THE IRONING! OH DEAR GOD THE IRONING!

[Hasbinbad]

Ayn Rand producers beg for help from others on Kickstarter

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57604495-71/ayn-rand-producers-beg-for-help-from-others-on-kickstarter/

[Hasbinbad]

so many randerptarians on this forum, why are they all suddenly so quiet?

[Orruar]

Is Kickstarter funded by tax money now or something? Or is it perhaps you are completely ignorant of the ideals Rand espoused?

[Ghost of White Ranger]

so many randerptarians on this forum, why are they all suddenly so quiet?

It's just that your threads are such shit it tends to require two or three posts of you responding to yourself before pity edges out the embarassment of replying.

[Hasbinbad]

I, Orruar, am completely ignorant of the ideals Rand espoused.

[Hasbinbad]

Another terrible thread. 0/10
Go fuck yourself.
Another Randerptard. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!

[JayN]

ayn rand another poor misinformed joo, shes just another embarrassed impoverished millionaire.

I hope those shit heads kickstarter fails, the only people who would fund that would not be ayn rand supporters, pretty damn funny.

Surprised "small business owners" the koch brothers have not funded this purely for mis-information yet

[Hasbinbad]

pretty damn funny
JayN gets it.

[Orruar]

Since you're such an expert on Rand's work, perhaps you can explain Rand's discussion on the meaning of the word "sacrifice" and how it applies here.

[Recycled Children]

It's just that your threads are such shit it tends to require two or three posts of you responding to yourself before pity edges out the embarassment of replying.

You're my new favorite poster.

Is Kickstarter funded by tax money now or something? Or is it perhaps you are completely ignorant of the ideals Rand espoused?

This. Do you have any concept of the Libertarian philosophy, Hasbinbad or do you just vomit what they tell you on NPR?

[Lune]

Ayn Rand is the single worst thing to happen to western thought since Plato and his goons took a steaming pile of shit on the early manifestations of the scientific method

[Recycled Children]

Ayn Rand is the single worst thing to happen to western thought since Plato and his goons took a steaming pile of shit on the early manifestations of the scientific method

Who is the best?

[Lune]

Who is the best?

No idea. It's significantly more difficult to pinpoint the best, because you're picking from a cadre of legitimate and brilliant thinkers who built upon each others work.

Not dumbfuck little sperg fraud novelists who left a shit smear on political philosophy.

[Hasbinbad]

idk man freud was pretty fucking bad.

[Hasbinbad]

and also is more insinuated into larger society, whereas randerptarians can usually be recognized easily and avoided

[Recycled Children]

Being in favor of socialism makes you a bad person.

[Hastley]

What a l

[Hastley]

What a lonely miserable life you must lead hasbinfat

[Lune]

Being in favor of socialism makes you a bad person.

You look like a moron saying that when every other developed country is far more socialist than we are, and also immensely more successful at everything other than military might.

[Recycled Children]

No idea. It's significantly more difficult to pinpoint the best, because you're picking from a cadre of legitimate and brilliant thinkers who built upon each others work.

Not dumbfuck little sperg fraud novelists who left a shit smear on political philosophy.

It's significantly much easier to slander ideas without backing it up with evidence than to actually slander ideas backing it up with evidence.

[runlvlzero]

You're my new favorite poster.



This. Do you have any concept of the Libertarian philosophy, Hasbinbad or do you just vomit what they tell you on NPR?

[Daldolma]

You look like a moron saying that when every other developed country is far more socialist than we are, and also immensely more successful at everything other than military might.

wat

[Recycled Children]

You look like a moron saying that when every other developed country is far more socialist than we are, and also immensely more successful at everything other than military might.

Socialism is still inherently wrong no matter what. But please go ahead and make the argument for how stealing money is not morally wrong.

[Lune]

Yea I'm not going to argue about Rand with randroids, just wanted to state my opinion. You fuckers are worse than fundamentalist Christians about your dogmatic belief in institutionalized retardation. I would sincerely rather listen to communists, anarchists, and fascists.

[Hasbinbad]

make the argument for how stealing money is not morally wrong.
money is morally wrong.

[Hasbinbad]

property is theft.

[runlvlzero]

Rand is hardly a model libertarian. I don't know why you have to stereotype all libertarians as extreme fundamentalists.

However your beloved Obama, Mccain, Clinton, Reagon, Gore, basically everyone since JFK was shot have been raging extremists even if they platformed as moderates.

[runlvlzero]

Money is a tool. Its how we allow it to be abused and used and maintained in the way we do that causes it to be evil. If it was a contract between one person and another, it would work like an IOU and be completely morally fair.

[Hasbinbad]

libertarians are anarchists with pet peeves

statists and non-statists equally despise the minarchist randerptarian.

[Hasbinbad]

we allow
lol you're fucking dumb.

[runlvlzero]

Negative we are not anarchists. At all.

[Rellapse35]

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5900/ogre3961048.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5900/ogre3961048.jpg

[runlvlzero]

Yes we allow it by perpetuating the U.S. Department of Treasury and not printing our own money and controlling it directly our selves.

Instead we allow our money to be abstractly dictated by 3rd parties far removed from us.

[runlvlzero]

We do not need national or global oversight of currencies. It worked in the past having many different kinds. We could have different currency in every single municipality.

[Recycled Children]

property is theft.

You are the worst troll.

[Daldolma]

every other developed country is far more socialist than we are, and also immensely more successful at everything

wat

[runlvlzero]

It would further buffer banks controlling and dominating a single currency through buying up stock and resources making the game much harder to play. Not impossible. But the overall affect would be minimized by not having a global currency such as the US Dollar.

Lincon got killed for wanting to print his own currency. Not over slavery.

[Lune]

wat

Learn about the outside world, most Europeans countries are better off in p much every way.

[Recycled Children]

Why do I take you liberals seriously? The foundation of your political arguments are reactionary and unfounded.

[runlvlzero]

Learn about the outside world, most Europeans countries are better off in p much every way.

Would agree in many ways they are. However, not sure if I would want to put up with living in a place like france. Purtugal sure if i had a job. Sweden sure, Germany... 50/50.

Britain, omfg hell no, but ide go visit to see the historical stuff... Ireland yeah.

[Hasbinbad]

You are the worst troll.
Dude. Property is theft.

If you disagree, you're welcome to attempt to mount an argument against it, but many have tried who are _way_ smarter than you and have all failed.

Good luck.

[Daldolma]

every developed

most Europeans

wat

[Recycled Children]

Dude. Property is theft.

If you disagree, you're welcome to attempt to mount an argument against it, but many have tried who are _way_ smarter than you and have all failed.

Good luck.

I own my body. It's my private property. Property is theft. I've stolen myself.

[Recycled Children]

Learn about the outside world, most Europeans countries are better off in p much every way.

Are you completely ignorant to global economics? Europe's economy has been in the shitter for awhile. Jeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzus.

[Hasbinbad]

I own my body. It's my private property. Property is theft. I've stolen myself.
You're using words colloquially, inaccurately, and imprecisely. If you'd like to have a real discussion, please try and use phrases which are meaningful.

[Recycled Children]

You're using words colloquially, inaccurately, and imprecisely. If you'd like to have a real discussion, please try and use phrases which are meaningful.

What this really means is I totally trumped your stupid fucking argument and you're running away because you're way to embarrassed to even bring it back up.

[Hasbinbad]

No, I'm here, waiting for you to fall on your face arguing against the assertion that property is theft.

I'm not running. I'm standing right here in the open.

You're the one trying to cover up your ignorance with nonsensical rhetoric.

[runlvlzero]

Libertarians have no need to mandate property =)

Property is that which you can defend and hold on to as yours hahahahaha.

[Recycled Children]

"Property is theft" is an oxymoron.

[runlvlzero]

Socialism is just a means of extending that reach of what is yours by government force. Or communal force in the cases of small communes without government.

[Rellapse35]

I'm not running. I'm standing right here in the open.



You need to be changing those bed pans and giving my grandma a bath. Male nurse scholar.

[runlvlzero]

Socialism also cannot exist without the idea of property. Fuck. There is no human system outside of tribal that allows for propertyless societies.

[kylok]

I own my body. It's my private property. Property is theft. I've stolen myself.

You don't own your body - if you did suicide would be legal. In fact, the statement "I own my body" is a libertarian one as it implies that you have the right to do what you wish with your body. I know I'm just feeding trolls but meh, I've got another hour before class.

[Rellapse35]

HBB need this asap

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide

[Recycled Children]

You don't own your body - if you did suicide would be legal. In fact, the statement "I own my body" is a libertarian one as it implies that you have the right to do what you wish with your body. I know I'm just feeding trolls but meh, I've got another hour before class.

Suicide is legal. Try it out.

[Rellapse35]

Suicide is legal. Try it out.

lolol

[Daldolma]

hbb thinks he's winning arguments in this thread but i just won back 5 continents and a minority of europe with the word 'wat'

[runlvlzero]

Pretty sure he got stomped into political oblivion. I have a feeling he knows he is just being a smartass which is kinda sad. Because if hey got off his every political ideology is wrong pulpit he would see that they all have valid points and look at many of the same issues from different perspectives.

[Lune]

hbb thinks he's winning arguments in this thread but i just won back 5 continents and a minority of europe with the word 'wat'

You pointed out where I used an inaccurate word. You didn't do shit or prove anything beyond that. Congratulations!

[Daldolma]

You pointed out where I used an inaccurate word. You didn't do shit or prove anything beyond that. Congratulations!

thank you sir and god bless america

[Estolcles]

A lot of this thread is why I voted for Bill Murray last presidential election, am gonna vote for him in the Govenor election in November, and will probably vote for him again in the next presidential election (unless one of the parties brings out a person I actually could have faith in to run this country).

[Hasbinbad]

hbb thinks he's winning arguments in this thread but i just won back 5 continents and a minority of europe with the word 'wat'
would YOU care to take up where they .... em, "left off?"

You always have clear, if novel, points of view.

[Hasbinbad]

And I'm sure you could make THEIR arguments for them much more succinctly than they could.

They are still at the "ur dum oxymoran" stage..

[Hasbinbad]

let's move this along.

[Hasbinbad]

I do not know what a pity reply is or when it should be used.

[JayN]

got damd morans

[Recycled Children]

And I'm sure you could make THEIR arguments for them much more succinctly than they could.

They are still at the "ur dum oxymoran" stage..

Quit trying to take the high road like you made any kind of point in this thread. Everyone who came in here destroyed the point of this thread then destroyed all your political arguments after.

You lost geek. At least man the fuck up and admit it. Your smug attitude is unwarranted.

[Hasbinbad]

He said, still completely ignoring the challenge laid before him.

[Recycled Children]

He said, still completely ignoring the challenge laid before him.

What challenge?

[runlvlzero]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/images/kim-jong-il_portrait.jpg

Nothing against Koreans. But the hairdo/outfit is very hasbinesque.

[runlvlzero]

I think Kim Joung Il is actually pretty progressive as well for a North Korean Dictator. Only time will tell.

[Daldolma]

would YOU care to take up where they .... em, "left off?"

You always have clear, if novel, points of view.

in an argument over whether property is theft or not?

sure.

it's self-defeating. theft is only possible insofar as there is property. if property is impossible without theft, then theft is impossible

that's what you get for borrowing your anarchism from the french

[kenzar]

in an argument over whether property is theft or not?

sure.

it's self-defeating. theft is only possible insofar as there is property. if property is impossible without theft, then theft is impossible

that's what you get for borrowing your anarchism from the french

almost there...so close...keep thinking

[Daldolma]

almost there...so close...keep thinking

i do not abide 'almost'

you may revise your thoughts to fit my correct response

[Hasbinbad]

in an argument over whether property is theft or not?

sure.

it's self-defeating. theft is only possible insofar as there is property. if property is impossible without theft, then theft is impossible

that's what you get for borrowing your anarchism from the french
You're defining property differently than intended, and you know it. Possessions and use of space =/= property.

[runlvlzero]

Something is either the property of a Dictator, Community, Individual, or No one.

In a military. Everything belongs to the institution and people with "Rank" (Meritocracy) Determine the allocation of that property for mission uses.

[runlvlzero]

This even bleeds into the territory of "Secrets".

[runlvlzero]

In some societies individuals are allowed to acquire property. In some only institutions. In America we have a fair mixture. (The government is Socialist), while individuals are libertarian, and corporations are somewhere in between.

Property is whatever we define it to be. It can be information if the laws we create make it so.

[Deadmantis]

A lot of this thread is why I voted for Bill Murray last presidential election, am gonna vote for him in the Govenor election in November, and will probably vote for him again in the next presidential election (unless one of the parties brings out a person I actually could have faith in to run this country).

http://25.media.tumblr.com/103bcc7ffdd1826e6e9181502e8f4c93/tumblr_mqjc5fvIV11qj4q4do1_500.jpg

bong bong. Bill Fuckin Murray

[Rellapse35]

hbb's vast knowledge of socialism and economics is truly astounding. that associate's degree has really made u a force to be reckoned with.

[Ahldagor]

hbb's vast knowledge of socialism and economics is truly astounding. that associate's degree has really made u a force to be reckoned with.

smartest thing said in the whole thread.
second is the comment about Plato earlier on.

if they get the support they need to do the movie then good for them. the movie will likely flop anyway. other than hbb posting shit again, why care? property rights and human rights blah blah blah didn't stop Hitler

[JayN]

Something is either the property of a Dictator, Community, Individual, or No one.

In a military. Everything belongs to the institution and people with "Rank" (Meritocracy) Determine the allocation of that property for mission uses.

Pretty crazy how zionist agents of the bush family CIA out rank the highest of highest ranked military ahhh thats too bad.

[runlvlzero]

You are all clueless of the real economics and what truly goes on. All you learn is what the government wants you to know in their government business buildings known as school. Dumb as a bag of hair.

Some of us try. Even if we fail constantly. Enlighten us. Or tell us were wrong and point us in the right direction (Links?). But not all of us are stupid.

[runlvlzero]

Pretty crazy how zionist agents of the bush family CIA out rank the highest of highest ranked military ahhh thats too bad.

Well someone needs to won the military :p

[runlvlzero]

*own, not won

[r00t]

Yea I'm not going to argue about Rand with randroids, just wanted to state my opinion. You fuckers are worse than fundamentalist Christians about your dogmatic belief in institutionalized retardation. I would sincerely rather listen to communists, anarchists, and fascists.

haha I knew this was Hitchens

[Hasbinbad]

haha I knew this was Hitchens
hasbeenfat didn't give it away?

[r00t]

I was asked by irc to provide better proof of my suspicious. Randroids and bleeding heart atheism was the dead giveaway

[Rzaa]

Any grown man that identifies with that whiny mongrel's bitch-fit-on-paper needs help.

[Raavak]

so many randerptarians on this forum, why are they all suddenly so quiet?Cuz yor cunfarmed dum.

[Hasbinbad]

Cuz yor cunfarmed dum.
Yes well if this is truly the reason, then how do you explain them incessantly jabbering between oct 2009 and now?

[Versch]

If you retards would've bothered to look into the actual project, you would've seen that the whole Kickstarter thing is just a publicity stunt.

The film makers already have $10 million to make the movie with (this is the 3rd installment, the first 2 were made on a $20M budget and were huge flops), the $250,000 they are asking for on Kickstarter is all but meaningless.

The market has firmly rejected these movies, but that won't stop these tards from pouring more funds into it.

[Raavak]

The one thing is unrelated to the other.

[Raavak]

Just read the book.

Even the Dune movie didn't work out, and that is one of the greatest sci-fi novels of all time.

[Hasbinbad]

Who is Derp Galt?

[r00t]

havent read any ayn rand cuz I dont give a fuck