Lost 9k and no one cares.

[slowroll]

So I am posting this here because I posted it in the petition section and no one responded. On July 4th I decided to buy a pair of Golden Efreeti boots. After a bit of haggling I found a seller who was willing to sell them for 9000 platinum I put the platinum in the trade window, the seller puts the boots in the window and I push trade. The plat was gone but there was no boots in my inventory, WTF? The seller told me he still had the boots, but all my hard earned plat was gone. I have petitions many many times in game and on the forums, but no one has helped me at all. It feels like I worked a year at a job and then my savings account just vanished. I have not felt like playing since this happened, I hope some one that can help reads this and gives me some kind of info on what can be done.

Slowroll Riverrunner 49 Druid

[majohnson87]

who was the seller

[slowroll]

The seller was a guy named Draqnier. The boots where in the trade window when I hit trade so I don't think it was the sellers fault, but who knows.

[fastboy21]

can you 100% rule out that the seller did not either accidentally or on purpose somehow dupe you into hitting trade when the efreeti boots weren't in the window?

in other words, is there a way you can be 100% that the seller did not receive your 9k?

it would probably go a long way to proving to a gm if the seller comes forward to corroborate your story. even then, it would be kind of difficult to prove the cash just "vanished" as time goes on.

***
I'm somewhat skeptical because I have not heard of this bug before reported by anyone else so far...it seems "more likely than not" that you were duped by someone.

Anyways, I hope you can get some help from someone. I care for you.

[soup]

I had something similar happen before, except it was with a cloak that was worth like 50pp at most heh

Bought the cloak off someone, proceeded to zone out of EC and I look in my inventory and it's not there. I'm like "wtf?" and talk to the guy and he said it was gone, but it's just 50pp, so I tell the guy I'll buy the other one he had. We make the exchange, this time I look and I see the cloak distinctly sitting in my inventory. Zone out of EC again, look, and the damn cloak was gone again.

Never seen it happen since then :dunno:

[soup]

^ I'll add that I am absolutely sure the cloak was in the trade window both times when I clicked trade, after the other guy already had, since I pretty much always let the other person click trade first while I give the trade one last look to make sure it's legit, and was especially sure for the second one, given what happened the first time, and I also distinctly saw the cloak in my inventory afterwards, and after zoning that same slot was empty, with no cloak anywhere in my inv at all, nor being worn by my character.

[slowroll]

Sure I could have been duped, but I don't know how. I petitioned in game and on the forums right when it happened so some one could look at the logs and see how the trade went down, but no response. When it happened the Draqnier guy did say that I shouldn't mention his name, that other people had talked bad about him on the forums, which did sounds sketchy.

[soup]

^ also, sweet run on sentence bro

[soup]

my sentence, not the guy who ninja posted before I did :o

[Phallax]

The seller was a guy named Draqnier. The boots where in the trade window when I hit trade so I don't think it was the sellers fault, but who knows.

Although there was/is a known trade bug, Draqnier is also a known scammer so I wouldnt be surprised the least that you got scammed somehow.

[darkblade717]

Every coin has an individual item number. Give them a time/date/etc and they can just tell you if the douchebag has your money or if it was a legit game glitch. Should take them all of an hour...that is if they cared about actually doing something. Draqnier is pretty much a useless piece of shit, so I wouldn't be surprised if he did somehow screw you.

[Theldios]

Everything is working as intended. This is how the economy is to be fixed one broken trade at a time. LOL sorry man could not resist. I am sure if your patiente they will get to your bug report

[slowroll]

It happened on July 4th I don't know how more patient I can get :)

[Maurk]

this happened to me once when I was transfering some PP and accidentally had it cancelled.. the PP was sadly gone

there is definately a bug of sorts
it does however seem to be random

[Straif]

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/Shogun710/lolol.jpg

OOOOHHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!!!

[slowroll]

OMG Great Picture. I now 100 percent believe that Draqnier scamed me. Based on this picture alone.

[Straif]

Let's clarify... I don't know Draqnier, but Phallax is usually spot on in all of his posts. I've learned to seek out his vast knowledge and take his word on shit...

Plus, I'm bored... did it for the lulz

[Lickum]

Draqnier is a scammer. When newbies were getting free things from high level players that were quitting he was right there after every trade trying to scam the newbies with items and money offers far below their actual worth. His only retort? "Newbies don't deserve this shit"

[Nedala]

We should sticky "never trade with draqnier" in the ec-tunnel forum...

[Abraham1]

damn slowroll, hit me up if you ever want to form an efreeti group and we'll do some old school solb grouping to get you those boots

[Walabaego]

Draqnier is a scammer. When newbies were getting free things from high level players that were quitting he was right there after every trade trying to scam the newbies with items and money offers far below their actual worth. His only retort? "Newbies don't deserve this shit"

Sad truth, watch out folks. I've seen him all over ''Free loot for lowbies'', reasons above, which sucks. I'd rather hook up lowbies, not give items to some asshole who's gonna flip it and jack up the price. Live and learn, you'll find the trust worthy people on here, just write down those that are not :)

[Lazortag]

Not only is Draqnier a scammer but a KSing dickhead as well.

I honestly am not so much frustrated at the fact that he hasn't been banned but more so at the fact that he hasn't been completely boycotted yet. Why not just blackball him like in the good old days?

Also, I'm not sure if the GM's can find out if plat disappeared using logs. I'm also not sure they want to help people out unless they provide steps on how to replicate the problem. Then again it seems to just be lag-related..

[Overcast]

There was a 'trick' some used on Live...

They would put up an item, such as a Fungi in trade. When you put up the money, they'd "pretend" of have accidentally clicked cancel.

On the 2nd trade, they'd put up an item, like a cloth shirt with an identical graphic and wait for you to put up the money and hit trade again.

So - always - right before you hit trade, double check that item.

That may or may not have been possible in this situation - just a FYI.

[Molitoth]

I would also like to add that Draqnier is a condom cleaner.

[Phallax]

Let's clarify... I don't know Draqnier, but Phallax is usually spot on in all of his posts. I've learned to seek out his vast knowledge and take his word on shit...

Plus, I'm bored... did it for the lulz

I think I just got trolled =(

[Straif]

I think I just got trolled =(

Na, just gave me an excuse to draw a picture on MS Paint.. :D

[Yoite]

oh dang! glad i found this post. i was thinking about doing a trade with this Draqnier guy.

[Spud]

There was a 'trick' some used on Live...

They would put up an item, such as a Fungi in trade. When you put up the money, they'd "pretend" of have accidentally clicked cancel.

On the 2nd trade, they'd put up an item, like a cloth shirt with an identical graphic and wait for you to put up the money and hit trade again.

So - always - right before you hit trade, double check that item.

That may or may not have been possible in this situation - just a FYI.

Yea ive heard of people swapping out manastones with lightstones at the last second then hitting trade.

Make sure to double check the item before you hit trade!

This is Draqnier guy sounds like a real douche. Someone should warn other people not to trade with him at EC tunnel and black list him.

[guineapig]

Of course he can just start doing it again with a different character.
Unless he were caught and banned simply avoiding this character alone wouldn't solve the problem.

[Phallax]

Of course he can just start doing it again with a different character.
Unless he were caught and banned simply avoiding this character alone wouldn't solve the problem.

One thing I miss about global was it was easier to blacklist players such as Draqnier, now all the new comers dont know to avoid certain people untill the get scammed =/

[Lonedrahon25]

FYI, when someone puts something in the trade window, it gives you a link in your chat screen to what it is...This way is a little bit faster then manually checking said item.

[Overcast]

Of course he can just start doing it again with a different character.
Unless he were caught and banned simply avoiding this character alone wouldn't solve the problem.

Either way..

RIGHT before you click trade, double check that item in the trade Window. Unsure, check it again.

Just do a 'once over' on all things before you click trade, if that window closes for whatever reason - check it all again.

Then - immediately after, check your inventory.

Be paranoid - like me, I'll make sure the top left spot is open, so I know where that item will go. I'm a bit paranoid on bigger item trades.

I have yet to be scammed hard, and wanna keep it that way. But I'm hesitant on buying/selling anyway. If it's a big $$$ item, then I'll usually pass on buying unless it's someone I've seen around or in trade a decent amount and if you are too low level - forget it.

[Bukowski]

If you ever want to do an efreeti group and want mage DPS or rogue DPS /tell Bukowski or Cirrhosis ! I'll help.

Esp. if my lover Abraham is there.

[Reiker]

It's very possible, either through a bug or through intentional manipulation, to 100% have the item you want to trade for inside of the trade window, hitting trade, and losing your trade and not receiving their's.

[Malrubius]

Known bug...

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2647


Of course, its still possible you got scammed too.

[slowroll]

Thank you so much everyone for your support, people really do care. I haven't gotten any feedback from any developers yet, but I did learn not to buy big ticket items from shady people name Draqnier. Thanks Abraham for the offer, I will take you up on that soon man. The good people on this server out weight the trolls by far.

[Bardzilla]

always good to verify the item in the trade window, I remember kunark and people buying many a 'large tan shirt' or whatever it was, as a fungi.

[slowroll]

I verified the item. I don't think there is another pair of boots with the same icon, and I didn't receive anything when I pushed trade just lost the platinum.

[Fryhole]

So he told you he still had the boots? What a class act. Deserves to have his mass horde of plat, items distributed to the newbs and his character erased. Don't ban him - let him come back, start doing his shady dealings and rinse/repeat his character deletion. *shrug*

[Molitoth]

So he told you he still had the boots? What a class act. Deserves to have his mass horde of plat, items distributed to the newbs and his character erased. Don't ban him - let him come back, start doing his shady dealings and rinse/repeat his character deletion. *shrug*

Most of the server has known he is a giant cum sickle since he started playing. His parents should've had the abortion.

[girth]

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/Shogun710/lolol.jpg

OOOOHHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!!!

hahahahhahahahah

[azxten]

Unfortunately this server is extremely low on support resources. That's part of the reason I haven't played in a couple weeks. What's the point of having rules about camps, etc when you can never get support in time anyway? I usually get a response to petitions about things like that 2-3 days later...

There is probably a single person (Rogean?) who is really even capable of helping you with your lost plat and odds are around 10-15 other people are waiting on him for other restoration issues as well on top of him having to deal with server/game issues outside of petitions.

Basically... keep waiting and bothering the staff, eventually they'll get around to it.

[Ihealyou]

http://i25.tinypic.com/25r33pk.jpg


A masterpiece? Maybe. I don't even think about the critics or galleries when I work. I paint for the people. Fine art should not be restricted to the domain of the wealthy and powerful. Beauty comes from nature. From life. As we experience life, we experience the most amazing beauty possible. My work simply tries to caputre this.

[xshayla701]

http://i25.tinypic.com/25r33pk.jpg


A masterpiece? Maybe. I don't even think about the critics or galleries when I work. I paint for the people. Fine art should not be restricted to the domain of the wealthy and powerful. Beauty comes from nature. From life. As we experience life, we experience the most amazing beauty possible. My work simply tries to caputre this.

lol or anything =(

[Swishahouse]

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/Shogun710/lolol.jpg

OOOOHHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!!!

That isnt draqnier this is draqnier

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lVprNSqIbk8/TEeMliUhInI/AAAAAAAABCQ/2AKWbbIg4DY/draq.jpg

[Straif]

That isnt draqnier this is draqnier

lmao! Thanks for the correction haha :D