To the guilds clearing Freeti cycle...

[mrmop520]

It would be nice to leave island 2 popped at least once..

This marks the 3rd week in a row where we're unable to get keys to 3.. (yes we normally skip to 4 but keyed clerics vanished today) and our sky raid is unable to do anything. I understand Freeti cycle is independent of guild scheduling, and FC would be there contesting if it wasnt 4:30PM ESt on a work day :/ Guess it just sucks to have the one day where we don't have to step on toes (and receive the wraith of multiple guild alliances :P) to raid sky ruined.

Its great the guilds have all agreed to treat sky as a scheduled raid zone, it just seems there isn't much respect to leaving essential islands popped when the Freeti cycle occurs. And yeah 2 isn't too essential.. obviously we're shooting for 5/6 and beyond, but 3 weeks of no island 2 and our keys are severely lacking 2->3.

Guess all im saying is.. wheres the next server repop so another guild gets their sky day shat upon :P

[Vadd]

Maybe another guild wouldn't mind lettin u guys get their extra keys?

Who knows!

[mrmop520]

Maybe another guild wouldn't mind lettin u guys get their extra keys?

Who knows!

Well if they would just stop killing island 2 haha. It serves no purpose outside of a Sirran spawn in the efreeti cycle (1.5, 4, 8)

[arsenalpow]

they pull to 2, so the azaracks have to go away to make that easier

[Clark]

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[Boilon]

you honestly think anyone on this server would play cooperatively Ramblin? You should know better then that :P

[Clark]

you honestly think anyone on this server would play cooperatively Ramblin? You should know better then that :P

http://s12.postimg.org/f38t0z41p/correct1.jpg

[Chloroform]

It would be nice to leave island 2 popped at least once..

This marks the 3rd week in a row where we're unable to get keys to 3.. (yes we normally skip to 4 but keyed clerics vanished today) and our sky raid is unable to do anything. I understand Freeti cycle is independent of guild scheduling, and FC would be there contesting if it wasnt 4:30PM ESt on a work day :/ Guess it just sucks to have the one day where we don't have to step on toes (and receive the wraith of multiple guild alliances :P) to raid sky ruined.

Its great the guilds have all agreed to treat sky as a scheduled raid zone, it just seems there isn't much respect to leaving essential islands popped when the Freeti cycle occurs. And yeah 2 isn't too essential.. obviously we're shooting for 5/6 and beyond, but 3 weeks of no island 2 and our keys are severely lacking 2->3.

Guess all im saying is.. wheres the next server repop so another guild gets their sky day shat upon :P

hmm, i see your issue. sorry for THIS weeks inconvenience, but last 2 weeks wasn't tmo.

in our defense its hard to leave island 2 up considering its in a central location of the zone. Also at that particular raid i was unaware of your set schedule as the raid leader, i consider that my fault and mine alone(not TMO as a whole) My suggestion is key corpse's and keeping on top of them. Also PST to anyone in TMO a bit of communication goes a long way. again its my fault for not knowing about the set sky raids in the Raid discussion thread.

ive had a key corpse in sky for about 4 months going strong, i refresh it usually a day early just so i dont have to beg ppl last min. If u feel u cant make it to your corpse and the day of rott or the day before, do it 2 or 3 days before rott. its not as difficult as your making it out to be, i guess im a super nerd and feel the importance of having my key corpse.

im down to try to keep things civil

Please Keep in mind 23rd was repop im guessing divinity cleared nobles and im guessing island 2
the 30th divinity did clear nobles and im guessing island 2
the 7th was tmo, and i led the raid and wasn't aware of the set sky schedule. i dont usually lead raids not looking for excuses but just pointing out it wasnt 1 guild sharting on your raid 3 weeks in a row its a combination of guilds on this server!

[Chloroform]

you honestly think anyone on this server would play cooperatively Ramblin? You should know better then that :P

har har har, negative nelly opinions belong in RNF. if u feel you must rant and flame, there is a special place for you.

This was a simple miss understanding. And I for one outta the many who play on this server do want to play cooperatively. I cant speak for the rest of my fellow guildies, but our intentions are pure, and we do our best to play by the server rules.

[Skope]

I spoke to Fillip about this and told him we'd give you guys one of our days for the lower islands if you guys would like. The two times before TMO it was us who cleared the cycle. It really sucks, but you do have to take 2 down in order to /corpse to 4.

you honestly think anyone on this server would play cooperatively Ramblin? You should know better then that :P

We've played cooperatively :P When we clear the islands we try let the guild know beforehand and work something out so the guild that's getting screwed doesn't get completely screwed.

[mrmop520]

Aalpha - Yes I know about key corpsing, and we have a crew that maintains them. Just was an unlucky turnout and we had to rely upon non-keyed cleric alts, and the necros were all missing that 2->3 key. I wasn't just calling out TMO for this, i'm aware divinity cleared it the 2 weeks prior, hence why i posted on the forums so all guilds that try for these mobs are aware that they can impact other's set days. This was just the first time we've been unable to do anything as a result :) On the sky scheduling, check out the guild forums its displayed pretty clearly and has been treated much more seriously since I returned to the game (febuary or so) than i recall it being a month or two prior.

Skope- It's actually faster to /corpse from 2->4 with azaraks up if you leave a rogue down there to drag the people that dont die in the right spot, and removes the problematic 7min corpse timer (at 4% xp loss hehe).. but I do understand clearing it.
Thanks for the offer on the lower islands :) If I wasn't swamped with 5 final papers due this week i'd jump on that opportunity tonight! (vianna/kristiana and fillip are ones to contact this week while im busy)

[mrmop520]

you honestly think anyone on this server would play cooperatively Ramblin? You should know better then that :P

Haha well...

Honestly the responses i've received from this thread have pointed towards guilds wanting to cooperate and not step on others too much even when competing for the weekly freeti cycle... IMO its been nice having set schedules for Sky, although once that 8th guild wants in who knows what happens :D

[Chloroform]

Next week, i highly suggest having someone from your guild cleric or necro what ever it be, that plans on attending your scheduled raid to come to island 2 with whom ever is attempting to kill Freeti's in order to key up. We can also help with keys from 3 to 4 via island 2.

communication is a must in order for everyone to be happy

[Boilon]

Haha well...

Honestly the responses i've received from this thread have pointed towards guilds wanting to cooperate and not step on others too much even when competing for the weekly freeti cycle... IMO its been nice having set schedules for Sky, although once that 8th guild wants in who knows what happens :D

Well I wish more people were like this then. The reason Europa stopped doing Sky was due to constant disappointment on our long held day because of a guild that I shall not say who decided to go up before us 3 weeks in a row. Was getting a bit tiresome. But hey, maybe things are changed now and I hope that they are for the other guilds :)

[Kegir]

Fast forward 2 weeks. FC goes up a couple hours early to get our lower island keys and trigger the KOS spawn timer only to have TMO take Gorg and our triggered KoS.

The blatant disregard for smaller guilds is getting old.

[maverixdamighty]

Fast forward 2 weeks. FC goes up a couple hours early to get our lower island keys and trigger the KOS spawn timer only to have TMO take Gorg and our triggered KoS.

The blatant disregard for smaller guilds is getting old.

if you trigger KoS you should petition...

[xarzzardorn]

tmo knows better; not FC's KOS. sorry for the inconvenience FC

[Vianna]

Honestly, today was just blatant and very disrespectful. I am not one to point fingers generally and I have stayed largely out of the whole "Blame TMO" for the server problems threads. Today was very eye opening to say the least. Not only did they pull KoS as soon as he spawned but whoever pulled him first died and KoS was right on top a few in our raid and killed people in our raid. While we were rezzing those people they pulled him again and killed him after a few exchanges in OOC.

No offense to anyone in TMO not a party of this... But that was pretty blatant raid interference and you killed a mob you had no rights to just to disturb a simple sky raid. We were rekeying some people for 5 who because of the events first told in this thread needed new keys. They assured that wouldn't happen with just plain vindictive actions. I really am at a loss I just don't get why anyone acts that way when you guys weren't keying up for 5 or planning to do anything else up there after pulling KoS. It was simply to interfere with what other people were doing... I guess because you thought it was hilarious in some form. Good job you griefed Full Circle today for giggles.

[mrmop520]

Honestly, today was just blatant and very disrespectful. I am not one to point fingers generally and I have stayed largely out of the whole "Blame TMO" for the server problems threads. Today was very eye opening to say the least. Not only did they pull KoS as soon as he spawned but whoever pulled him first died and KoS was right on top a few in our raid and killed people in our raid. While we were rezzing those people they pulled him again and killed him after a few exchanges in OOC.

No offense to anyone in TMO not a party of this... But that was pretty blatant raid interference and you killed a mob you had no rights to just to disturb a simple sky raid. We were rekeying some people for 5 who because of the events first told in this thread needed new keys. They assured that wouldn't happen with just plain vindictive actions. I really am at a loss I just don't get why anyone acts that way when you guys weren't keying up for 5 or planning to do anything else up there after pulling KoS. It was simply to interfere with what other people were doing... I guess because you thought it was hilarious in some form. Good job you griefed Full Circle today for giggles.

100% accurate. I wonder how they will spin this.

[arsenalpow]

Honestly, today was just blatant and very disrespectful. I am not one to point fingers generally and I have stayed largely out of the whole "Blame TMO" for the server problems threads. Today was very eye opening to say the least. Not only did they pull KoS as soon as he spawned but whoever pulled him first died and KoS was right on top a few in our raid and killed people in our raid. While we were rezzing those people they pulled him again and killed him after a few exchanges in OOC.

No offense to anyone in TMO not a party of this... But that was pretty blatant raid interference and you killed a mob you had no rights to just to disturb a simple sky raid. We were rekeying some people for 5 who because of the events first told in this thread needed new keys. They assured that wouldn't happen with just plain vindictive actions. I really am at a loss I just don't get why anyone acts that way when you guys weren't keying up for 5 or planning to do anything else up there after pulling KoS. It was simply to interfere with what other people were doing... I guess because you thought it was hilarious in some form. Good job you griefed Full Circle today for giggles.

TMO enjoys griefing, let's see some of the pub chat directed at their current primary opponent FE

[Tue May 21 16:53:11 2013] Eccezan shouts, 'FACT: Every guild that Lilyanna has ever been in has died.'
[Tue May 21 16:53:23 2013] Sworen shouts, 'FACT: thats funny.'
[Tue May 21 16:53:48 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'You could say that for every officer in FE acutally...'
[Tue May 21 16:53:57 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'Former BDA/VD/IB burn outs'
[Tue May 21 16:54:21 2013] Zenorek shouts, 'VD ever counted as guild?'
[Tue May 21 16:54:35 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'When you have to join/make FOUR guilds to fight TMO with'
[Tue May 21 16:54:46 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'you know you should quit and go play on sleeper'

and then some conversation with Full Circle
[Tue May 21 17:03:13 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'thanks for takin our gorgalusk guys :('
[Tue May 21 17:03:24 2013] Xarzzardorn says out of character, 'hes on isle 2 if u want him'
[Tue May 21 17:03:34 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'alive still?'
[Tue May 21 17:03:40 2013] Quickfingers says out of character, 'Define..Alive'
[Tue May 21 17:05:19 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'talking about loot. had an agreement with aalpha to not kill the non-freeti cycle mobs b/c it fucks up the rotation'
[Tue May 21 17:05:37 2013] Sworen says out of character, 'think thats true until you attempt ooa and wipe :P'
[Tue May 21 17:05:38 2013] Quickfingers says out of character, 'True but you guys attempted out OOA'

[Note from Chest: Full Circle had like 12 people in Sky, obviously not a force capable of beating Overseer. I think Dreamreaper aggroed him accidentally or something, i'm unsure of the circumstances of him getting DTed]

[Chloroform]

Honestly, today was just blatant and very disrespectful. I am not one to point fingers generally and I have stayed largely out of the whole "Blame TMO" for the server problems threads. Today was very eye opening to say the least. Not only did they pull KoS as soon as he spawned but whoever pulled him first died and KoS was right on top a few in our raid and killed people in our raid. While we were rezzing those people they pulled him again and killed him after a few exchanges in OOC.

No offense to anyone in TMO not a party of this... But that was pretty blatant raid interference and you killed a mob you had no rights to just to disturb a simple sky raid. We were rekeying some people for 5 who because of the events first told in this thread needed new keys. They assured that wouldn't happen with just plain vindictive actions. I really am at a loss I just don't get why anyone acts that way when you guys weren't keying up for 5 or planning to do anything else up there after pulling KoS. It was simply to interfere with what other people were doing... I guess because you thought it was hilarious in some form. Good job you griefed Full Circle today for giggles.

I wasnt there, so i don't really have a legit argument. But i will say TMO did not kill KoS to simply interfere with what your guild was planning on doing. Nor did they think it was hilarious in some form, or for giggles. TMO killed KoS for its rare drops, plain and simple. and I'm sure it was a TMO spawned KoS{again i wasnt there, but its common for us to pull a Soul Carrier as soon as we port to sky. I dont see us stealing your mob.}

Last week we worked things out, between I whom lead last weeks raid and an FC raid leader. Did you guys even communicate with the TMO raid leader via tells?

i think this is a huge misunderstanding, but then i wasnt there so i could be way off.

[Enygma]

Honestly, today was just blatant and very disrespectful. I am not one to point fingers generally and I have stayed largely out of the whole "Blame TMO" for the server problems threads. Today was very eye opening to say the least. Not only did they pull KoS as soon as he spawned but whoever pulled him first died and KoS was right on top a few in our raid and killed people in our raid. While we were rezzing those people they pulled him again and killed him after a few exchanges in OOC.

No offense to anyone in TMO not a party of this... But that was pretty blatant raid interference and you killed a mob you had no rights to just to disturb a simple sky raid. We were rekeying some people for 5 who because of the events first told in this thread needed new keys. They assured that wouldn't happen with just plain vindictive actions. I really am at a loss I just don't get why anyone acts that way when you guys weren't keying up for 5 or planning to do anything else up there after pulling KoS. It was simply to interfere with what other people were doing... I guess because you thought it was hilarious in some form. Good job you griefed Full Circle today for giggles.

1. you are hugely misinformed - we killed the KoS trigger... thus we had every right to kill it.

2. you guys engaged OoA instead of killing GOrgolask. If you ask me you were biting off way more then you could chew and then wanted us to pity you and give you Gorg after you went for a mob that was within the 20 minute window. (remember how we respected your 20 minutes on Ragefire?)

Clearly a double standard. Stop QQ when you know you're wrong.

[Vianna]

I wasnt there, so i don't really have a legit argument. But i will say TMO did not kill KoS to simply interfere with what your guild was planning on doing. Nor did they think it was hilarious in some form, or for giggles. TMO killed KoS for its rare drops, plain and simple. and I'm sure it was a TMO spawned KoS{again i wasnt there, but its common for us to pull a Soul Carrier as soon as we port to sky. I dont see us stealing your mob.}

Last week we worked things out, between I whom lead last weeks raid and an FC raid leader. Did you guys even communicate with the TMO raid leader via tells?

i think this is a huge misunderstanding, but then i wasnt there so i could be way off.

TMO did not kill the first horse in SKY. We ported up cleared 1 and 2,corpsed to 4 and killed the first horse before anyone else was in zone. Good attempt at spin.

[Vianna]

1. you are hugely misinformed - we killed the KoS trigger... thus we had every right to kill it.

2. you guys engaged OoA instead of killing GOrgolask. If you ask me you were biting off way more then you could chew and then wanted us to pity you and give you Gorg after you went for a mob that was within the 20 minute window. (remember how we respected your 20 minutes on Ragefire?)

Clearly a double standard. Stop QQ when you know you're wrong.

Read my reply above. TMO pulled no isle 4 mobs at all in sky Prior to Overseer or KoS. We cleared them all. No one was in zone besides FC when most of Isle 4 was cleared. FC did not attempt to kill Overseer seriously we checked a damage parse to see what he does. Overseer had been up 22 minutes before that attempt as well. If we had seriously tried Overseer we would not have done it with 16 people in zone. Maybe do some /w alls next time to see that none of our healers ever died. No one was chewing off anything. Your spin is funny though.

[Vianna]

TMO did not kill the trigger on isle 4 in SKY. We ported up cleared 1 and 2,corpsed to 4 and killed the first horse before anyone else was in zone. Good attempt at spin. I have gotten along with you before Aalpha on several occasions. We were in sky well before anyone else to ensure this wouldn't happen. Our bases were covered on this. TMO did not pull or kill a trigger on 4. I am pretty sure GMs can check that too if we care to ask them. I have no problem with that. Considering we were on isle 4 clearing it before anyone else ported into Sky. I put a petition in lets see how the GMs handle it.

[radditsu]

Welcome to raiding guys! Sorry this happened to you... But expect it to happen to you.

[Enygma]

Read my reply above. TMO pulled no isle 4 mobs at all in sky Prior to Overseer or KoS. We cleared them all. No one was in zone besides FC when most of Isle 4 was cleared. FC did not attempt to kill Overseer seriously we checked a damage parse to see what he does. Overseer had been up 22 minutes before that attempt as well. If we had seriously tried Overseer we would not have done it with 16 people in zone. Maybe do some /w alls next time to see that none of our healers ever died. No one was chewing off anything. Your spin is funny though.

yes they did... we killed it on isle 1... I would not say things that were not true.

[Enygma]

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[Vianna]

yes they did... we killed it on isle 1... I would not say things that were not true.

You do realize that we were already on 4 and had killed mobs there by the time anyone had zoned into sky but us correct ? The first thing we did was pull and kill when we got on 4 and just sat and waited. You really think zoning into sky and pulling a mob from a isle a guild is already at automatically makes it ok EVEN if we hadn't killed the trigger already ? That is a very nice view you have of the server sir. Glad that you are entitled to anything you please and everyone else has to just deal with it. So sorry that we annoy you with our presence when we are ahead of you and in the right according to the server rules.

You were eye pulling so I imagine your guild easily saw us there. We weren't sitting there twiddling our thumbs and looking at mobs when we got up to 4. We had already cleared the trigger and was just waiting on a KoS spawn. this had to be evident to you or whomever was pulling (Again if what you say is true). Considering we were on 4 and cleared mobs before anyone was in the zone but us. It only takes a small amount of common sense (Just a small amount I know tough for ya but you can muster some if you really try!!!) to realize a guild isn't just sitting at 4 for no good reason.

Again though theoretically lets say we cleared nothing at all the 15 minutes we were on 4 before any other guild zoned into sky. I mean lets actually explore this fantasy world you live in where you think you are entitled to do as you please on this server and other people need to just accept it and move on. Why would any guild zone into sky.... See a raid in progress... and pull a trigger mob (Theoretically again because we had already cleared the trigger) ? Are you actually admitting you may very well be a douche-bag ? That you would zone into a sky raid already in progress and stop the progression of that guilds raid.... Just so you can maybe get 1 drop you need ? I mean that speaks very highly of your character there. Nothing else really needs to be typed here. Lets just wait to let a GM look into it shall we ?

[Emphase]

it doesn't matter who killed the first horse or not, if they killed trigger mob they get a 20 minute window. and its FTE on any mob basically. its all written in the rules

[Vianna]

it doesn't matter who killed the first horse or not, if they killed trigger mob they get a 20 minute window. and its FTE on any mob basically. its all written in the rules


We killed the trigger. End of story. Sorry I overreacted.

[Emphase]

oh i read that they killed the trigger mob, therefore they had 20 mins to engage. then yea, if you guys killed it its yours. but someone stated that they killed it . I do not = tmo

[xarzzardorn]

Read my reply above. TMO pulled no isle 4 mobs at all in sky Prior to Overseer or KoS. We cleared them all. No one was in zone besides FC when most of Isle 4 was cleared. FC did not attempt to kill Overseer seriously we checked a damage parse to see what he does. Overseer had been up 22 minutes before that attempt as well. If we had seriously tried Overseer we would not have done it with 16 people in zone. Maybe do some /w alls next time to see that none of our healers ever died. No one was chewing off anything. Your spin is funny though.

22 minutes is a lie. half your guild died for a 'dps check' or whatever you claim you were doing

[Tue May 21 17:34:49 2013] Awayken tries to punch Noble Dojorn, but misses!

noble still alive til about 15 seconds after that ^

[Tue May 21 17:52:25 2013] Overseer of Air shouts 'LLOG'
[Tue May 21 17:53:12 2013] Overseer of Air shouts 'DREAMREAPER'

just like the rest of the zone we pulled KoS ph to a different island

[Tue May 21 17:18:29 2013] Sworen tells the guild, 'ASSIST ME ON - ( a soul carrier )'
[Tue May 21 17:19:39 2013] Sworen tells the guild, 'ASSIST ME ON - ( a soul harvester )'

[Tue May 21 18:47:28 2013] Keeper of Souls shouts 'RADEN'

KoS spawn time is 65-100 minutes after ph dies

if you really think tmo killed a soul carrier after you (has to be a carrier) petition the gms and they'll sort out the drops. kos seemed to spawn right on schedule for us. why would you complain about gorg if you were already on 4 anyway? your posts are so filled with misinformation it's impossible to believe anything you say.

at worst killing KoS was an honest mistake. but it seems you're just looking for a reason to cry

[Vianna]

22 minutes is a lie. half your guild died for a 'dps check' or whatever you claim you were doing

[Tue May 21 17:34:49 2013] Awayken tries to punch Noble Dojorn, but misses!

noble still alive til about 15 seconds after that ^

[Tue May 21 17:52:25 2013] Overseer of Air shouts 'LLOG'
[Tue May 21 17:53:12 2013] Overseer of Air shouts 'DREAMREAPER'

just like the rest of the zone we pulled KoS ph to a different island

[Tue May 21 17:18:29 2013] Sworen tells the guild, 'ASSIST ME ON - ( a soul carrier )'
[Tue May 21 17:19:39 2013] Sworen tells the guild, 'ASSIST ME ON - ( a soul harvester )'

[Tue May 21 18:47:28 2013] Keeper of Souls shouts 'RADEN'

KoS spawn time is 65-100 minutes after ph dies

if you really think tmo killed a soul carrier after you (has to be a carrier) petition the gms and they'll sort out the drops. kos seemed to spawn right on schedule for us. why would you complain about gorg if you were already on 4 anyway? your posts are so filled with misinformation it's impossible to believe anything you say.

at worst killing KoS was an honest mistake. but it seems you're just looking for a reason to cry

Are you seriously defending this ? And with that ? Oh boy. Yes a Petition is put in in game and on the forums already so it will be taken care of. Show the /w logs from those times we supposedly lost half our DPS to Overseer...PLEASE post it. Also as stated by countless people here we were not attempting to kill Overseer (This was told to people in YOUR GUILD too).

Your defense is "We zoned up after you guys were already at 4 and sitting there and obviously cleared mobs but since the KoS mob has a 35 minute variance he died in OUR window". Seriously don't try to defend this and look like a douche-bag as well. Telling people they are looking for reasons to cry after people in your guild shit on them and the time they spent in sky preparing for the raid ? WTF ??? Seriously do you feel that entitled to be that pretentious about people's time and effort that people in your guild intentionally wrecked ? AFTER a discussion had already been had about Gorga ? Seriously just stfu and stop making yourself look this self-centered.

[Vianna]

Also just to bring this back to a calm response. Let me paint a picture of what happened. TMO members zoned into SKY. TMO obviously did a /w all.. guilds generally do on arrival. TMO sees us there... And by your own admission....Pulls a soul carrier ? They don't send the other guild a tell.... They don't ask "Hey are you guys on 4 clearing ?". I mean you used an eye to pull 4 from 1 you would have seen us there. Yet now TMO is saying "It was just miscommunication guys".

Who is responsible for communication at that point ? Not us we were already at 4 clearing. Half of TMOs guild however knows Tuesday is the day we do SKY. I mean we worked to get keys from 2 back last week with some of you. Yet TMOs response to this (Knowing Tuesday was the day we do sky) was to immediately pull 4 when entering Sky ? I mean everyone has posted in the Sky day raid thread. We all know who has what day. Well for the most part we know. You guys posting here knew. Yet somehow the miscommunication is our fault right ? We are just crying to be crying. It was just a simple misunderstanding that could have been solved with communication had FC simply sent TMO a tell..... Yet that was TMOs responsibility to send a tell since they zoned into a zone with an ongoing raid. Not the other way around. So please brush up on your communication skills TMO =).

[Servellious]

Never come between another player and their pixels ever, even when you are right

[Vianna]

Well obviously this thread is where we attempted to communicate with people and get this resolved so there were no further problems on the day we raid sky. I hate to say it but TMO's response to trying to resolve a problem is "Zone into Sky and try to pull the trigger before the guild already raiding sky". Even after the guild has made a thread on the forums to work it out..... Sent tells to Officers and other people in their guild to work it out.... Worked with a few of their guildies to get rekeyed for key isles in sky to fix problems already caused. Then after people in FC have done all this it is still just a miscommunication that FC could have cleared up by messaging TMO. Except for the fact we already have.

It is a pretty unique solution they came up with resolving the problems though. I mean when I want to be helpful to other guilds and people in the game I simply attempt to pull the mobs they need for keys in sky as soon as I zone in and see them there. Then I come to the forums.... ON A THREAD WHERE THAT GUILD IS CLEARLY TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH MY GUILD AND OTHERS..... and tell them it was a communication problem. Gotta give it to em for being original though.

[AenarieFenninRo]

I have no knowledge of the situation with KoS as I wasn't up in sky early enough to get the timers for all of that, but here's what I got related to all the OOA stuff...


my logs show:
[Tue May 21 17:35:20 2013] Noble Dojorn has been slain by Barlow!


At this point we went up to island 2, which was EMPTY. You say you were on Island 4.


[Tue May 21 17:39:38 2013] Overseer of Air shouts 'JERKY'

[Tue May 21 17:52:45 2013] Overseer of Air shouts 'LLOG'
[Tue May 21 17:53:32 2013] Overseer of Air shouts 'DREAMREAPER'
[Tue May 21 17:53:59 2013] Sworen tells the guild, '7 fc'
[Tue May 21 17:54:40 2013] Raden tells the guild, 'OoA reset'

regardless of /camping out, or dying from an engage, you dropped from 16 in zone to 7... possibly lower, just going from statements in log though. If nobody had engaged OoA, they would not have had to log out...

[Tue May 21 17:57:05 2013] Sericx says out of character, '20 mins up=)'

If you're on Island 4, and a non-KOS overseer is there, how do you get DT'd without initiating agro? I see two distinct engages there... To the best of my knowledge (and I could be wrong) OoA does not assist the griffons?


[Tue May 21 17:58:55 2013] Gorgalosk says 'I am sorry for your death, please accept my apologies! It was the keys that made me do it! I swear.' <-- gorg died about a second later, about 25 mins after you claim to be on island 4, which is already past Gorg
[Tue May 21 18:03:28 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'thanks for takin our gorgalusk guys :('
[Tue May 21 18:05:33 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'talking about loot. had an agreement with aalpha to not kill the non-freeti cycle mobs b/c it fucks up the rotation'
[Tue May 21 18:05:49 2013] Kapoon says out of character, 'did you attempt OOA?'
[Tue May 21 18:05:51 2013] Sworen says out of character, 'think thats true until you attempt ooa and wipe :P'
[Tue May 21 18:05:52 2013] Quickfingers says out of character, 'True but you guys attempted out OOA'
[Tue May 21 18:06:09 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'youall waited 20min b/c i assume FE got FTE'
[Tue May 21 18:06:26 2013] Phisting says out of character, 'we got FTE but FE likes to cry, so we played it safe'
[Tue May 21 18:08:08 2013] Pennand says out of character, 'that was last week wispy, aalpha not here this week... so it was never brought up to us'
[Tue May 21 18:08:27 2013] Kristiana says out of character, 'No Problem. Good luck '
[Tue May 21 18:08:31 2013] Quickfingers says out of character, 'TMO isnt scary you can talk to us before raid mobs happen, dont be shy.'
[Tue May 21 18:09:06 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'ahwell taking it to tells with yall's officers'

Zeelot then said in vent a few mins later, that we would not be pulling Gorg anymore because of potentially interfering with your raid, so obviously you worked things out...

So it all seems like it got worked out up there, and in tells with officers / leaders etc, and now you come here and complain? This isn't R&F!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

We have always been at war with Oceania

[Vianna]

I have no knowledge of the situation with KoS as I wasn't up in sky early enough to get the timers for all of that, but here's what I got related to all the OOA stuff...


my logs show:
[Tue May 21 17:35:20 2013] Noble Dojorn has been slain by Barlow!


At this point we went up to island 2, which was EMPTY. You say you were on Island 4.


[Tue May 21 17:39:38 2013] Overseer of Air shouts 'JERKY'

[Tue May 21 17:52:45 2013] Overseer of Air shouts 'LLOG'
[Tue May 21 17:53:32 2013] Overseer of Air shouts 'DREAMREAPER'
[Tue May 21 17:53:59 2013] Sworen tells the guild, '7 fc'
[Tue May 21 17:54:40 2013] Raden tells the guild, 'OoA reset'

regardless of /camping out, or dying from an engage, you dropped from 16 in zone to 7... possibly lower, just going from statements in log though. If nobody had engaged OoA, they would not have had to log out...

[Tue May 21 17:57:05 2013] Sericx says out of character, '20 mins up=)'

If you're on Island 4, and a non-KOS overseer is there, how do you get DT'd without initiating agro? I see two distinct engages there... To the best of my knowledge (and I could be wrong) OoA does not assist the griffons?


[Tue May 21 17:58:55 2013] Gorgalosk says 'I am sorry for your death, please accept my apologies! It was the keys that made me do it! I swear.' <-- gorg died about a second later, about 25 mins after you claim to be on island 4, which is already past Gorg
[Tue May 21 18:03:28 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'thanks for takin our gorgalusk guys :('
[Tue May 21 18:05:33 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'talking about loot. had an agreement with aalpha to not kill the non-freeti cycle mobs b/c it fucks up the rotation'
[Tue May 21 18:05:49 2013] Kapoon says out of character, 'did you attempt OOA?'
[Tue May 21 18:05:51 2013] Sworen says out of character, 'think thats true until you attempt ooa and wipe :P'
[Tue May 21 18:05:52 2013] Quickfingers says out of character, 'True but you guys attempted out OOA'
[Tue May 21 18:06:09 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'youall waited 20min b/c i assume FE got FTE'
[Tue May 21 18:06:26 2013] Phisting says out of character, 'we got FTE but FE likes to cry, so we played it safe'
[Tue May 21 18:08:08 2013] Pennand says out of character, 'that was last week wispy, aalpha not here this week... so it was never brought up to us'
[Tue May 21 18:08:27 2013] Kristiana says out of character, 'No Problem. Good luck '
[Tue May 21 18:08:31 2013] Quickfingers says out of character, 'TMO isnt scary you can talk to us before raid mobs happen, dont be shy.'
[Tue May 21 18:09:06 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'ahwell taking it to tells with yall's officers'

Zeelot then said in vent a few mins later, that we would not be pulling Gorg anymore because of potentially interfering with your raid, so obviously you worked things out...

So it all seems like it got worked out up there, and in tells with officers / leaders etc, and now you come here and complain? This isn't R&F!

Uh it did not get worked out or you guys wouldn't have sniped a mob we triggered. That is what we are addressing here. Also please see where we sent people in your guild tells about the OOA thing. I told several people in your guild about that. We weren't trying to kill him. We knew we couldn't kill OOA with 16 people. Notice how it is a select few who died. I was swapping out between my cleric and rogue at that time that is why I dropped from the /w. We cleared the trigger and were just hanging out. Knew it would be a few minutes before anyone was setup for OOA on 2. We had 2 clerics,1 warrior,2 monks,a rogue and an assortment of other classes we weren't going to kill OOA.

What we are addressing here is the clear evidence of where we have tried to communicate with guilds on the efreeti cycle about the day we do Sky. That is all that concerns us. You guys can go fight over Noble with whomever you want. We have exhausted a lot of measures to communicate with people in YOUR guild about Sky and the day we do it... And the response we have gotten (from people in your guild not saying everyone) is attempted trigger snipes....isle boss kills while we were waiting for you guys to finish the freeti cycle...KoS snipe after we triggered it on 4. We simply ask that it stop. I mean people in your guild have come in a thread where we clearly have tried communicating with people about this and admitted "We zoned into sky and tried to trigger snipe". Then use the excuse that he has a 65-100 minute variance to spawn as an excuse for them to kill it. When another guild is clearly already there raiding sky.

No this isn't R&F but hopefully it will show you how your actions are being viewed. A guild is trying to work with you to resolve issues that have come about and look at the responses we have gotten from your guild. "It's ok even if it was your sky day we tried to trigger snipe and it fell in the variance of when we killed the mob we pulled from 4". What else do we have to do here ? I mean we have tried continuously to work this out and it keeps happening. The only responses we get when a problem arises are basically ones of where we need to communicate more (Which we obviously are clearly communicating to everyone).

[mrmop520]

Yes after working out a deal with Zeelot to not screw over regular sky clears (following gorgalusk snipe), the order is given to pull Keeper of Souls (FC initiated) which screwed over our raid completely. Hmm.. EDIT -> all after discussions with Aalpha last tuesday, and Zagum on forums about this very issue.

[maverixdamighty]

regardless this thread is about not crapping on other people's raids while doing the efreeti cycle. tmo obviously did that....

[Skope]

Read my reply above. TMO pulled no isle 4 mobs at all in sky Prior to Overseer or KoS. We cleared them all. No one was in zone besides FC when most of Isle 4 was cleared. FC did not attempt to kill Overseer seriously we checked a damage parse to see what he does. Overseer had been up 22 minutes before that attempt as well. If we had seriously tried Overseer we would not have done it with 16 people in zone. Maybe do some /w alls next time to see that none of our healers ever died. No one was chewing off anything. Your spin is funny though.

Last time I remember something like this happening was quite a while ago, but maybe it helps:

Div and IB were in Sky on 4, both looking to get keeper. IB and Div both killed a mob and then IB essentially afk'd until KoS popped while we cleared the remainder of the island. They claimed that they killed the trigger first and thus had rights to KoS but Rogean decided that they hadn't actively participated in clearing the island, thus both guilds had a shot at KoS and it was FTE.

Either way it's pretty dickish to clear the lower islands and pull Gorg and KoS from FC if you were there for the noble cycle. When we've killed noble on somebody else's sky day we'd leave everything but 2 up and we'd let them know what we're after beforehand.

You can pull gorg from 4. In fact, you can pull pretty much anything to 4 if you know what you're doing. The fact that they were on 4 with Gorg up doesn't mean they didn't want it

[quido]

Let's make an arrangement so it just needs to be changed again once the server is reset =P I know some of you are going to hate me for saying this, but maybe you just shouldn't be in sky when the efreetis are coming

[feanan]

Did you try paying TMO to not mess up your raid?

Seems like pp and phat lewts all they understand...

[mrmop520]

Let's make an arrangement so it just needs to be changed again once the server is reset =P I know some of you are going to hate me for saying this, but maybe you just shouldn't be in sky when the efreetis are coming

So you're saying we give up our sky day and don't show to defend it. Well we're open to trading with your sunday slot but apparently that was denied. So give me a fucking break :P

[Autotune]

BE NICE TO US WHEN WE TRY TO TAKE YOUR MOBS!

[quido]

I'm just suggesting you face reality and realize that whatever day the freetis are spawning is probably not a good day to do sky.

[maverixdamighty]

I'm just suggesting you face reality and realize that whatever day the freetis are spawning is probably not a good day to do sky.

if you guys are keyed though it doesn't take much to leave the mobs outside of the cycle up out of respect, does it? Or atleast ask which they are planning on doing and kill the others while you are up there ex. they are only killing through spiroc lord so you also do 6+ in addition to the cycle.

[quido]

keys have nothing to do with it

will probably be different post patch here

[Taboo]

I think the bottom line is that most the higher guilds here chose a rotation for sky raids. FC chose tuesday and all agreed. Why did TMO zone in on a tuesday when they know FC raids sky that day ?

We all know the answer. Shame shame.

[maverixdamighty]

I think the bottom line is that most the higher guilds here chose a rotation for sky raids. FC chose tuesday and all agreed. Why did TMO zone in on a tuesday when they know FC raids sky that day ?

We all know the answer. Shame shame.

rotation is for the normal island mobs not the efreeti cycle though. regardless it would have been polite to leave the rest of the mobs untouched outside of the cycle, that is the issue here.

[Thulack]

Let's make an arrangement so it just needs to be changed again once the server is reset =P I know some of you are going to hate me for saying this, but maybe you just shouldn't be in sky when the efreetis are coming

Dick statement of the year right there. Maybe YOU GUYS shouldnt go up to sky on other people's days.

[Atmas]

I guess because you thought it was hilarious in some form. Good job you griefed Full Circle today for giggles.

If you want to get something worked out do it. If you want to try to paint demonic personas of people tag Harrison out.

[Godefroi]

TMO causing drama everywhere

[kotton05]

Well if they would just stop killing island 2 haha. It serves no purpose outside of a Sirran spawn in the efreeti cycle (1.5, 4, 8)

that's easily done, sounds like they disregarded it.

you honestly think anyone on this server would play cooperatively Ramblin? You should know better then that :P

sigh asteroid, yes people do play cooperatively.....

in our defense its hard to leave island 2 up considering its in a central location of the zone. Also at that particular raid i was unaware of your set schedule as the raid leader, i consider that my fault and mine alone(not TMO as a whole) My suggestion is key corpse's and keeping on top of them. Also PST to anyone in TMO a bit of communication goes a long way. again its my fault for not knowing about the set sky raids in the Raid discussion thread.

now I agree its hard to have cross - guild communication but a few tells go a long way. Seems this time tells didn't work?

TMO did not kill the first horse in SKY. We ported up cleared 1 and 2,corpsed to 4 and killed the first horse before anyone else was in zone.

Therefor you had sky.... now...

We killed the trigger. End of story. Sorry I overreacted.

youre under reacting.

Also just to bring this back to a calm response. Let me paint a picture of what happened. TMO members zoned into SKY. TMO obviously did a /w all.. guilds generally do on arrival. TMO sees us there... And by your own admission....Pulls a soul carrier ? They don't send the other guild a tell.... They don't ask "Hey are you guys on 4 clearing ?". I mean you used an eye to pull 4 from 1 you would have seen us there. Yet now TMO is saying "It was just miscommunication guys".

Who is responsible for communication at that point ? Not us we were already at 4 clearing. Half of TMOs guild however knows Tuesday is the day we do SKY. I mean we worked to get keys from 2 back last week with some of you. Yet TMOs response to this (Knowing Tuesday was the day we do sky) was to immediately pull 4 when entering Sky ? I mean everyone has posted in the Sky day raid thread. We all know who has what day. Well for the most part we know. You guys posting here knew. Yet somehow the miscommunication is our fault right ? We are just crying to be crying. It was just a simple misunderstanding that could have been solved with communication had FC simply sent TMO a tell..... Yet that was TMOs responsibility to send a tell since they zoned into a zone with an ongoing raid. Not the other way around. So please brush up on your communication skills TMO =).

Now after this a few folks respond in defense....

So it all seems like it got worked out up there, and in tells with officers / leaders etc, and now you come here and complain? This isn't R&F!

well they tried in tells, took it to server chat very calmly without name calling and the asshatery that is in RnF...

TMO enjoys griefing, let's see some of the pub chat directed at their current primary opponent FE

[Tue May 21 16:53:11 2013] Eccezan shouts, 'FACT: Every guild that Lilyanna has ever been in has died.'
[Tue May 21 16:53:23 2013] Sworen shouts, 'FACT: thats funny.'
[Tue May 21 16:53:48 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'You could say that for every officer in FE acutally...'
[Tue May 21 16:53:57 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'Former BDA/VD/IB burn outs'
[Tue May 21 16:54:21 2013] Zenorek shouts, 'VD ever counted as guild?'
[Tue May 21 16:54:35 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'When you have to join/make FOUR guilds to fight TMO with'
[Tue May 21 16:54:46 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'you know you should quit and go play on sleeper'

and then some conversation with Full Circle
[Tue May 21 17:03:13 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'thanks for takin our gorgalusk guys :('
[Tue May 21 17:03:24 2013] Xarzzardorn says out of character, 'hes on isle 2 if u want him'
[Tue May 21 17:03:34 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'alive still?'
[Tue May 21 17:03:40 2013] Quickfingers says out of character, 'Define..Alive'
[Tue May 21 17:05:19 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'talking about loot. had an agreement with aalpha to not kill the non-freeti cycle mobs b/c it fucks up the rotation'
[Tue May 21 17:05:37 2013] Sworen says out of character, 'think thats true until you attempt ooa and wipe :P'
[Tue May 21 17:05:38 2013] Quickfingers says out of character, 'True but you guys attempted out OOA'

[Note from Chest: Full Circle had like 12 people in Sky, obviously not a force capable of beating Overseer. I think Dreamreaper aggroed him accidentally or something, i'm unsure of the circumstances of him getting DTed]

you bring RnF in game so... telling FC this isn't rnf doesn't hold weight...

now, this is something EASILY avoided.... FE doesn't even hit sky when we want... due to all the "scheaduled" times. But if we port up see others there we just talk to who ever is up there and clear all air, blatantly disrespecting a mid tier guilds sky raid when you've farmed it 10000000 times isn't the way to go.

What can be done to avoid this in the future... is what should be discussed, think we all know how "its" been handled in the past...

[quido]

Follow your own advice, psycho boy.

[Nirgon]

Harrison this is server chat.

Take the meat slicer vs janitor stuff elsewhere.

Also, said janitor does not frequent these boards very often.

[ownrage]

Incoming forceful circle d'aerth

[Hasbinbad]

ITT: people are surprised at things that TMO does which have been talked about for 2? years.

[Volibear]

TMO did not kill the first horse in SKY. We ported up cleared 1 and 2,corpsed to 4 and killed the first horse before anyone else was in zone. Good attempt at spin.

AHAHAHA. So let me get this right. FC goes up and kills the WRONG trigger mob(you kill the griffins to spawn KoS) and throws a shitfit when TMO kills the RIGHT trigger and kills KoS?

[Hasbinbad]

AHAHAHA. So let me get this right. FC goes up and kills the WRONG trigger mob(you kill the griffins to spawn KoS) and throws a shitfit when TMO kills the RIGHT trigger and kills KoS?
Yeah, but it was still a dick move.

[White Ranger]

AHAHAHA. So let me get this right. FC goes up and kills the WRONG trigger mob(you kill the griffins to spawn KoS) and throws a shitfit when TMO kills the RIGHT trigger and kills KoS?

Ya but tmo = great satan

[Vianna]

AHAHAHA. So let me get this right. FC goes up and kills the WRONG trigger mob(you kill the griffins to spawn KoS) and throws a shitfit when TMO kills the RIGHT trigger and kills KoS?

Nope we killed one of each =). Good luck with the spin. People aren't as stupid as you guys hope they are.

[Autotune]

Nope we killed one of each =). Good luck with the spin. People aren't as stupid as you guys hope they are.

they used your words. Perhaps don't post like an idiot.

[mrmop520]

Blah and a post made to promote cooperation ends up in RNF. My last post enjoy yourself trolls.

[Vianna]

they used your words. Perhaps don't post like an idiot.

If they used my words it was from a single post and not the breadth of the entire thread. As for posting like an idiot. I believe that is 75% of what you post here. So refrain from giving advice that you yourself can't follow. Thanks. =)

[Vianna]

Blah and a post made to promote cooperation ends up in RNF. My last post enjoy yourself trolls.

Same. Bowing out of here now. Good Luck with it.

[Crazyeye]

TLDR of the past 8 pages : this box is way to small for the amount of level 60's playing after 2 and a half years overdue for the next expansion

[Hasbinbad]

We have always been at war with Oceania
We have never been at war with Eastasia.

[Strifer]

TLDR of the past 8 pages : this box is way to small for the amount of level 60's playing after 2 and a half years overdue for the next expansion

http://i.imgur.com/kcCfAy4.gif

[Autotune]

If they used my words it was from a single post and not the breadth of the entire thread. As for posting like an idiot. I believe that is 75% of what you post here. So refrain from giving advice that you yourself can't follow. Thanks. =)

We all get it, your guild tried to take a freeti that wasn't yours and failed and the offended guild fired back.

umad.

[Autotune]

Harrison this is server chat.

Take the meat slicer vs janitor stuff elsewhere.

Also, said janitor does not frequent these boards very often.

Who is the said janitor he is talking about?

[Autotune]

Sort of like posting after getting caught cheating and banned for it?

if so, guess we are both guilty of that.

[Autotune]

Never been banned for cheating from anywhere, ever.

The same can't be said for you, Stealin.

Log in and prove me otherwise.

I've already told you several times, I quit and removed EQ long before I was told the account was banned. I only know mine was banned like I know yours was banned, a GM said so.

[White Ranger]

Harrison's ban (6 month suspension) confirmed by GMs. Stealin's "banning" yet another meta troll to drive Harrison to inevitable insanity over a video game.

[quido]

login Harrison

[Autotune]

A confirmed and banned cheater (Stealin) trying to say I am banned. FUCKING ROFL

Was banned, mine could have been lifted like yours possibly was.

[Strifer]

BREAKING NEWS: FE FOUND TRYING TO CAMP FREETI LORD DJARN. INCOMING VIDEO EVIDENCE...

http://www.tinygif.com/data/media/19/gary_busey_creepin.gif

[quido]

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harribanned.jpg

[White Ranger]

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/9892/eq000110.png

6 month ban? From when?

Never happened.

Grats on getting your "ban" lifted. GMs should really perma ban cheating scum like Harrison.

[quido]

the char Harrison is banned

[Autotune]

I've never even had a suspension.

TMO needs to think of a new lie to protect their confirmed and banned faggots.

TMO doesn't have anyone that is a GM as far as I am aware. Either Harrison is lying about his account or a GM is lying.

I'm sorry, but Harrison, you lie quite often.

[Autotune]

I'm also curious how Nilbog is the only legit staff member, in harrison's eyes, yet TMO accounts supposedly are getting suspended by TMO staff people. You do know it's not Nilbog flagging accounts yeah?

Harrison logic fail #2232231

[Strifer]

The word of a confirmed and banned cheater versus a clean whistle such as mine? Lulz.

Keep trying failures. Keep trying.

Meanwhile I will obliterate your reputation daily for pure enjoyment.

Harrison's official new song.

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[Autotune]

Well hell, if i didn't delete all my screenshots I would show you me logging in...

[White Ranger]

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harribanned.jpg

whistle dirty as fuk

[quido]

What do Relapsee and Harrison have in common?

1. Hates TMO
2. Impregnates fat chicks
3. ???

[Loly Taa]

DOJO SPAWNS ONCE A WEEK

Also, BDA have griefed TMO plenty on Dojo because 2 Sirrans can't be up at once.

Shut the fuck up Chest. I mean seriously. I thought you were smarter than that.

Let me put it this way.

It will only be difficult to progress through sky on the ONE day a week Dojo spawns. If you need the timer, let me know- personally.


At first I thought this thread was a call for us to leave OOA up to make Dojo spawn more, since it isn't that. You need to understand some things.

[Loly Taa]

Don't cry alone


I'm speaking as myself, but you are yet another anonymous account. I mean; honestly.


Who the fuck gives a shit about anyone who doesn't have the balls to say who they are ingame?

You're just another random troll, trying to gain the eloquence and efficiency of Tiggles and let me break it to you:

You never will.

[Loly Taa]

Loly you're talking to a legend show some manners

Am I talking to the great Xzerion?

Master of puppets?

[Loly Taa]

even better Harrison master of Tmo

You know, I could bring up old hate against Harrison. It simply would not be fair; his brother- backwards backwards was a huge TMO fan before ...

I mean, you guys realize; people have died since this server started; people close to all of us.

[Loly Taa]

Before TMO merged with cheating pieces of shit and became the cesspool it is now?

Yeah, my brother would have left too. Because only massive faggots cheat at fake versions of 14 year-old elf simulators. (Like Stealin, caught, banned, and confirmed a massive faggot.)

Such an uninformed troll, I mean, I wish you had some insight- I personally am preturbed by issues on this server.

Thing is man, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Autotune]

Before TMO merged with cheating pieces of shit and became the cesspool it is now?

Yeah, my brother would have left too. Because only massive faggots cheat at fake versions of 14 year-old elf simulators. (Like Stealin, caught, banned, and confirmed a massive faggot.)

your brother liked me more than he liked you.

[Autotune]

You know, I could bring up old hate against Harrison. It simply would not be fair; his brother- backwards backwards was a huge TMO fan before ...

I mean, you guys realize; people have died since this server started; people close to all of us.

Actually, he wasn't a huge TMO fan, he was a huge Stealin fan.

Also, Harrison's brother used to train people all the time with his bard via deaths/raider caps. Dude was legit, unlike the massive butthurt non-factor his brother finawin was.

Funny how his brother even admitted that harrison was a massive faggot, but being his brother he wanted to be there and help him get into TMO because that's what his brother wanted.

[Loly Taa]

Actually, he wasn't a huge TMO fan, he was a huge Stealin fan.

Also, Harrison's brother used to train people all the time with his bard via deaths/raider caps. Dude was legit, unlike the massive butthurt non-factor his brother finawin was.

Funny how his brother even admitted that harrison was a massive faggot, but being his brother he wanted to be there and help him get into TMO because that's what his brother wanted.

but he killed himself, isn't that enough retribution for what he did wrong?

[Nirgon]

Lol this kid raged so hard to forums got shut down

[Razdeline]

too far, too far.

[Razdeline]

lolys post made me sad

[Strifer]

but he killed himself, isn't that enough retribution for what he did wrong?
http://i.imgur.com/SQNkdYJ.gif
whoa...dark turn in this thread...

[Godefroi]

http://i.imgur.com/SQNkdYJ.gif
whoa...dark turn in this thread...

Loly making fun of the death of someone and relate it to EQ.

Reality check :(

[Strifer]

Loly making fun of the death of someone and relate it to EQ.

Reality check :(

Just as bad as those EQMac folks who were truly wishing death on a few people who decided to break an unspoken rule.

http://i.imgur.com/fq7p2iJ.gif

[Godefroi]

Just as bad as those EQMac folks who were truly wishing death on a few people who decided to break an unspoken rule.

http://i.imgur.com/fq7p2iJ.gif

Lol yeah those screenshots from their forum was gold.

I think someone called Relapse a murderer ?

People :rolleyes:

[rebeccablack]

Harrison, when you bring your circus of stupidity into a thread like this where TMO is being called out for legitimately breaking the rules, people just assume it's your usual baseless bullshit and disregard it. You are actively harming your anti-TMO cause.

[quido]

He was doing so well before, though.

[Nirgon]

To be honest TMO and Harrison both keep giving each other ammunition

[Tiggles]

To be honest TMO and Harrison both keep giving each other ammunition

There are people in my guild that genuinely enjoy tormenting/baiting Harrison on the forums I think it's silly.

I've said it for years he's sick no matter how much someone hates me or I hate someone else we are still people in the end and Harrison is not well mentally and he fighting with him is the SAME.EXACT.THING as yelling taunts at the guy talking to himself on the street corner.

He keeps coming back because he cannot tell the difference between bad and good attention so every time you link his picture or call him retarded that makes him want to post more.


His lapses in posting also imply stints where he probably was taking medication and didn't need to post on forums he was probably guilted/forced to take something after his child was born but it looks like he is back to it now.

If there was anyone on this server Harrison I wish I could help it would be you, I know you will take this as another attack and post some Amelinda/TMO stuff and thats ok I never bothered me but I just hope you will eventually get the help you need.


As for everyone else please just put him on Ignore if he stops getting the feedback he wants then maybe he will get the help he needs.

[Nirgon]

I think he was gone until The Coach doxxed his adventures in McDonaldland

[quido]

Harrison is the one forum-related thing about which Tiggles has a conscience.

[Hasbinbad]

wait is harrison on the right or the left?

[Kagatob]

I don't like commas.

[kotton05]

He was doing so well before, though.

http://www.angermanagementresource.com/image-files/batteredwifesyndromecycle.jpg

[Reapin]

in our defense its hard to leave island 2 up considering its in a central location of the zone. Also at that particular raid i was unaware of your set schedule as the raid leader, i consider that my fault and mine alone(not TMO as a whole) My suggestion is key corpse's and keeping on top of them. Also PST to anyone in TMO a bit of communication goes a long way. again its my fault for not knowing about the set sky raids in the Raid discussion thread.




So you have no skills? Got it.

[Autotune]

but he killed himself, isn't that enough retribution for what he did wrong?

As much as I dislike Harrison, I don't condone this.

[Jarnauga]

So who killed that KoS trigger ?

[Razdeline]

As much as I dislike Harrison, I don't condone this.

[Hasbinbad]

but he killed himself, isn't that enough retribution for what he did wrong?
As much as I dislike Loly, I condone this message.

[Hasbinbad]

seriously .. u guys say way more fucked up shit than that. quit pretending to have an overblown sense of ancestor worship lol.

You bought your morals at the fucking five and dime you racist misogynist homophobic assholes, nobody is buy the idea that your ethics are worth a shit.

[Hasbinbad]

OMG I FORGOT TO CONJUGATE A VERB HOLY SHIT

buying

[Strifer]

I remember buying my first beer

[Hasbinbad]

You didn't get the joke.

I was making it seem like you said nobody is bi.
yes. i know. it was dum.