The Hbb/lune/rc/whoever else Political Thread

[gotrocks]

So they can all gtfo of my sex advice thread. I think you guys were about here:


Anarchy like all other political affiliations endorses a particular structure to society. In some way they're all a state of being. Authoritarian would encompass a collectivist state and Anarchy an individualist state of being.
rhetorical sophistry.

nothing you said here actually has any meaning, even tho it appears to be words put together in a sentence.

anarchy is non political by nature. a "state of being" is not equivalent to "a State."

Carry on.

[Lune]

I already stopped shitting up your thread when HBB busted out his glorious goto "rhetorical sophistry" bit that automatically discredits any argument he doesn't agree with or is too tired/bored/lazy to read.

[Recycled Children]

I already stopped shitting up your thread when HBB busted out his glorious goto "rhetorical sophistry" bit that automatically discredits any argument he doesn't agree with or is too tired/bored/lazy to read.

The term "rhetorical sophistry" is redundant. Using just rhetoric or sophistry would suffice, he's just creating a word salad to make himself sound intelligent. Go ahead Google "rhetorical sophistry" even Google doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Sgt1stClassPerkerwood]

Lets talk about why trannys are so gross. Thats the platform for my new RNF party

[gotrocks]

sgt1stclassperkerwood, i recommend you visit dr drews thread to talk about your hatred of trannys.

[katrik]

Lets talk about why trannys are so gross. Thats the platform for my new RNF party

Awww... im not gross <3

[Hastley]

Shut up got rocks

[gotrocks]

Hastley, i think we need to talk.

[Hasbinbad]

The term "rhetorical sophistry" is redundant.
Not really.
I was implying that you bring sophistry to the level of artfulness.

[Recycled Children]

Not really.
I was implying that you bring sophistry to the level of artfulness.

Tell me more about how you know nothing about politics. This shit is making me laugh.

[Hasbinbad]

i know enough about politics to know that I want nothing more to do with it. That shit fucks shit up.

[Hasbinbad]

Hell is other people.

[Recycled Children]

i know enough about politics to know that I want nothing more to do with it. That shit fucks shit up.

I agree with this sentiment but I'm not sure how that puts you outside of the political spectrum. Even in Anarchism you fall in the spectrum. Anarchism is clearly represented and calling Libertarians "Libertardians" seems self deprecating. Your view aligns with mine. :confused:

[Hasbinbad]

Yeah no. I am fundamentally against any state, not just current states, and I am not in favor of "pet peeve" states, like libertarians or minarchists.

However, I am not in favor of lack of central organization. I am in favor of exploring ideas about central organization that do not include the foundation of a state.

Such a system does not yet exist, as far as I know.

[Classic]

Hasbinbad if you piss straight up. Where does it land?

[Recycled Children]

Yeah no. I am fundamentally against any state, not just current states, and I am not in favor of "pet peeve" states, like libertarians or minarchists.

However, I am not in favor of lack of central organization. I am in favor of exploring ideas about central organization that do not include the foundation of a state.

Such a system does not yet exist, as far as I know.

I'm not sure I know what you mean by "pet peeve" states. Central organization still sounds like government to me.

[Lu|z Sext]

http://cdn0.lostateminor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/superhero-hipsters-5.jpg

[mtb tripper]

It comes down to a few classifications, hand-out taker, self righteous, or beneficiary

[mtb tripper]

Whats right or whats wrong is a chart of what your very soul was raised upon and what you see happening and effecting your physical structure as well as psychological

[Bardalicious]

mtb ur too drug-addled to participate in this thread, sry bro

[Hasbinbad]

Hasbinbad if you piss straight up. Where does it land?
Firstly that depends on what you mean by "up." Do you mean "against prevailing gravity?" In that case, the kinetic energy of the urine would transfer to potential energy, and then return along the path of gravity. If you mean "towards the top of your reference," then it entirely depends on the orientation of the gravitational poles.

[Hasbinbad]

I'm not sure I know what you mean by "pet peeve" states. Central organization still sounds like government to me.
states that want NO GUBMINT IN MAI GUNS but all the sudden being christian is supposed to be protected.

they want freedom from government interference, except for whatever their pet peeves are. they want freedom of speech, or they dont like hippies growing pot, or whatever.

cessesionists, survivalists, libertarians, and minarchists often fit this profile

[Hasbinbad]

and as far as "organization" being analogous to "a state" for you...

all i can say is that that is probably because "the state" is your frame of reference, and you should try thinking outside of that box more often.

when all your tools are hammers, all your problems begin to look like nails.

[Maddox]

Lets talk about why trannys are so gross. Thats the platform for my new RNF party

One problem I have with trannys is that often they look like a woman... but they actually have a penis. I believe that this is a contributing factor to trannys being 'gross'.

[Gaffin']

fuck this gay thread

[Lu|z Sext]

http://images.plus613.net/images/21800/www_plus613_com_urbankip1sb.gif

[Maddox]

Lets talk about why trannys are so gross. Thats the platform for my new RNF party

Also, when you are doing anal and you reach around and grab a handful of testes, it is slightly confusing at first. Obviously you don't stop, but the initial surprise and/or trying to block it out of your mind is sometimes an inconvenience.

[Hasbinbad]

When I was a child, nobody cared about me enough to teach me how to read, so now I am reactionary and mean to people whose lifestyles I don't understand or agree with.

[Maddox]

I'm going to organize a 5K "Run for/from the trannys" event in hope to find a cure to this malady. You would think with modern medicine we should be able to find a cure to such a disgusting illness but perhaps more funding would help.

[Ahldagor]

Firstly that depends on what you mean by "up." Do you mean "against prevailing gravity?" In that case, the kinetic energy of the urine would transfer to potential energy, and then return along the path of gravity. If you mean "towards the top of your reference," then it entirely depends on the orientation of the gravitational poles.

keep your plato moist hbb, but it's still going to end in nothing.

and as far as "organization" being analogous to "a state" for you...

all i can say is that that is probably because "the state" is your frame of reference, and you should try thinking outside of that box more often.

when all your tools are hammers, all your problems begin to look like nails.

one don't need a hammer to hammer in a nail. and leave out that kantian frame shit. agreements don't make a reality.

[Hasbinbad]

lol ahldagor wtf are you even saying? frames of reference don't exist?

[Recycled Children]

states that want NO GUBMINT IN MAI GUNS but all the sudden being christian is supposed to be protected.

they want freedom from government interference, except for whatever their pet peeves are. they want freedom of speech, or they dont like hippies growing pot, or whatever.

cessesionists, survivalists, libertarians, and minarchists often fit this profile

You don't understand Libertarianism.

[Ahldagor]

lol ahldagor wtf are you even saying? frames of reference don't exist?

too far over your head? sorry, here, let me explain: objectively or disinterested, then no. can something be measured without an interest? you still living with descartes egotistical notions pushing along your thoughts (that's self evident actually)? you're a luddite plain and simple.

[doeda]

fuck this gay thread

[Hasbinbad]

too far over your head? sorry, here, let me explain: objectively or disinterested, then no. can something be measured without an interest? you still living with descartes egotistical notions pushing along your thoughts (that's self evident actually)? you're a luddite plain and simple.
http://i.imgur.com/AWtOBtQ.jpg

[Recycled Children]

http://i.imgur.com/AWtOBtQ.jpg

You should take your own advice.

[Hasbinbad]

You should take your own advice.
#1 that was not advice.
#2 when i explain things, I put them in layman's terms as much as possible.

[Recycled Children]

"Anarchy's a state of being, maaaan. Like I don't believe in a state but I want central organization, you know what I'm saying? Fuckin' Libertardians amirite broz?"

I'm sure this all makes sense when you're spun out of your gourd on some highly potent mega bud but for the rest of us you need to stop being so vague. Also check your philosophy bullshit at the door you're trying waaay too hard.

[Kagatob]

#2 when i explain things, I put them in layman's terms as much as possible.

Bull fucking shit.

[Hasbinbad]

Bull fucking shit.
not at all surprised you don't understand

[Champion_Standing]

Realistic political spectrum for you guys:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2mr7e5z.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

http://i.imgur.com/TdmzsE9.jpg

[Recycled Children]

http://i.imgur.com/TdmzsE9.jpg

You're delusional.

[Hasbinbad]

You're delusional.
No, everyone else is delusional.

[mtb tripper]

a shitstain on the underpants of these forums

[Sidelle]

No, everyone else is delusional.

Maybe you need to head over to Gotrocks' mental health thread and talk it out. Haven't you ever heard that if everyone is wrong but you there might be a problem... with you?

Just sayin'.

[mtb tripper]

I want in on some of these juicy political discussions

[Hasbinbad]

The number of people buying in to a delusion does not affect the validity of the delusion (e.g. cults).

[Lune]

How Lune wakes up every morning. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGvHnDeS12o)

http://i.imgur.com/EmF9dS8.jpg

[mtb tripper]

ill be seeing this thread later

[Recycled Children]

No, everyone else is delusional.

Funny how no one understands you but you. I'd say you're delusional.

[Kagatob]

not at all surprised you don't understand

You're the last person I want to hear that from. Simply put, to say you become excessively verbose whenever you try to make a point would be a massive understatement. Even more simply put, you consistently do the opposite of that thing you said you do.

You aren't even close to the level of intelligence you believe you have and you come off even less so.

tl;dr Put down the thesaurus faggot. :)

[Hasbinbad]

http://i.imgur.com/45aEb50.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

Well played Lune, but I believe you'll be conceding this round.

[Kagatob]

What does that have anything at all to do with intelligence?

[Hasbinbad]

please address the issues I've presented:http://i.imgur.com/45aEb50.jpg
..rather than your continued ad hominems

[mtb tripper]

true american patriot

[Recycled Children]

HBB stone faced, short bus riding, junk food eater. You are in fact in a statist. You want central organization. You want people to manage your life.

[Hasbinbad]

you think organization means management lals

[Recycled Children]

you think organization means management lals

Rather than laughing like a clown start explaining what you're talking about?

[Hasbinbad]

Rather than laughing like a clown start explaining what you're talking about?
Because, like a thousand times before, you and your kind will simply misconstrue anything I say into my support for some ludicrous crude doppelganger of my point.

[Alorae]

is your doppleganger fat too?

[Sidelle]

Because, like a thousand times before, you and your kind will simply misconstrue anything I say into my support for some ludicrous crude doppelganger of my point.

I'm always looking for a way to use the word 'doppelganger' in a sentence. Well done.

[Recycled Children]

Because, like a thousand times before, you and your kind will simply misconstrue anything I say into my support for some ludicrous crude doppelganger of my point.

Then why say anything? Continually chortling doesn't prove to me or anyone else you have any idea you know what you're talking about. All you've said are blanket statements about some vague ideas all the while upholding this smug air of pseudo-intellectualism. I would have some shred of respect if you were willing to explain yourself. Lune is fucking bat shit crazy with his authoritarian/fascist nonsense but at least he's willing to say it. Sack up.

[Ahldagor]

hbb feels the need to say something because if he doesn't then he'll be totally impotent (btw there's philosophical punning at play with that, that help you hbb). and who or what ever decided to use some horrid irony with that einstein photo should be shot.

lunes not a fascist, he's an ancient greek. and hbb is still a luddite.

[Lune]

You guys are polluting what is an otherwise neutral and decently expansive term with a few very narrow and oversimplified applications. It doesn't have to be anything like Nazi Germany. There are many brands of fascism, and fascism is only an approximation of what I believe. It embodies syncretic politics, or looking for solutions outside the traditional left-right political spectrum.

It's fairly simple to me: Population reduction is the best solution to almost all of mankind's most dreadful problems, and population reduction can only be accomplished by an authoritarian system. An authoritarian system can still be a functional republic just like our own, but your duty to society is much greater.

I know the survivalist redneck bible-thumping libertarians would never go for it, but to be honest, we should have just exterminated all of you in the Civil War. See? That's me being a Nazi.

[Ahldagor]

hence ancient greek

[Hasbinbad]

authoritarian =/= fascism

[Ahldagor]

authoritarian =/= fascism

fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/Submit
noun
1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

au·thor·i·tar·i·an
əˌTHôriˈte(ə)rēən,ôˌTHär-/Submit
adjective
1. favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, esp. that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.


so lune goes to the root operator and you claim not equal. you're desperate now aren't you? really sad how much your impotency shows on this forum.

[Kagatob]

Because, like a thousand times before, you and your kind will simply misconstrue anything I say into my support for some ludicrous crude doppelganger of my point.

is your doppleganger fat too?

Best post in thread. :D

[Champion_Standing]

It's fairly simple to me: Population reduction is the best solution to almost all of mankind's most dreadful problems, and population reduction can only be accomplished by an authoritarian system. An authoritarian system can still be a functional republic just like our own, but your duty to society is much greater.


We need a stronger government to solve the problems that the governments of the world create, fabricate, and perpetuate. amirite?

[Lune]

We need a stronger government to solve the problems that the governments of the world create, fabricate, and perpetuate. amirite?

I'm not sure I completely understand what you're claiming, other than voicing your disdain for authority. Currently the world's most miserable countries tend to be the ones with the most ineffective or nearly nonexistent governments.

But then, every society has the government it deserves and you can't have a good government if your culture is a retarded collection of shitstains.

[Champion_Standing]

I'm not sure I completely understand what you're claiming, other than voicing your disdain for authority. Currently the world's most miserable countries tend to be the ones with the most ineffective or nearly nonexistent governments.

But then, every society has the government it deserves and you can't have a good government if your culture is a retarded collection of shitstains.

The most miserable places on the planet have very effective governments, they are accomplishing their goals of exploiting/murdering/starving their subjects quite well. It is nice to use the term "ineffective" rather than disgustingly corrupt and/or murderous.

All of humanities problems come from government. If they aren't killing and manipulating their own people they are doing it to some other people.

People don't starve on this planet because of overpopulation or "ineffective and nonexistent" governments, they starve because of governments that are rampant with corruption and greed.

The state is the single largest cause of most of the suffering that human beings have ever experienced.

[Ahldagor]

The most miserable places on the planet have very effective governments, they are accomplishing their goals of exploiting/murdering/starving their subjects quite well. It is nice to use the term "ineffective" rather than disgustingly corrupt and/or murderous.

All of humanities problems come from government. If they aren't killing and manipulating their own people they are doing it to some other people.

People don't starve on this planet because of overpopulation or "ineffective and nonexistent" governments, they starve because of governments that are rampant with corruption and greed.

The state is the single largest cause of most of the suffering that human beings have ever experienced.


so what's bad about norway owning 2% of the world's stocks via a public pension? they seem pretty happy about that.