View Full Version : Tmo caught exploting on Twtich.
Rellapse29
09-16-2013, 02:36 PM
There has been a big trend on the server of folks of abusing IP exemptions to avoid camping; instantly loading into another character. This not only allows them to mobilize faster than the majority of the server who has integrity, but it also gives them an advantage in regards to time never having to camp and just instant tabbing to another client to load right in seconds after /qing.
This stuff needs to stop it is not classic. You can even watch guys on their streams doing it. Sirken you said in the open twitch forum you will remove IP exemptions if evidence is provided or GM's witness people doing this. We need some justice for the people who play the game fairly.
Seeking justice for the honest rule abiding majority.
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heals4reals
09-16-2013, 02:47 PM
What?
bizzum
09-16-2013, 02:53 PM
Oh, 10DKP for Soulfires! Count me in!
Also your time for Fay is off!
Hasbinbad
09-16-2013, 02:54 PM
ORLY, THE GUISE WHO HAVE BEEN EXPLOITING OPENLY SINCE PHINNY ARE OPENLY EXPLOITING?!?!?
Alarti0001
09-16-2013, 03:01 PM
ORLY, THE GUISE WHO HAVE BEEN EXPLOITING OPENLY SINCE PHINNY ARE OPENLY EXPLOITING?!?!?
Harry? are you back?
Still looking for this "proof" jealous doesn't suit you faggots well, QQ moar maggotry!
Apeople
09-16-2013, 03:12 PM
Still looking for this "proof" jealous doesn't suit you faggots well, QQ moar maggotry!
People who say "faggot" in every one of their posts are probably gay themselves, but hate themselves for it, so use the word "faggot". But it's ok to be yourself jayn, we wont think any less of you.
People who say "faggot" in every one of their posts are probably gay themselves, but hate themselves for it, so use the word "faggot". But it's ok to be yourself jayn, we wont think any less of you.
for you and your guild enjoy
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=happier%20than%20a%20sissy%20with% 20a%20bag%20full%20of%20dicks
Swifty
09-16-2013, 03:16 PM
Suspend the whole guild! See you in two weeks TMO
Apeople
09-16-2013, 03:17 PM
It's ok Jayn /hug jesus loves ya.
Heebo
09-16-2013, 03:31 PM
Oh, 10DKP for Soulfires! Count me in!
Also your time for Fay is off!
If you can't get kill dragons you're going to need some other way to give out Dragon Kill Points.
Tiggles
09-16-2013, 04:07 PM
Jeremy is a cheating scumbag but I don't have an IP exemption.
Alarti0001
09-16-2013, 05:33 PM
Curious of how your pics show any form of exploitation?
Frogie305
09-16-2013, 05:38 PM
server chat thread got locked more proof GM's are in Tmo's pocket how much that cost ya per month?
We pay them with real marshmellow trade, we supply Rogean with so much smores that he just gives us loot. And Sirken only accepts peeps for some reason, that sick bastard always wants yellow. http://bigsislilsis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/peeps1.jpg
We pay them with real marshmellow trade, we supply Rogean with so much smores that he just gives us loot. And Sirken only accepts peeps for some reason, that sick bastard always wants yellow. http://bigsislilsis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/peeps1.jpg
roflmfao
the truth is out!
quido
09-16-2013, 06:26 PM
A good chunk of my /played is Glitterati helping me do things. She's the best =) We/I get accused of boxing on an almost daily basis since she's my go-to assistant when it comes to things like PL, rezzes, whatever. I wouldn't have 6x sixties if it wasn't for her, too! But TMO will tell you how annoying I can be when she's not around - I spam guild chat incessantly for assistance that involves logging one of my characters.
I've used exemptions legitimately for years. It's pretty clear that I'm immersed - I try to get my friends to play, and I'm friends with people that play. I follow the rules and have a bit too much to lose if I were to press my luck, so I don't. I have always been honest and forthcoming with the staff. If they said "don't fast switch" I would gladly follow their rules and expect others to as well. I guess I just kind of did it (and so do hundreds of other people) and didn't really think about it because it takes so damn long to load anyways. I'm about to pitch playing to my new roommate, haha. He plays some shitty Simpsons game on his iPad and has been watching me play EQ while we hang out. He seems to have a lot of good questions about how the game works, so I'm hoping he's cut out for this! Or at least cut out for logging on my cleric and helping me out =)
Anyways, I'm about to do some load tests over my stream! I currently use a 2-year-old Solid State Drive that is considerably slower than it used to be, but I have a primitive RAMDrive installed on my desktop here so let's compare the load times.
Come check it out http://twitch.tv/Jeremyp99
quido
09-16-2013, 06:26 PM
How else do you get 3000+ days played on a 4 year old server?
lol, funny how many people actually believed that =)
Alarti0001
09-16-2013, 06:34 PM
Obviously he did something wrong, Jeremy just admitted in tiggles stream that they toke all his IP exemptions away, they dont do that if u r innocent.
Unless its bisch making decisions.
quido
09-16-2013, 06:48 PM
Ambrotos is my friend.
Apeople
09-16-2013, 06:56 PM
Alarti says "Prove it".. after Jeremy said, "Did it". Golf clap.
quido
09-16-2013, 07:00 PM
Alarti didn't say "prove it" ya moran. He said "selective enforcement."
Apeople
09-16-2013, 07:13 PM
Curious of how your pics show any form of exploitation?
Essentially = prove it.
Hasbinbad
09-16-2013, 07:17 PM
ORLY, THE GUISE WHO HAVE BEEN EXPLOITING OPENLY SINCE PHINNY ARE OPENLY EXPLOITING?!?!?
Harry? are you back?
I guess I just kind of did it.
Alarti0001
09-16-2013, 07:17 PM
Essentially = prove it.
I said Prove it, Jeremy proved it. Why are you so dumb.
However, the problem of fast switch is for PVE situations... I don't see how Fast switching to a trader provides Jeremy with any PvE advantage.
Unless FE is after his nuts because they somehow think that Jeremy Trader alt somehow prevents FE from getting targets?
Hasbinbad
09-16-2013, 07:18 PM
account fast-switching now officially endorsed by staff
Alarti0001
09-16-2013, 07:18 PM
Dummy
Nothing you said proved exploitation in the past... Degenerative brain disorder?
Hasbinbad
09-16-2013, 07:18 PM
Be sure to remember that account fast-switching is no longer exploiting.
Nuggie
09-16-2013, 07:24 PM
Fast switching = poofing?
I'm a rookie when it comes to rules lawyering and exploiting.
Didn't someone say poofing isn't acceptable? Rogean maybe?
Didn't ambrotos just post in the other thread that IP exemptions are only to be used under certain circumstances? Like what they are meant for. Multiple people playing from the same IP?
Wouldn't falsifying an IP exemption request be grounds for removing it? Or something worse?
Someone explain to me. Thx
Alarti0001
09-16-2013, 07:29 PM
Be sure to remember that account fast-switching is no longer exploiting.
You have to "exploit" something. What are you exploiting exactly by switching to a trader alt. Please do tell.
kenzar
09-16-2013, 07:31 PM
You have to "exploit" something. What are you exploiting exactly by switching to a trader alt. Please do tell.
Exploiting the use of IP exemptions without regard to if it was advantageous is still an exploit afaik.
Motec
09-16-2013, 07:42 PM
Just remove all existing IP exemptions and have people apply for them on a case by case.
Alarti0001
09-16-2013, 07:45 PM
Exploiting the use of IP exemptions without regard to if it was advantageous is still an exploit afaik.
Exploiting an IP exemption would include 2 boxing or using it for some pve advantage. Don't see either here.
kenzar
09-16-2013, 07:46 PM
Just remove all existing IP exemptions and have people apply for them on a case by case.
Draconic, blanket rule-changes will only make more work for volunteers (read: server staff) that already devote A LOT of their spare time already. And besides, isn't that the default system we've had in place for years? No one's account comes with an existing exemption, everyone applies on a case by case basis already.
kenzar
09-16-2013, 07:49 PM
Exploiting an IP exemption would include 2 boxing or using it for some pve advantage. Don't see either here.
Applying for an IP exemption and then using it to fast switch EVEN ONCE is using the exemption in an exploitative manner. Exemptions are there so multiple people can play on the same router. Using them in any manner other than the aforementioned intended use is an exploitation of the exemption status regardless of whether or not the use was advantageous in a PVE/whatever situation.
Citation: You ask for IP exempts so other people can play. Not to fast switch and has been put out in the past. It is even stated as to why you are getting your IP exempt.
quido
09-16-2013, 07:56 PM
I mean I'm gonna /q almost every time still no matter what. I don't like going back to character select - it's an extra load and it's prone to crashing. I don't think the fast switch is something that has really been commented on from the staff before except to say it's not a grounds for an exemption. I got a few exemptions added when I was hanging out with Sloan regularly and we got locked out from traders/alts randomly because only our primary characters had exemptions. I don't think anyone thought it was such an issue until you had a high-profile target to demonize lol. I camp when I have aggro or am liable to get aggro soon, and I /quit otherwise. The fact that it takes me almost a minute to fully load seems delay enough.
Arteker
09-16-2013, 07:59 PM
and?
Are you mad he does not accept Tmo payments?
i dont know if he accept it but every time i see ur new gif i only can think about when u got drunk and moaned bitched about back people.
pherhaps the gif may explain u got a nice big black sausage so deep inside you than since the guy pulled it out u have feel so empty u hate everyone.
dont worry man contact me in game i will fixt ur sexual problems everyone in tmo can tell you even if im in esl troubles im a genous fixing sexual problems.
if i can fixt chest micro penis problem i will fixt you to,
kenzar
09-16-2013, 08:03 PM
I mean I'm gonna /q almost every time still no matter what. I don't like going back to character select - it's an extra load and it's prone to crashing. I don't think the fast switch is something that has really been commented on from the staff before except to say it's not a grounds for an exemption. I got a few exemptions added when I was hanging out with Sloan regularly and we got locked out from traders/alts randomly because only our primary characters had exemptions. I don't think anyone thought it was such an issue until you had a high-profile target to demonize lol. I camp when I have aggro or am liable to get aggro soon, and I /quit otherwise. The fact that it takes me almost a minute to fully load seems delay enough.
If you didn't have the exemption, you wouldn't be able to utilize /q in such an advantageous manner. And since you weren't using the exemption in the intended form (multiple people per client) it was a misuse of the exemption status. Now, if you were to lose your exemptions, I bet you'd use '/camp' just like any other plebian.
kenzar
09-16-2013, 08:04 PM
(multiple people per router)
fixed, sorry
quido
09-16-2013, 08:06 PM
So how long do you have to wait for it to be legit? Tons of people have legitimate exemptions and constantly fast-switch - I see it all the time. How long must one wait to not be "exploiting" when eventually logging on their trader 55 seconds after /quitting on their main? Should a person break out a stopwatch and wait at least 25 seconds before they start typing? I've seen people who load in a total of 30 seconds and less. If I really wanted faster loads I could just break out the RAM-Drive.
I'll eventually get my exemptions back - I will eventually need them. And I guess I'll just camp then to be beyond reproach, but I don't know, it's kind of stupid that this is an issue. I don't box, I don't poof.
quido
09-16-2013, 08:07 PM
If you didn't have the exemption, you wouldn't be able to utilize /q in such an advantageous manner. And since you weren't using the exemption in the intended form (multiple people per client) it was a misuse of the exemption status. Now, if you were to lose your exemptions, I bet you'd use '/camp' just like any other plebian.
I do legitimately use my exemptions, just not every day.
Susano
09-16-2013, 08:11 PM
Exploiting an IP exemption would include 2 boxing or using it for some pve advantage. Don't see either here.
You are really retarded. IP exemptions are given for ONE reason, multiple people playing from one IP. Any use of the IP exemption other than multiple people playing simultaneously is an exploit.
I believe they should be removed completely since, as Jeremy just pointed out, even if you have one legitimately you still gain an advantage by /quit'ing and logging in.
Have two people in one house wanting to play? Ah well, find another game. Thank all the rampant cheaters for abusing everything they can.
kenzar
09-16-2013, 08:12 PM
So how long do you have to wait for it to be legit? Tons of people have legitimate exemptions and constantly fast-switch - I see it all the time. How long must one wait to not be "exploiting" when eventually logging on their trader 55 seconds after /quitting on their main?
I'll eventually get my exemptions back - I will eventually need them. And I guess I'll just camp then to be beyond reproach
Sort of answered your own question huh. You use the /camp function as it is intended to be used. And if you dont like the chance of crashing you can always use '/camp server' to alleviate the possible crash at character select. Besides if you /camp server you will have no lockout even w/o an exemption and can log in any of your other toons as normal.
kenzar
09-16-2013, 08:14 PM
I do legitimately use my exemptions, just not every day.
Great, no one here is upset because you use your exemptions legitimately at all. Even if you used them legitmately 99.999% of the time, its still that .001% that is exploitative. Its 30sec, wtf is the big hurry anyway? It's such a small pause to have completely avoided all of this...
quido
09-16-2013, 08:18 PM
It's just more work and ultimately irrelevant. They could easily make it the same cooldown for everybody if that's how they wanted to enforce it. Nobody ever said "don't fast switch." And everybody does.
kenzar
09-16-2013, 08:25 PM
everybody does.
This is what your argument has degraded into; really?
30sec is not 'more work' and its definitely not 'irrelevant' (its kind of the whole point of this/other thread/s) its a pause that every other player has to deal with, and you aren't special. If the staff wanted everyone to be able to quick switch, everyone would have exemptions. As everyone doesn't have innate exemptions, and as Ambrotos/IP exemption request form already says, the exempt status is not to be used like this, it is for multiple people accessing the server through the same router.
quido
09-16-2013, 08:25 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/dtasters.jpg
I got solicited lol
quido
09-16-2013, 08:26 PM
This is what your argument has degraded into; really?
30sec is not 'more work' and its definitely not 'irrelevant' (its kind of the whole point of this/other thread/s) its a pause that every other player has to deal with, and you aren't special. If the staff wanted everyone to be able to quick switch, everyone would have exemptions. As everyone doesn't have innate exemptions, and as Ambrotos/IP exemption request form already says, the exempt status is not to be used like this, it is for multiple people accessing the server through the same router.
Hey look I'm not arguing, just discussing it. I'll go along with whatever happens, I just hope that there's fair enforcement of whatever they decide is the hard and fast rule regarding the fast switch.
Susano
09-16-2013, 08:27 PM
Its 30sec, wtf is the big hurry anyway?
30 seconds is the world to any raiding guild on this server. Every member of TMO knows this and will fight tooth and nail to get/retain an IP exemption regardless of their true need for one.
Find a way to add the 30 second lockout to IP exempt account or do one of the following:
1. Remove all IP exemptions.
2. Remove the 30 second lockout from all accounts.
3. Don't do shit and allow cheating shitcunts to ruin this server more and more every day.
I know which one the guys running this server will choose, do you?
quido
09-16-2013, 08:30 PM
Susano I've only ever wanted to ruin your experience under fair conditions.
Susano
09-16-2013, 08:31 PM
Susano I've only ever wanted to ruin your experience under fair conditions.
Need to roll up on some new games to ruin my experience.
Nuggie
09-16-2013, 08:32 PM
I do legitimately use my exemptions, just not every day.
So you do, already, have other people from the same IP playing on P99? That's the only legitimate reason to have an IP exemption. From how I understand the rules.
Also, it isn't irrelevant. If you are being called out by regular members(read: not your regular troll base) of the community there is an obvious problem. To the rest of us. Sorry if you don't see it that way.
Suspending/banning people for misuse of game functions is classic. Like on Lanys when Conquest got suspended for trying to use the bridge to keep their healers out of the line of fire of the AoE. They were accused of exploiting the Z axis.
Classic bans are classic. Especially when they are admitted to in a public forum.
quido
09-16-2013, 08:35 PM
I know enough about EQEmu to know how easy it would be to detect fast-switching in the logs. I bet I could write that script in one sitting.
Mezzmur
09-16-2013, 08:40 PM
I know enough about EQEmu to know how easy it would be to detect fast-switching in the logs. I bet I could write that script in one sitting.
Your IP and Computer ID are stored with every login, I would think this would be trivial as well.
goshozal
09-16-2013, 08:42 PM
I'll hold your fungi staff Jeremy while you're banned, quick give it to me before they get you!
Maksim - Enchanter
Maksimus - Monk
Maksimum - Bard
quido
09-16-2013, 08:42 PM
Lol nobody's getting banned you morans. Logging on a trader 30 seconds faster is irrelevent. I'm not saying it shouldn't be the same for everyone all the time - I think it should, but that's just not the world we're living in. It would be easy to provide that world 100%.
Estolcles
09-16-2013, 08:43 PM
Face it man, you're in the wrong. Just own it, shut up, and go about playing the game.
It's 30 seconds everyone has to deal with. DEAL WITH IT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
Tiggles
09-16-2013, 08:46 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/dtasters.jpg
I got solicited lol
did you buy it?
goshozal
09-16-2013, 08:47 PM
I use my extra 30 seconds to fap
kenzar
09-16-2013, 08:48 PM
Logging on a trader 30 seconds faster is irrelevent.
You keep saying that, but the existence of this thread and the thread commented on and then promptly locked by Ambrotos is evidence that is in fact, very relevant; even if you can't see why.
quido
09-16-2013, 08:50 PM
Logging on a raiding character is the relevant situation, ya moran.
Alarti0001
09-16-2013, 08:53 PM
You are really retarded. IP exemptions are given for ONE reason, multiple people playing from one IP. Any use of the IP exemption other than multiple people playing simultaneously is an exploit.
I believe they should be removed completely since, as Jeremy just pointed out, even if you have one legitimately you still gain an advantage by /quit'ing and logging in.
Have two people in one house wanting to play? Ah well, find another game. Thank all the rampant cheaters for abusing everything they can.
You are really retarded. Do you /q to switch characters I am sure many people do. Are you saying that if it is not providing a competitive advantage i.e. logging to a trader that anyone can not /q anymore?
I mean i know you are biased as fuck but it seems to have affected your cognitive ability.
Alarti0001
09-16-2013, 08:54 PM
30 seconds is the world to any raiding guild on this server. Every member of TMO knows this and will fight tooth and nail to get/retain an IP exemption regardless of their true need for one.
Find a way to add the 30 second lockout to IP exempt account or do one of the following:
1. Remove all IP exemptions.
2. Remove the 30 second lockout from all accounts.
3. Don't do shit and allow cheating shitcunts to ruin this server more and more every day.
I know which one the guys running this server will choose, do you?
You are really retarded. Do you /q to switch characters I am sure many people do. Are you saying that if it is not providing a competitive advantage i.e. logging to a trader that anyone can not /q anymore?
I mean i know you are biased as fuck but it seems to have affected your cognitive ability.
LOL OH I see... Explain to me how Jeremy logging to a trader alt helped a raiding guild.
Fuckign Moran
quido
09-16-2013, 08:57 PM
I also never knew about the /camp server option. Gonna give it a try!
Susano
09-16-2013, 09:02 PM
Do you /q to switch characters I am sure many people do. Are you saying that if it is not providing a competitive advantage i.e. logging to a trader that anyone can not /q anymore?
Does it hurt to be this dumb?
Acrux Bcrux
09-16-2013, 09:07 PM
I also never knew about the /camp server option. Gonna give it a try!
/camp desktop too brah
Acrux Bcrux
09-16-2013, 09:09 PM
/camp desktop to load next box closest thing to ip exemption quick switching, get on dattttt like da proz
Glitterati
09-16-2013, 09:16 PM
Motherfuckers so dum. Don't be mad I be dick-riding Jeremy. It's good dick.
Nuggie
09-16-2013, 09:18 PM
Ignorance is no excuse under the law. Need better lawyering.
Alarti, I don't recall anyone saying it helped TMO raid. This is a thread about Jeremy getting exposed for misuse of IP exemptions.
And finally. He already owned up to it. Let's move along. I would copy and paste his quote, my my skills on this damn BlackBerry Z10 are weak.
quido
09-16-2013, 09:24 PM
The only real reason to have a problem with fast-switching is the implication, that it's being used for time-sensitive raids.
Tiggles
09-16-2013, 09:28 PM
2 boxing Officer in TMO gets off clean is all I see in this thread.
You have a lot to learn when it comes to defaming other guilds.
kenzar
09-16-2013, 09:31 PM
The only real reason to have a problem with fast-switching is the implication, that it's being used for time-sensitive raids.
Iif a rule doesn't make sense than you shouldn't have to abide by it? Fast-switching is using an IP exemption for a purpose outside it's intended scope. That's the reason people have a problem with it. It being used during time-sensitive raids is troubling but still secondary to the original exploitation. You aren't special, you have to follow the rules just like everyone else. lol
quido
09-16-2013, 09:32 PM
Iif a rule doesn't make sense than you shouldn't have to abide by it? Fast-switching is using an IP exemption for a purpose outside it's intended scope. That's the reason people have a problem with it. It being used during time-sensitive raids is troubling but still secondary to the original exploitation. You aren't special, you have to follow the rules just like everyone else. lol
Stop putting words in my mouth you moran.
Arteker
09-16-2013, 09:34 PM
Fat bitch riding a Fat dudes cock how cute
oposite to ur riding into black hugue cocks deep in your trailer trash white ass:)
kenzar
09-16-2013, 09:37 PM
Stop putting words in my mouth you moran.
Stop trying to send red herrings in every direction and I wont have to put you back on path.
quido
09-16-2013, 09:39 PM
too much frothing from the shamed tribes
kenzar
09-16-2013, 09:42 PM
too much frothing from the shamed tribes
How does someone who has been banned for 2boxxing get an exemption anyway? I don't blame you for taking advantage Jeremy, that is the staff's fault; they know you cant take the temptation.
quido
09-16-2013, 09:45 PM
How does someone who has been banned for 2boxxing get an exemption anyway? I don't blame you for taking advantage Jeremy, that is the staff's fault; they know you cant take the temptation.
Where's the proof Kenzar?
I maintain that the fast-switch was a previously condoned perk of a legitimate IP exemption and that this is the first such instance of enforcement with regards to it.
Arteker
09-16-2013, 09:49 PM
was not sure if troll or retarded but this just confirmed retardation
you drink again so sad, remember when u drink u finish the nigth with hugue black cocks inside you, remember u used to say alot in guild chat alot times back in the day :p
Arteker
09-16-2013, 09:52 PM
sorry hard to understand retarded
dont worry im just trying to save ur ass again and again from evil cocks.
u so violent
quido
09-16-2013, 09:52 PM
I moved to a new place 3 weeks ago and a lot of people know it ya moran.
Ashintar
09-16-2013, 09:55 PM
For those of us not in the "know" does fast switching = poofing?
https://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103772
quido
09-16-2013, 09:55 PM
lol Relapsee sounds like you have some personal experience in that right
kenzar
09-16-2013, 09:55 PM
I maintain that the fast-switch was a previously condoned perk of a legitimate IP exemption and that this is the first such instance of enforcement with regards to it.
Where's the proof Jeremy?
quido
09-16-2013, 09:57 PM
Poofing isn't Fast Switching. Poofing is when you /quit and cause your character to be dropped from the game almost immediately. As far as I know, it is not possible to do this any more. When you fast switch, you log on another account, and the character you /quit from stays in the game the usual 30 seconds or whatever.
Freakish
09-16-2013, 09:58 PM
He's not instant poofing. His character is still vulnerable to attacks and can be killed, and if engaged by a mob will stay online for 3 minutes.
He can log on other accounts while his dude is fighting though.
Autotune
09-16-2013, 09:59 PM
Using IP exemptions to switch characters and not have to wait has been a common thing in raiding for years. Was hardly a secret back when I was playing, but after IB and VD left, I guess there really isn't any other seasoned raiders outside of TMO.
hatelore
09-16-2013, 09:59 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/dtasters.jpg
I got solicited lol
Lol. fuck him, dicktaters needs to be resurrected!
Autotune
09-16-2013, 10:04 PM
lawyer those rules what you're good at...deserves to be banned
No rule against using an IP exemption to fast switch.
quido
09-16-2013, 10:04 PM
He's not instant poofing. His character is still vulnerable to attacks and can be killed, and if engaged by a mob will stay online for 3 minutes.
He can log on other accounts while his dude is fighting though.
Yeah I always purposely avoided this possibility and camped when I had aggro. It's possible to log in another account and even buff your LD character, but I never did this either. I never split hairs over a few seconds and neither did the staff until today.
Alarti0001
09-16-2013, 10:11 PM
Poofing isn't Fast Switching. Poofing is when you /quit and cause your character to be dropped from the game almost immediately. As far as I know, it is not possible to do this any more. When you fast switch, you log on another account, and the character you /quit from stays in the game the usual 30 seconds or whatever.
Oh cool I had no idea... I dont have
ip exemptions :(
Fawqueue
09-16-2013, 10:12 PM
Requesting IP exemption because sometimes, maybe, I'll be at a buddy's house that plays or might take on a new roommate that I could convince to play EQ. Do it.
Hasbinbad
09-16-2013, 10:41 PM
You have to "exploit" something. What are you exploiting exactly by switching to a trader alt. Please do tell.
http://i.imgur.com/rLuQSl4.jpg
Hasbinbad
09-16-2013, 10:42 PM
wrong fucking link.. here
http://i.imgur.com/rLuQSl4.jpg
Estolcles
09-16-2013, 10:54 PM
wrong fucking link.. here
http://i.imgur.com/rLuQSl4.jpg
Yeah, but TMO doesn't have a pocket full of kryptonite.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 12:31 AM
http://i.imgur.com/rLuQSl4.jpg
didnt think so
Estolcles
09-17-2013, 12:34 AM
I suddenly want to listen to "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong" now.
spoils
09-17-2013, 02:00 AM
GM opinion?
At least there's been some revival in r&f this week...pras beavis!
spoils
09-17-2013, 02:01 AM
Oh yea wait a min...Jeremy=rogean...durrrrr
Godefroi
09-17-2013, 04:00 AM
well Jeremy got caught 2 boxing it's not really a surprises that he abuses of his IP exemptions lol.
Let the boy play with his toys, you badies.
quido
09-17-2013, 04:02 AM
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/jeremyhorse.jpg
Hasbinbad
09-17-2013, 04:10 AM
I suddenly want to listen to "Alarti" now.
Clark
09-17-2013, 04:57 AM
You are really retarded. IP exemptions are given for ONE reason, multiple people playing from one IP. Any use of the IP exemption other than multiple people playing simultaneously is an exploit.
I believe they should be removed completely since, as Jeremy just pointed out, even if you have one legitimately you still gain an advantage by /quit'ing and logging in.
Have two people in one house wanting to play? Ah well, find another game. Thank all the rampant cheaters for abusing everything they can.
Clark
09-17-2013, 04:59 AM
This is what your argument has degraded into; really?
30sec is not 'more work' and its definitely not 'irrelevant' (its kind of the whole point of this/other thread/s) its a pause that every other player has to deal with, and you aren't special. If the staff wanted everyone to be able to quick switch, everyone would have exemptions. As everyone doesn't have innate exemptions, and as Ambrotos/IP exemption request form already says, the exempt status is not to be used like this, it is for multiple people accessing the server through the same router.
quido
09-17-2013, 05:08 AM
Shouldn't you be getting a Soulfire?
abbud
09-17-2013, 05:39 AM
Suspension + removed IP-exemption, only valid outcome.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 08:26 AM
I can't support my statements
falkun
09-17-2013, 08:45 AM
Why put that in quotes, Alarti? That's a true statement from your own mouth.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 09:10 AM
Why put that in quotes, Alarti? That's a true statement from your own mouth.
It applies to you alot more than me. Since I have demonstrated ability to support my statements. While you just make statements and try to support them with nonsense, repeatedly. Go crawl back in your fear bunker.
Godefroi
09-17-2013, 10:16 AM
All you demonstrate is that you are a no life nerd that copes with solitude by posting all day here.
If you give me the link of your Meetic Profile I'll hitch you up Alarti
You in ?
Aviann
09-17-2013, 10:24 AM
All you demonstrate is that you are a no life nerd that copes with solitude by posting all day here.
If you give me the link of your Meetic Profile I'll hitch you up Alarti
You in ?
hitch? I wanna get hitched!
Nirgon
09-17-2013, 11:19 AM
<- never exploited Phinny.
Oh good luck getting these charges to stick palski.
The amount of deflecting in this thread is amazing.
Ghost of White Ranger
09-17-2013, 12:07 PM
Holy shit! How pathetic must your life be that you spend your hours watching a twitch stream hosted by someone you hate with a stop watch clutched in your sweaty hand just WAITING for that moment when he switches characters so you can slam your fist down on the print screen button and nearly pissing yourself with giddiness of the thought that you'll revolutionize the raid scene to the point that you may, in fact, kill a dragon next week.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 12:21 PM
Holy shit! How pathetic must your life be that you spend your hours watching a twitch stream hosted by someone you hate with a stop watch clutched in your sweaty hand just WAITING for that moment when he switches characters so you can slam your fist down on the print screen button and nearly pissing yourself with giddiness of the thought that you'll revolutionize the raid scene to the point that you may, in fact, kill a dragon next week.
Confirmed Trader alts affect FE raiding capability.
Ghost of White Ranger
09-17-2013, 12:33 PM
Confirmed Trader alts affect FE raiding capability.
When one resorts to grasping at straws I suppose any straw will do.
Uggme
09-17-2013, 12:47 PM
Let me get this straight....
A TMO member has been accused of (and admitted to) having an IP exepmtion with no legitimate reason for it to remain in place. In addition, screenshots prove that this person is using the exemption to circumvent normal delays in gameplay, possibly giving him an advantage in poopsock / camping a raid target.
This TMO member (knowing it's against the rules) states that it's "irrelevant" because it's being done with a trade mule. What's even more absurd is that other TMO members have come on here to defend his behavior and have engaged in thier typical PR spin tactics to mitigate any potential damage
The action thus far from the staff? Nothing. Zilch. Nada.
I didn't want to believe it, but it does appear that certain individuals (or guilds perhaps) do have it better off than others with the Staff and get away with things that others would not.
It really doesn't get more blatant than this.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 12:54 PM
no shit shurlock, people get banned for 2 boxing all the time this ****** gets a slap on the wrist and exemption taken away, he wont ever get banned cuz he donates to the box
Didnt 2box.... Derp
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 12:55 PM
Let me get this straight....
A TMO member has been accused of (and admitted to) having an IP exepmtion with no legitimate reason for it to remain in place. In addition, screenshots prove that this person is using the exemption to circumvent normal delays in gameplay, possibly giving him an advantage in poopsock / camping a raid target.
This TMO member (knowing it's against the rules) states that it's "irrelevant" because it's being done with a trade mule. What's even more absurd is that other TMO members have come on here to defend his behavior and have engaged in thier typical PR spin tactics to mitigate any potential damage
The action thus far from the staff? Nothing. Zilch. Nada.
I didn't want to believe it, but it does appear that certain individuals (or guilds perhaps) do have it better off than others with the Staff and get away with things that others would not.
It really doesn't get more blatant than this.
Actually his IP exemption was removed. He had a legitimate reason to have an ip exemption too.
U confused!
Uggme
09-17-2013, 01:01 PM
Actually his IP exemption was removed. He had a legitimate reason to have an ip exemption too.
U confused!
Was it? I dunno... I might believe you if what you say can be corroborated by more reliable sources.
You'll have to forgive me if I don't immediately belive everything the Public Relations Director of TMO says.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 01:02 PM
right he only got a exemption to fucking camp faster give me a break dude
I thought he got an IP exemption to play with Sloan when they were hanging.... derpin
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 01:04 PM
Was it? I dunno... I might believe you if what you say can be corroborated by more reliable sources.
You'll have to forgive me if I don't immediately belive everything the Public Relations Director of TMO says.
LOL well Jeremy says his IP exemption was removed. Not sure if anyone requires your belief however.
But you made claims that actions have not happened. I might believe you if what you say can be corroborated by more reliable sources.
Glitterati
09-17-2013, 01:12 PM
Anyone with decent IQ knows people dont get exemptions to log faster, ive seen this ****** personally box tons of times, but never really cared
You see me log on his toons to help him out. He personally has access to myself 24 hours a day. When I'm not working he takes full advantage of this and I love nothing more than to play with him. It's kinda like foreplay for us.
Uggme
09-17-2013, 01:14 PM
LOL well Jeremy says his IP exemption was removed
"Hey so the other day this guy I know, Tom the Drug Dealer, was caught by regular joes dealing said drugs. Another random guy I know, who is both friends with Tom and is constantly covering for him, is telling me that Tom told he is clean now."
Right, OK. ::eyeroll:: perhaps if some reputable people corroborated the random guy's story I just might be able to believe him! Or maybe, he's just covering for Tom.... AGAIN.
From what I've read in this thread, There is nothing here to show that Jeremy has had his Exemption removed. Quite the opposite. It appears nothing has been done.
Nuggie
09-17-2013, 01:17 PM
You see me log on his toons to help him out. He personally has access to myself 24 hours a day. When I'm not working he takes full advantage of this and I love nothing more than to play with him. It's kinda like foreplay for us.
Wish my wife would consider playing EQ as foreplay.
The jealousy is strong with this one.
Onto other news. This story is old.
Ghost of White Ranger
09-17-2013, 01:22 PM
"Hey so the other day this guy I know, Tom the Drug Dealer, was caught by regular joes dealing said drugs. Another random guy I know, who is both friends with Tom and is constantly covering for him, is telling me that Tom told he is clean now."
Right, OK. ::eyeroll:: perhaps if some reputable people corroborated the random guy's story I just might be able to believe him! Or maybe, he's just covering for Tom.... AGAIN.
From what I've read in this thread, There is nothing here to show that Jeremy has had his Exemption removed. Quite the opposite. It appears nothing has been done.
TMO confirmed drug dealers and scourge of society.
Hasbinbad
09-17-2013, 01:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k94G4fhCk6w
Clark
09-17-2013, 01:54 PM
Holy shit! How pathetic must your life be that you spend your hours watching a twitch stream hosted by someone you hate with a stop watch clutched in your sweaty hand just WAITING for that moment when he switches characters so you can slam your fist down on the print screen button and nearly pissing yourself with giddiness of the thought that you'll revolutionize the raid scene to the point that you may, in fact, kill a dragon next week.
You are a fucking retard man. He did it like fifty times I was using his stream for an extra tracker. Isn't my fault he is a rule abusing immoral scumbag. Why don't u tell me who your char is Mr. No Name?
Hasbinbad
09-17-2013, 01:54 PM
^specifically for glitterati
..who i am beginning to suspect isn't a real person, and jeremy has been claiming to have an e-girl all this time, but doesn't.
Hasbinbad
09-17-2013, 01:55 PM
coz like, no self-respecting woman would say things like the puke-worthy fawning she just displayed.
Clark
09-17-2013, 02:01 PM
Let me get this straight....
A TMO member has been accused of (and admitted to) having an IP exepmtion with no legitimate reason for it to remain in place. In addition, screenshots prove that this person is using the exemption to circumvent normal delays in gameplay, possibly giving him an advantage in poopsock / camping a raid target.
This TMO member (knowing it's against the rules) states that it's "irrelevant" because it's being done with a trade mule. What's even more absurd is that other TMO members have come on here to defend his behavior and have engaged in thier typical PR spin tactics to mitigate any potential damage
The action thus far from the staff? Nothing. Zilch. Nada.
I didn't want to believe it, but it does appear that certain individuals (or guilds perhaps) do have it better off than others with the Staff and get away with things that others would not.
It really doesn't get more blatant than this.
You're incorrect my friend.
http://s10.postimg.org/mvys5lekp/112.png
Glitterati
09-17-2013, 02:02 PM
You know I'm real lol. Remember when you and Taluvill were screaming at each other in mumble and I came in?
but here's more fawning.....I adore Jeremy greatly. He is my absolute favorite person in this world. I've never met someone with more integrity.
Hasbinbad
09-17-2013, 02:06 PM
You're either lying or being lied to.
Clark
09-17-2013, 02:08 PM
Locked and loaded. Looking out for the good of the majority; taking out the deceitful one at a time. Glad we finally have GMs who pay tribute to the majority.
http://s8.postimg.org/jsoout64l/113.png
Clark
09-17-2013, 02:11 PM
You know I'm real lol. Remember when you and Taluvill were screaming at each other in mumble and I came in?
but here's more fawning.....I adore Jeremy greatly. He is my absolute favorite person in this world. I've never met someone with more integrity.
Seriously?
http://s24.postimg.org/hgkepk8ol/36d3v8.jpg
http://s23.postimg.org/mci2hfmmz/000007black.jpg
Nirgon
09-17-2013, 02:13 PM
Big Zade getting raw.
justice4all
09-17-2013, 02:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/AIoHGcj.png
confirmed wristslap......
Uggme
09-17-2013, 02:16 PM
You're incorrect my friend.
http://s10.postimg.org/mvys5lekp/112.png
Good! Now we've got some evidence to show that something has been done, at least.
Clark
09-17-2013, 02:17 PM
Jeremy lost his IP exemption justice4all, wasn't a wristslap. The GMs addressed this in a public open forum twitch. I made sure because it's something that has been plaguing the raiding scene here for quite some time. This is something the staff feels is bogus along with the rest of the server's community. TMO do nothing for the community they are purely selfish and untruthful.
justice4all
09-17-2013, 02:19 PM
yeah non tmo get banned they get exemptions removed gg
Samoht Farstrider
09-17-2013, 02:43 PM
You know I'm real lol. Remember when you and Taluvill were screaming at each other in mumble and I came in?
but here's more fawning.....I adore Jeremy greatly. He is my absolute favorite person in this world. I've never met someone with more integrity.
IP check anyone?
Hasbinbad
09-17-2013, 02:53 PM
I've never met someone with more integrity.
Ok I couldn't not address this more directly. I have always liked you, but now come to realize that you're either completely full of shit or just plain outright stupid.
HE JUST SAID he doesn't push rules because he has too much to lose.
Fucking fail.
Hasbinbad
09-17-2013, 02:53 PM
If that means integrity to you, then you do not know what integrity means.
Aviann
09-17-2013, 02:57 PM
is this the real life, or is this just fantasy?
Hasbinbad
09-17-2013, 03:01 PM
Maybe he doesn't cheat on you coz your e-pussy is too much for him to lose. Is that faithful integrity?
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 03:23 PM
You are a fucking retard man. He did it like fifty times I was using his stream for an extra tracker. Isn't my fault he is a rule abusing immoral scumbag. Why don't u tell me who your char is Mr. No Name?
50 times!? LOL
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 03:25 PM
"Hey so the other day this guy I know, Tom the Drug Dealer, was caught by regular joes dealing said drugs. Another random guy I know, who is both friends with Tom and is constantly covering for him, is telling me that Tom told he is clean now."
Right, OK. ::eyeroll:: perhaps if some reputable people corroborated the random guy's story I just might be able to believe him! Or maybe, he's just covering for Tom.... AGAIN.
From what I've read in this thread, There is nothing here to show that Jeremy has had his Exemption removed. Quite the opposite. It appears nothing has been done.
Why does it appear that way? You have no evidence of either course... you choose to assume nothing has been done because that fits your agenda/bias. Derp
Samoht
09-17-2013, 03:30 PM
I choose to assume Jeremy nothing has done nothing wrong because that fits my agenda/bias. Derp
FTFY
Uggme
09-17-2013, 03:36 PM
Why does it appear that way? You have no evidence of either course... you choose to assume nothing has been done because that fits your agenda/bias. Derp
Let's clear this up. It used to appear nothing was being done based on the information previously available on these forums
Clear with that point of reference? Good!
As far as an agenda? I suppose my "agenda" here has been to assure myself (and others I bet) that exploiting the IP exemption will in fact result in penalties, regardless of guild affiliation/monetary donations/sexual favors/ect. Evidence corroborating what you said earlier about action being taken was posted by another individual... which is good! Your word on it's own is basically worthless*.
*Reference: The entirety of these forums.
Estolcles
09-17-2013, 03:46 PM
Every time Alarti posts, I feel like punching a wall.
Hasbinbad
09-17-2013, 03:46 PM
^a gentleman and a scholar
Hasbinbad
09-17-2013, 03:47 PM
Let's clear this up. It used to appear nothing was being done based on the information previously available on these forums
Clear with that point of reference? Good!
As far as an agenda? I suppose my "agenda" here has been to assure myself (and others I bet) that exploiting the IP exemption will in fact result in penalties, regardless of guild affiliation/monetary donations/sexual favors/ect. Evidence corroborating what you said earlier about action being taken was posted by another individual... which is good! Your word on it's own is basically worthless*.
*Reference: The entirety of these forums.
^a gentleman and a scholar
heals4reals
09-17-2013, 03:47 PM
Tmo caught exploting on Twtich
heals4reals
09-17-2013, 03:50 PM
Rellapse the ec tunnel bluebie and bottom of the totem poll cb bg pvper
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 03:51 PM
I don't understand what I just edited. If I did I would realize I was labeling myself as a moron.(not a moran)
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 03:52 PM
Every time Alarti posts, I feel like punching a wall.
Do the world a favor... don't hurt the wall aim for your head. Maybe you can shake some sense into that useless grey matter.
heals4reals
09-17-2013, 03:53 PM
Maybe headbutt wall instead of punch
heals4reals
09-17-2013, 03:54 PM
mad cuz bad
Sad cuz tru
big mouth chew
09-17-2013, 03:55 PM
i remember when this was a hot button issue on red
2 years ago
Samoht
09-17-2013, 04:08 PM
us moran no-lifes gotta stick together
yap
Susano
09-17-2013, 04:26 PM
i remember when this was a hot button issue on red...2 years ago
I remember when light was shed on TMO abusing IP exemptions before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c_EVJTmsIQ
Just like then, posts will be made by GM's, a nice show will be made to placate the masses, but nothing will change and TMO will slide by with little to no repercussions to their actions.
What's gonna be the next exploit/cheat someone catches TMO using that will summarily be swept under the rug? Guess we'll have to wait a few months to find out.
Just want to point out GM's have confirmed IP exemptions were only intended to allow simultaneous play by multiple people from one IP before Alarti shows up to slobber out his defense that "poofing" wasn't against the rules till after this and other videos came out showing TMO using these tactics.
Ghost of White Ranger
09-17-2013, 04:27 PM
Tmo caught exploting on Twtich.
Relapse is an insightful, intelligent, and literate individual.
^ First and last time you'll see those words in that order.
I am a little confused during the heat of FE vs TMO raid scene a patch was specificly put in place to not kick you from character select after sitting so long at idle.... that change is in fact counter to this new ruling.
it good to see maybe some changing up behind the scenes
Muzyn
09-17-2013, 04:37 PM
coz like, no self-respecting woman would say things like the puke-worthy fawning she just displayed.
You're not the only one thinking it.. i'm starting to think he is half of this thread.
Tiggles
09-17-2013, 04:37 PM
The day I start caring what some pussy says behind a anon account is the day I quit visiting the forums. 0 balls on an elf forum, 0 balls in RL > pussy 4 lyfe
I like to think its Zeelot.
Muzyn
09-17-2013, 04:44 PM
A 20 page thread over something you can already do without an ip exemption and just a little router know how.
/popcorn
Autotune
09-17-2013, 05:06 PM
A 20 page thread over something you can already do without an ip exemption and just a little router know how.
/popcorn
inc bans to people who use routers.
Glitterati
09-17-2013, 05:30 PM
Ok I couldn't not address this more directly. I have always liked you, but now come to realize that you're either completely full of shit or just plain outright stupid.
HE JUST SAID he doesn't push rules because he has too much to lose.
Fucking fail.
Oh come on, you've always known about me and him. I always liked you too even tho we always found ourselves on different sides, I tend to take person interactions with people more seriously than the shit that's talked about people here. You and I have always had a good rapport! Don't act shocked I'd stick my nose in here while gushing about my admiration for Jeremy Fucking Irons.
kenzar
09-17-2013, 05:35 PM
If that means integrity to you, then you do not know what integrity means.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 05:41 PM
I remember when light was shed on TMO abusing IP exemptions before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c_EVJTmsIQ
Just like then, posts will be made by GM's, a nice show will be made to placate the masses, but nothing will change and TMO will slide by with little to no repercussions to their actions.
What's gonna be the next exploit/cheat someone catches TMO using that will summarily be swept under the rug? Guess we'll have to wait a few months to find out.
Just want to point out GM's have confirmed IP exemptions were only intended to allow simultaneous play by multiple people from one IP before Alarti shows up to slobber out his defense that "poofing" wasn't against the rules till after this and other videos came out showing TMO using these tactics.
LOL Funny thing was FE (Xeli) did the same thing as proven by video. TMO member took a suspension.. and nothing happened to the FE situation. Care to comment?
Godefroi
09-17-2013, 05:42 PM
Alarti man you really are here all day jeez
0 life confirmé
Apeople
09-17-2013, 05:46 PM
LOL Funny thing was FE (Xeli) did the same thing as proven by video. TMO member took a suspension.. and nothing happened to the FE situation. Care to comment?
Aiuis or whatever his name is didn't get suspended, nor did desmo when it happened in fear, with a large train along to boot. gtfo tool.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 05:59 PM
Alarti man you really are here all day jeez
0 life confirmé
I'm here you are just desperately updating your meetic profile. Virgin Confirmed
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 06:00 PM
Aiuis or whatever his name is didn't get suspended, nor did desmo when it happened in fear, with a large train along to boot. gtfo tool.
Aiaus did actually.
Susano
09-17-2013, 06:37 PM
FE (Xeli) did the same thing. Care to comment?
The one thing I learned from Alarti:
Prove it.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 06:57 PM
The one thing I learned from Alarti:
Prove it.
Video has been posted enough time that its accepted as fact. Unless you wanna run and get those other videos you claimed but didn't post.
Susano
09-17-2013, 07:01 PM
Video has been posted enough time that its accepted as fact. Unless you wanna run and get those other videos you claimed but didn't post.
It's cool, we all know you don't have any proof, keep trying to act like you do.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 07:02 PM
It's cool, we all know you don't have any proof, keep trying to act like you do.
Ugh gonna make me go find this now.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 07:17 PM
Ugh gonna make me go find this now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcVPJrmDlOs
Susano
09-17-2013, 07:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcVPJrmDlOs
Not a single frame showing Xeli without the LD tag. Gonna have to try harder than that to prove something in this forum.
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 07:37 PM
Not a single frame showing Xeli without the LD tag. Gonna have to try harder than that to prove something in this forum.
HAHA Mobs coming from afar with aggro on Xeli who is LD. Do you have a clue about how LD mechanics work when you have aggro?
I mean if you are going to try to spin... at least know what the fuck you are talking about.
Jarnauga
09-17-2013, 07:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr7MZr9bnuk
TMO officer Sentenza using unguilded monk to grief people.
/thread
Alarti0001
09-17-2013, 07:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr7MZr9bnuk
TMO officer Sentenza using unguilded monk to grief people.
/thread
Nov 2, 2012 and not-related to the topic in discussion
/derp
Tiggles
09-17-2013, 08:37 PM
I like EQ threads.
Susano
09-17-2013, 08:45 PM
Do you have a clue about how LD mechanics work when you have aggro?
I'll admit, when it comes to exploiting, I don't know nearly as much as TMO members.
quido
09-17-2013, 08:54 PM
I just fast switched.
Autotune
09-17-2013, 10:25 PM
I'll admit, when it comes to exploiting, I don't know nearly as much as TMO members.
It's cause you suck.
hatelore
09-18-2013, 12:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr7MZr9bnuk
TMO officer Sentenza using unguilded monk to grief people.
/thread
I remember that, talk about a pos who should have received a lifetime ban from this server.
Alarti0001
09-18-2013, 12:11 AM
I remember that, talk about a pos who should have received a lifetime ban from this server.
get him one more training suspension and its for 180 days
Estolcles
09-18-2013, 12:28 AM
http://s12.postimg.org/40tatg471/aaaaa.png
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