alarti0001]

continuing to train war after the alleged interference serves as implied assent that there was no interference sufficient to disqualify the event

contract still valid, enforceable

sericx liable for damages in the amount of 100k plus interest

No... it doesn't lol.

[Daldolma]

No... it doesn't lol.

you are incorrect. see: american jurisprudence

alarti still dumb

[Ele]

No... it doesn't lol.

A waiver can be made by words or by conduct. A party who waives a breach of contract gives up the right to damages or remedies regarding such breach, and cannot use the breach as an excuse to keep from performing the contract.

[cs616]

Isn't this the 2nd or 3rd time a member of TMO has issued some sort of challenge and then weaseled their way out of payment on technicalities after losing?

[Daldolma]

A waiver can be made by words or by conduct. A party who waives a breach of contract gives up the right to damages or remedies regarding such breach, and cannot use the breach as an excuse to keep from performing the contract.

^

let this be a lesson to all future rule lawyers to pay attention during contracts

the p99 bar is no joke

[Alarti0001]

A waiver can be made by words or by conduct. A party who waives a breach of contract gives up the right to damages or remedies regarding such breach, and cannot use the breach as an excuse to keep from performing the contract.

Find the waiver. Training is not proof of a waiver in VP... since training happens there daily.

[Godefroi]

Itt : alarti gets slapped by his own guild.

Amazing lol.

[Alarti0001]

Itt : alarti gets slapped by his own guild.

Amazing lol.

ITT: Visceral still too idiotic to understand that no waiver was made.

No one is surprised

[Ele]

Find the waiver. Training is not proof of a waiver in VP... since training happens there daily.

Sericx announced his bet "100k 1v1 train wars Me vs. Xerxes (Sloan)".

Sericx made a specific provision to the bet (contract) which read:

no interference from either guilds, to break this rule is instant DQ and either person will lose their money

and was agreed upon by the both parties.

Instead of calling the interference (breach) when it happened and terminating the PVP combat and bet immediately, another 30 minutes of back and forth training (or "PVP" as Sericx likes to call it) continued. The 30 minutes of PVP/training conduct and participation with no statement from Sericx announcing the breach amounts to a waiver of said breach.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between PVP and training in VP at this point?

[Ele]

Add the fact that the alleged breach was only raised after Sericx was killed.

[Alarti0001]

Sericx announced his bet "100k 1v1 train wars Me vs. Xerxes (Sloan)".

Sericx made a specific provision to the bet (contract) which read:



and was agreed upon by the both parties.

Instead of calling the interference (breach) when it happened and terminating the PVP combat and bet immediately, another 30 minutes of back and forth training (or "PVP" as Sericx likes to call it) continued. The 30 minutes of PVP/training conduct and participation with no statement from Sericx announcing the breach amounts to a waiver of said breach.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between PVP and training in VP at this point?

You are really good at putting down laws... really bad at applying them.

There was a train war... for 1st kill which has rules for disqualification, which was also mentioned prior to the disqualification.

There wasn't an agreement of best out of 3. Any training after the first Disqual or death is moot. The bet was already ended unless you can find an agreement of best 2 out of 3 or sericx saying he relinquishes rights to his winnings.

[mishurza]

From my understanding, there was a clause that said as soon as someone besides the combatants enter the arena, if that person is an associate of one the combatants that combatant will be disqualified instantly and shall forfeit his bet. Anything that happened after that is just a regular day in VP.

If either of you were seriously gonna pay, you would have put the money in escrow with a guide and let them enforce the rules you agreed upon and arbitrate whether a waiver of the DQ clause had been given.

[doraf]

This thread is poop.

http://cdn0.lostateminor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Dog-poop-1000px-990x500.jpg

[Daldolma]

there was no disqualification. sericx continued to perform the terms of the contract with no reference to disqualification, effectively waiving any cause of action he might have had regarding breach. upon losing, he raised the issue of disqualification which had been immaterial for 30 minutes. this counterclaim fails 10 times out of 10.

if anything, the fact that he raised this issue after his death provides further evidence that he knew sloan still believed the competition to be in effect. his failure to attempt to collect his winnings after the supposed disqualification occurred further undermines his position

[Godefroi]

the fact is Sloan murdered Sericx in 1v.1 , thats the only interesting part in this, the rest is just a pasty nerdy n a fat asiat raging and spinning :D

[Frieza_Prexus]

Find the waiver.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?rd=1&word=ratification

[Ele]

You are really good at putting down laws... really bad at applying them.

There was a train war... for 1st kill which has rules for disqualification, which was also mentioned prior to the disqualification.

There wasn't an agreement of best out of 3. Any training after the first Disqual or death is moot. The bet was already ended unless you can find an agreement of best 2 out of 3 or sericx saying he relinquishes rights to his winnings.

Please show me where Sericx immediately terminated the bet and demanded his winnings for the "breach" as soon as it happened.

The ball is in your court to show that proper notice of breach was given, which would negate the waiver argument. No such evidence or statement has been presented so far, which is why I am arguing that waiver of the alleged breach occurred.


Sericx didn't even deny that he continued to fight on for 30 minutes after what he now claims was the alleged breach.

That happened 30minutes before Xerxes killed you champ.

Necrious and I agreed to move to the zone in after that because being observers near you was impossible.

If you thought this was a DQ and it was over, there is no reason whatsoever you should have fought on. Sorry man, this is just too sad for me to RnF over - not only are you a bad monk, but quite dishonorable as well.

[Funkutron5000]

the fact is Sloan murdered Sericx in 1v.1 , thats the only interesting part in this, the rest is just a pasty nerdy n a fat asiat raging and spinning :D

Stops spreading lies, Visceral. Always trying to spin, spin, spin. It was Xerxes that did the murdering of Sericx, not Sloan!

[Godefroi]

the last part of the sentence is still true though ^^

[kotton05]

hi real fisch!!!

[Alarti0001]

there was no disqualification. sericx continued to perform the terms of the contract with no reference to disqualification, effectively waiving any cause of action he might have had regarding breach. upon losing, he raised the issue of disqualification which had been immaterial for 30 minutes. this counterclaim fails 10 times out of 10.

if anything, the fact that he raised this issue after his death provides further evidence that he knew sloan still believed the competition to be in effect. his failure to attempt to collect his winnings after the supposed disqualification occurred further undermines his position

Where was the time limit stated for raising an issue? Bad lawyer is bad.

A competition in VP is always in affect the competition for money would be known to be over upon initial death or disqualifcation.

Anecdotes are fun tho!

[kotton05]

also ele's last post 100% right

[Alarti0001]

Please show me where Sericx immediately terminated the bet and demanded his winnings for the "breach" as soon as it happened.

The ball is in your court to show that proper notice of breach was given, which would negate the waiver argument. No such evidence or statement has been presented so far, which is why I am arguing that waiver of the alleged breach occurred.


Sericx didn't even deny that he continued to fight on for 30 minutes after what he now claims was the alleged breach.

When a watcher aggord sericx fear warm which allowed xerxes to kill sericx that was the breach and it was shown. Notice was given before the competition.

[Daldolma]

sigh.

there is no helping alarti, he is unrepentantly stupid

[Alarti0001]

sigh.

there is no helping alarti, he is unrepentantly stupid

Yet another logical fallacy. Seems you share a common fault with a few others here.

[Alarti0001]

Please show me where Sericx immediately terminated the bet and demanded his winnings for the "breach" as soon as it happened.



Please show me where this contract states that Sericx has to immediately terminate a bet?

Ball.. court... go

[Daldolma]

Please show me where this contract states that Sericx has to immediately terminate a bet?

Ball.. court... go

contracts don't need to explicitly state that they will operate under the law of contracts. if they so desire, they need to stipulate out of existing contract law

that is why you have contract law

[Yibz]

You fuckers could teach a master's class on renigging 100k bets.

[Alarti0001]

contracts don't need to explicitly state that they will operate under the law of contracts. if they so desire, they need to stipulate out of existing contract law

that is why you have contract law

Whose contract law?

[Ele]

Where was the time limit stated for raising an issue?

Please show me where this contract states that Sericx has to immediately terminate a bet?

Ball.. court... go

There doesn't have to be a time limit for waiver. It is an issue for the finder of fact to determine. The question is whether 30 minutes of continued PVP/training without Sericx announcing the breach before he died without killing the other person constitutes waiver. I would argue that it is a case of waiver. Sericx hasn't denied that he continued to fight without terminating the bet. Sericx had the opportunity to immediately end the PVP and collect any alleged winnings, then continue unrelated train activities for his pleasure. However, he did none of those things. Only once he died did he make a claim of winning by the other side being disqualified for something that occurred 30 minutes earlier.

Bad lawyer is bad.

No need to bring ad hominem into this. As you said yourself:

Yet another logical fallacy. Seems you share a common fault with a few others here.


A competition in VP is always in affect (sic) the competition for money would be known to be over upon initial death or disqualifcation.

You are now injecting assumptions. Is it your position that the bet ended as soon as the fear wurm was set off by someone other than Sericx/Xerses, and that all PVP/training that went on for the next 30 minutes was just normal VP activities?

Anecdotes are fun tho!


You can argue against waiver all day long, but most of know the reason you are taking the position that you are.

[Ele]

accidentally an "us" in that last sentence

[Yibz]

http://i.imgur.com/N78fCLJ.jpg

[Ele]

Whose contract law?

The Common Law of Norrathian Persons of the Fourth Age

[Alarti0001]

You are now injecting assumptions. Is it your position that the bet ended as soon as the fear wurm was set off by someone other than Sericx/Xerses, and that all PVP/training that went on for the next 30 minutes was just normal VP activities?


You can argue against waiver all day long, but most of know the reason you are taking the position that you are.


These 2 statements right next to each other are kind of laughable, contradictory and logical fallacy.

I'd hope you could do better.

As to your first statement in the quote... Yes that is the position because that is what the contract states. There wasn't any notice of continuing after first death or Disqualification.

[Alarti0001]

Ahh quote got left out but it was in reference to my position

[Alarti0001]

The Common Law of Norrathian Persons of the Fourth Age

Case closed.

[Ele]

Case closed.

Don't claim something as solved unless it is.

[Alarti0001]

DERP

That was sarcasm... sorry if it went over your head. ;)

[Ele]

That was sarcasm... sorry if it went over your head. ;)

That was sarcasm... sorry if it went over your head. ;)

[Alarti0001]

That was sarcasm... sorry if it went over your head. ;)



My last was sarcasm sorry that went over your head too.

[Ele]

My last was sarcasm sorry that went over your head too.

My last was sarcasm sorry that went over your head too.

[Alarti0001]

this quote is empty... like your argument..... blammo!

[Alarti0001]

I do this when I realize my argument doesn't stand on solid ground.

[Ele]

These 2 statements right next to each other are kind of laughable, contradictory and logical fallacy.

I'd hope you could do better.

As to your first statement in the quote... Yes that is the position because that is what the contract states. There wasn't any notice of continuing after first death or Disqualification.

We will have to agree to disagree and let the jury of RNF cast judgment upon Sericx.

WTB mod to add a poll: Who should receive the 100k winning? A. Sericx B. Xerxes/Sloan.

[Ele]

stop making so many individual posts Alarti, it is tedious to have to click on every single one to see if you responded to me.

[Alarti0001]

We will have to agree to disagree and let the jury of RNF cast judgment upon Sericx.

WTB mod to add a poll: Who should receive the 100k winning? A. Sericx B. Xerxes/Sloan.

You have no say.. only the contract has say. 2 people involved and 1 contract.
Popular consensus matters not.

[Ele]

You have no say.. only the contract has say. 2 people involved and 1 contract.

Why are you arguing over this then, would the same not apply to you as well?

Please read up on how defenses to an allegation of breach of contract work.

Popular consensus matters not.

If you say so.

[Alarti0001]

Why are you arguing over this then, would the same not apply to you as well?

Please read up on how defenses to an allegation of breach of contract work.



If you say so.

I'm arguing against false claims! Like usual.

[Stinkum]

It's pretty sad that Alarti is still trying to get "last word" in, even when he's been clearly proven to be a bumbling retard.

Kinda reminds me of Harrison.

[Alarti0001]

It's pretty sad that Alarti is still trying to get "last word" in, even when he's been clearly proven to be a bumbling retard.

Kinda reminds me of Harrison.

Prove it.

[radditsu]

Prove it.

Fuck you. Go away.

[xmonkx]

Elethia - please see post 25-26.

[Ele]

Elethia - please see post 25-26.

Please have a screen shot of this. It would break the case wide open.

[cs616]

Elethia - please see post 25-26.

Since you (and more so Alarti) clearly care about this, why not post logs of the event? Show from where the interference happening to you claiming his interference was a disqualifying act. I think that is what Ele was saying. If he did something that broke the rules, and you called him on it after it happened but before you died, then you'd have an argument.

Until you do that, the fact that you carried on for 30 minutes after the supposed interference happened makes it seem like you're just using it as an excuse because you lost.

Also, just for reference, with a fungi and iksar regen, in 30 minutes you'd regen 6,300 hp if flopped (6hp from flopped regen + 15 from fungi) which is well over double your HP unbuffed - so even after the interference you'd have still had enough time to regen more than twice your total HP. While that doesn't have anything to do with someone being disqualified, it does illustrate how minor this supposed interference was.

[xmonkx]

Nope sure dont have it, but Necrious can confirm this.

[xmonkx]

Since you (and more so Alarti) clearly care about this, why not post logs of the event? Show from where the interference happening to you claiming his interference was a disqualifying act. I think that is what Ele was saying. If he did something that broke the rules, and you called him on it after it happened but before you died, then you'd have an argument.

Until you do that, the fact that you carried on for 30 minutes after the supposed interference happened makes it seem like you're just using it as an excuse because you lost.

Also, just for reference, with a fungi and iksar regen, in 30 minutes you'd regen 6,300 hp if flopped (6hp from flopped regen + 15 from fungi) which is well over double your HP unbuffed - so even after the interference you'd have still had enough time to regen more than twice your total HP. While that doesn't have anything to do with someone being disqualified, it does illustrate how minor this supposed interference was.


Yep you're right. I had to keep going because refusal of payment. So when some bullshit happens to me, I refuse to pay.

[cs616]

Yep you're right. I had to keep going because refusal of payment. So when some bullshit happens to me, I refuse to pay.

You'll have to excuse everyone with a brain here since taking the word of someone who's word is the very thing in question isn't validating information - hence people asking for logs. How do you not have logs? Weren't you the guy who claimed he was stocking up on HDs after eating a suspension so that you could fraps everything, but some how don't even have logs turned on?

[xmonkx]

You malicious insults will not get any bit closer to the truth. I do not have anything to prove to either you or anyone in this thread. The people who were there knew exactly what happened. And Sloan will testify to the fact he refused to pay me when he DQ'ed, that is if hes "honorable". I posted this thread to prove to Sloan I had negotiated a contract with Xerxes and per rules, he should have payed me 2 mins into VP and that was that.

[Alarti0001]

You'll have to excuse everyone with a brain here since taking the word of someone who's word is the very thing in question isn't validating information - hence people asking for logs. How do you not have logs? Weren't you the guy who claimed he was stocking up on HDs after eating a suspension so that you could fraps everything, but some how don't even have logs turned on?

He was removed from suspension. Suspension was trigger happy.

[cs616]

I do not have anything to prove to either you or anyone in this thread... I posted this thread to prove to Sloan I had negotiated a contract with Xerxes and per rules, he should have payed me 2 mins into VP and that was that.

My bad, due to the fact that you posted this thread in the public community rants and flames section I was under the impression you DID have something to prove to me and everyone else in this thread. I was unaware you and Sloan were now using RnF for the communication of private matters.

[xmonkx]

My bad, due to the fact that you posted this thread in the public community rants and flames section I was under the impression you DID have something to prove to me and everyone else in this thread. I was unaware you and Sloan were now using RnF for the communication of private matters.

I asked him to give me some sort of information to send these SS's too and he also refused. So there was not other place to put it. I'm not going to shit up FE's guild recruitment thread because I do not have to stoop to that shit-bag of a level as many of them do.

[Ele]

I asked him to give me some sort of information to send these SS's too and he also refused. So there was not other place to put it. I'm not going to shit up FE's guild recruitment thread because I do not have to stoop to that shit-bag of a level as many of them do.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/private.php?do=newpm

[kotton05]

He did claim he was gonna fraps every move someone made funny you remember that.

The fact I don't see necrious backing you up means he bowed out cause you be wrong.

[xmonkx]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/private.php?do=newpm

This is true, but Sloan isn't that important to me to memorize his Forum account name to send a private tell to.

[Alarti0001]

He did claim he was gonna fraps every move someone made funny you remember that.

The fact I don't see necrious backing you up means he bowed out cause you be wrong.

Necrious does not participate in RnF. Also your statement is a logical fallacy. Necrious being silent doesnt imply anything.

[kotton05]

whoa k

[Tanthallas]

When a watcher aggord sericx fear warm which allowed xerxes to kill sericx that was the breach and it was shown. Notice was given before the competition.

Are you a fucking retard?

[Alarti0001]

Are you a fucking retard?

Are you?

Stop sipping those wine coolers.

[Tanthallas]

I see you still remember the jokes; you missed me didnt you.

[runlvlzero]

Thread is now boring and has stopped delivering.

[Tanthallas]

Neither plat nor entertainment has been delivered.

[doraf]

This thread is poop.

http://cdn0.lostateminor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Dog-poop-1000px-990x500.jpg

[Alarti0001]

I see you still remember the jokes; you missed me didnt you.

a little :)

[susvain0362]

did anyone think the someone would actually pay the 100k?

theres no way anyone ever believed that 100k would be handed over, cmon now

[Tanthallas]

Well we each gave Necrious our 100k to hold; as i trust him.

Sericx gave him so much grief, etc., after necrious told him that he thinks Sericx lost fair and square that necrious offered to pay me out of his own money and I refused.

There are some honorable people left in TMO for sure.

[doraf]

Well we each gave Necrious our 100k to hold; as i trust him.

Sericx gave him so much grief, etc., after necrious told him that he thinks Sericx lost fair and square that necrious offered to pay me out of his own money and I refused.

There are some honorable people left in TMO for sure.

God damn, Sericx is a little bitch faggot.

[xmonkx]

Well we each gave Necrious our 100k to hold; as i trust him.

Sericx gave him so much grief, etc., after necrious told him that he thinks Sericx lost fair and square that necrious offered to pay me out of his own money and I refused.

There are some honorable people left in TMO for sure.

No bud, you lost fair and square and started bitching a storm. Not my fault you are a derper and lost 2 mins after we started when I clearly stated to you to stay at the zone in. Would you like the screenshot?

[Godefroi]

Sericx you are the one shit talking all day, now you got raped and everyone knows what happened. Dont let Necrious pay for you, bitch.

[xmonkx]

Sorry all the wind bouncing off your white flag - I couldn't hear what you said. One more time please.

[maverixdamighty]

Mavtank and some enchanter whose name I cant remember both owe me 100k :(

you owe me a green scale.

[kotton05]

I can beat you naked with just clickies. C'mon.

You claim to be the top monk but aalpha and kingore shit all over you. You making bets calling people out and losing then putting necrious on the spot who is 100% legit is just lame. Also makes others ashamed. While you're pretty cool Sericx, your honor is forever tarnished, not like that matters on p99 to some.

[xmonkx]

Lol Merkk thinks hes pro because hes not KoS to VP dragons and uses shitty dragon charm. Forgot I was talking to a pro! Btw, I never claimed to be the best monk in TMO nor have I ever said this. And yeah I made and bet and the rules are the rules and Sloan refused to pay me. And you're the one to sit here and tell me about honor. Bitch, I still have the skype convo of you on verge of crying while apologizing to Eccezan. Then you turn around just as I predicted when your little butt buddies came back. So check your shit at the door before you want to sit here and talk about honor.

[Tanthallas]

Necrious and I made the rules, not you dipshit. You dont make the rules to your own game.

Necrious and I said that there was no harm no foul in what happened; we both said play on and moved to entrance.

You got steamrolled in the meantime and eventually died. You even q'ed out aggro and Xerxes did not.

You are the shittiest monk I have seen in there, and I have seen some pretty shitty monks.

[xmonkx]

You made the rules? Really Sloan, please go take a look back at post 1 dumbshit.

[Tanthallas]

Highlights:

Sericx shouts: ' Oh yeah not buffed; how does Hosh AE only take you to 40% then?"

Answer: Bladestopper

Sericx shouts: ' DQ you ran by and aggroed hoshkar Sloan '.

Fun Fact: Sloan is not KoS.

Wish I remembered the other; was too busy listening to Xerxes laugh his ass off at how pathetic you were on vent the whole time though.

[xmonkx]

Please explain this Sloan? And when you obviously broke the rules you cry like a bitch.

http://oi42.tinypic.com/xpc9id.jpg

[Tanthallas]

When your own guildmember who is watching you thinks you are a retard; you should just accept that you are in fact retarded.

[xmonkx]

Can't explain it can you dumb shit? Even you're own guildy stated what happened.

copped an AE fear

yah the only wurm that was next to me and the only wurm that I can kill Xerxes with. Not my fault you suck and broke the rules within 2 mins of the match started and refused to pay. So, you're allowed to refuse but I can not. You can proceed to the STFU truck bud.

[Tanthallas]

The stfu truck. Interesting.

Anyway, I am sorry you are a bad monk. Trying to pretend you didnt lose in a fair fight only makes you a retarded bad monk, however. I strongly suggest you start taking anti-depressants; maybe even go out for a jog or at the very least open a window once and a while.

I am going to start a fund designed to help social rejects like yourself; for every dragon FE, IB, and TMO kills I will donate 1k to this fund to use to pay your bets in VP. I just hope that one day you get the help you need to nip this retardation at its bud.

[xmonkx]

Congrats, bring RL situation into an argument and my PROOF, which you have zero because your fraps with the evidence that will prove my story correct suddenly "cut out". And for any FE/IB that thinks Sloan gives a shit about you or your guild hit me up, I will show you screenshots stating differently. Hes already tired of this bullshit poopsocking, he already knows in the back of his tiny little head hes not getting another VP dragon kill (maybe in Velious but have fun waiting). Not like hes hasn't walked out on you guys once already. App it up to TMO. Sorry Merkk, you had you're chance and you blew it. Have fun quiting the game or raiding Chardok royals after FE/IB goes down the shitter.....again.

[Tanthallas]

Its ok son; we are here for you.

[Tanthallas]

Alarti, you have much more work to do on this one.

He is supposed to appeal to proof that is either irrelevant / misleading to the argument at hand while remaining calm and composed in light of people trying to point this out to him. He is obviously failing the latter, but while he is performing alright in regards to the former it seems to me that he actually believes that this constitutes proof. This is a telltale sign of mental derangement coupled with micropenis syndrome.

Donate to the Sericx fund for the socially inept today; even a small donation can help victims subject to such a tragic existence hold on a little longer.

[xmonkx]

You mad? Reply if you're mad.

[Tanthallas]

Oh my...

[xmonkx]

Confirmed mad. Now i'll let you have the last word as this will be the last time I post here. Have a great day Sloan!

[Tanthallas]

You can have the last word, sport.

[kotton05]

Sell a hard drive for fraps for therapy.

[radditsu]

Wtf

[Tanthallas]

Hi beautiful

[Chanto]

Well being as i Necrious held the money i guess i should share my opinion for what its worth and warning i am not good putting my thoughts into few words =P

If this was ran strict by the rules like how botb rules are, as to say you must follow the rules or lose no arguments (example:stepping off pad in arena) , Sericx could have certainly argued(and did) that you DQ'd early. And any rule being put in place IMO should be followed or whats the point?

Sericx was clear that if you or I agrod anything near them that we would be DQ and lose the money, this is a rule that we both agreed to even though i suggested we stay at the zone in. Not only did you agro stuff around both of them but hokushin and heallun also left the zone in when they were not supposed to but no one really said anything about that just mentioning you guys were being dumb and asking for it.

Right there when you agrod that stuff around them you guys were DQ but argued that it could not have effected them.How do you know whats going on in his mind at that time? Maybe it would not have effected you or something but you are not him and you were not in the situation he was.If he felt it did effect him and what he was doing you cant really say for certain otherwise. Sloan sericx and xerxes were all very close within range of training each other when it happened so its possible that you interfered with something he was trying to do. Your whole argument was based on something you could not possible even know.

Sericx did stop and call the DQ. Sloan xerexes and heallun all argued and would not accept it even saying Sloan had a fraps that shows he did not effect anything witch turned out to be a lie. I didnt agree to a damn thing about it being fine and saying it was no foul it was just very clear you were not going to pay for it.

You guys really had no good reason to argue other then not wanting to lose, it was clear that sloan did in fact do exactly what the rule said not to but you guys argued anyway and refused to pay for it. The rule said not to agro shit around them not that not to agro shit around them and then the guy who agrod has to agree that he messed you up lol.

With you guys arguing and refusing to pay only real option sericx had was to try and keep playing if he wanted his money weather he felt he had already won or not that did not not matter. And i can see why he would not want to honor the agreement when you just minutes before did not honor yours its pretty obvious.

The only reason i offered to pay was because i should have been more responsible holding the money, i seen you guys were not taking the rules seriously and i knew that would lead to some trouble. I should have told you guys i am not holding it when i seen what was happening but i did not so i just said i would back the bet because it wasnt a big deal and would have been worth it to just settle it. If sericx stopped at the DQ and you guys didnt pay i would have paid for you Just as much as i offered to pay for sericx.

TLDR: Sloan should have paid when he died on top of sericx and xerxes from the start it was clearly understood by both of us that would cause a DQ, Its clear from the screenshots that was the rule and you guys were just telling him to shut up when he was saying it. It is not his fault you did not take the rule seriously and carelessly went out and broke it and you should have paid for it like a man instead of arguing I can promise you that if i had done what you did i would not have hesitated to pay up. And its just my opinion that sense Sericx did not call it there(probally should have when rules were being loosley inforced) and continued he should have ended up paying you for the kill afterward or he should have quit at the DQ. but i cant really blame him for not wanting to. Only reason I offered to pay Sloan was because i should have took more control over how dumb people were being before it even all started and decided i would back the bet for whoever lost if they refused to pay. You guys both lost and both refused to pay...everyone acted like a bitch this day over a small bet!

[Alarti0001]

100k is a small bet..... Necrious is Scrooge McDuck confirmed... I will be interested in seeing the responses to necrious' post.

[Godefroi]

so sloan died watching, Sericx carried on nonetheless, then gets killed, then argues there was a DQ?

lol ok, I guess whats to remember is Sericx got killed by Xerxes, way to QQ though, good thread !!!

[Estolcles]

I still don't get the convoluted point of whatever the contest was in the first place.

It's like TNA's booking by Vince Russo.

[Tanthallas]

Sericx was insistent that you went to observe necrious; hence i was insistent that there should be a FE and TMO observer. Either one of us could have been feared like that; it just happened to be myself. Staying completely away from the fight does not allow for any observation and makes our presence out there completely moot. Hence after that we both agreed to just go to the zone in and not even bother observing.

My 'interference' did not cause the death of anyone or jeopardize anyones position - Sericx was screaming that I aggroed hoshkar before this as well, so it was automatic DQ, when we both know that I am not KOS to hoshkar and did nothing of the sort. Myself and you, necrious, agreed to move to the zone in and i said many times in OOC that the games would continue - that if you had any objection to that you could voice it up at that moment. Not only did you not object, as the point of this competition was a fight between Xerxes and Sericx and not the extent to which one could DQ the other, but you and me continued on to put in firmer rules on the extent to which people could /q to wipe agro, etc.

Now - if Sericx would have been adamant about calling the thing off and about us paying for the disruption that this apparent DQ caused it would have been one thing. Instead, he continued on after we both made clear that we expected everything to proceed as normal. I am not sure how he expected either you or anyone else to 'observe' in this instance if he was not opening the potential for something like this to happen. I would have gladly stayed at zone in with you if you had stayed there as well.

This post is not in the spirit that you were discussing this with me Necrious - I understand that you want to defend your guildmember, but we both know that as far as the bet was concerned, a 1v1 vs any FE or IB member in VP, Sericx lost. Holding onto a technicality is bad sportsmanship; especially one that had nothing to do with his eventual demise at Xerxes hand.

[Tanthallas]

I would add that I got feared from a wurm that was not aggroed by me and died before that wurm even put out a second fear. Neither of the monks was affected by it whatsoever - both had aggro on the wurms beforehand and would have been attacked instead of me in the case that they were thrown out of FD by this - it is obvious that both were FD, causing the wurms to aggro myself. The wurms did not change positions, as i was feared directly into them and more or less one shot by the 3 of them.

If the rules state that there are to be observers, and the rules also do not allow for the fact that an observer could potentially be thrown into the mix like this - even with 250 MR - then it is clear the rules are nonsense. This is why we mutually decided to move to the zone in after this occurred and just not observe. Once again - the point was to establish the fairest possible fight between the two; to the extent that we could make this possible by changing how we were interacting, we did.

[kotton05]

so sloan died watching, Sericx carried on nonetheless, then gets killed, then argues there was a DQ?

lol ok, I guess whats to remember is Sericx got killed by Xerxes, way to QQ though, good thread !!!

He sure has no more bragging rights. Appriciate necrious posting but seems alil odd. Cause if it was a truy DQ he should of stopped but 30 mins later Sericx died after continuing... So he continued then cried DQ when a shaman was killed to a fear 30 mins b4. How is this rational...

Make enough bs rules so that when you lose you can cry you didn't lose. You died and tried for 30 mins after Sloan got accidentally feared on a train and he was playing a shaman without a fd ring.

Confirmed Sericx a bigger bitch than these strippers I throw 1's at...

[Autotune]

If someone broke a rule they knew was a rule, they lost, regardless of who called what and once you lose there is no game anymore.


Stop being little bitches with all your bets, fucking sack up and pay out when you know you dun goofed. You guys always make these silly fucking bets and then argue about why you're being such cunts not paying out.

[Chanto]

I should clarify that i am not trying to throw Sloan under the bus here as i notice its almost what my whole post does. Sloan is not being totally unreasonable here, the DQ rule was a rule but it was retarded and was just a way for a cheap win for either side.

In Sloans defense it was kind lame to try and win the bet on a DQ. Even though the rule WAS broken, it was a shitty rule to begin with that made no sense and Sericx probably should have let it go, not to say he HAD to let it go but it would have been reasonable to let it go and continue and honor the bet form there on. The interference was an accident it was not malicious and could have simply been moved on from.

If you wanted to be reasonable and fair with each other and use common sense and not be so prideful about winning or losing the logical and what i see as most fair thing under the situation where rules were so poorly made would have been to continue like we did and like i said Sericx should have paid up for dieing (This is what should have happened for the sake of being fair and reasonable IMO)

If you followed the rules agreed upon, sericx should have had the opportunity to call it if he really wanted to at the DQ, but that was never really an option.

In the end i feel everyone was wrong starting from the very start of not discussing the rules, just by that alone this was bound to happen, no ones truthfully right here, it could go either way, sloan could have paid sericx for a DQ and Sericx could have let it go and paid for dieing afterward but none of that happened. instead both sides argued every step of the way.

[runlvlzero]

What is amazing is that paragraphs and paragraphs are written about this. Why not just get on a char and slay your enemies whom you don't like. Take their pixels and their women?

[runlvlzero]

Multiple paragraphs. Kinda makin me double post and get mad.

[Chanto]

You guys keep saying if truely a DQ then he would have stopped 30 mins ago but to me that makes no sense at all. just stop and think about it

you are acting like if it was really a DQ why didnt sericx go collect his money then? You are ignoring the fact that sloan made it clear he was not going to pay for it.

So put your self in that position where you felt the other guy just broke the rules and is telling you hes not going to pay you for it because he does not agree. You are telling me that you would just quit then?? you would not try to go on and win anyway as its the ONLY way your gonna get the money? And if you honestly felt you got cheated because they broke a rule and wont pay your telling me you would pay them afterward? and your really trying to say that going on to play admits in some way there was no DQ? your just not useing your head here at all.

I think ANYONE who thought they just got cheated would go on to try and win anyway because there gonna feel they got nothing to lose at that point, for anyone to try and argue that because he didnt stop that admits in some way there was no DQ is pretty crazy.

[runlvlzero]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Dairy_Queen_Grill_%26_Chill_sign.jpg

[Autotune]

Regardless of how stupid a rule is, if everyone agrees on it and then someone breaks it they should own up to it right then and pay out.

[kotton05]

Thanks for clarifying necrious!!!

As to being a DQ, I gotta say its kinda iffy, there's 2 things that remain, we agree that it was a dumb rule and Sericx did die to Xerxes

I can't really grasp the idea behind the rule with a no harm no foul point of view. If anything for Sericx killing a shaman at zone in is his biggest victory in all this.

[Lazie]

I don't think anyone was ever intending to pay up. Be honest.

[Skittlez]

No one 'pays up' on here. The losers will do whatever to find a reason to make the fight and terms agreed on, void.

[radditsu]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=14DK8PTl01Y&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D14DK8PTl01Y



Its the only way

[Ele]

No one 'pays up' on here. The losers will do whatever to find a reason to make the fight and terms agreed on, void.

100k? green dragon scale? lol those were joke bets. You took them seriously? Lol on you

[Ele]

100k is a small bet..... Necrious is Scrooge McDuck confirmed... I will be interested in seeing the responses to necrious' post.

Just words, right? Just an opinion, right?


No offense to you. Nec :)

[Godefroi]

nobody pays, in the end xerxes murdered sericx, thats all there is to remember

[Tanthallas]

Regardless of how stupid a rule is, if everyone agrees on it and then someone breaks it they should own up to it right then and pay out.

The rule clashed with the fact that Sericx wanted Necrious to follow as an observer.

Necrious and I did the best we could to try to make things fair; when we saw that we could not possibly observe, we left and sat at zone in. The point is for them to fight fairly, not to jump on any chance to DQ the other. When the rules are used instrumentally by the players, they do not server their purpose as rules. I wouldnt expect you to understand this anyway pal (=

[Tanthallas]

*server = serve

[getsome]

If people wanted to observe, why not use bind sight?

[Alarti0001]

Just words, right? Just an opinion, right?


No offense to you. Nec :)

Are you confused?

[Tanthallas]

If people wanted to observe, why not use bind sight?

Sericx wanted Necrious to follow, so I said I would follow such that there would be 1 TMO and 1 FE. Sloan was my choice because he was not KOS, and literally the only thing that could bring him down would be not resisting a fear at 250MR.

In hindsight, bind sight would probably have been the proper course of action.

[Clark]

Sorry man, this is just too sad for me to RnF over - not only are you a bad monk, but quite dishonorable as well.

[Autotune]

The rule clashed with the fact that Sericx wanted Necrious to follow as an observer.

Necrious and I did the best we could to try to make things fair; when we saw that we could not possibly observe, we left and sat at zone in. The point is for them to fight fairly, not to jump on any chance to DQ the other. When the rules are used instrumentally by the players, they do not server their purpose as rules. I wouldnt expect you to understand this anyway pal (=

I wouldn't understand, because when I make a bet I pay out if I lose. I don't understand the logic shitty people use to keep their chump change.

[Tanthallas]

You are so cute.