Cold Case Files: VP in seb final look

[kotton05]

TMO went on to wipe to trak, then relentlessly tried to CR (multiple mishaps of trak being trained on FE raid from people CR'ing breaking line of sight and a certain somebody who got shroomed flopping with intentions of griefing FE).

I post this for the forum warriors across norrath. VP leaking into seb.

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Final Thoughts

Now when is enough an enough, acts of 1 person truly trying to ruin trak by training him under our raid. Now before someone says its an accident...

1. It happens when we camp in and have just enough to form up our groups
2. It happens more than once, if unintentional why then after campin out, it resets, we camp back, get to the same numbers.... then trak re-aggro's. rinse n repeat, sounds like ct...

2a. Before you say we trained ourselves with an accidental train THIS VIDEO is right after TMO wipes, was it us? no, not even in the slightest, this is what alarti was claiming and asking for the fraps. here ya go.

3. This doesn't reflect all tmo members. This was the action of 1 indivual. But may warrant a punishment that may effect more than 1 person. But i'm just speculating.

3a. VP is in skyfire fella's

There is no way to prove who this person was on my end but I think a GM could easily identify with /who its about 6 people in zone can eliminate a few and pin point in with an engage log easily.

Now my own personal opinion is this is really reaching for a trak, if this was vs who gives a shit about big maestro... not killing him I don't blink twice, but trak is crucial in terms of keys for VP for both TMO and FE, where actions like this occur, due to a no CSR type attitude set by the GM's... This one TMO couldn't handle the fact that they wiped and is making a mass of people who I'm sure don't like this type of activity see what truly happened. With out this video there isn't no stake in my claim...

Now is this a premiere raid guild strat? Na. Its the actions of a single person (tinfoil: or collaborators) I have never seen a trak like this TMO....

[Mortiiss]

This isn't the first time stuff like this has happened in our long battle against TMO while raiding in FE. It demonstrates some of the bullshit we have to put up with on a weekly basis though. Hopefully that makes sense as to why some members in FE are enraged/sick of TMO on P99.

Thanks for the post, Merkk. Good video.

[Alarti0001]

Final Thoughts

Now when is enough an enough, acts of 1 person truly trying to ruin trak by training him under our raid. Now before someone says its an accident...

1. It happens when we camp in and have just enough to form up our groups
2. It happens more than once, if unintentional why then after campin out, it resets, we camp back, get to the same numbers.... then trak re-aggro's. rinse n repeat, sounds like ct...

2a. Before you say we trained ourselves with an accidental train THIS VIDEO is right after TMO wipes, was it us? no, not even in the slightest, this is what alarti was claiming and asking for the fraps. here ya go.

3. This doesn't reflect all tmo members. This was the action of 1 indivual. But may warrant a punishment that may effect more than 1 person. But i'm just speculating.

3a. VP is in skyfire fella's

There is no way to prove who this person was on my end but I think a GM could easily identify with /who its about 6 people in zone can eliminate a few and pin point in with an engage log easily.

Now my own personal opinion is this is really reaching for a trak, if this was vs who gives a shit about big maestro... not killing him I don't blink twice, but trak is crucial in terms of keys for VP for both TMO and FE, where actions like this occur, due to a no CSR type attitude set by the GM's... This one TMO couldn't handle the fact that they wiped and is making a mass of people who I'm sure don't like this type of activity see what truly happened. With out this video there isn't no stake in my claim...

Now is this a premiere raid guild strat? Na. Its the actions of a single person (tinfoil: or collaborators) I have never seen a trak like this TMO....


This actually doesn't reflect on any TMO members.... all we see is a dragon running around. Good job

I especially enjoyed the second Trakanon to ledge where he goes straight through the wall to the ledge. Make sure your FD'ers /q out next time.

[kotton05]

This actually doesn't reflect on any TMO members.... all we see is a dragon running around. Good job

I especially enjoyed the second Trakanon to ledge where he goes straight through the wall to the ledge. Make sure your FD'ers /q out next time.

we had no one fd

[Mortiiss]

This actually doesn't reflect on any TMO members.... all we see is a dragon running around. Good job

I especially enjoyed the second Trakanon to ledge where he goes straight through the wall to the ledge. Make sure your FD'ers /q out next time.

This is an example of the kind of copout you can expect from TMO. I realize Alarti is just defending his guild, and that's admirable, but come on guys?

Some random player decided to train Trak on FE through the wall multiple times when they log in, and he's not part of the TMO raid that just wiped on Trakanon at all, nope.

Really?

[Alarti0001]

This is an example of the kind of copout you can expect from TMO. I realize Alarti is just defending his guild, and that's admirable, but come on guys?

Some random player decided to train Trak on FE through the wall multiple times when they log in, and he's not part of the TMO raid that just wiped on Trakanon at all, nope.

Really?

ITT: FE Makes large claim... posts video without any TMO members in it and then spins a story.

A cop out is saying you have some form or proof and providing..... nothing... like Merkk just did.

[kotton05]

ITT: FE Makes large claim... posts video without any TMO members in it and then spins a story.

A cop out is saying you have some form or proof and providing..... nothing... like Merkk just did.

There is no way to prove who this person was on my end but I think a GM could easily identify with /who its about 6 people in zone can eliminate a few and pin point in with an engage log easily.

[Mortiiss]

We'll let RNF decide.

[Alarti0001]

We'll let RNF decide.

Fe's arbiter of truth.... RNF LOL.

[Mortiiss]

Fe's arbiter of truth.... RNF LOL.

Clearly that's what I said. People can look at what's provided and form their own views and opinions. Sorry that bothers ya buddy.

[Alarti0001]

Clearly that's what I said. People can look at what's provided and form their own views and opinions. Sorry that bothers ya buddy.

You implied RNF was a place to make such a decision most of the non biased (undecided people) have this forum blocked. Derper

[kotton05]

You implied RNF was a place to make such a decision most of the non biased (undecided people) have this forum blocked. Derper

a court of fellow peers then

[Alarti0001]

merkk fizzles

[Mortiiss]

You implied RNF was a place to make such a decision most of the non biased (undecided people) have this forum blocked. Derper

No I didn't, I merely said that people can read what Merkk posted, your stupid reply, and what I posted then figure it out for themselves. You put those words in my mouth, sir.

[Alarti0001]

We'll let RNF decide.

No I didn't, I merely said that people can read what Merkk posted, your stupid reply, and what I posted then figure it out for themselves. You put those words in my mouth, sir.

You seem to say RNF very clearly up there.

[Mortiiss]

You seem to say RNF very clearly up there.

Yes. You're not understanding me. I'm saying we'll let RNF decide as in the people on RNF can read the post, everything in it, and decide for themselves. I sorry you took it as me saying:

Fe's arbiter of truth.... RNF LOL.

Clearly an assumption on your part. It's okay, people make mistakes. You said your piece, we said ours, now we'll see what others have to say. As far as people who have the forum blocked, who cares? Irrelevant. Sucks that people aren't on your side I guess, deal with it.

[radditsu]

This actually doesn't reflect on any TMO members.... all we see is a dragon running around. Good job

I especially enjoyed the second Trakanon to ledge where he goes straight through the wall to the ledge. Make sure your FD'ers /q out next time.

Why would we do anything besides login and setup groups? Why would we even try to run in or have anybody do anything? FE had a clear shot with zero complications and could take their time to take down that trak easily. Who was at the shrooms? You know, the guys who got shroomed on the TMO engage. We all know his pathing is not correct and can go through the walls (as seen at the video). Clearly Gnomercy was not getting aggro.

Here I made a Diagram of that fraps:

http://i.imgur.com/d3DYBQ0.jpg

[Mortiiss]

Good pic.

[quido]

lol that's adorable

[Daldolma]

i believe alarti is wrong about literally everything he has ever posted, thus fe must be correct

[kotton05]

that pic depicts the events so much better! good style points on it.

[AenarieFenninRo]

Was it TMO? Was it FE? Was it 'rainbow_bright_guildmember_01'? WHO COULD IT BE?!?!

Long and short, this video only proves that Trak came through the wall, and killed FE people. While that is lamentable, there is no value in declaring ANYONE as the bad guys here, because it cannot be proved. Hell, it could have been (i'm not saying it was) someone in FE who came in on the TMO engage and got trak touched... we just don't have any evidence here at all.

For to the poster who said go look at Trak logs:
I respect that you're trying to help identify who did this, and that you're probably a knowledgable player and already know, but figured I would state the obvious just in case anyone wasn't aware how logs worked. When Trak resets, the log clears. There is no retaining of information from one engage to the next. The only time the log is updated is after Trakanon is engaged. If that engage results in Trak's death, the log is retained as "complete". If Trak wins, and resets, then the log is wiped out. (thats what this video shows). If the person FDs, Trak resets, they stand and are still agro, its a "new engage log" with only that person on it.

If there is someone in the shroom maze, or someone under the rock, or someone in Greater Faydark, the answer still remains the same, it is not shown on this video. Because Trak resets, it will not be retained in the log. There is no way to "prove it" in this instance unless someone was where the person who had agro was standing / flopping / whatever / and could synch that with Trakanon going apeshit and ending up on ledge.

I will grant that there is a possibility that it could have been someone in TMO, but it could just as easily have been someone in any other guild or even an unguilded person on the server. (Please be logical and don't latch onto this as an admission or denial of guilt, I am just trying to be as neutral as possible here)

I was at this trak, I was in vent, and I never heard anyone say "I'm FD in shrooms, i'm going to fuck with FE" The closest to this I heard was "Who can drag my corpse from shrooms?"

My guess of what happened here?
Without evidence its hard to say, but my guess is that someone got Trak touched and flopped, waited till trak was reset and stood... heard Trak is agro and failed a flop... had to wait obligatory X seconds, and flopped again which is why Trak got as far as it did on the first "training" (who knows it may have been 2 fails). Waited a couple mins, hoping trak would forget them, then stood again and heard the same thing so flopped again (trak didn't go as far second time).

This is one of the MAJOR reasons that TMO moved to the other side of the water a month ago... to avoid possible trains when we were prepping to engage. You're vulnerable in that spot, plain and simple... not because someone is intent on disrupting your raid, but because any number of things can cause Trak to agro you, especially with change in agro radius.

[kotton05]

I agree it is a totally vulnerable spot, with the new patch i'm sure you have noticed his new agro and no invis / sneak+hide.

Also I agree its a mystery person. I understand there is a possibility of it not being the guild I think, guess I thought each encounter was saved. Very valid point on me thinking that the encounter would of been.

So exactly "who" is a variable that isn't proven from a sever side log, no concrete evidence, very circumstantial with my own opinions attached.

How often does trak shroom people? Anyone know? (I'm not exactly sure, seems like a proc but might be timed.)

With your statements of not hearing a mention of someone being shroomed it has me thinking of a few points.

I know your engage did have a tank get shroomed and summoned back, but that's the only person I know of and its clearly not him.

The person in question had to have survived the aoe for a good minute if it was an FD (or resist). Also I heard no mention of "Hey i'm in shroom room fd gonna /q"..

He'll remain a mystery in the shadows it seems.

[finalgrunt]

I guess, from nosw on, you also need to have somebody in shroom's room, frapsing it. So much fun :(

[Junkman]

all i got from this video was a bad necro who has a horrible ui lol

[Servellious]

PROOF, althought next time, have trakanon targeted and try /assist but prolly wont work thru the walls. Can gm's check encounter logs and see who the dumb fuck was that kept standing and fding cause his guild wiped to trak.

[maverixdamighty]

Was it TMO? Was it FE? Was it 'rainbow_bright_guildmember_01'? WHO COULD IT BE?!?!

Long and short, this video only proves that Trak came through the wall, and killed FE people. While that is lamentable, there is no value in declaring ANYONE as the bad guys here, because it cannot be proved. Hell, it could have been (i'm not saying it was) someone in FE who came in on the TMO engage and got trak touched... we just don't have any evidence here at all.

For to the poster who said go look at Trak logs:
I respect that you're trying to help identify who did this, and that you're probably a knowledgable player and already know, but figured I would state the obvious just in case anyone wasn't aware how logs worked. When Trak resets, the log clears. There is no retaining of information from one engage to the next. The only time the log is updated is after Trakanon is engaged. If that engage results in Trak's death, the log is retained as "complete". If Trak wins, and resets, then the log is wiped out. (thats what this video shows). If the person FDs, Trak resets, they stand and are still agro, its a "new engage log" with only that person on it.

If there is someone in the shroom maze, or someone under the rock, or someone in Greater Faydark, the answer still remains the same, it is not shown on this video. Because Trak resets, it will not be retained in the log. There is no way to "prove it" in this instance unless someone was where the person who had agro was standing / flopping / whatever / and could synch that with Trakanon going apeshit and ending up on ledge.

I will grant that there is a possibility that it could have been someone in TMO, but it could just as easily have been someone in any other guild or even an unguilded person on the server. (Please be logical and don't latch onto this as an admission or denial of guilt, I am just trying to be as neutral as possible here)

I was at this trak, I was in vent, and I never heard anyone say "I'm FD in shrooms, i'm going to fuck with FE" The closest to this I heard was "Who can drag my corpse from shrooms?"

My guess of what happened here?
Without evidence its hard to say, but my guess is that someone got Trak touched and flopped, waited till trak was reset and stood... heard Trak is agro and failed a flop... had to wait obligatory X seconds, and flopped again which is why Trak got as far as it did on the first "training" (who knows it may have been 2 fails). Waited a couple mins, hoping trak would forget them, then stood again and heard the same thing so flopped again (trak didn't go as far second time).

This is one of the MAJOR reasons that TMO moved to the other side of the water a month ago... to avoid possible trains when we were prepping to engage. You're vulnerable in that spot, plain and simple... not because someone is intent on disrupting your raid, but because any number of things can cause Trak to agro you, especially with change in agro radius.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/3012035/come-on-man-o.gif

[Lorraine]

Rule No 1: Always blame and ban Faz
Rule No 2: Always blame and ban Tortue
Rule No 3: When in doubt, apply both Rules No 1 and 2


If I had to choose amongst the 10 (initial /who) and 6 (second /who) TMO names in that list, I'd say this is a clear case of Rule No 2.

[raff01]

All of this will be so much more fun when repeated in NtoV / Kael / ST

[Alarti0001]

PROOF, althought next time, have trakanon targeted and try /assist but prolly wont work thru the walls. Can gm's check encounter logs and see who the dumb fuck was that kept standing and fding cause his guild wiped to trak.

Merkk's spell fizzles.

[Ele]

PROOF, althought next time, have trakanon targeted and try /assist but prolly wont work thru the walls. Can gm's check encounter logs and see who the dumb fuck was that kept standing and fding cause his guild wiped to trak.

Nope.

[Nirgon]

1:24 I see Trak take off for the sewers.

Someone feigned and didn't /q.

[Nirgon]

Sorry that they fixed his aggro radius :( must be hard when you don't just bust him with 160 people on his spawn point.

Now if we can get him to successfully Trak Touch invuln people and ensure his life tap is a 0.0 casted effect rather than a proc, we're in bidness.

Couple of sky mob fixes and invis pulling/always adding nearby players to aggro list and dare I say we're ready for Velious.

[47shadesofgay]

Surely the person that took this fraps can simply search his logs for the timestamps and supply them to the GMs to check the server encounter logs to see which individual it was that Trak was agroing?

I agree it's pretty impossible to prove without that, and I agree it was most likely someone at shrooms. I also agree that since TMO had engaged at this point and the thought of FE continually training there own raid intentionally is small it is most likely a member of TMO, the GMs should be able to confirm with encounter logs as long as you supply them some time stamps.

That said, this video is pretty terrible. This guy can't handle his camera views appropriately, he never attempts to /ass with Trakanon on target (probably wouldnt work because of range but worth a shot), for some reason Visceral is spamming guild chat to log on (only people logged in are going to see this derp) and this dude fucking replies by typing /r instead of just hitting the 'r' key. He also doesn't seem to have a hotbutton setup to cast FD, he moves his mouse over and clicks the spell icon.

Is this player a fucking noob? What is going on here?

P.S. Target shows help on click is annoying as fuck disable that and fix your ui

[radditsu]

Sorry that they fixed his aggro radius :( must be hard when you don't just bust him with 160 people on his spawn point.

Now if we can get him to successfully Trak Touch invuln people and ensure his life tap is a 0.0 casted effect rather than a proc, we're in bidness.

Couple of sky mob fixes and invis pulling/always adding nearby players to aggro list and dare I say we're ready for Velious.

To be fair they need to make arrow flight + circlet clicks classic if you want to fix invis pulling. Gimme my SK single pull anything awesomeness.


His difficulty is not the issue here(I know,I know, needs to be harder). My Digital Illustration shows the problem.



Also whatever happened to a little courtesy? Why even attempt a corpse run when another guild is on the verge of pulling the mob. All kidding aside, this is a game. Some of us may even consider it a "sport". Something does not need to be an Olympic event to be considered a "sport".

I played sports in Varsity/College, I learned sportsmanship. I know some bad apple mouth-breathers never learned about sportsmanship and honor, and lived very self centered lives. This combined with internet anonymity makes it easy to forget to be sporting. TMO wiped, TMO lost this one. I have been in Vent when FE wiped, and FE lost, never once did I hear Sloan or Shinko or anyone talk about "Corpse Recovery". It was always "Lets See what TMO does and try to get ready". A few spoiled shady brats ( Darkdeath, Zeelot, Eccezan, others) continually seem to promote this kind of behavior.

People like these should join a soccer or baseball team, and learn about something more than themselves.

[radditsu]

Surely the person that took this fraps can simply search his logs for the timestamps and supply them to the GMs to check the server encounter logs to see which individual it was that Trak was agroing?

I agree it's pretty impossible to prove without that, and I agree it was most likely someone at shrooms. I also agree that since TMO had engaged at this point and the thought of FE continually training there own raid intentionally is small it is most likely a member of TMO, the GMs should be able to confirm with encounter logs as long as you supply them some time stamps.

That said, this video is pretty terrible. This guy can't handle his camera views appropriately, he never attempts to /ass with Trakanon on target (probably wouldnt work because of range but worth a shot), for some reason Visceral is spamming guild chat to log on (only people logged in are going to see this derp) and this dude fucking replies by typing /r instead of just hitting the 'r' key. He also doesn't seem to have a hotbutton setup to cast FD, he moves his mouse over and clicks the spell icon.

Is this player a fucking noob? What is going on here?

P.S. Target shows help on click is annoying as fuck disable that and fix your ui


Prob someone just was logged in to do dmf's and such. People swap around on toons all the time. It would be really annoying to setup more than defaults on every toon you swap around. They also may not know about gnome vision. Just a thought.

[Alarti0001]

To be fair they need to make arrow flight + circlet clicks classic if you want to fix invis pulling. Gimme my SK single pull anything awesomeness.


His difficulty is not the issue here(I know,I know, needs to be harder). My Digital Illustration shows the problem.



Also whatever happened to a little courtesy? Why even attempt a corpse run when another guild is on the verge of pulling the mob. All kidding aside, this is a game. Some of us may even consider it a "sport". Something does not need to be an Olympic event to be considered a "sport".

I played sports in Varsity/College, I learned sportsmanship. I know some bad apple mouth-breathers never learned about sportsmanship and honor, and lived very self centered lives. This combined with internet anonymity makes it easy to forget to be sporting. TMO wiped, TMO lost this one. I have been in Vent when FE wiped, and FE lost, never once did I hear Sloan or Shinko or anyone talk about "Corpse Recovery". It was always "Lets See what TMO does and try to get ready". A few spoiled shady brats ( Darkdeath, Zeelot, Eccezan, others) continually seem to promote this kind of behavior.

People like these should join a soccer or baseball team, and learn about something more than themselves.

You are uninformed.... PM me and Ill tell you some secrets about some of your leaders!

[maverixdamighty]

You are uninformed.... PM me and Ill tell you some secrets about some of your leaders!

i'm sure people will believe any secrets you tell them...

[Mortiiss]

Sorry that they fixed his aggro radius :( must be hard when you don't just bust him with 160 people on his spawn point.

Now if we can get him to successfully Trak Touch invuln people and ensure his life tap is a 0.0 casted effect rather than a proc, we're in bidness.

Couple of sky mob fixes and invis pulling/always adding nearby players to aggro list and dare I say we're ready for Velious.

Keep living in the past, there hasn't been a 100+ person sock on Trak in a couple months now.

[Alarti0001]

i'm sure people will believe any secrets you tell them...

Mav... stop riding my dick! Its getting sore and I think I've developed a rash.

[radditsu]

You are uninformed.... PM me and Ill tell you some secrets about some of your leaders!

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[Mortiiss]

Mav... stop riding my dick! Its getting sore and I think I've developed a rash.

He has a point though.

[Alarti0001]

He has a point though.

Nah some people are more reasonable that others.

[Mortiiss]

Nah some people are more reasonable that others.

Yeah, and we all know how unreasonable you can be when it comes to your guild.

[Alarti0001]

Yeah, and we all know how unreasonable you can be when it comes to your guild.

No... you obviously don't. You just don't like my standards of evidence/proof. They inconvenience your crusade.

[Mortiiss]

No... you obviously don't. You just don't like my standards of evidence/proof. They inconvenience your crusade.

No, I'm fine with evidence and proof actually. You need to understand that the fine print isn't all that matters. Just because a variable isn't accounted for doesn't mean all others are ignored. Trak clearly doesn't move until FE logs in, not just once but TWICE. Yeah, that doesn't matter at all - you're right. Hahaha, such a faggot.

[Alarti0001]

No, I'm fine with evidence and proof actually. You need to understand that the fine print isn't all that matters. Just because a variable isn't accounted for doesn't mean all others are ignored. Trak clearly doesn't move until FE logs in, not just once but TWICE. Yeah, that doesn't matter at all - you're right. Hahaha, such a faggot.

You attribute alot of importance on unprovable unknowable variables.

And then you get mad and call me a bigoted slur.... Ya... you are rational!

[maverixdamighty]

Mav... stop riding my dick! Its getting sore and I think I've developed a rash.

alarti no one is riding your dick or you wouldn't have to be on e-harmony or whatever dating website you subscribe too...

also pretty sure you are the one who sends me tells in game because you get so butthurt.

Good day scrub.

[maverixdamighty]

No... you obviously don't. You just don't like my standards of evidence/proof. They inconvenience your crusade.

you never provide proof of anything you POS lol. what a fukn tool. go sit in the corner with your dunce cap clown boy.

[Alarti0001]

you never provide proof of anything you POS lol. what a fukn tool. go sit in the corner with your dunce cap clown boy.

? What claim am I trying to prove? Reading comprehension brah....

also, u mad? lol

[maverixdamighty]

? What claim am I trying to prove? Reading comprehension brah....

also, u mad? lol

go review your posting history. you never provide proof of anything. where is this merkk fizzles proof. again go to your corner clown boy and update your dating profile.

[Alarti0001]

go review your posting history. you never provide proof of anything. where is this merkk fizzles proof. again go to your corner clown boy and update your dating profile.

I don't make claims. =) Unless they are outstanding claims/obvious trolls/or listed as opinion. Derp
Merkk even admits to his fizzle mishap. Was a good troll though.
You are uninformed :)

[maverixdamighty]

I don't make claims. =) Unless they are outstanding claims/obvious trolls/or listed as opinion. Derp
Merkk even admits to his fizzle mishap. Was a good troll though.
You are uninformed :)

the only thing you do is make yourself look like an idiot. i don't have the patience to deal with your stupidity. have fun posting.

p.s. hope you finally lose your virginity.

[Alarti0001]

the only thing you do is make yourself look like an idiot. i don't have the patience to deal with your stupidity. have fun posting.

p.s. hope you finally lose your virginity.

Haha run along now.

Your posts always entertain me I anjoy your frothiness. You have nothing to stand on so you resort to petty insults and r/l trolling. Please comment more on my real life with your 87% raid attendence.

[maverixdamighty]

Haha run along now.

Your posts always entertain me I anjoy your frothiness. You have nothing to stand on so you resort to petty insults and r/l trolling. Please comment more on my real life with your 87% raid attendence.

troll

[bluejam]

It's not hard to set up a "/w <guild>" + "/time" macro. Just saying.

[bluejam]

"/w guild" + "/time" *

[Hasbinbad]

You are uninformed.... PM me and Ill tell you some secrets about some of your leaders!
You really should just say this stuff out loud.

[Kieu]

You really should just say this stuff out loud.

Because people believe anything that comes off of his fingers, and onto the computer screen in which he calls a dungeon.

[Nirgon]

Also whatever happened to a little courtesy?

Unfortunately the TMO/FE thing (tag or no tag) has gotten to the point there can probably never be any.

[quido]

Nirgon we rolled The Mystical Entry on red and are doing it big.

[Nirgon]

8/10 guild name

May Veeshan guide your wheelchairs

[Alarti0001]

8/10 guild name

May Veeshan guide your wheelchairs

Should make a rival guild named Forceful Order

[Servellious]

Looks like tortur was using the good trick on FE

[Servellious]

Tortue~. Stupid iphone

[Nirgon]

Just make a guild of lvl 16 mages and 2box them in unrest while you're waiting for VP trains to clear.

BTW I need to have the father son talk with you gentlemen about killing mobs under train and shit.

Make me a vent account.