goodbye 1st. ammendment

[OMGWTF420]

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130502/18364622931/ma-teen-arrested-held-without-bail-posting-supposed-terrorist-threat-facebook.shtml

now granted, i think rap sucks, and the rap this guy wrote was especially sucky, but its still his right to do it. dude is getting treated like he's the first rapper to ever say he was going to shoot people.

[smokemon]

/sigh ya America started to really die around 1913 with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act and has going on a steep decline ever since then. The people who wrote the constitution / bill of rights would shit themselves if they saw the kind of soft tyranny we put up with today, it's fucking disgusting.

[Alawen]

One overzealous chief of police in a Boston exurb does not set national policy. Feel free to make bomb threats if you feel lucky.

[Rhambuk]

Feel free to make bomb threats if you feel lucky.

post here we all wanna know how this works out for ya

[Black Jesus]

natural selection

[OMGWTF420]

One overzealous chief of police in a Boston exurb does not set national policy. Feel free to make bomb threats if you feel lucky.

actually cases like this can set pretty ugly precedents, especially in a time when americans are so susceptible to fear mongering. all it takes is to label someone with that dirty T word and people throw their good sense's out the window and start grabbing pitch forks

[smokemon]

darwin is a joke

[Rhambuk]

darwin is a joke

he seems a lot more knowledgeable than that guy that wrote what was it...oh yeah the bible. That guy was an idiot.

[smokemon]

hrmmmm thought the bible was authored by many people, didn't know it was just one guy, news to me. Oh yeah this just in, the bible historically is the most accurate text of ancient literature to date. P.S. Darwin disproved his own theory when he claimed that if single celled organisms turned out to be , go read his work. LONG before the reader has arrived at this part of my work, a crowd of difficulties will have occurred to him. Some of them are so serious that to this day I can hardly reflect on them without being in some degree staggered; but, to the best of my judgment, the greater number are only apparent, and those that are real are not, I think, fatal to theory.

These difficulties and objections may be classed under the following heads:—First, why, if species have descended from other species by fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why is not all nature in confusion, instead of the species being, as we see them, well defined?
Secondly, is it possible that an animal having, for instance, the structure and habits of a bat, could have been formed by the modification of some other animal with widely different habits and structure? Can we believe that natural selection could produce, on the one hand, an organ of trifling importance, such as the tail of a giraffe, which serves as a fly-flapper, and, on the other hand, an organ so wonderful as the eye?
Thirdly, can instincts be acquired and modified through natural selection? What shall we say to the instinct which leads the bee to make cells, and which has practically anticipated the discoveries of profound mathematicians?
Fourthly, how can we account for species, when crossed, being sterile and producing sterile offspring, whereas, when varieties are crossed, their fertility is unimpaired?
Charles Darwin, Origin of Species, Ch. 6, p133

[Rhambuk]

Taking things a wee too serious )

[smokemon]

I supposed the earth is flat and we all came from shit throwing monkeys though right?

[smokemon]

hahahahah

[Rhambuk]

In the simple sense of belief yeah I find evolution far more believable than the bible.

But thats just personal belief and its been argued to death like 12 times hah

[smokemon]

Well if you belief that then, how do you explain giraffe's being around? The giraffe’s heart generates enormous pressure in order to pump blood all the way up its long neck to its brain. Were it not for its complex blood pressure regulating system, when a giraffe bent over, it would suffer serious brain damage. If it managed to bend over without dying, it wouldn't be able raise its head again. Its brain would suffer from a sudden lack of oxygen, and it would pass out. How did the giraffe acquire that mechanism, because according to evolution it would have had to mutate and evolve this characteristic right? Well how would that be possible if they all would have died before they had that mechanism?

[Rhambuk]

Well if you belief that then, how do you explain giraffe's being around? The giraffe’s heart generates enormous pressure in order to pump blood all the way up its long neck to its brain. Were it not for its complex blood pressure regulating system, when a giraffe bent over, it would suffer serious brain damage. If it managed to bend over without dying, it wouldn't be able raise its head again. Its brain would suffer from a sudden lack of oxygen, and it would pass out. How did the giraffe acquire that mechanism, because according to evolution it would have had to mutate and evolve this characteristic right? Well how would that be possible if they all would have died before they had that mechanism?

they didnt start that long? over time the neck grew, the heart became stronger to compensate etc etc....

[smokemon]

So where are the fossils of these in-between species ?

[Splorf22]

So where are the fossils of these in-between species ?

Because any heuristic based optimization function is very fast at hill climbing?

[Rhambuk]

So where are the fossils of these in-between species ?

in the ground?

.....

[smokemon]

no. lol, they don't have any linked to them that's the thing.

[Rhambuk]

no. lol, they don't have any linked to them that's the thing.

So wheres the link between god and giraffes? i want to see some pixie dust residue at least

[smokemon]

Because any heuristic based optimization function is very fast at hill climbing?

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a302967.pdf

read.

[smokemon]

Rhambuk you're making an assumption of God being what is portrayed in media and other outlets of our society. Just because one believes in the historical accuracy of ancient texts and its teaching doesn't mean that I believe God as being some old man with a fuckin' beard in the sky pointing his finger. I believe that our minds can't even begin to fathom God. Just look at the TRILLIONS of universes out there and we are only one. LoLZ

[Rhambuk]

so god did construct giraffes and their complexity, or he didn't?

or some copout about how he was involved but we'll never understand how or why because its not in gods plan.

I tried answering your questions....

[smokemon]

Of course God did, but your conceptualizing too narrow minded. Do I believe that gases billions of years ago mixed together with geo-activity on our planet to some how randomly create the extraordinarily complex life forms we see all around us. No. That's like saying a hurricane could go through a junkyard and put together a 747 in precise order exactly how it's supposed to be functioning and all. It's just not gonna happen. I find it much more reasonable to say DNA in general is intelligently designed.

[Rellapse10]

I find it much more reasonable to say DNA in general is intelligently designed.

agreed

[Hasbinbad]

Tolerance of religion is tantamount to condoning institutional rape and murder.

[smokemon]

Lies. You're assuming my beliefs are confined to a set religion.

[Hasbinbad]

Noting lack of a specific denial of religiosity and simultaneous spouting of christian doctrine is not an assumption.

[smokemon]

Spouting of Christian Doctrine where?

[Hasbinbad]

I'm not buying your feigned ignorance.

[Rhambuk]

Oh yeah this just in, the bible historically is the most accurate text of ancient literature to date.

So you disagree with the most historically accurate text?
the earth isnt 6000 years old? god isnt a burning bush? all of the other nonsense

[Rhambuk]

if you want to pick n choose thats fine, just say so. Coming in all God exists its proven fact! then turning around and saying well i dont believe in ALL of it just this and that.

[smokemon]

Did I say I believed everything in the bible as truth? No. Historically dates, cities, persons all historically accurate and verifiable text to date.

[Rhambuk]

I'm going to go argue semantics with a rock. Have fun guys.

[smokemon]

There are plenty of ancient texts not held within the 66 canonical books of the bible that I believe in.

[Hasbinbad]

Did you know the word gullible doesn't appear even once in the bible?

[Hasbinbad]

Are you for real?
Yes I am. Even joking acceptance of christianity should be a punishable offense.

[Black Jesus]

I agree with nocturne 100%, yall need to read the bible

[smokemon]

Hasbinbad just curious what you believe. Do you believe that our millions of simultaneous chemical reactions all firing in synchronicity in our bodies that keep us alive everyday are just a jargon of randomly coincidentally events that lead to us right here arguing across pixels?

[smokemon]

As for arguing with people like you and Rhambuk. If you are seriously too dumb to realize that something like DNA could never be the product of random chance then there is literally no point in even debating with you. Nobody with such an inability to grasp reason can possibly be reasoned with. The change will have to come from within yourself first.


^^^ In modern psychology, cognitive dissonance is the discomfort experienced when simultaneously holding two or more conflicting cognition's: ideas, beliefs, values or emotional reactions. In a state of dissonance, people may sometimes feel "disequilibrium": frustration, hunger, dread, guilt, anger, embarrassment, anxiety, etc.

[Hasbinbad]

Hasbinbad just curious what you believe. Do you believe that our millions of simultaneous chemical reactions all firing in synchronicity in our bodies that keep us alive everyday are just a jargon of randomly coincidentally events that lead to us right here arguing across pixels?
There are really two questions here that you try to cleverly couch as one.

I don't think so. Homie don't play that.

http://i.imgur.com/vs0SgTo.gif

Do I "believe" in evolution as the mechanism for the development of life on earth? Yes. And that's the view I will continue to hold until better evidence is presented.

The second questions is whether or not I think "it" all happened by random chance (the god question). My answer to that is that I don't "believe" anything about that. I've embraced my ignorance on the topic. You should embrace yours.

[Hasbinbad]

Ya Christianity sure is evil man. You're totally right. It's ok though I know it's just because of your blatant ignorance and your evil nature that you are blinded from the truth. Hopefully you can pull your head out of your ass before you are thrown into the lake of fire.

As for arguing with people like you and Rhambuk. If you are seriously too dumb to realize that something like DNA could never be the product of random chance then there is literally no point in even debating with you. Nobody with such an inability to grasp reason can possibly be reasoned with. The change will have to come from within yourself first.
This quote is especially apt when applied to you.

"I like your christ. I do not like your christians. Your christians are so unlike your christ."
-Bapu

[smokemon]

Do I "believe" in evolution as the mechanism for the development of life on earth? Yes. And that's the view I will continue to hold until better evidence is presented.

Wait, what evidence are you referring to in the first place? The fact that since the age of 5 or 6 we've been indoctrinated to believe in our public education system that EVOLUTION is and always will be the only way? Or is it the scientific THEORIES purported but never substantiated by any verifiable evidence of linking us to monkeys or even linking us to any other early hominids?

The second questions is whether or not I think "it" all happened by random chance (the god question). My answer to that is that I don't "believe" anything about that. I've embraced my ignorance on the topic. You should embrace yours.

Why embrace ignorance, when truth is right before your eyes.

Yeshua said it himself. I am the way, the truth and the light.

[Hasbinbad]

THEORIES purported but never substantiated by any verifiable evidence
I'm just going to leave this here. You obviously have absolutely no idea what the words you're using mean.

[smokemon]

............LOL k. I win you lose.

[Kagatob]

smoke weed y'all

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/320839_597108403633475_88383392_n.jpg

[smokemon]

How bout I fucker her mom and then legalize weed?

[Rellapse10]

How bout I fucker her mom and then legalize weed?

[Splorf22]

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a302967.pdf

read.

I only read the abstract, and I already know that the paper does not say what you think it says. What your paper claims is that genetic algorithms are not better than other optimization algorithms like, say, simulated annealing. Now I am already suspicious of this - if you think about, this kind of thing is very difficult to prove empirically - but I can't be bothered to read the paper deeply enough to look at their methodology.

But it doesn't matter because you totally missed the point. ANY optimization algorithm is GREAT at finding local maxima and minima. The problem is whether you are at a global max/min. Species make perfect sense if you think of each one as a local maximum.

[Zadrian]

Before anyone continues any further. Please learn the difference between theory and scientific theory.

Thanks, continue on.

[smokemon]

Scientific Theory doesn't mean it's well substantiated, it just means those who control the flow of information agree that this is what the masses will view as truth BECAUSE THEY SAID SO RAWRRRRRRRRRRR

[OMGWTF420]

this shit is way off course, lol please continue

[OMGWTF420]

there is no god, and darwin got alot of shit wrong, now can we please talk about this dumb white rapper getting locked up?

[Kagatob]

hrmmmm thought the bible was authored by many people, didn't know it was just one guy, news to me.
This is the only statement where you are somewhat correct, in fact it goes beyond that, there are several conflicting accounts within the bible where the same story is told with a slightly different resolution each time. If anything it's comparable to two rival cities' newspaper clippings mashed together.
Oh yeah this just in, the bible historically is the most accurate text of ancient literature to date.
Elaborate? If you can in any way, you'd be the first to do so. Please. I look forward to your response.
P.S. Darwin disproved his own theory when he claimed that if single celled organisms turned out to be , go read his work. LONG before the reader has arrived at this part of my work, a crowd of difficulties will have occurred to him. Some of them are so serious that to this day I can hardly reflect on them without being in some degree staggered; but, to the best of my judgment, the greater number are only apparent, and those that are real are not, I think, fatal to theory.
This statement does not make sense and seems to be pointing towards the origin of life which is not what the Darwinian theory of evolution attempts to show.

If you knew a single thing about Darwinian evolution and weren't blinded by the bigoted writings of slave owning, child raping, cow slaughtering primitives... you might understand.
These difficulties and objections may be classed under the following heads:—First, why, if species have descended from other species by fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms?
This only shows your lack of understanding of survival of the fittest and the way that different species compete against one another.
Short explanation is two groups in the same part of the food chain competing for shelter/food, one has a slight advantage over the other, over a million years only one will be remaining either because the other migrated or because one became extinct.
Why is not all nature in confusion, instead of the species being, as we see them, well defined?
Define "Well defined". I'm serious here, have you ever seen a seahorse?
Secondly, is it possible that an animal having, for instance, the structure and habits of a bat, could have been formed by the modification of some other animal with widely different habits and structure? Can we believe that natural selection could produce, on the one hand, an organ of trifling importance, such as the tail of a giraffe, which serves as a fly-flapper, and, on the other hand, an organ so wonderful as the eye?
My appendix would like to have a word with you. Also if we're God's ultimate creation and eyes are so amazing like you tote on about, why is it that a Squid, which doesn't even have a spine, has 10,000 times the visual acuity that I do?
Thirdly, can instincts be acquired and modified through natural selection? What shall we say to the instinct which leads the bee to make cells, and which has practically anticipated the discoveries of profound mathematicians?
You already debunked your point, I need not.
Fourthly, how can we account for species, when crossed, being sterile and producing sterile offspring, whereas, when varieties are crossed, their fertility is unimpaired?
Charles Darwin, Origin of Species, Ch. 6, p133
How is this evidence of God? Lack of evidence is never evidence for anything. This again shows your lack of understanding of the Darwinian theory of evolution. What's your next argument going to be? That God exists because the path of evolution can't be predicted? If so the unpredictability of the lottery numbers is evidence too. :)

[smokemon]

Too much troll to untroll

[Hasbinbad]

Well how bout the laws of thermodynamics which state that energy degrades over time until inevitable innertness, not forms into ultra complex systems.
You use big concepts that you don't really grasp.

From one point of view, our complex system is an expression of entropy.

[Arclyte]

oh noes, some ****** is catching shit for vomiting his "music" days after a major bombing

I'm sure when the first amendment was penned it had shithead rappers in mind

[Kagatob]

I'm sure when the first amendment was penned it had shithead rappers in mind

Shh.

Quiet before the 2nd amendment thumpers hear you and see the link between that and the right to own anti-air and anti-tank missile delivery systems.

[OMGWTF420]

oh noes, some ****** is catching shit for vomiting his "music" days after a major bombing

I'm sure when the first amendment was penned it had shithead rappers in mind

it had everyone in mind, including bigoted rascist's like you =D

[Kagatob]

Rap is terrible garbage whether you're racist or not.

[Hasbinbad]

Shh.

Quiet before the 2nd amendment thumpers hear you and see the link between that and the right to own anti-air and anti-tank missile delivery systems.
2nd amendment garunteez my rites 2 >90% pure U-235 bro

[Kagatob]

2nd amendment garunteez my rites 2 >90% pure U-235 bro

Do want.

[OMGWTF420]

Rap is terrible garbage whether you're racist or not.

wont deny that, but fucking a look at this kid

http://static.globalgrind.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_images_540/images/2013_may/k-bigpic_0.jpg

thats the face of a terrorist if ive ever seen one.... and they are holding him on a million dollar bail. the police dept. that arrested him were so proud of their handy work they even made a celebratory twitter post. never mind the fact that all they could turn up at his house was an xbox and a laptop... you know every terrorist's weapon of choice. smh

[Hasbinbad]

The fact is the appendix is a very useful and important organ. It is one of the bodies largest producers of white blood cells and is specifically positioned near your colon for what should be pretty obvious reasons(altho then again you believe in evolution so obvious might not even be in your vocabulary). The appendix has been called the tonsils(also another important organ) of the bowels.
ITT: christians defend the awesomeness of the appendix in desperate attempt at salvaging a shred of relevance.
Scientists have discovered that these organs actually act as lightning rods in that they attract the attention of bacteria away from the more crucial organs and are better suited to fight said infections. This is why your tonsils get swollen when you get sick. So ya your appendix would like a word with you and I believe the words will be "damn bro you just dunked on".
Yea, except the part where this argument completely falls apart when Joe the caveman dies of untreated appendicitis. Because without modern medicine, appendicitis KILLS YOU.

Fucking derps. That's what you get for researching to a conclusion.

[OMGWTF420]

tbh i dont really give a shit about evolution or how/why we got here, but ill tell you one thing, its sure sounds a hell of a lot more believable than the biblical alternative. something in my gut tells me the world is more than 5000 years old and that im not here because some talking snake tricked some dumb bitch into eating a magic sin apple

[Hasbinbad]

the only real argument for a deity is the cause of "what is," and that this deity created the laws of physics, etc.

every single thing any religious person has ever said besides this is wrong.

[OMGWTF420]

but what created the deity?

[Hasbinbad]

thats the thing is that this argument is so ephemeral that the only way to make it is as an agnostic.

[Hasbinbad]

You just have to give up any hope of "knowledge" at a certain point, hence agnostic.

[Rellapse10]

but what created the deity?

aliens

[Hasbinbad]

Once you do that, you can believe anything you like, and are freed of the bondage of religion. I'm on the "I don't care enough to think about it" end of the agnostic spectrum when it comes to questions of god, but there are agnostics with a wide variety of beliefs / conjectures / fables / creation myths. I can really respect people who come at it from that point of view.

[Hasbinbad]

Although I live as an atheist, I find atheist dogma just as bankrupt as religious.

[Rhambuk]

You guys have opened my eyes. Now to when i face a real life situation that I don't understand I'll slap the god label on it and move on. Unless someone tries to explain it to me in real world terms in which case im just going to scream god at them.

Theres no point continuing reading or posting in this thread, you can't reason with bible thumpers. They don't listen

[Rellapse10]

www.godhatesfags.com

[Kagatob]

ITT: christians defend the awesomeness of the appendix in desperate attempt at salvaging a shred of relevance.

Yea, except the part where this argument completely falls apart when Joe the caveman dies of untreated appendicitis. Because without modern medicine, appendicitis KILLS YOU.

Fucking derps. That's what you get for researching to a conclusion.
The sad part is that he doesn't understand the logical fallacy he's stepped in and has been wading around in for a while.
Oh and just to quickly address why other animals can do certain things better than us. Well uhh because they kinda have to? God gave us our brain as our main advantage.
God kinda failed on that plan then... how many species have gone extinct because of humans in the past few millennia? Thought so.
In before free will that God gave everyone but punishes them when they don't do exactly what he wants them to.
A brain which can create a telescope which can have 1,000,000,000 the visual acuity of a squid. Your squid theory looks pretty retarded, now doesn't it?
Humans can build things, this answers everything? And yet you disregard the explanation that actually makes sense?

[Rhambuk]

not fred phelps...that guy...even I wouldnt put him in the same class as other christians he wants to hurt people and uses his "religious freedoms" to do it.

hes just an asshole that needs to be shot

[Zadrian]

For the guy who quoted me and told me I don't know the difference between original theory and scientific theory.

Actually, I do know the difference very well.

As far as the evolution/entropy(2nd law etc) argument goes - that's a stupid debate for one reason - Evolution is still a scientific theory. If it were actual law and we thought we knew everything there is to know about evolution, then you could try to parrot that argument ( which im willing to bet you hardly understand and are just parroting because it gives you that "Hah! Gotcha!" feeling against evolution.")

Also, if you want signs of visible evolution, please reas about the cit+ experiment.

On a personal note, and maybe it is just me, but I find it ironic that a person who seems to be preaching a religion that teaches you to be humble, your posts are quite arrogant. I find the hypocrisy quite funny. Please continue.

Now about the rapper kid, where are all those people that were so adamantly defending the second amendment? Oh right, they don't give a shit because it doesnt appeal to them.

[Hasbinbad]

The sad part is that he doesn't understand the logical fallacy he's stepped in and has been wading around in for a while.
Distilling the idiocy displayed herein as a logical fallacy delivers lulz to those of us who can comprehend this sentence properly, but is actually quite a serious miscalculation of the level of derp we're dealing with.

Not being able to understand a logical fallacy is a level of ignorance issue, which every single person will always struggle with. This is easy to empathize with, and in fact it is righteous to stand up for the ignorant state as inevitable, and you shouldn't deride this or that person for their level of ignorance, for the intelligence of humanity is aggregate, thus more than any one person could hope to achieve. Not understanding a logical fallacy can be explained away by saying that person hasn't had any form of higher education, a more common state than many seem to think. This, in and of itself, is nothing to be looked down on. Plenty of smart people didn't go to college.

However, when someone actually has the knowledge of what they are talking about it, or at least the appearance of the obvious access to information and a drive to discuss it, and then completely ignores that information in favor of popular opinion, you're dealing with stupid.

[OMGWTF420]

Now about the rapper kid, where are all those people that were so adamantly defending the second amendment? Oh right, they don't give a shit because it doesnt appeal to them.

[Hasbinbad]

Experiment:
Question: Do people who don't believe in evolution know what evolution is?

Background research: p99 forums, god threads, talking to charlatans, christians, and witch doctors.

Hypothesis: A persons belief in evolution is positively correlative to that persons understanding of evolution.

Tests:
a.) survey people who state they do not believe in evolution on their knowledge of evolution.
b.) summarize evolution to a similar degree of sophistication as the highest level found in a.

Analysis: compare the results from A and B. conclude and revise hypothesis if necessary.

[Hailto]

he seems a lot more knowledgeable than that guy that wrote what was it...oh yeah the bible. That guy was an idiot.

What a depressing sig you got going on.

[Hasbinbad]

What a depressing sig you got going on.
I shed a single tear when I read it earlier.

[Rhambuk]

What a depressing sig you got going on.

I've read a lot of calvin and hobbes, if people couldnt tell I was a fan.

But this strip I had actually never seen before this morning, one of the more serious strips.

But yeah definitely a little depressing =/

[Lron]

This is fucking insane. Why dont they start arresting directors/actors who direct/play horror movies about fictitious serial killers and other violent murderers.

[radditsu]

youtube wont let me embed. Have fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5gRIud57jQ

[radditsu]

also

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[radditsu]

One of the members of NWA now stars in family friendly movies. ICE T bangs a white chick with a giant ass and solves crimes on Television.

[gotrocks]

actually cases like this can set pretty ugly precedents, especially in a time when americans are so susceptible to fear mongering.


there is definitely precedent for this in history.

i am worried.

then again, this country has been circling the shit hole for the last decade or so, so im not surprised.

[Kagatob]

A shred of relevance? Lol, you're a complete retard. Evolutionists blatantly state that the appendix being useless is some how proof that we aren't intelligently designed because it is useless. However here in this place called reality, the appendix actually isn't useless like you retards claim and there actually is no such thing a vestigial organ.

There is no modern medicine that cures appendicitis idiot lol. They cut you open and take it out.
English must not be your primary language... Modern medicine is the practice of medicine, not medication itself. Also if you compare the appendix's location and structure to the organs in any grazing mammal you'll find that it's in fact the reminants of an organ that allowed pre-human primates and their ancestors to better digest greens which for tens of millions of years, was their primary source of food.
I'd also wager any amount of money that people back then couldn't even get appendicitis because it's only something that occurs from eating too many refined foods or foods low in fiber which back then didn't really exist.

That is not what causes appendicitis. I'm at work right now in a hospital, after speaking to 3 doctors and cross referencing what I've been told with some searches of my own I can assure you that you still have no clue as to what it is you are talking about.

Why do you retards keep invoking this dumb ass bullshit? Where the fuck does the Bible say the age of the Earth. How can you shit talk something you've never once in your worthless life even considered reading? How fucking ignorant can you possibly fucking be?
Let's look at the first two verses of the first chapter of the first book of the Bible: Genesis 1: 1-2. I'll quote from the King James translation:
In the beginning God created the heaven and earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

After these verses, the Bible describes six days of creation, from light till animals, plants, and humans. Adam and Eve were created the sixth day of creation. There has been much dispute whether these days of creation should be interpreted as 'real' days, or more like periods of time; people in favor of the latter point, often use the text that states that for God, one day is like thousand years. The Bible describes a line of descendants of Adam and Eve, and if we add ages of these people, this can lead to an estimate of the age of the earth of around seven thousand years.

Or do you so lack in critical thinking skills that now you're starting to combine "I don't know or care" and "god did it" into a single futile thought process?
Eve didn't eat an actual apple you god damn retard, why do you think it was called the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Do you not know what the fuck a metaphor is?

It never ceases to amaze me as to how many people there are that insist they can have an opinion about things they have absolutely no fucking clue whatsoever about.
Would you care to explain the methods you use to determine which verses of the bible you choose to interpret metaphorically and which verses to interpret literally?

Once you're done with that can you please explain how you can be confidant that your interpretation is correct outside of 'it's the shit you've been indoctrinated with since youth'?

[Kagatob]

Ignorance
Tinfoil Hattery
More tinfoil hattery
"It's obvious" to defend the bible.

Ignored. :)

[Rhambuk]

Ignored. :)

It's the only thing you can do against bible thumpers.

Your more likely to lift the statue of liberty and haul it from New York to California before you can get any of these fools to admit to any shred of real logic.

Just be thankful your not living in their county or theyd have had us lynched by now.

[gotrocks]

just.... wow.

kag is pretty much dead on about everything he's said on this page. nocturne, i'm not sure where you're getting your information but it sort of seems like you're just pulling it out of your ass and shaping it to fit your own needs.

The world only works that way when you're worth half a billion, and it never works that way on an internet forum.

I'm especially curious as to where you got your information on the 'appendix' your referencing, because its apparently not an organ modern science/medicine is familiar with.

Feel free to provide us with references so we can do our own reading on the subject!

Would also appreciate pointers on which sections of the bible you deem as metaphorical and which sections are literal, because its made pretty damn clear not just in the bible but also in most church teachings that there was a literal god damn fruit that was eaten, not a metaphorical one.

I'm confused. Which may be because im stupid, or it may be because the shape of the shit you're pulling out of your ass looks like a golden statue to you, but like a pile of shit to us 0_o

what do i know, though, this is a fuckin EQ forum.

[Rhambuk]

I'm especially curious as to where you got your information on the 'appendix' your referencing, because its apparently not an organ modern science/medicine is familiar with.

He made it up because the bible doesn't reference the appendix and every other written text is heretic lies!

[QOUTE]Would also appreciate pointers on which sections of the bible you deem as metaphorical and which sections are literal, because its made pretty damn clear not just in the bible but also in most church teachings that there was a literal god damn fruit that was eaten, not a metaphorical one.[/QUOTE]
its literal when it benefits his "argument" when its proven wrong then its metaphorical.

I'm confused. Which may be because im stupid
Not even close there chief! <3

what do i know, though, this is a fuckin EQ forum.

You know a fuckton more than these 2 fools.

[gotrocks]

<3

[gotrocks]

waaait wait. i totally just figured this guy out. for real though, theres only one explanation for this shit, hold on let me dig it up. clark's gonna love this. for real though no one is this ignorant, so wait for it......

[gotrocks]

http://s14.postimg.org/5g92j264d/7pq8kq7u9e.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/5g92j264d/)

in reference to nocturne, btw.

for some reason i thought that pic said "yal *****z is gettin trolled" but w/e close enough :)

[Alawen]

Things that are okay with Yahweh:

1) slavery,
2) rape,
3) murder,
4) ritual human sacrifice.

Nice religion you got there. Nice religious text. Nice.

[Rhambuk]

Things that are okay with Yahweh:

1) slavery,
2) rape,
3) murder,
4) ritual human sacrifice.

Nice religion you got there. Nice religious text. Nice.

/sigh alawen havent you been paying attention. They only pick n choose what they want to believe.

[Alawen]

/sigh alawen havent you been paying attention. They only pick n choose what they want to believe.

Oh, it's all clear to me now. Slavery is just a metaphor for being reliable at work and rape is a metaphor for keeping things exciting with your wife in the sack, right?

[Rhambuk]

Oh, it's all clear to me now. Slavery is just a metaphor for being reliable at work and rape is a metaphor for keeping things exciting with your wife in the sack, right?

Now your gettin it! they don't mean Literal slavery i mean what good hearted christian would own a slave?

[OMGWTF420]

Why do you retards keep invoking this dumb ass bullshit? Where the fuck does the Bible say the age of the Earth. How can you shit talk something you've never once in your worthless life even considered reading? How fucking ignorant can you possibly fucking be? Eve didn't eat an actual apple you god damn retard, why do you think it was called the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Do you not know what the fuck a metaphor is?

It never ceases to amaze me as to how many people there are that insist they can have an opinion about things they have absolutely no fucking clue whatsoever about.

actually i have read the bible, well enough of it to know thats just a tool of control. i dont need 2000 year old dogma dictating how i should or shouln't live my life. virtually everything in the bible is one giant contradiction.

[Daldolma]

if in 20+ years you haven't stumbled across the difference between your and you're, can you please not discuss the meaning or meaninglessness of life

[Alawen]

if in 20+ years you haven't stumbled across the difference between your and you're, can you please not discuss the meaning or meaninglessness of life

For me, this is an interesting linguistic tangent. I'm curious to see if contractions like you're and they're become archaic usage, and the increasingly common misspellings become accepted usage. It obviously hasn't happened yet, but the ubiquity of the common usage is becoming undeniable.

[Rhambuk]

if in 20+ years you haven't stumbled across the difference between your and you're, can you please not discuss the meaning or meaninglessness of life

gramer natsee mist the poynt!

[Hasbinbad]

Experiment:
Question: Do people who don't believe in evolution know what evolution is?

Background research: p99 forums, god threads, talking to charlatans, christians, and witch doctors.

Hypothesis: A persons belief in evolution is positively correlative to that persons understanding of evolution.

Tests:
a.) survey people who state they do not believe in evolution on their knowledge of evolution.
b.) summarize evolution to a similar degree of sophistication as the highest level found in a.

Analysis: compare the results from A and B. conclude and revise hypothesis if necessary.
So Nocturne, why don't you tell us what you know about the "theory" of evolution.

[OMGWTF420]

gramer natsee mist the poynt!

nobody even noticed that i spelled amendment wrong in the title =p

[Rhambuk]

nobody even noticed that i spelled amendment wrong in the title =p

Less of a grammar thing and more of an anti rhambuk thing I think.

Startin to get fans! go make more threads for me to post in!

[OMGWTF420]

Less of a grammar thing and more of an anti rhambuk thing I think.

Startin to get fans! go make more threads for me to post in!

soon you will be able to create your own epic threads. you will know when you are ready

[Rhambuk]

soon you will be able to create your own epic threads. you will know when you are ready

Thought my post on how to ignore harison was pretty good =p

not rnf epic but its a start!

[Hasbinbad]

Dude don't get too proud, people have been doing "ignore harrison" links for years.

[Rhambuk]

Dude don't get too proud, people have been doing "ignore harrison" links for years.

leave it to hbb to haul people back down to reality (

[Hasbinbad]

I like to kick mounds of sand just to see if someone stuck their head in it.

[A1551]

This thread makes me wish there was a "stupid" flag you could put on certain posters so when they post elsewhere i would know to take their eq related advice with a grain of salt.

[smokemon]

They see me trollin' they hatin'

[Rellapse10]

They see me trollin' they hatin'

your posts almost made me go to church yesterday

[kotton05]

post here we all wanna know how this works out for ya

we used to pay a homeless dude in college to do this if an exam was on friday, so we could party instead.

[Rhambuk]

Awesome, how did that work out for you? lots of partying to be had? lots of homeless in jail?