Worried about high-end play(ers)

[SCB]

I came to EQ Classic simply because I like playing EQ. I have little/no interest in raiding (I raid 4 nights a week in WoW currently), but absolutely love the challenging group content in EQ.

My worry is that as I level, my enjoyment will lessen considerably. Essentially all I see on the forums is that high-end content is permanently camped, raid bosses are fought over constantly (something that rarely, if ever, happened on my EQ server back in the day- we had a serverwide raid calendar), people refuse to group with hybrids or people with racial xp penalties, etc.

It just seems like the part of the community most drawn here is the negative type. I'm hoping this isn't true, as I get more than enough of that attitude from my own guildmates in WoW.

As a player who isn't very interested in Fear/Hate raids or anything, do you think what I see as a negative aspect of the community will even affect me? I currently roll an enchanter, and as the levels climb, their ability to solo suffers, so I will likely be reliant on groups.

[Loke]

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but you're fucking retarded. I'm so sick of people coming here and complaining about how other players MIGHT affect them. People play this game for their own enjoyment, not yours - just as you play it for yours and not theirs.

Here's a thought. Log on, make a character, play until it's fun and then stop once it isn't. Honestly, I really don't care what you do as long as you stop making posts on here preemptively complaining about players that haven't done anything to you yet.

[MiRo2]

It just seems like the part of the community most drawn here is the negative type

Theses type of people are often also the most outspoken people on the forums.

[Toony]

I came to EQ Classic simply because I like playing EQ. I have little/no interest in raiding (I raid 4 nights a week in WoW currently), but absolutely love the challenging group content in EQ.

My worry is that as I level, my enjoyment will lessen considerably. Essentially all I see on the forums is that high-end content is permanently camped, raid bosses are fought over constantly (something that rarely, if ever, happened on my EQ server back in the day- we had a serverwide raid calendar), people refuse to group with hybrids or people with racial xp penalties, etc.

It just seems like the part of the community most drawn here is the negative type. I'm hoping this isn't true, as I get more than enough of that attitude from my own guildmates in WoW.

As a player who isn't very interested in Fear/Hate raids or anything, do you think what I see as a negative aspect of the community will even affect me? I currently roll an enchanter, and as the levels climb, their ability to solo suffers, so I will likely be reliant on groups.

Yes you should quit now. Well, unless you enjoy playing, then don't.


Glad I could help!

[Ihealyou]

I've yet to have a bad experience with another player in game.

But everyone <3's me.

[PhelanKA]

I don't mean to sound like a dick...

Ok!

...but you're fucking retarded.

Ok?

[Dantes]

I sort of agree with Loke, although I might not be so harsh. Lots of folks sort of have this toe in the water attitude. "What class should I play. Am I going to enjoy this? Is 20 hours enough time to play each week? Am I going to get carpal tunnel? I prefer walking backwards instead of forward, will that work here on P99? If a halfling druid falls in the forest, does it make a sound?" Seriously, just play and have fun.

The forums are like maybe 25% of what's actually happening on the server. The most outspoken people are complaining about things, the concentration of negative energy seems to dwell here.

[theguyy]

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but you're fucking retarded. I'm so sick of people coming here and complaining about how other players MIGHT affect them. People play this game for their own enjoyment, not yours - just as you play it for yours and not theirs.

Here's a thought. Log on, make a character, play until it's fun and then stop once it isn't. Honestly, I really don't care what you do as long as you stop making posts on here preemptively complaining about players that haven't done anything to you yet.

Rage from a WoW kiddie that enjoys to grief no doubt. Your one of those people that wipes a raid and claims you have the right to cuz you pay $15 a month. Well your idiocy is wasting the raids $400 a month. In this games case it would just be time, but not justified either way.

[SCB]

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but you're fucking retarded. I'm so sick of people coming here and complaining about how other players MIGHT affect them. People play this game for their own enjoyment, not yours - just as you play it for yours and not theirs.

Here's a thought. Log on, make a character, play until it's fun and then stop once it isn't. Honestly, I really don't care what you do as long as you stop making posts on here preemptively complaining about players that haven't done anything to you yet.

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but you're literally exactly what I was talking about.

I have a character, I'm enjoying myself immensely. However, as I near the level of content I consistently see people bitching about, I am (IMO) understandably concerned that said bitching will affect me, too. I play this game to relive some of the old fun, and if the high-end content is difficult to enjoy because of people with your outlook, I can continually create low-ish toons and still enjoy myself. I am simply trying to get a glimpse of what others think. You know, the reason forums exist in the first place.

Here's a thought: Make an account, post on the forums, when someone posts something you are going to act like a dick over, stop posting. Honestly, I really don't care what you do as long as you stop making posts on here raging about how something you didn't need to read in any way, shape, or form that you grossly misinterpreted if you read at all somehow offended your delicate sensibilities.

[girth]

You make this post in R&F and don't expect people to have a field day with it?
This almost seems like a troll man. If you don't care what people think then why the hell did you make a post here asking what people think?

[SCB]

You make this post in R&F and don't expect people to have a field day with it?
This almost seems like a troll man. If you don't care what people think then why the hell did you make a post here asking what people think?

I care what people think about the question asked. I posted it here instead of in Server Chat because I was worried it would offend people and get moved here anyway.

Apparently that was a poor decision, duly noted.

[PhelanKA]

Rage from a WoW kiddie that enjoys to grief no doubt. Your one of those people that wipes a raid and claims you have the right to cuz you pay $15 a month. Well your idiocy is wasting the raids $400 a month. In this games case it would just be time, but not justified either way.

Loke may be a dick, but I didn't get what you said at all out of his post.

[Dantes]

Perhaps you aren't reading enough of the posts. Check out the thank you thread. There's countless stories of generosity. The fact is people like to bitch. Doesn't matter what video game, what hobby, what forum community - people like to complain. When you look up reviews of a restaurant you are more likely to see negative reviews because who takes the time to write a positive review anyway? Nobody.

Somebody gave me an Axe of the Slayers, sent me a tell 3 zones away. When I first started out, I had nearly a full set of bronze armor that somebody gave me for free just because my friend and I were getting back into the game. A necro gave me 120pp for 2 stacks of bone chips because I carried them all the way out to South Ro from EC at level 6. I'm constantly getting buffs for free without even asking, it's nice to see somebody just gave me a DS or haste just because they're passing by. It happens all the time.

I haven't been in a group yet that has denied hybrids or people with experience penalties from joining. That's just speculation on the part of people making a mountain out of a mole hill. To be honest if somebody is so concerned about precious experience that they can't afford to have a tiny bit less because there's a Troll SK in the group, I don't want to group with that uptight asshole. Point is there are plenty of fun-loving NICE folks on P99 and THEY ROCK, you just see the most negativity on the forums because people like to bitch.

[G13]

I care what people think about the question asked. I posted it here instead of in Server Chat because I was worried it would offend people and get moved here anyway.

Apparently that was a poor decision, duly noted.

Get over yourself and fuck off

[PhelanKA]

Perhaps you aren't reading enough of the posts. Check out the thank you thread. There's countless stories of generosity. The fact is people like to bitch. Doesn't matter what video game, what hobby, what forum community - people like to complain. When you look up reviews of a restaurant you are more likely to see negative reviews because who takes the time to write a positive review anyway? Nobody.

Somebody gave me an Axe of the Slayers, sent me a tell 3 zones away. When I first started out, I had nearly a full set of bronze armor that somebody gave me for free just because my friend and I were getting back into the game. A necro gave me 120pp for 2 stacks of bone chips because I carried them all the way out to South Ro from EC at level 6. I'm constantly getting buffs for free without even asking, it's nice to see somebody just gave me a DS or haste just because they're passing by. It happens all the time.

I haven't been in a group yet that has denied hybrids or people with experience penalties from joining. That's just speculation on the part of people making a mountain out of a mole hill. To be honest if somebody is so concerned about precious experience that they can't afford to have a tiny bit less because there's a Troll SK in the group, I don't want to group with that uptight asshole. Point is there are plenty of fun-loving NICE folks on P99 and THEY ROCK, you just see the most negativity on the forums because people like to bitch.

I'm with ya. I've met far more nice people than jerks. There's just one person that was a real idiot so far that I had to put on ignore.

[Loke]

Obviously theguyy is a troll, but I would just like to say that I don't wipe raids because I'm awesome at EQ. Also, if you're paying someone $15 a month to play here I think you're doing something wrong (unless you're donating, then you're doing something right!).

Honestly, if you want to think I'm a dick, go for it - I think a number of people here that know me would disagree - but whatever. I just don't understand why you need to come here and make a post about whether or not you should play. No one here knows you, and as such, how could we possibly know what will or will not be considered fun to you. Why do our opinions matter to you? Do what you think is fun, and if it isn't - stop doing it. There is no need to come here and make posts which insinuate that you're afraid you cannot come here and enjoy the game because everyone who raids is an immature asshole (which is basically what I got from your initial post).

As far as why I replied to your post as opposed to just ignoring it - mostly it's boredom. I honestly don't really care about what you do one way or another - but it rained outside all afternoon and as such, I was stuck inside.

[Shannacore]

Obviously theguyy is a troll, but I would just like to say that I don't wipe raids because I'm awesome at EQ. Also, if you're paying someone $15 a month to play here I think you're doing something wrong (unless you're donating, then you're doing something right!).

Honestly, if you want to think I'm a dick, go for it - I think a number of people here that know me would disagree - but whatever. I just don't understand why you need to come here and make a post about whether or not you should play. No one here knows you, and as such, how could we possibly know what will or will not be considered fun to you. Why do our opinions matter to you? Do what you think is fun, and if it isn't - stop doing it. There is no need to come here and make posts which insinuate that you're afraid you cannot come here and enjoy the game because everyone who raids is an immature asshole (which is basically what I got from your initial post).

As far as why I replied to your post as opposed to just ignoring it - mostly it's boredom. I honestly don't really care about what you do one way or another - but it rained outside all afternoon and as such, I was stuck inside.

I MOST DEFNIITELY think you are a DICK, SIR.

!!!~~!!!!!! ~

[snifs]

I MOST DEFNIITELY think you are a DICK, SIR.

!!!~~!!!!!! ~

Ditto

[Toony]

...offended your delicate sensibilities.

teh ironyz.

[astarothel]

Loke's the dick that said what everyone was thinking.
We're all dicks too.
Guess what.
Dicks fuck pussies.
It's the ciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiircle of liiiiiiiiffffe.

[ShadowWulf]

Why have peoples helpful attitudes gone to shit lately? The forums are full of vile spite lately, in EVERY section.

Cheer up people. Need a hug?

[frefaln]

Seriously.

[HippoNipple]

Yeah I honestly don't see the point in the harsh responses to the new guy asking how the end game is on this server. A lot of people complain about it so sometimes you wonder what it's going to be like once you are 50 as you are leveling up. I probably wouldn't take my free time to make the post.. but like now I'm at work and looking for some time to kill.

I decided I don't care what it is like and will be leveling to 50 either way but I admit that I'm not as excited to hit 50 after hearing all the hot spots are camped 100% of the time and certain guilds horde it to themselves. It's not like I expect the higher end guilds to act any different, its just how it is on classic, not much space at the end game for all the level 50's.

[BeepBeep]

Oh me oh my,
what do we have here?
general concern,
or someone who doesn't care.

yo yo yo everyone,
this is the new Beep album,
coming atcha' like eminem, recoveryyyyyy

I'm glad to see,
someone is worried about me,
my self personally,
I buff the newbie, in EC

Will the Beep army, please stand up, please stand up.

Either way,
does it really matter
it's not like,
it'll stop frenzy from going *splatter*

I could type more,
and post some rararar
or I could stop now,
and say tl;dr

[rioisk]

I sort of agree with Loke, although I might not be so harsh. Lots of folks sort of have this toe in the water attitude. "What class should I play. Am I going to enjoy this? Is 20 hours enough time to play each week? Am I going to get carpal tunnel? I prefer walking backwards instead of forward, will that work here on P99? If a halfling druid falls in the forest, does it make a sound?" Seriously, just play and have fun.

The forums are like maybe 25% of what's actually happening on the server. The most outspoken people are complaining about things, the concentration of negative energy seems to dwell here.

People are rational. They want to optimize their investment (time played) to maximize return (fun). This guy simply wanted to know whether investing his time (leveling a character/gearing him) is worth the fun/value that the game will deliver or whether the end-game is so uber-competitive that he will just lose interest after a while. These types of questions go hand in hand with people asking about xp bonus/penalty, class/race selection, etc, because people want to maximize their play-time while also ensuring a good long term investment.

Example: People ask whether they should play a druid because druids are overabundant because they want to see if the amount of druids on the sever inhibits new-entry into the class. It's rational. Why play a druid if there is no long-term value in terms of getting into raid guilds or groups.

You may laugh hysterically at this analysis but the economic decision underlies all choices. It just so happens that many people see maximization as faster leveling, easy farming, groupability, soloability, and raid potential, with unique class/race as a small component.

[Loke]

Stuff

I know someone whose taken Intro to Microeconomics!

[astarothel]

This guy simply wanted to know whether investing his time (leveling a character/gearing him) is worth the fun/value that the game will deliver or whether the end-game is so uber-competitive that he will just lose interest after a while.

The guy asked for something no one other than him would be able to find the answer to.
One individual cannot measure the fun/value another person will experience.

It is inherently far more subjective than a simple question on race/exp penalty, or class/race selection.

[Oogmog]

OP posts some valid questions, entitled to his opinion. Loke didn't like it, responds how he sees fit because the subject seems repetitive to him and it annoys him, then you have the typical sackriders out in full force. Maybe someone should make a thread about that. Er, wait, there already is one..

[Swishahouse]

I currently roll an enchanter, and as the levels climb, their ability to solo suffers, so I will likely be reliant on groups.

Their solo ability goes up. I personally know enchanters who solo some of the best paying and most pist camps in the game........

[Dantes]

People are rational. They want to optimize their investment (time played) to maximize return (fun). This guy simply wanted to know whether investing his time (leveling a character/gearing him) is worth the fun/value that the game will deliver or whether the end-game is so uber-competitive that he will just lose interest after a while. These types of questions go hand in hand with people asking about xp bonus/penalty, class/race selection, etc, because people want to maximize their play-time while also ensuring a good long term investment.

Example: People ask whether they should play a druid because druids are overabundant because they want to see if the amount of druids on the sever inhibits new-entry into the class. It's rational. Why play a druid if there is no long-term value in terms of getting into raid guilds or groups.

You may laugh hysterically at this analysis but the economic decision underlies all choices. It just so happens that many people see maximization as faster leveling, easy farming, groupability, soloability, and raid potential, with unique class/race as a small component.

This does make me chuckle. It's a 10 year old game. We're ALL wasting time no matter what we do. This is like being obsessed about what color MC Hammer pants you should wear. (solid gold is obviously the answer)

[rioisk]

This does make me chuckle. It's a 10 year old game. We're ALL wasting time no matter what we do. This is like being obsessed about what color MC Hammer pants you should wear. (solid gold is obviously the answer)

E-peens have no age.

[Theldios]

This does make me chuckle. It's a 10 year old game. We're ALL wasting time no matter what we do. This is like being obsessed about what color MC Hammer pants you should wear. (solid gold is obviously the answer)

You sir are Wrong! Black and Purple is the color of obvious choice

[Droxx]

Honestly, I've been 50 since late November. I also have a 50 paladin. I haven't been in a guild since February. I'm still having a blast. There's tons of things to do. This game is what you make of it, really.

[nicemace]

I currently roll an enchanter, and as the levels climb, their ability to solo suffers, so I will likely be reliant on groups.

are you kidding?? enchanters rock the party at soloing. as soon as you hit 39 soloing to 50 is the easisest thing in the world and at 50 you can solo any of the premium camps in dungeons.

grouping is for the weak.

[Ruinous]

Your first step towards enjoying the server more is to stop entering R&F or coming to the forums period. My first impression from the server was pretty poor when I took the time to read all the negative posts that are made here on a daily basis.

Then I closed Firefox, got in the game, and found that I actually enjoyed myself despite the constant bickering that is being done here. Sure, there's constant arguments about raiding at level 50. Guess what? You have 49 levels to enjoy before you even get to that point. And if it doesn't work out to your liking, then re-roll, tradeskill, quest, help noobs, wait til kunark, or just quit.

It seems like you are reading into this a bit too much imho, just play and enjoy yourself.

[Wonton]

Your first step towards enjoying the server more is to stop entering R&F or coming to the forums period. My first impression from the server was pretty poor when I took the time to read all the negative posts that are made here on a daily basis.

Then I closed Firefox, got in the game, and found that I actually enjoyed myself despite the constant bickering that is being done here. Sure, there's constant arguments about raiding at level 50. Guess what? You have 49 levels to enjoy before you even get to that point. And if it doesn't work out to your liking, then re-roll, tradeskill, quest, help noobs, wait til kunark, or just quit.

It seems like you are reading into this a bit too much imho, just play and enjoy yourself.

+1

[frefaln]

Honestly, I've been 50 since late November. I also have a 50 paladin. I haven't been in a guild since February. I'm still having a blast. There's tons of things to do. This game is what you make of it, really.

This is where the thread (and the game itself) begins and ends. EQ truly is what you make of it, and as long as you have even the slightest hint of social skills the possibilities are endless.

It disheartens me to see some of my in-game friends get so disgruntled that they just up and quit. Some get frustrated with the way people act (very understandable, see earlier posts in this thread for reference). Some question what the point of the XP grind is. Some are truly, clinically obsessed with getting XP at the fastest rate possible and they have no interest in reaping any social rewards from the game whatsoever.

Me? I don't care what gear I have. I care even less what gear you have. I don't care whether there's a hybrid in my group slowing the XP rate. I don't care if the group wipes — as long as the group was having fun and/or taking some risks in the process. If I'm stuck in a group that can't be bothered to communicate beyond INC messages and heal macros, forget it, I'll be on my way.

I've had a blast at just about every level so far because this is my priority set. I'm not waiting until level 50 to decide it's time to have fun. Give me a group of level 2 toons with personalities over stuck-up uber-geared snots any day of the week.

[Overcast]

Your first step towards enjoying the server more is to stop entering R&F or coming to the forums period. My first impression from the server was pretty poor when I took the time to read all the negative posts that are made here on a daily basis.

Then I closed Firefox, got in the game, and found that I actually enjoyed myself despite the constant bickering that is being done here. Sure, there's constant arguments about raiding at level 50. Guess what? You have 49 levels to enjoy before you even get to that point. And if it doesn't work out to your liking, then re-roll, tradeskill, quest, help noobs, wait til kunark, or just quit.

It seems like you are reading into this a bit too much imho, just play and enjoy yourself.

+2

But seriously. As more people level and more guilds form or gain people - more spawns will be camped.

*rolls an old wooden cup, spilling bones on the dusty floor*

But the BONES speak to me... I see in the near future a new wondrous land may be discovered. Perhaps then, many of the spawns will be quickly vacated.

I doubt you'll have issues finding groups. Even for those who are hell bent on raiding, they need to level still.

[Ripcord]

Dear beepbeep, that was awesome. I want to make babies with you. The end.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Back in classic, Paladin named Loevon gave me the best piece of advice I had had in eq, and that was "don't go to the forums".

SCB, just enjoy the game and ignore the bs. I too figured after 12 years the population would have grown up, but it seems WoW has transferred.... or the same kiddy bs. That being said, sometimes just because they are ranting or flaming doesn't mean it isn't something worth being looked at, or they don't have a legitimate beef. Not everyone is a dick, and most of the ones whom you seem to refer to won't be involved in your gameplay anyway.

I know I sure hope when I get myself to 50 and into the raid scene any wankers will have moved on, at least to a different zone.

I love the how play nice became play nice. errr forget that just be wankers and act like you are playing wow as a 12 yr old.

[Paxton]

People are rational. They want to optimize their investment (time played) to maximize return (fun). This guy simply wanted to know whether investing his time (leveling a character/gearing him) is worth the fun/value that the game will deliver or whether the end-game is so uber-competitive that he will just lose interest after a while.

I'm a super rational and logical person. I relate to this train of thought on a personal level. That being said, if you're putting this much analysis/thought/consideration into whether or not you should play, you probably shouldn't. You're not in the right place for this, and you're looking for an excuse to not do it.

[UncleDread]

I have played EQ from the beginning of Beta and alot of players say they have ,But I'm very sure most of them lie.I'm here to tell you the good loot has always been camped and fought over since the start of Everquest.Obtaining Jboots in LS was the worst exp. ever.It was so bad they had a GM sit in zone 24/7 watching players.After doing about everything possible on EQ to level 85,I have come to a conclusion I don't play EQ for loot but just for the plain enjoyment of interaction with other players.I hate to say it but Drama really make EQ worth playing.If it wasn't for all the computation and drama this game would be a pure drag.Watching a pure solo running into Unrest and Mistmoore and beaning greed by about 20 undead.Then this pure solo runs for his/her life too zone while the whole house stacks to zone and seeing people freak out is pretty funny to watch.Take this advise from one of the longest playing players of EQ,Just chill and enjoy the humor and the friendships you gain in your travels.The high end gear is not that great and you will always obtain it in time.There no piece of gear in game worth ruining your fun.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Obviously theguyy is a troll, but I would just like to say that I don't wipe raids because I'm awesome at EQ. Also, if you're paying someone $15 a month to play here I think you're doing something wrong (unless you're donating, then you're doing something right!).

Honestly, if you want to think I'm a dick, go for it - I think a number of people here that know me would disagree - but whatever. I just don't understand why you need to come here and make a post about whether or not you should play. No one here knows you, and as such, how could we possibly know what will or will not be considered fun to you. Why do our opinions matter to you? Do what you think is fun, and if it isn't - stop doing it. There is no need to come here and make posts which insinuate that you're afraid you cannot come here and enjoy the game because everyone who raids is an immature asshole (which is basically what I got from your initial post).

As far as why I replied to your post as opposed to just ignoring it - mostly it's boredom. I honestly don't really care about what you do one way or another - but it rained outside all afternoon and as such, I was stuck inside.

Having rezzed Loke many, many times, I can assure you he's not THAT good at this game :P

[Omnimorph]

Outside of raiding, at 50 you have maybe 2 things you can do. Farm things or create an alt. There is maybe 2 camps that would be challenging for you at that level, and I use the term challenging very loosely.

You can camp efreeti ... and ... erm ... fire giants maybe, if they're not already killed.

[Loke]

Having rezzed Loke many, many times, I can assure you he's not THAT good at this game :P

Hahaha!

[fohkure]

Everyone is too angry in here, so here is a picture of a flower that I took to make everyone feel happy again!

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i216/ChrisCarrigan/IMGP0474.jpg

Kure

[Zithax]

cool thread idiot

[Overcast]

Take this advise from one of the longest playing players of EQ,Just chill and enjoy the humor and the friendships you gain in your travels.The high end gear is not that great and you will always obtain it in time.There no piece of gear in game worth ruining your fun.

Yeah, I don't get some people.

Same gear is in EQLive and more, if gear's the goal. Be faster to get it there too.

To me, this server is about - something other than gear. If you are here for a challenge, social interaction, nostalgia, etc - cool.

If you are here for gear.. umm, lol. There's a couple places where it gets handed out, practically for free:

EQLIVE that way >>>
<<< WoW that way

[azeth]

Gear in context is the goal, not just gear.

Sure I can run VZ/TZ and be 75 in a day w/ elemental gear, however this is completely out of context since *every other player is equipped similarly.

My wife and I are playing P1999 with the intent on getting rich and farming gear. Why? Because this is what we did in 1999 and its fun as shit.

[Malrubius]

Honestly, I've been 50 since late November. I also have a 50 paladin. I haven't been in a guild since February. I'm still having a blast. There's tons of things to do. This game is what you make of it, really.

^this

I *might* see my first level 50 character by the time Velious comes out - if then. Right now, I have one 16 and one 17. I too am having an absolute blast.

So yeah, that's the beauty of this game - there's something for everyone and every style of play.

Don't sweat what might happen some day. Have fun today. If you are playing this game for "some day" then you are playing it for the wrong reason.

[Senadin]

I came to EQ Classic simply because I like playing EQ. I have little/no interest in raiding (I raid 4 nights a week in WoW currently), but absolutely love the challenging group content in EQ.

My worry is that as I level, my enjoyment will lessen considerably. Essentially all I see on the forums is that high-end content is permanently camped, raid bosses are fought over constantly (something that rarely, if ever, happened on my EQ server back in the day- we had a serverwide raid calendar), people refuse to group with hybrids or people with racial xp penalties, etc.

..snip


Well the raid content has always been contested up to a point in EQ. Folks do Vox/Naggy, expension comes out.... the top dog move to the new raid content and it "SHOULD, Somewhat anyway" clear the lower level content to lesser guilds. Anyone who raided before knows that. Will it changes here? Probably not by a whole lot. It probably DID happen on your server too back in the days, at least it happened on mine. VT, Dragons, Giants, fire Potime etc etc... it is often contested and frankly this is what made the game partly fun.

If you've played and raided before, this is something you should know.

/shrug

[Shewz]

People are rational. They want to optimize their investment (time played) to maximize return (fun). This guy simply wanted to know whether investing his time (leveling a character/gearing him) is worth the fun/value that the game will deliver or whether the end-game is so uber-competitive that he will just lose interest after a while.

You may laugh hysterically at this analysis but the economic decision underlies all choices.

I play P1999, so I'm a virgin, but if I WERE to have sex I would definitely ask my lady friend every detail about her openness to anal, appreciation of tentacle rape fantasies, and whether System of a Down turns her on PREFERABLY on the first date so as not to waste my investment (time wooing) only to be disappointed when my return (bukkake) ends up being a solo gig.

Don't let these Hatars hate on your 'nomics brah.

[zenoo]

If you don't want to be competitive you probably won't be able to raid in old style EQ. Still a few raids once in a while and a lot of interesting single group content makes EQ more than worth the time investment.

Are people really complaining about negativity in a flames forum?