Who here has a Fetlife?

[abacab-winner]

Besides the resident trannies and Falisaty?

[Weekapaug]

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No, I won't tell you my name there.

[Estolcles]

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But I never use it. Thought it was some kind of fetish dating site originally. When I found out it wasn't, I ignored it.

Still get emails about it though.

[Weekapaug]

If you are into general BDSM it's great and it's best for social networking in your local community. Like if you are into things that require training to do safely, that's the best way to go because they can hook you up with the right people to learn from.

I'm not, and my local community sucks, so, yeah, I rarely use it, either.

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

i do lul

[abacab-winner]

Bunch of sick fucks in this thread...

What're you guise into?

[Estolcles]

Bunch of sick fucks in this thread...

What're you guise into?

Bondage Trannies!

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

lingerie, panties, nothing srs

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

https://fetlife.com/users/178870

lol

[abacab-winner]

https://fetlife.com/users/178870

lol

" In my public life I am a mild mannered type of guy. My work kept me in the public eye. Behind closed doors I am totally different. I consider myself a kind and just Sir/Master. I have just retired from the military and my job. I am interesed in those in poly familys."

What a player big Sirken is.

[abacab-winner]

Being part of the burning man crew, I've got a healthy stable of hippie sluts that I fuck with bottles and fist; no big deal.

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

lol

[abacab-winner]

I've fucked a girl with a vodka bottle, I've also fucked a 300 lb black chick; no big deal.

[Estolcles]

I've fucked a girl with a vodka bottle, I've also fucked a 300 lb black chick; no big deal.

Damn, you beat my black chick fucked size by 50 pounds.

I fisted a girl a few times. She was my best relationship to date.

[Bardalicious]

nothing says keeper like a vagina so loose u can fit 2 hands in and clap

[abacab-winner]

nothing says keeper like a vagina so loose u can fit 2 hands in and clap

Damn str8

[abacab-winner]

Nothing bringing the p99 closer together than the shared interest in big black chicks and fisting.

[Estolcles]

Nothing bringing the p99 closer together than the shared interest in big black chicks and fisting.

Fuck yeah!

[abacab-winner]

Nizzar has the potential to get laid:

https://fetlife.com/fetishes/367022

[Weekapaug]

Vanillas are so funny.

[abacab-winner]

Vanillas are so funny.

http://images.politico.com/global/blogs/110813_vanilla_ice_465_ap.jpg

[abacab-winner]

Vanilla only something the BDSM community uses, which is like less than half of fetlife; BDSM community full of old people and fats that can't hang with the vorarephilia crowd.

[Weekapaug]

Vanilla only something the BDSM community uses, which is like less than half of fetlife; BDSM community full of old people and fats that can't hang with the vorarephilia crowd.

^^confirmed vanilla.

Generalize all you want, but kinksters come in all shapes, sizes, ages, from all walks of life.

[Estolcles]

Vanilla only something the BDSM community uses, which is like less than half of fetlife; BDSM community full of old people and fats that can't hang with the vorarephilia crowd.

I still wonder how people with that fetish actually try practicing. And especially the fatties that prove they have the stomach capacity to attempt something. (Yet I'd practice cannibalism of it were legal... although that's a bit different.)

At least it isn't unbirthing.

[abacab-winner]

^^confirmed vanilla.

Generalize all you want, but kinksters come in all shapes, sizes, ages, from all walks of life.

I see vanilla all the time in the BDSM groups, but never the fetish groups; you smokin' crack pal.

[abacab-winner]

I leik Hucows.

[Estolcles]

http://images.politico.com/global/blogs/110813_vanilla_ice_465_ap.jpg

Only his attempts at being relevant again were funny.

[Weekapaug]

I see vanilla all the time in the BDSM groups, but never the fetish groups; you smokin' crack pal.

Yes, because reading groups online means you have a clue.

[abacab-winner]

Point blank, no such thing as vanilla in the fetish community.

Take lactation fetishists; either you like sucking milk out of titties or you don't, you don't even need to practice the fetish as you can satiate yourself with the thousands of videos, pictures, and erotica pertaining to that fetish...

Do people form ANR's to live out that fetish yes, in the same manner that these people will buy human breast milk and chug it; but it's not the ordinary. This is in contrast to the BDSM community which takes a more active approach, you got to take the plunge into it or you're vanilla, fetishists don't play by the same terminology.

[abacab-winner]

Yes, because reading groups online means you have a clue.

I don't think you understand fetish.

Take vorarephilia for example, how are you going to go beyond this outside discussing erotica and eroge in groups? You can't physically unbirth someone, and while you can swallow someone as in consume them, it's a high felony to do so.

So board stalking over the fetish is the norm, practicing is exceptionally rare.

[Weekapaug]

Did you read that online somewhere?

In the real world there is lots of crossover depending on the individual. And, yes, some fetishists use the term "vanilla." I'm one of them.

[Weekapaug]

I don't think you understand fetish.

Yes, 23+ years as a practicing fetishist, as in for real (not jerking off over it on the internet) and, depending on relationship, lifestyle dom means I don't understand fetish.

If you had a clue you would understand that there is a lot of gray area. It's not a computer game where everything is in this or that category and it's all neatly broken down. There is a lot of crossover and it varies from individual and individual situation.

Go read some more fetlife groups and debate it with them there. 90% of the people on that site are clueless too.

[abacab-winner]

Did you read that online somewhere?

In the real world there is lots of crossover depending on the individual. And, yes, some fetishists use the term "vanilla." I'm one of them.

Such a silly blanket term, only thing I'm trying to tell you is it's not the norm it's the exception and the exception is more rampant in the BDSM community than say the furry community, or the age-play community etc.

[Estolcles]

90% of the people on that site are clueless too.

Another reason why I don't pay attention to that site as well.

This is why when I want to know something fetishy, I go to the local fetish club and ask people I know who practice.

[Weekapaug]

All those neatly defined roles and categories you read about on the internet.

I say again. Vanillas are so funny.

[abacab-winner]

Another reason why I don't pay attention to that site as well.

This is why when I want to know something fetishy, I go to the local fetish club and ask people I know who practice.

Fetish clubs so dangerous if you're on the dark side of things, particularly the taboo crowd.

[abacab-winner]

All those neatly defined roles and categories you read about on the internet.

I say again. Vanillas are so funny.

I like to define and categorize, it's something that makes it easier for me to understand things; some pals call it autism.

[billw134]

Abacab likes a good sized chocolate!

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

this thread went from interesting to 2 ppl arguing

[abacab-winner]

this thread went from interesting to 2 ppl arguing

Wekapaug just mad because I see nothing but black and white, and not acknowledging his multiple shades of gray.

[Reapin]

Point blank, no such thing as vanilla in the fetish community.

Take lactation fetishists; either you like sucking milk out of titties or you don't, you don't even need to practice the fetish as you can satiate yourself with the thousands of videos, pictures, and erotica pertaining to that fetish...




While fapping and blowing your load over your own face. Sounds like a bunch of winners.

If you want to go and eat a turd, go out and eat a turd.

[abacab-winner]

While fapping and blowing your load over your own face. Sounds like a bunch of winners.

If you want to go and eat a turd, go out and eat a turd.

I fapped during a fear clear once.

[Estolcles]

Fetish clubs so dangerous if you're on the dark side of things, particularly the taboo crowd.

I have a membership to the one in RVA, and even that one isn't really all that extreme. Mostly a dancefloor playing NIN and similar bands that can be danced to, a bar for alcohol (until last call: 1:45am), and a back room where there's a swing, a cross for whipping pepople, and the crippled bathroom stall (set up with lube and condoms).

Occasionally someone will bring out a Violet Wand for some fun. Women have to wear tape over nipples if they go topless. Most of the fetish groups around RVA have their meetings (non-playtime ones) in that back room as well.

Still, fun to be a wallflower in there. Learn quite a bit of what to and not to do, how to and not to act, and watch posers get revealed for the POSes they are (too many pussyhounds).

[Weekapaug]

Another reason why I don't pay attention to that site as well.

This is why when I want to know something fetishy, I go to the local fetish club and ask people I know who practice.

That's the best way. Local clubs and groups bring specific problems of their own but, in general for most people looking to learn, that's the best and safest way to get good info about something you think you might want to try. And I would suggest never trying anything that could be even remotely damaging or potentially dangerous to a partner without getting good instruction. Like rope bondage, for example.....Seems simple enough and it's where a lot of people start, but you can seriously injure or kill someone if you don't know what you are doing.

Just remember if you are looking to meet someone that "safety" generally means that female sub-types will get warned which male top/dom-types to avoid for whatever reasons. It's human nature and that of society to protect the women and, as you can imagine, there is no shortage of mother hen and white-knight types. Which is fine, but they generally don't warn the guys who the head-case women are and, trust me, there are always plenty of those around. There are self-described "submissive women" who are also the most manipulative, potentially evil human beings you may ever know and they know how to come in under the radar, so take it slow and be careful before you fully let one into your life.

But, yeah, if you are seriously interested in something, find out what your local groups and clubs are about and check it out. Best way to go in most cases. And that's what FetLife is best for...networking for that, but take everything you read on the site with a grain of salt.

[abacab-winner]

the crippled bathroom stall (set up with lube and condoms

http://www.nihilumguild.com/

[Weekapaug]

Wekapaug just mad because I see nothing but black and white, and not acknowledging his multiple shades of gray.

Not mad at all, and this isn't an argument, but that's how I know you are clueless.

If you truly are autistic, I meant no offense. It's just that you purport to speak with authority about a subject that, clearly, you have zero experience with besides having read something on the internet.

There is zero black and white in any of this. The only absolutes are standards of conduct between participants, honoring limits, safewords, etc. Beyond that it truly varies greatly from one individual to another and from relationship to relationship. Sorry.

And "vanilla" isn't meant to be an offensive term, and it shoudln't be taken as an insult. It just means "not one of us," basicly.

[Tiggles]

Wekapaug just mad because I see nothing but black and white, and not acknowledging his fifty shades of gray.


see what I did? I made a pun about that fetish book girls read.

I'm contributing to this thread.

[Weekapaug]

I was wondering how long it would take, Tiggles. lol

[abacab-winner]

Not mad at all, and this isn't an argument, but that's how I know you are clueless.

If you truly are autistic, I meant no offense. It's just that you purport to speak with authority about a subject that, clearly, you have zero experience with besides having read something on the internet.

There is zero black and white in any of this. The only absolutes are standards of conduct between participants, honoring limits, safewords, etc. Beyond that it truly varies greatly from one individual to another and from relationship to relationship. Sorry.

And "vanilla" isn't meant to be an offensive term, and it shoudln't be taken as an insult. It just means "not one of us," basicly.

Right, but that is one facet.

A lot of the stuff I am into such as my enjoyment of gore, is simply felonious. So I stick with guro-eroge, because I can't just abduct someone off the street and eviscerate them like I'm Jack the Ripper.

So in my little fetish world, it REALLY is confined to erotica, forums, and drawn images because the only people that do act them out are serial killers (I guess you could roleplay but you know it's fake so it's not so much of a thrill)

Even in the context of social clubs or fetish clubs, I can't just bring up in casual conversation "oh murder is my thing" because don't you think people might get a super creepy vibe from you?

There are thousands of fetishes but you should be aware there are certain fetishes that if talked about in a public domain shit will get real really quick and those are the extremes you know like necrophilia, bestiality, incest, pedophilia, rape, so on and so on

You know as well as I if anyone brought any of those lists up it would kill the vibe; because those are predator interests.

So while you say "oh you're vanilla cause you don't practice irl" keep in mind there are about a dozen or so fetishes that legally, morally and physically cannot practice.

[abacab-winner]

I don't really like guro, I'm just proving a point.

[abacab-winner]

SO the question to you Weekapaug:

What about the black fetishists, the non-consensual fetishes; how would that even fit in with the more typical fetishes?

[Weekapaug]

Correct. The vast majority of people into some kind of kink are into fairly innocuous things. Shit most vanillas would find boring, really. For most, it's about the dynamic of how it is practiced.

Many would be shocked to learn that kinksters also have an unbelieveable, shocking really, knack for being incredibly close minded and judgemental of other kinksters' kinks. So, yeah, I wouldn't suggest wearing that particular interest on your sleeve.

You also might want to get some professional help for that.

[abacab-winner]

Correct. The vast majority of people into some kind of kink are into fairly innocuous things. Shit most vanillas would find boring, really. For most, it's about the dynamic of how it is practiced.

Many would be shocked to learn that kinksters also have an unbelieveable, shocking really, knack for being incredibly close minded and judgemental of other kinksters' kinks. So, yeah, I wouldn't suggest wearing that particular interest on your sleeve.

You also might want to get some professional help for that.

Right.

So what you're saying is those are best left in the dark recesses of the internet, because they don't fit the formula that the more tame fetishists seek in company.

So it's whats the point in vanilla as a blanket term if given the examples I gave you really have zero place anywhere but the warped imaginations and shared delusion of those who obsess over them?

[abacab-winner]

I love fetish talks, it's like the philosophy of weird.

[abacab-winner]

So if you agree that vanilla is a silly blanket term that cannot apply to every individual fetishist or their interests, I will agree that I play librarian more than I play reality.

[Weekapaug]

SO the question to you Weekapaug:

What about the black fetishists, the non-consensual fetishes; how would that even fit in with the more typical fetishes?

Never heard of "black fetishist" but there are lots of people into "non-consentual consent." Not my thing so can't tell you much about it. There's a big universe of kink out there, I'm not an expert on all of it, or anything, just have a lot of real life experience with my particular area. Consent is a big deal for me so not something I've done.

Although, speaking of that, I'm reminded of something I read not to long ago....Don't know if this was real or just someone telling a story, but there was apparently something in the news from Australia or the UK....A couple of businessmen witness 5 men dragging a woman into the back of a truck and close the door on a city street in broad daylight. They get closer and hear what sounds like a rape in progress so they find some police officers, who open the truck door and start apprehending the attackers. The woman yells at them "You assholes! It took me 5 months to arrange this."

There are definately people into that. You wouldn't catch me near a situation like that, though.

[abacab-winner]

Never heard of "black fetishist" but there are lots of people into "non-consentual consent." Not my thing so can't tell you much about it. There's a big universe of kink out there, I'm not an expert on all of it, or anything, just have a lot of real life experience with my particular area. Consent is a big deal for me so not something I've done.

Although, speaking of that, I'm reminded of something I read not to long ago....Don't know if this was real or just someone telling a story, but there was apparently something in the news from Australia or the UK....A couple of businessmen witness 5 men dragging a woman into the back of a truck and close the door on a city street in broad daylight. They get closer and hear what sounds like a rape in progress so they find some police officers, who open the truck door and start apprehending the attackers. The woman yells at them "You assholes! It took me 5 months to arrange this."

There are definately people into that. You wouldn't catch me near a situation like that, though.

It's probably not true, but it's a legit example of what is tolerable in term of morality/legality even though she consented the State will see that as abduction. It's like the story of the cannibal couple who the wife consented to being eaten; she was consumed but charges were still filed for manslaughter even though it was consensual.

[Weekapaug]

Right.

So what you're saying is those are best left in the dark recesses of the internet, because they don't fit the formula that the more tame fetishists seek in company.

So it's whats the point in vanilla as a blanket term if given the examples I gave you really have zero place anywhere but the warped imaginations and shared delusion of those who obsess over them?

Huh? I called you a vanilla at the start of the thread because you guys were talking about fucking.

[abacab-winner]

Huh? I called you a vanilla at the start of the thread because you guys were talking about fucking.

I like to ramble, could start about fucking could end with marijuana; I like to use a lot of stories, drive home points, apply things in first and third person; anything to keep the conversation going.

[Estolcles]

Although, speaking of that, I'm reminded of something I read not to long ago....Don't know if this was real or just someone telling a story, but there was apparently something in the news from Australia or the UK....A couple of businessmen witness 5 men dragging a woman into the back of a truck and close the door on a city street in broad daylight. They get closer and hear what sounds like a rape in progress so they find some police officers, who open the truck door and start apprehending the attackers. The woman yells at them "You assholes! It took me 5 months to arrange this."

There are definately people into that. You wouldn't catch me near a situation like that, though.

Laws haven't caught up with human interests and ingenuity, alas.

[Weekapaug]

It's probably not true, but it's a legit example of what is tolerable in term of morality/legality even though she consented the State will see that as abduction. It's like the story of the cannibal couple who the wife consented to being eaten; she was consumed but charges were still filed for manslaughter even though it was consensual.

Obviously there is no place in the civilized world that allows anyone to consent to being killed. You are talking about an extreme.

But with even the most common fetishes that's a serious issue and, apparently, Australia and the UK are really REALLY bad places to practice anything remotely heavy or even basic impact play, because under the law there you can't legally consent to being assaulted. And it's not much better in some places in the US, with doctors being legally obligated to report what they think are signs of abuse, etc. All good in cases of actual abuse, but it can be a nightmare for some people who are into some things.

Then what people go through in divorces, especially where child custody is concerned. What was once a private, consentual matter between two married adults becomes ammunition for attorneys in an open courtroom. I don't know him personally, but there's a guy in my local area who had to endure this a few years ago, I'm told.

If you are really interested there is a forum on FetLife for legal issues like that. Crazy some of it.