Oh Wreker, you campstealer. You're so cute.

[Sylphe]

So there I was, exp-ing at the spectres in oasis as level 45 mage along with a lvl 44 cleric. We were killing the specters and along comes a 41 necro named Wreker from guild Drunken Defender of High Keep. He went up the tower where the 3 spectres spawn and camp it after the cleric and I have already cleared it out. He claimed that it was his because the mobs were up for a full 2 minutes. A little bit later he went /anon.

http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae52/SyIphe/wreker.jpg

[Walabaego]

Lol you all couldn't have just joined up in a group?? Easy fix no?

[Toony]

"ur an op typical mage"

Translation?

[Sylphe]

If he simply asked and he were cool then yes. It's okay. Gonna boot him now because someone cool is about to join us and we need all 8.

[Eyry]

This is a little sketchy. If the mobs were sitting up for literally 2 mins, (IE not an over exaggeration) than I would have pulled the specs to. I was under the impression that in order for you to call it a camp, you had to be in the process for clearing mobs, or have them down and on a respawn cycle, only to kill them when they immediately reappear. This is like those guys in SK claiming they have Centaurs camped, yet there are 4 of them up at a time. You cant just let them sit there. Especially if there are 2 up. I can understand if only 1 was up.

[azeth]

These issues shouldn't arise if people just respected camps and didn't feel the need/entitled to sit and watch your pulls to verify in their eyes whether you were technically "camped"


Such as, my wife and I doing Ogre Guards last night. We have all ~9 guards dead and this enc appears, Quitis and claims that we MUST choose a pack of guards to camp since HE deemed the guards "2 different camps". Wrong buddy, you zoned in, theyre camped, now your nerd raging. Instead of watching me pull for half an hour to determine my kill speed, gtfo its camped.

[Messianic]

This is a little sketchy. If the mobs were sitting up for literally 2 mins, (IE not an over exaggeration) than I would have pulled the specs to. I was under the impression that in order for you to call it a camp, you had to be in the process for clearing mobs, or have them down and on a respawn cycle, only to kill them when they immediately reappear. This is like those guys in SK claiming they have Centaurs camped, yet there are 4 of them up at a time. You cant just let them sit there. Especially if there are 2 up. I can understand if only 1 was up.

I kind of agree, but it's really circumstantial. If I see you guys killing specs effectively and there are two up for a minute or two, I'll assume you've got it camped and may just be regenning mana to be on the safe side. If you're barely taking one at a time or doing it much more slowly than a few mins, I can't assume you've got it camped.

In your case, given the levels/etc involved, I would have left the OP alone.

[Eyry]

/agree with Messianic

[purist]

You should turn off Luclin elementals.

Main menu > Options > Hit Next > Uncheck "Elementals & Skeletons"

Thank me later

[Sylphe]

Oh we were killing perty effectively, but not as effective as Wreker. He's up there fearing the spectres so that they'd run in a tight square and never out of the pet's arm's reach. It's pretty cool imo.

[President]

These issues shouldn't arise if people just respected camps and didn't feel the need/entitled to sit and watch your pulls to verify in their eyes whether you were technically "camped"


Such as, my wife and I doing Ogre Guards last night. We have all ~9 guards dead and this enc appears, Quitis and claims that we MUST choose a pack of guards to camp since HE deemed the guards "2 different camps". Wrong buddy, you zoned in, theyre camped, now your nerd raging. Instead of watching me pull for half an hour to determine my kill speed, gtfo its camped.

It's pretty well known this guy is a douchebag.

[azeth]

we derailed, but yea Quitis is the first player my wife and I have had a remotely negative interaction with so far.. both lvl 35.

[Shaun421]

Sylphe, it's little interactions with these wonderful people that led me to not play much at all anymore. It was hard enough to finally get a camp, but I just don't have the energy to fight over them anymore. If it wasn't for all of your help at those very spectres, I might not have even made 45.

Thanks for your help and good luck with your spectres.

[Sylphe]

Sylphe, it's little interactions with these wonderful people that led me to not play much at all anymore. It was hard enough to finally get a camp, but I just don't have the energy to fight over them anymore. If it wasn't for all of your help at those very spectres, I might not have even made 45.

Thanks for your help and good luck with your spectres.

You always pop up when I least expect. How's it been?

[jyaku]

You should turn off Luclin elementals.

Main menu > Options > Hit Next > Uncheck "Elementals & Skeletons"

Thank me later

i just went to do this and i did'nt see that option

[jyaku]

it's horses and elementals, nvm

[Barthorn]

yeah the real problem is kasober he looks like a fiery piece of shit

[frefaln]

These issues shouldn't arise if people just respected camps and didn't feel the need/entitled to sit and watch your pulls to verify in their eyes whether you were technically "camped"

Very much agree.

Such as, my wife and I doing Ogre Guards last night.

Kinky!

We have all ~9 guards dead and this enc appears, Quitis and claims that we MUST choose a pack of guards to camp since HE deemed the guards "2 different camps".

I am shocked — almost beyond words — that Quitis would act this way. And by "shocked" I mean "not surprised at all".

[Quitis]

These issues shouldn't arise if people just respected camps and didn't feel the need/entitled to sit and watch your pulls to verify in their eyes whether you were technically "camped"


Such as, my wife and I doing Ogre Guards last night. We have all ~9 guards dead and this enc appears, Quitis and claims that we MUST choose a pack of guards to camp since HE deemed the guards "2 different camps". Wrong buddy, you zoned in, theyre camped, now your nerd raging. Instead of watching me pull for half an hour to determine my kill speed, gtfo its camped.

Or, quite the opposite. The camping rules clearly state that in order to camp a static spawn you MUST BE AT THE SPAWN WHEN IT RESPAWNS. The fact is if you have to TRAVEL TO ANOTHER PART OF THE ZONE TO CAMP A DIFFERENT SPAWN THEN IT IS A SEPERATE CAMP.

The only thing you showed that day and continue to show here on these forums is your complete lack of respect for the rules and complete illiteracy.

I could have taken the entrance spawns if I wanted since I was actually there when they repopped and you were both still over by the SK guild, be happy that I chose the 2 spawn camp instead of the 4 spawn one.

As for all of you that support zone wide camping like those two asshats, go read the rules again, and FUCK YOU.

1. Going forward, if you intend to hold or claim a camp, your group must retain presence at that camp. If you have no competition in the zone, you are more than welcome to hold as many as you like. The moment another party wants to claim a camp and you are "farming" multiple, you must decide which camp you want and forfeit the ones someone else is interested in.

Where your group resides is your camp; choose wisely.

5.Outdoor pathing mobs are not campable unless you are sitting at the spawn point and able to engage it instantly. Outdoor mobs on fast respawn such as HG and spectres, if you cannot engage immediately you do not hold the camp. Please try and share with fellow players in these instances.

[President]

Or, quite the opposite. The camping rules clearly state that in order to camp a static spawn you MUST BE AT THE SPAWN WHEN IT RESPAWNS. The fact is if you have to TRAVEL TO ANOTHER PART OF THE ZONE TO CAMP A DIFFERENT SPAWN THEN IT IS A SEPERATE CAMP.

The only thing you showed that day and continue to show here on these forums is your complete lack of respect for the rules and complete illiteracy.

I could have taken the entrance spawns if I wanted since I was actually there when they repopped and you were both still over by the SK guild, be happy that I chose the 2 spawn camp instead of the 4 spawn one.

As for all of you that support zone wide camping like those two asshats, go read the rules again, and FUCK YOU.


Whats it like being hated by everyone for being a douche?

[Quitis]

What's it like supporting ignorant illiterate noobs all the time? Oh you're a troll, it must be your hobby.

[President]

What's it like supporting ignorant illiterate noobs all the time? Oh you're a troll, it must be your hobby.

Haha I troll douches.. sound familiar?

To clarify the camp rules, they were put in place many many months ago to prevent enchanters in the bottom of guk from claiming 6 camps. They were not put in place for some cocksucker to steal 1/3rd of someones xp mobs.

[Quitis]

You clearly didn't figure this out yet. There are 6 static guards in Oggok, and 3 roamers. According the camping rules the 3 roamers are open pulls to anyone in the zone. According the camping rooms the 6 spawns are campable if you camp where they spawn. Since 4 of the spawns are in one building at entrance we call those one camp, though technically you could call the two up top one camp, the one next to the merchant another camp, and the one outside a 3rd camp. The other 2 static spawns are together outside the SK guild, on the other side of the zone. Clearly because they are in no way anywhere near the same place as the other 4 spawns, they are as defined by the rules, a seperate camp.

Also as defined by the rules, when I came in the zone, and there was only one party camping the whole zone, I am entitled to one of the two camps. They are required to give up one of the camps.

So no, i'm in no way shape or form a douche, I am a player, wanted to camp xp, and wanting another party to follow the rules and give me the camp I have every right to. That doesn't make me a bad person or a bad player, that makes me responsible and litterate.

[frefaln]

"litterate" ... LOL! Perhaps you were inventing a new word to mean you're guilty of littering? Who knows.

See, Quitis, this is your problem and it's the kind of thing that goes over your head in every situation I've seen you involved in so far. Yes, we're all aware that rules are in place regarding camps and that they're an unfortunate consequence of people being unbearable asshats. Sadly, there's a different kind of asshattery that YOU are guilty of — using these rules to substitute common sense and to justify being a douchebag.

Any non-douchebag would've walked into the zone, saw that the guards were being killed, shrugged their shoulders, and picked some other target for the evening. But not you, Lord Quitis, Purveyor of All Jackassery. You've got to whip out the rule book and split hairs so you can pretend to be an oppressed victim when people tell you to go pound sand. It's all, always, everywhere, every day, about YOU isn't it, Quitis?

[Quitis]

Troll #2. I have a fan base, i'm so honored.

I said I could read, not write jackass. If it is really so important to you i'll go install ieSpell addon and use it. Or maybe the forum moderators would fix it so I could edit my typos in this forum.

[hueylewis187]

I agree with Quitis. I mean it sucks when I'm xping in paw or somewhere clearing from the entrance to 5 mobs past the doors for mass exp. Than a small group comes in with nowhere else to go after a long run to paw. I tell them I can share half the spawns if they want. Normally it works out ok. Sometimes they get bored with only half the mobs. Sometimes they try to take all the mobs. But at least I share. I am not greedy and say Everything is MINE! I was here first!

People are soooo greedy. They think if they can kill it before it respawns. It is all theirs.
So If my druid pulls entire zones than aoe's them all down. I can claim the entire zone? Or can some dbag come in and steal my ZONE!. lol
People should share the spawns. The first group their should get first dibs on what roam or small area they want.

Let's say I'm camping 3 mobs static spawns. If someone comes and takes 1 of the 3. I don't even say anything to them. I don't expect them to ask me for 1 of the 3 either. Because almost every time you ask if you can share people get all raged out. Greeed greed greed all I see in this thread.

[StinkyGreenBud]

Really i wouldn't care but this guild can suck my nuts...i've had a few bad times with them stealing mobs/camps from me a few times now. They can all fuck off.

[Eyry]

Man, this same thing happened to me. I ran into the basement of HHK the other day and i went into one of the rooms and sat down. Some jerk started shouting in zone chat, (IE: Didnt even bother to whisper me) that I was stealing his camp (The entire Basement). It was to my understanding that you could not claim the entire basement as your camp. Someone please tell me if I am wrong, but I got my ass flamed for it.

[Messianic]

One of the problems is gamers make poor communicators.

If you see someone camping it, it's best to talk to them directly and tell them what you're doing - "I see you're handling the 4 mobs by the X landmark - I'm going to handle the other mobs by the Y landmark." If you directly tell people what you want to do ahead of time, I find they're more willing to accept the basic rules of "you can't camp entire zones" when you're straight with them.

Most people just run in and start killing things. People have pride, so that usually results in silly spats like this.

[Humerox]

Meh.

Oasis specs have always been 2 camps. I leveled my mage at that spot too, with a cleric for the most part. If someone came along and asked for the Tower camp, we gladly gave it up to them. Make friends and be nice, yada yada.

That aside, that little asshat that came along is definitive of on of the many reasons live became unbearable. Unsociable pieces of trash-talking leftover remains of last night's Trojans.

I'd take 100 Sylphes over that piece of guano.

[Humerox]

Meh.

1 Sylphe over 100 of him, is what I meant.

[Lazortag]

Man, this same thing happened to me. I ran into the basement of HHK the other day and i went into one of the rooms and sat down. Some jerk started shouting in zone chat, (IE: Didnt even bother to whisper me) that I was stealing his camp (The entire Basement). It was to my understanding that you could not claim the entire basement as your camp. Someone please tell me if I am wrong, but I got my ass flamed for it.

Did you come in and ask first, or did you just randomly start taking mobs from the basement without asking?

[Eyry]

I just came in and started killing without asking. Mobs were up so I brought them down. They were in another room so i figured they either A) Were not keeping up with the camp or B) Someone had left the camp.

/hides

[xplodr]

You guys are hilarious. These "Rules" are the main reason I stopped playing back in March. The GM's are ruining the fun of this server, not to say they aren't trying to be fair it's just that they are implementing non-original EQ rules. If this was supposed to be like live classic was, the GM's would just tell you to share and that if someone engages a mob, they own it, there are no camps. But we have these rules set up by our lovely admins that result in this kind of "jackassery" (I love that term). I don't know if they ever lifted those "raid rules" but if not that's another reason why this server sucks so bad. Back in the original "good ol' days" we learned to get along with each other because being a douche bag left you with a scarred reputation on the server. These "rules" have almost eliminated the need to preserve your good standing with the faction of norath players. Good luck with your "camps".

[purist]

"Sadly, there's a different kind of asshattery that YOU are guilty of — using these rules to substitute common sense and to justify being a douchebag... Any non-douchebag would've walked into the zone, saw that the guards were being killed, shrugged their shoulders, and picked some other target for the evening.

I was reading this and nodding, and then I thought "Hm, wait, aren't you the one that just got banned for repeatedly training some Troll in Freeport who was camping guards?

If I'm mistaken on that occusation, I apologize in advance.. But if I'm correct, that takes some cheek to go and try to lecture others about "camping guards" etiquette after doing that.

[President]

Troll #2. I have a fan base, i'm so honored.

I said I could read, not write jackass. If it is really so important to you i'll go install ieSpell addon and use it. Or maybe the forum moderators would fix it so I could edit my typos in this forum.

I love the fact that will every subsequent post you make yourself look more fucking retarded. Everyone has read the rules, and knows the rules. The issue is that these are xp camps, and not item camps, which is what those rules were *mostly* made to deal with.

Here is the scenario.

Two people come to zone and find all the guards up and proceed to take X amount of guards in the zone because they can keep them down and it is good XP.

Some asshat (that would be you) decides he is going to come to the zone and force them to choose a camp because he likes to exploit the rules to his benefit.

Said asshat takes 1/3rd of the mobs, which reduces the mob count and xp for the people duoing, causing them reduced XP and potentially having to leave to find another xp area.

Seriously, if you don't understand that, go ahead and get your mom and dad on the phone and thank them for raising a fucking asshole.

[Messianic]

You guys are hilarious. These "Rules" are the main reason I stopped playing back in March. The GM's are ruining the fun of this server, not to say they aren't trying to be fair it's just that they are implementing non-original EQ rules. If this was supposed to be like live classic was, the GM's would just tell you to share and that if someone engages a mob, they own it, there are no camps. But we have these rules set up by our lovely admins that result in this kind of "jackassery" (I love that term). I don't know if they ever lifted those "raid rules" but if not that's another reason why this server sucks so bad. Back in the original "good ol' days" we learned to get along with each other because being a douche bag left you with a scarred reputation on the server. These "rules" have almost eliminated the need to preserve your good standing with the faction of norath players. Good luck with your "camps".

Now that you've stopped playing, why don't you stop posting?

[Hogwash]

This is why we can't have nice things.

[frefaln]

I was reading this and nodding, and then I thought "Hm, wait, aren't you the one that just got banned for repeatedly training some Troll in Freeport who was camping guards?

If I'm mistaken on that occusation, I apologize in advance.. But if I'm correct, that takes some cheek to go and try to lecture others about "camping guards" etiquette after doing that.

What does "camping guards" etiquette have to do w/ my Defense of West Freeport thread? Nothing. Training had nothing to do with who had rights to what, and if I got banned I deserved it and don't dispute it. So yes, I can still have an opinion whether you like it or not.

Also, it "takes some cheek" for you to lecture me on anything, considering I sold you a Ghoulbane as soon as it dropped, then you were going to try to bank it and camp the Lord and win it again (yep, Slee told me of your little plan). It's too bad you didn't know about the Lore rule on items, but then again you're quite the paragon of sportsmanship and in a position to lecture others aren't you :)

[thxer]

If all the mobs are dead constantly, this really becomes a non-issue.

Like if Early Cuyler bought his Sunday liquor on Saturday. (+10 points if you get the reference.)

[purist]

What does "camping guards" etiquette have to do w/ my Defense of West Freeport thread? Nothing. Training had nothing to do with who had rights to what, and if I got banned I deserved it and don't dispute it. So yes, I can still have an opinion whether you like it or not.

Also, it "takes some cheek" for you to lecture me on anything, considering I sold you a Ghoulbane as soon as it dropped, then you were going to try to bank it and camp the Lord and win it again (yep, Slee told me of your little plan). It's too bad you didn't know about the Lore rule on items, but then again you're quite the paragon of sportsmanship and in a position to lecture others aren't you :)

So basically, repeatedly training someone in Freeport who is minding their own business, killing guards for xp, then bragging about it and posting a how-to thread is kewl and acceptable.. but coming in killing Oggok guards without asking the person camping them first gets you a self-righteous wag of the finger from Kebbon for poor guard-camping etiquete. Oh, don't question Kebbon. He sold you a Ghoulbane. Shit, that's some powerful logic. No flaws in that argument at all.

[frefaln]

Just admit it dude, you were trying to be self-righteous and I called you out for trying to scam a Lord group. It's embarrassing but you'll get over it. Oh, and I wasn't "bragging" about anything, someone asked what happened to Kebbon and I told him. And, from what I recall, you were laughing it up in the EC tunnel. Don't pretend that you're all high and mighty, I know better.

[purist]

Just admit it dude, you were trying to be self-righteous and I called you out

lol, projecting

[Lazortag]

The real problem here is that some clarification is needed on the camp rules. The highkeep basement is a great example of a place where it's not clear how many camps are there. I would say there's only one camp because a group could reasonably hold it all and be close enough to the mobs to engage them in a timely manner. However, who's to say that the basement isn't actually divided into two, three, four or five camps?

Normally this would be a non-issue because if you divided up the highkeep basement (or really any camp) between two full groups, neither group would get adequate experience, and so no group would have an incentive to come in and lay claim to either part of the basement when a group is already established there. However, the situation we have here is one where nerds like Quitis don't care about what's more lucrative overall, they just care about getting a little bit of inefficient experience at another group's expense.

Game-theoretically, this scenario looks kind of like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

[Quitis]

Not my fault guard respawn got nerfed yo. Blame the game not the player.

[Quitis]

Game-theoretically, this scenario looks kind of like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

You're seriously comparing THAT to a fucking video game that has permently respawning "resources" that can never be depleted or changed in anyway? Apples and oranges yo.

So they get "less" xp per "round" of pops. That was still all they were entitled to under a "Share with other players" environment, to begin with. They need to be Happy with the little bit of time they had alone in the zone, and Satisfied with what they are entitled to when they are reduced to the one camp. Thats called SHARING. And btw, sharing IS CLASSIC.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I know I can't stand people who try and find loopholes or play the "I engaged it first" crap. While I believe that rule should exist, people will come and sit right under your spawn, right on the mobs spawn point, so it aggros them first. For example, you are sitting at the AC in oot. 3 hours go by. Someone comes over, sits down at its spawn point.

Are you seriously going to try and say "it aggroed me first'.....

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I think the rules are fine, the only clarification, or perhaps reinforcement needed is the PLAY NICE. If you're acting like a wanker trying to abuse the rules, well.

[Lazortag]

You're seriously comparing THAT to a fucking video game that has permently respawning "resources" that can never be depleted or changed in anyway? Apples and oranges yo.

blah blah blah

Anyone who knows anything about game theory would compare the situation I described to a 'tragedy of the commons'. You're just a nitpicky bitch.

[President]

The change that should go into the camp rules is very simple, when there is no item/boss in question, if you can clear it, and you were there first, it's yours.

So they get "less" xp per "round" of pops. That was still all they were entitled to under a "Share with other players" environment, to begin with. They need to be Happy with the little bit of time they had alone in the zone, and Satisfied with what they are entitled to when they are reduced to the one camp. Thats called SHARING. And btw, sharing IS CLASSIC.

No matter how much you try to defend yourself you are still a fucktard.

[Quitis]

And you're a troll who wants to rock the boat instead of go with the flow. People like you get fired from jobs, expelled from school, kicked out of the military, banned from internet services and ultimately lead lonely lives, under bridges, picking on little goats.

[frefaln]

And you're a troll who wants to rock the boat instead of go with the flow. People like you get fired from jobs, expelled from school, kicked out of the military, banned from internet services and ultimately lead lonely lives, under bridges, picking on little goats.

Any time the human race has made any progress — socially or technologically — it was the result of someone rocking the boat and having the ability to discern when rigid rules should (or should not) apply.

It does not surprise me that you're nowhere near that level of discernment.

[President]

And you're a troll who wants to rock the boat instead of go with the flow. People like you get fired from jobs, expelled from school, kicked out of the military, banned from internet services and ultimately lead lonely lives, under bridges, picking on little goats.

Good one buddy, wonder why management keeps promoting me so much, strange.

Keep it up, really doing a good job making yourself look retarded.

[azeth]

Quitis ranting is in response to my original derailment regarding Oggok Guards, here's the thing (fyi Quitis we both know we don't know each other and I have no interest in being a dickhead here) -

1. Meepo and Kashi enter Oggok, it is completely vacant. There are 10 Guards, 7 standing, 3 roaming.
- 4 Stand together, 1 Stands alone, 2 Stand together about a 10 second run from the 4 pack
- 2 Roam near the 4 pack, 2 roam near the 2 pack

2. Meepo and Kashi kill all but 1 roaming guard (due to pet pathing taking FOREVER to find Meepo), then head back to the ent to await 4 pack repop.

3. Quitis zones in, runs through Meepo and Kashi... 5-10 minutes go by and repops are imminent and Quitis is still in zone. Kash /tells Quitis and politely (even Quitis I'm sure can't agrue that) that the guards are being killed.

4. This is the tricky part Quitis has decided to use an interpretation of the rules to his advantage. Because 4 Guards (2 standing, 2 roaming) are a short run from where Meepo and Kashi are currently sitting, Quitis claims that is a "SECOND CAMP". Now as stated above, there are TEN TOTAL mobs in the zone... and apparently FOUR of the TEN (yes folks that 10, TEN, as in 1 after 9) are a different camp.

5. Kashi protests, but understands Quitis is protected a literal rule, though be it to his advantage.

6. The issue Really man? We're levels 36 and 37 and you took 4 out of our 10 mobs so you (lvl 48) can beat down some Light Blues while your LFG tag is up? I mean, REALLY?

[azeth]

i have some grammar errors above and it makes me wanna slam my head into my desk, so now you're aware that I'm aware.

[Straif]

As for all of you that support zone wide camping like those two asshats, go read the rules again, and FUCK YOU.

Why so angry brah?

[Hive]

We're levels 36 and 37 and you took 4 out of our 10 mobs so you (lvl 48) can beat down some Light Blues while your LFG tag is up? I mean, REALLY?

I had some other shit typed out but instead LOL.

[Mistpaw]

"I was here first, so I have the right to farm the entire zone." is a greedy statement.

" I know I just got here and see that you're effectively pulling the entire zone but I have the rules on my side so I'm going to start pulling the mobs you don't pounce on immediately." is technically in line with the rules but quite douchey.

The way I look at it is this:

Static mobs are a camp.
Roaming mobs are FFA.
If you are taking down multiple camps you aren't camping, you are farming.
If another person or group arrives and sits in front of one of the spawn points then they have the right to that camp and it's up to the two groups or individuals to COMMUNICATE and work out the rest.

Check your egos at the door.
Can the Highschool 'tudes.
Dont' steal camps and don't hog entire zones.

[President]

"I was here first, so I have the right to farm the entire zone." is a greedy statement.

" I know I just got here and see that you're effectively pulling the entire zone but I have the rules on my side so I'm going to start pulling the mobs you don't pounce on immediately." is technically in line with the rules but quite douchey.

The way I look at it is this:

Static mobs are a camp.
Roaming mobs are FFA.
If you are taking down multiple camps you aren't camping, you are farming.
If another person or group arrives and sits in front of one of the spawn points then they have the right to that camp and it's up to the two groups or individuals to COMMUNICATE and work out the rest.

Check your egos at the door.
Can the Highschool 'tudes.
Dont' steal camps and don't hog entire zones.

This is fairly crappy description when you are talking about 10 total mobs. Sure, this may be accurate when you are talking about the royals, window, entrance to Solb which a good royals group can clear all of.. but 10 mobs? give me a break.

[azeth]

Mistpaw i absolutely agree, but my first thought on reading your post (which mirrors Presidents comment above me) is that we're talking about 10 total mobs.

10

[yaaaflow]

Wow that guard nerf sounds brutal. I did 34-50 in oggok, usually with Jeremy being the only other person ever in the zone, and that still took a long time - I can only imagine it now with 20+min spawn times instead of 6m30s and way more competition.

I'm pretty sure I was killing more guards than the 10 you listed though, there is at least one more static guard in the caves by the pod, and one in the bank if you dont mind killing the banker too.

[azeth]

Yea once I get my 39/44 pets and am downing these quickly I'll be missing the old spawn rates, as for right now it's semi tight for the wife and I to kill the last one (Guard Mraang) and get back to the ent for Guard Scaar's pop.

[Quitis]

Btw, there's an 11th in the upper rooms of the shaman guild, for some reason it was green so I didn't bother punkin it. Oh and I never took the static in the shamman guild so you guys could have had 7 to my 3. How's that not fair considering i'm taking one of the camps. 2 of you get 7, 1 of me gets 3. That means per player you guys get more. Seems like awefully nice sharing to me.

[President]

Btw, there's an 11th in the upper rooms of the shaman guild, for some reason it was green so I didn't bother punkin it. Oh and I never took the static in the shamman guild so you guys could have had 7 to my 3. How's that not fair considering i'm taking one of the camps. 2 of you get 7, 1 of me gets 3. That means per player you guys get more. Seems like awefully nice sharing to me.

Sooo generous.. Guess there was just nowhere else in the game a level 48 enchanter could find to solo....

[Omnimorph]

It's a bit shitty to force someone to share an exp camp, the decent thing to do is to move on to somewhere else and ask them to let you know when they leave.

The only question would be whether fuses guards are 2 separate camps...

[Messianic]

I wonder why people think 10 available mobs comprises two camps. "Camping a whole zone" is a terrible distortion, given not all zones are equal. That's equating Lguk, Uguk, Kedge, etc all to Oggok, which has apparently 10 mobs.

If you think it's ok to be such a jerk that you'd reduce those 10 mobs (now on long respawn timers) to two camps, then welcome to garbage xp, and we'll share and have crappy exp together.

Maybe under the 6 min respawn timers - but not now.

[Overcast]

A Lot of times - I'll just agree to share the mobs.

Give the other one about 30 minutes and often they'll just slither off, leaving the camp for you again, because the XP was crappy.

It's kinda rare they will hang around - but some will.

[Olorin]

"ur an op typical mage"

Translation?

This was the best! A necro calling a mage overpowered ....

Pot, meet Kettle.