where is the eccezan server repop thread...

[Picks]

... letting us know how much tmo crushes everybody.

[Tiggles]

... letting us know how much tmo crushes everybody.

wait till we kill all the mobs?

were beating you still btw

[Hailto]

FE: Trakanon, Sev, Talendor

TMO: Draco?, Gore

[Tiggles]

FE: Trakanon, Sev, Talendor

TMO: Draco?, Gore

VS,Inny,CT,Gore,Draco,PD,Silverwing


Also tell your monks that training a single silverwing onto a group of buffed TMO isnt really training....it's pulling.

[odiecat99]

too bad being leet ingame doesn't change the fact that you're a total nutsack failure in real life.

[Tiggles]

too bad being leet ingame doesn't change the fact that you're a total nutsack failure in real life.

no, but it helps me forget....

[Hailto]

What does being a nutsack failure entail?

[Tiggles]

What does being a nutsack failure entail?

I think you try and nutsack but can't

[Hailto]

o

[OforOppression]

tmo makin me sad

what happened to the "nothing but trakanon matters" campaign?

[Hailto]

tmo makin me sad

what happened to the "nothing but trakanon matters" campaign?

Hey pal, lets do some anoms please

[OforOppression]

u need to solo

[pharmakos]

wait, shit actually repopped when the server went down?

[Mortiiss]

yawn

[Alarti0001]

VS,Inny,CT,Gore,Draco,PD,Silverwing


Also tell your monks that training a single silverwing onto a group of buffed TMO isnt really training....it's pulling.

+ nexona, druushk, hoshkar, xygoz

[Hasbinbad]

lol you guys swept VP with FE there?

[Alarti0001]

lol you guys swept VP with FE there?

Yep 0 wipes.... was pretty epic actually.

[Hasbinbad]

0 wipes meaning Necrious lived the whole time?

or

0 wipes meaning the large majority of your raidforce was ready for a pull at all times?

[Alarti0001]

0 wipes meaning Necrious lived the whole time?

or

0 wipes meaning the large majority of your raidforce was ready for a pull at all times?

a heavy majority of the raid was alive the entire time. 0 deaths for me

[Hasbinbad]

That's pretty crazy. Are they having a hard time training you on the roof?

[Godefroi]

tmo makin me sad

what happened to the "nothing but trakanon matters" campaign?

4th trakanon in a row, nothing much they can do. Its in our focus to finish keying our roster.

TMO focuses on VP when they can get fast kills, sometimes it lasts 1h sometimes 15h.

Congratz to all winners ;)

I think meccezan understood how dumb he looked, maybe why he sticks to TMO's guild thread :P

[Tiggles]

That's pretty crazy. Are they having a hard time training you on the roof?

Pulled and killed every single mob to the zone in.

They got so tired of having there trains derailed and losing mobs to us they formed a KS group to try and steal XP and loot since they dared not to bring an actual raid force into VP.

Of the 6 of them only 3 made the charts. They will be getting conditional DKP when they app to TMO after FE burns out.

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[Hasbinbad]

their*

[Hasbinbad]

Wow Fundo, u got outdamaged by a pet bro.

[AenarieFenninRo]

Wow Fundo, u got outdamaged by a pet bro.

In his defense, Gabobrik is actually a rogue, not a pet...

[quido]

lol

[Godefroi]

Lol

[quido]

ain't u heard, TMO pets outdps FE rogues

common knowledge

[OforOppression]

dave wildner shouldnt be accusing anyone of rmt

[Halfelfbard]

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[Halfelfbard]

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Me b4 we raided VP...gotta keep my legs strong.

[Handull]

so to start the repop we have
FE: Trakanon, Sev, Talendor
TMO: VS, Inny, Gore

interesting that TMO goes for Inny and Gore, two mobs which they don't actively track for, and one which they have publicly left up 'for the good of the server' in the past. gotta make sure you get that classic era content before its too late.

then fe/tmo met in Fear and had fun with zone desyncs and other nonsense.

then tmo throws its 60+ raid force at VP and comes out on top.


lets not forget grats taken on dojo/ooa, divinity on hand, bda on fay?, and someone got naggy/vox i think. i liked the part where people forgot about Yael down in the hole :P

[Godefroi]

Qf dreaming equally as hard of FE disbanding and finding a new job , it's cute :D

[raff01]

WTB a social life and a job...
Poor people...really...

[Godefroi]

WTB a social life and a job...
Poor people...really...

no, but it helps me forget....

Quickfingers is a rather desperate case indeed, fat, jobless, but there are some great people in TMO as well pal!

[Dandal McDeadly]

Love how TMO is still killing raid targets they don't need gear from.

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http://www.eccezan.com/

Sorry, we currently don't have any manastones in stock :(

[arsenalpow]

We (even though i missed it, was busy with family shit) got Fay, Naggy, Vox, and our puller couldn't quite handle Talendor who was then promptly gobbled up by the gaping maw that is FE's 70 man raid force.

Grats to whoever got whatever.

[Hasbinbad]

FE mustered 70 people and tmo still swept VP?

[arsenalpow]

FE mustered 70 people and tmo still swept VP?

I'm sure their 70 man skyfire raid force is much different from their VP keyed raid force.

[Tippett]

u guys shud try red some time

not that this server isnt fun, i played it before red came out but its fun too

just sounds like this stuff is kinda repetitive + i would like more people to kill/kill with

[maverixdamighty]

We (even though i missed it, was busy with family shit) got Fay, Naggy, Vox, and our puller couldn't quite handle Talendor who was then promptly gobbled up by the gaping maw that is FE's 70 man raid force.

Grats to whoever got whatever.

50 and 70 is pretty close. i'm sure your 20 man raid force for talendor was ready for your pull...

[Tippett]

50 and 70 is pretty close. i'm sure your 20 man raid force for talendor was ready for your pull...

why are you being a dick to that guy for no reason

[Hasbinbad]

The plot thins.

[maverixdamighty]

why are you being a dick to that guy for no reason

because he is making up crap when he already stated he wasn't there?

[Godefroi]

I'm sure their 70 man skyfire raid force is much different from their VP keyed raid force.

Yup, for now, 4 consecutive traks are fixing this slowly but surely.

[Tippett]

because he is making up crap when he already stated he wasn't there?

making up crap? all he said was u got talendor, did you like not get the dragon?

not seeing the part that made you mad

[Cecily]

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Why would you try to KS that dragon? This is painful to look at.

[arsenalpow]

Ok I'm making stuff up, when Tal was inc to your raid you had 63 if you want to get real fucking specific, I just assumed that you still had players en route and rounded up to 70. There were 130+ en route to fear, 70FE vs 60TMO sounded pretty accurate to me

[arsenalpow]

making up crap? all he said was u got talendor, did you like not get the dragon?

not seeing the part that made you mad

He doesn't like me insinuating that he's part of a zerg force even though FE is a zerg force, just like TMO is a zerg force. In order to compete at the highest level on p99 you need 70-100 active raiders so you can manage 30-40 at any time of the day. The server repop was during prime time thus allowing a large swath of FE's roster to be present for the kill, hence the 70 man turnout.

I don't particularly understand the saltiness over statistical analysis.

[Cecily]

making up crap? all he said was u got talendor, did you like not get the dragon?

not seeing the part that made you mad

I'm guessing it's the subtle zerg insult. Our kill log said 61, so 70 is probably accurate? So yeah, Chest would be right. Repops suck b/c everyone shows up. The numbers get kinda shameful, but w/e. I'll take the DKP.

[Cecily]

Opps. I really meant to say Talendor requires the absolute highest level of skill and precision. Fuck you Chest.

[Godefroi]

I can understand Chest being bitter that FE has achieved what BDA failed at. It's just that you decided to fight fire with ice creams and giggles, no batphone, no zerg, are we playing on the same server dude?

The way P99 works will never change (batphones, zergs), what can change is how guilds treat each other and how they can find agreements together, organize pugs, FFA raids and try to preserve the classic experience for guilds that have chosen a classic raiding style (no batphone).

[arsenalpow]

Does bitter mean the same thing in French as it does in English? I'll have to ask Jarn.

[Hasbinbad]

bitter can mean a taste similar to sour, but it can also describe an emotional state of jaded, hateful cynicism.

[Tiggles]

I got charmed by hoshkar and stabbed merkk to death then landed a clutch sneak to survive.

[Fountree]

Gratz all around on the repop kills! Ugh I missed it all...

[Godefroi]

Gratz all around on the repop kills! Ugh I missed it all...

WB buddy

Summer soon, any festivals planned ?

I'm going for rock en seine + Tame impala :cool:

[Alarti0001]

so to start the repop we have
FE: Trakanon, Sev, Talendor
TMO: VS, Inny, Gore

interesting that TMO goes for Inny and Gore, two mobs which they don't actively track for, and one which they have publicly left up 'for the good of the server' in the past. gotta make sure you get that classic era content before its too late.

then fe/tmo met in Fear and had fun with zone desyncs and other nonsense.

then tmo throws its 60+ raid force at VP and comes out on top.


lets not forget grats taken on dojo/ooa, divinity on hand, bda on fay?, and someone got naggy/vox i think. i liked the part where people forgot about Yael down in the hole :P


Your timeline..... its inaccurate.

It was VS>INNY>Draco>CT>Gore>VP for TMO

FE I think was something similar to Sev>Trak>Tal>ummmm

[Tiggles]

Server at large should be pissed off at FEs cowardly approach.

If FE went Trak into VP then TMO would of went VS into VP and alllll the other mobs would of been up all damn day for the lesser guilds.

Instead FEs 40+ KEYED members chose to literally end there day by slaying 3 uncontested mobs then wait for us to sweep up the rest before sending in there terrible monk crew to train and make zero VP attempts.

[Hasbinbad]

FE still actually needs nagafen loot tho.

[quido]

Grats Taken for cockblocking Chest on his third sky fist

[quido]

we only zerg VP now lol

[hatelore]

because he is making up crap when he already stated he wasn't there?
Actually he wasn't there lol, and you guys did have a 70 man raid force for Talendor, and you've never heard of killing more with less? ;) We had a shot before the gaping maw showed up lol.

[maverixdamighty]

Actually he wasn't there lol, and you guys did have a 70 man raid force for Talendor, and you've never heard of killing more with less? ;) We had a shot before the gaping maw showed up lol.

i said he wasn't there so not sure why you feel like repeating it...we didn't have 70 and we've heard of killing more with less, but you guys clearly weren't capable with what you had there or you wouldn't have left.

[Versus]

FE is furious that they are being called a zerg, it's hilarious.

[maverixdamighty]

FE is furious that they are being called a zerg, it's hilarious.

don't like made up numbers, but your guild is used to making them up. you guys had 70 at ct and I can say that because I was there and i /all 'tmo' in fear.

[quido]

you're supposed to round up to the next multiple of 10 or 20 when describing the opposing force's numbers, duh

[maverixdamighty]

you're supposed to round up to the next multiple of 10 or 20 when describing the opposing force's numbers, duh

ya i think the 20 rule gets applied alot.

[hatelore]

Naw, we left once we saw the shout that he was pulled. We figured there was no way you guys could fail on such a trivial encounter with so many. Either way grats! Was nice to see a server repop, at least now hat charging won't be such a pain in wc :)

[Versus]

don't like made up numbers, but your guild is used to making them up. you guys had 70 at ct and I can say that because I was there and i /all 'tmo' in fear.

You are aware that Chest is in BDA, not TMO, right? ;(

[Godefroi]

we only zerg VP now lol

Im pretty sure when we are done keying VP will desync when we both go full force, gonna be pretty. 60 on your side of circle ledge, 70 on ours.

Yummies lol

[maverixdamighty]

You are aware that Chest is in BDA, not TMO, right? ;(

very aware. go back and read some of eccefats troll posts.

[hatelore]

You are aware that Chest is in BDA, not TMO, right? ;(
Quit trying to confuse people, that's a baseless accusation that wouldn't be true even if you dreamed it up! Chest=tmo.

[quido]

Chest=tmo.

I consider this to be the most offensive insult my wonderful guild has ever endured.

how dare you...

[Godefroi]

Chest is good people, just wants p99 to have no batphone and no big numbers, which is very unlikely to happen, just because it doesnt work that way here.

[quido]

yeah maybe once he has two sky fists for bank set and some more gm event loot defaulted to himself he can start spreading the love to the people who managed to remain loyal to him

[hatelore]

I consider this to be the most offensive insult my wonderful guild has ever endured.

how dare you...

I tried to warn u man... Should have updated dicktaters more often!

[quido]

lol I will resume that project one day

I took a job doing web development shortly after I made dicktaters.net so I kind of got tired of doing more of it at home off the clock =P soon!

[hatelore]

Dicktaters has serious potential! Lol hope you do!

[Lazortag]

50 and 70 is pretty close. i'm sure your 20 man raid force for talendor was ready for your pull...

You say this as if 20 people isn't enough for talendor?

[quido]

We should honestly commit a few weeks of raiding to low-number challenges. I think it would be fun.

[maverixdamighty]

You say this as if 20 people isn't enough for talendor?

if it's the right balance sure. we would have gotten alot more talendors back in the day if it was so easy right?

[Nirgon]

Ah yes, killing Trak while they kill PD.

A wise move.

[Jarnauga]

I'm curious to hear who in BDA deserve the sky fists beside Chest, according to Jeremy.

[arsenalpow]

yeah maybe once he has two sky fists for bank set and some more gm event loot defaulted to himself he can start spreading the love to the people who managed to remain loyal to him

I probably don't deserve the wu fists, but then again I'm the only remaining active monk in the guild aside from Anthrax's alt and Vandalize, but you're probably right Jeremy.

[quido]

I seem to remember you having more recently.

[Jarnauga]

Jeremy, 5 toons with VP gear, epic and pretty much BiS tells Chest, one 54 alt and one 52 alt (no epics, some planar gear) "U GREEDY"

OH THE IRONING.

[kotton05]

I got charmed by hoshkar and stabbed merkk to death then landed a clutch sneak to survive.

How did silverwing not aggro? She did same path hosh did yet we both made it.
and GG qf i'd charm you any day to do my biddings=-)

grats all on the targets, i really thought velious was dropping with all of rogeans velious questions.

[quido]

You obviously haven't inspected my alts. My bard isn't even VP-keyed.

[quido]

Furthermore, I raise no quarrel with the desire for geared chars! I troll Chest over proportionality

[kotton05]

We should honestly commit a few weeks of raiding to low-number challenges. I think it would be fun.

Guild A says I can kill Talendor with 20

Guild b says I can kill Talendor with 18

etc etc....? Lowest raid force gets first shot..? would be cool.

[Cecily]

You obviously haven't inspected my alts. My bard isn't even VP-keyed.

Then how do you explain all the VP loot? HMMMM?

[quido]

Then how do you explain all the VP loot? HMMMM?

the fuk u talkin about?

[arsenalpow]

Furthermore, I raise no quarrel with the desire for geared chars! I troll Chest over proportionality

Jeremy is just trying to stay in character (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/jeremy-irons-on-gay-marri_n_3009495.html)

[quido]

lol that "there's no such thing as a dumb question" line is bullshit

I'm off to work, chaps =) chat with you in a few hours

[chief]

Why would you try to KS that dragon? This is painful to look at.

your character was trying to ks as well, except you got charmed lawl

[arsenalpow]

your character was trying to ks as well, except you got charmed lawl

Dragon charm is stupid. Level 60 Bard with 400mr? Back to back to back to back charmed. Seems broken.

[Cecily]

Yeah I thought about that as I was logging in. "Oh god, Cec was probably in that band of heroes."

Did she kill anyone? :D

[eadric]

We had 25, would have hot a shot at least, but FE rolled in with 60+ and beat us on the pull. Grats them I guess? Way to compete with TMO on the server repop lol.

We got Fay. Naggy, and Vox (with 10 or so Rapture) with our little force, it was fun except for seeing all our former guildmates in FE roll in and compete with us instead of TMO.

[TotallyLegit]

We had 25, would have hot a shot at least, but FE rolled in with 60+ and beat us on the pull. Grats them I guess? Way to compete with TMO on the server repop lol.

We got Fay. Naggy, and Vox (with 10 or so Rapture) with our little force, it was fun except for seeing all our former guildmates in FE roll in and compete with us instead of TMO.

You must be lying. FE is the heroic guild on the server and they do not race against smaller guilds.

[eadric]

You must be lying. FE is the heroic guild on the server and they do not race against smaller guilds.
Anyone who really believes FE is going to change the server for the better is delusional. I know the guys who started it and why they started it, and they aren't going to change the raiding scene if they manage to get on top.

That being said, we probably wouldn't have had a shot at naggy or vox if FE wasn't in VP with TMO, because TMO would have zerged those mobs down as well.

[Halfelfbard]

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[radditsu]

Anyone who really believes FE is going to change the server for the better is delusional. I know the guys who started it and why they started it, and they aren't going to change the raiding scene if they manage to get on top.

That being said, we probably wouldn't have had a shot at naggy or vox if FE wasn't in VP with TMO, because TMO would have zerged those mobs down as well.

I don't think you really do understand. Most of us started it to push TMO's shit right back up their assholes. Not to be passive bitches about it. The time for passive reasonable discussion was over for me when they trained our entire guild for a maestro and nothing was done about. People wanted loot, and wanted to fight for it. And they have been very successful at it so far.

Only thing is as long as TMO is a guild they will always try to do what they have done for the past year. Which means FE will have to do what they have to do. Which means WHEN FE starts taking more targets per week it will look like we are "hoarding targets". When in reality we will be trying to starve them out. But we never will starve them out completely. Only way I can see this cycle stopping completely is if the sociopath's that run their little cartel passes it off to people who have in the past been a bit reasonable. Jeremy, Frezia-adventure time avatar guy, and even STEALIN have made reasonable posts in the past year. Alarti is mostly harmless, he just really gets off on making people rage on message boards.

Only way to do this is to make it as unprofitable as possible for them to play this game.... In pixel wealth of course.

This is all tempered by the fact that there are shitheads in every guild. FE has em too. BDA has em too.

All you other guilds help dismantle the empire with what momentum FE has built over the last few months, and you will see some changes. Otherwise its just a cold war of butt-fuckery. Deal with it.

[Alarti0001]

Anyone who really believes FE is going to change the server for the better is delusional. I know the guys who started it and why they started it, and they aren't going to change the raiding scene if they manage to get on top.

That being said, we probably wouldn't have had a shot at naggy or vox if FE wasn't in VP with TMO, because TMO would have zerged those mobs down as well.

1. I agree

2. We left naggy and Vox up for the little guys. We could have easily killed those 2 dragons while our train team handled FE. If you saw their last Nex attempt you would know this as truth. You can debate whether we left them up for laziness or for real altruism however. Might be some of both!

[Alarti0001]

I don't think you really do understand. Most of us started it to push TMO's shit right back up their assholes. Not to be passive bitches about it. The time for passive reasonable discussion was over for me when they trained our entire guild for a maestro and nothing was done about. People wanted loot, and wanted to fight for it. And they have been very successful at it so far.

Only thing is as long as TMO is a guild they will always try to do what they have done for the past year. Which means FE will have to do what they have to do. Which means WHEN FE starts taking more targets per week it will look like we are "hoarding targets". When in reality we will be trying to starve them out. But we never will starve them out completely. Only way I can see this cycle stopping completely is if the sociopath's that run their little cartel passes it off to people who have in the past been a bit reasonable. Jeremy, Frezia-adventure time avatar guy, and even STEALIN have made reasonable posts in the past year. Alarti is mostly harmless, he just really gets off on making people rage on message boards.

Only way to do this is to make it as unprofitable as possible for them to play this game.... In pixel wealth of course.

This is all tempered by the fact that there are shitheads in every guild. FE has em too. BDA has em too.

All you other guilds help dismantle the empire with what momentum FE has built over the last few months, and you will see some changes. Otherwise its just a cold war of butt-fuckery. Deal with it.

The sad part is... I think you truly believe most of what you wrote :(

[TotallyLegit]

Yeah you really gave it to TMO when you steamrolled over BDA to get Tal. LALS

[philbertpk]

VS,Inny,CT,Gore,Draco,PD,Silverwing


Also tell your monks that training a single silverwing onto a group of buffed TMO isnt really training....it's pulling.

lolz

[Jarnauga]

i can understand that it's hard to be the good guys when competing with TMO. Seriously, i get it. We did it in BDA for 2 weeks and TMO couldn't do shit, BECAUSE TMO couldn't do shit.

But when you see a guild prepping for Talendor that is not TMO, srsly guys. let them have a shot. you won't miss that red dragon scale. I see you all in that thread by Daimadoshi (<3) saying that you want that, and i believe you guys, fo'real. But when the timing is perfect like this, there's nothing. No acts.

But yeah, yeah.. you deserve the loot. all of it. no one denies that. The problem with FE is not that they can lose.. in a sense, they already won. The risk is that they can turn into TMO.

PS: Mavtank/Mavpal was already a dumbass when he was in Divinity, i guess he didn't change.

[Tiggles]

FE being the top guild on the server would be 100% worse for the lesser guilds then TMO is right now.


IF Leaving stuff up didn't guarantee FE free loot TMO would leave lots of stuff up.

Trust me if TMO leaves this server and FE is number one other guilds will never see a mob again because they need to gear up there 300 active raiders first with bone razors and divine war hammers.

[hatelore]

I don't think you really do understand. Most of us started it to push TMO's shit right back up their assholes. Not to be passive bitches about it. The time for passive reasonable discussion was over for me when they trained our entire guild for a maestro and nothing was done about. People wanted loot, and wanted to fight for it. And they have been very successful at it so far.

Only thing is as long as TMO is a guild they will always try to do what they have done for the past year. Which means FE will have to do what they have to do. Which means WHEN FE starts taking more targets per week it will look like we are "hoarding targets". When in reality we will be trying to starve them out. But we never will starve them out completely. Only way I can see this cycle stopping completely is if the sociopath's that run their little cartel passes it off to people who have in the past been a bit reasonable. Jeremy, Frezia-adventure time avatar guy, and even STEALIN have made reasonable posts in the past year. Alarti is mostly harmless, he just really gets off on making people rage on message boards.

Only way to do this is to make it as unprofitable as possible for them to play this game.... In pixel wealth of course.

This is all tempered by the fact that there are shitheads in every guild. FE has em too. BDA has em too.



All you other guilds help dismantle the empire with what momentum FE has built over the last few months, and you will see some changes. Otherwise its just a cold war of butt-fuckery. Deal with it.

That sort of doesn't hold water considering the fact that tmo wasn't even in skyfire. Starving tmo of targets is one thing, but I don't think bda members have a tmo tag over there head. So I wouldn't say that, you guys bringing a zerg force to skyfire starved tmo. I think they had other things to occupy them at that time of the night.

[hatelore]

Jus sayin

[eadric]

1. I agree

2. We left naggy and Vox up for the little guys. We could have easily killed those 2 dragons while our train team handled FE. If you saw their last Nex attempt you would know this as truth. You can debate whether we left them up for laziness or for real altruism however. Might be some of both!
Whatever the reason for leaving them up, we'll take it. TMO hasn't been the ones fucking up our weekly sky raids on Fridays either - that would be FE.

I'm not buying the holy crusade propaganda anymore, Tanrin. Your leaders only joined BDA because there was no longer an IB, anti-TMO guild for them to join. When they couldn't turn BDA into the next IB, they left to form their own guild. FE is the next IB, and if they defeat TMO and starve them off the server, that will in turn spawn the next TMO. The cycle isn't going to end, FE is just a spoke on the wheel.

[Tiggles]

Whatever the reason for leaving them up, we'll take it. TMO hasn't been the ones fucking up our weekly sky raids on Fridays either - that would be FE.

I'm not buying the holy crusade propaganda anymore, Tanrin. Your leaders only joined BDA because there was no longer an IB, anti-TMO guild for them to join. When they couldn't turn BDA into the next IB, they left to form their own guild. FE is the next IB, and if they defeat TMO and starve them off the server, that will in turn spawn the next TMO. The cycle isn't going to end, FE is just a spoke on the wheel.

100% FE is just the remnants of IB that forgot to RMT their characters with everyone else

Its VDA 2.0 look what happened to that guild.

[Signal]

Whatever the reason for leaving them up, we'll take it. TMO hasn't been the ones fucking up our weekly sky raids on Fridays either - that would be FE.

I'm not buying the holy crusade propaganda anymore, Tanrin. Your leaders only joined BDA because there was no longer an IB, anti-TMO guild for them to join. When they couldn't turn BDA into the next IB, they left to form their own guild. FE is the next IB, and if they defeat TMO and starve them off the server, that will in turn spawn the next TMO. The cycle isn't going to end, FE is just a spoke on the wheel.

Glad someone else is seeing what I see too. TMO you know what you are gonna get. They will fight you tooth and nail for a spawn. FE smiles at you and promises change....Then runs over you when you aren't looking.

[hatelore]

There will be no change, even if Fe becomes the new TMO of p99. Look at last night do example. The only true change I think regarding top guilds will be in velious. You can't throw a zerg force at targets in velious and expect success. Right now the servers is all about having 30+ on 24/7 ,365 and of course mobilization.

[Tiggles]

Update:

TMO is proud to announce as of 2:37 pm est we have our first FE applicant on our forums due to the embarrassing show and conduct of FE on the server repop.

As always prospective members we will keep your identity confidential until we make a decision on your application.

No need to deguild from FE until then.

Enjoy the best of both worlds!

[arsenalpow]

Name?

Don't worry, you can just PM me.

[Splorf22]

What is the quote from Nietche? "When you stare into the void the void stares into you?"

[hatelore]

I think ^ that guy is the epidimy of evil.

[hatelore]

I meant tiggles. Lol

[Jarnauga]

What is the quote from Nietche? "When you stare into the void the void stares into you?"

You mean Nietzsche. Nietche hasn't ever said anything worth quoting.

[Jarnauga]

FE being the top guild on the server would be 100% worse for the lesser guilds then TMO is right now.


IF Leaving stuff up didn't guarantee FE free loot TMO would leave lots of stuff up.



yeah it's not like we saw how it was already. :rolleyes:

[Tiggles]

yeah it's not like we saw how it was already. :rolleyes:

You never have actually there has always been this contingent on IB players who always try and stir the pot from IB to VD to FE.

Once this group of ever slimming players dies out completely and the other guilds recognize and pay tribute to TMO we will open up the loot flood gates and gear out the entire server.

A little humility goes a long way in securing yourself a spot on the loot tit.


People in lesser guilds have too much pride and that is there downfall.

[hatelore]

You never have actually there has always been this contingent on IB players who always try and stir the pot from IB to VD to FE.

Once this group of ever slimming players dies out completely and the other guilds recognize and pay tribute to TMO we will open up the loot flood gates and gear out the entire server.

A little humility goes a long way in securing yourself a spot on the loot tit.


People in lesser guilds have too much pride and that is there downfall.

This mofo here really is the anti-Christ.

[Halfelfbard]

Its true, we have votes all the time...some even wanted to help you kill the mob itself with ur guild...myself included. But ur constant bickering of bullshit turned a yes vote into a no vote.

[Servellious]

Whatever the reason for leaving them up, we'll take it. TMO hasn't been the ones fucking up our weekly sky raids on Fridays either - that would be FE.

I'm not buying the holy crusade propaganda anymore, Tanrin. Your leaders only joined BDA because there was no longer an IB, anti-TMO guild for them to join. When they couldn't turn BDA into the next IB, they left to form their own guild. FE is the next IB, and if they defeat TMO and starve them off the server, that will in turn spawn the next TMO. The cycle isn't going to end, FE is just a spoke on the wheel.

Right and everyone bitching and complaining is going to make a guild want to leave targets up for that same guild right? It's funny how all these passive bda members who hardly played when the guild was hanging by threads can come here and talk all high and mighty and talk shit about another guild who is busting thier ass. You are right eadric I wish you could luck convincing fe leadership to give you a target when you shit on them any chance you get

[Alarti0001]

Right and everyone bitching and complaining is going to make a guild want to leave targets up for that same guild right? It's funny how all these passive bda members who hardly played when the guild was hanging by threads can come here and talk all high and mighty and talk shit about another guild who is busting thier ass. You are right eadric I wish you could luck convincing fe leadership to give you a target when you shit on them any chance you get

HAHAHAHA..... and now you know how we felt about you and yours. JFC this is great.

[Tiggles]

Right and everyone bitching and complaining is going to make a guild want to leave targets up for that same guild right? It's funny how all these passive bda members who hardly played when the guild was hanging by threads can come here and talk all high and mighty and talk shit about another guild who is busting thier ass. You are right eadric I wish you could luck convincing fe leadership to give you a target when you shit on them any chance you get

What's worse is this guy buying VP MQs from his own guild members to key his alt because they would rather take the plat then be force soviet style into the VP meat grinder.


Wonder how it feels to be a FE second stringer and farm your entire VP key only to be denied a tooth and guilted by the officers into "selling" it to some guy who has RMT'd his only good character.

[Alarti0001]

Whatever the reason for leaving them up, we'll take it. TMO hasn't been the ones fucking up our weekly sky raids on Fridays either - that would be FE.

I'm not buying the holy crusade propaganda anymore, Tanrin. Your leaders only joined BDA because there was no longer an IB, anti-TMO guild for them to join. When they couldn't turn BDA into the next IB, they left to form their own guild. FE is the next IB, and if they defeat TMO and starve them off the server, that will in turn spawn the next TMO. The cycle isn't going to end, FE is just a spoke on the wheel.

Glad someone else is seeing what I see too. TMO you know what you are gonna get. They will fight you tooth and nail for a spawn. FE smiles at you and promises change....Then runs over you when you aren't looking.

Found 2 people with their eyes open.

[arsenalpow]

Right and everyone bitching and complaining is going to make a guild want to leave targets up for that same guild right? It's funny how all these passive bda members who hardly played when the guild was hanging by threads can come here and talk all high and mighty and talk shit about another guild who is busting thier ass. You are right eadric I wish you could luck convincing fe leadership to give you a target when you shit on them any chance you get

Right, you're busting your ass to beat TMO. There's collateral damage involved and if you can't realize that you're either dumb (and I know you aren't) or you don't care (you obviously care) or you condone this collateral damage as a necessary part of taking down TMO. I wasn't there last night but its pretty cut and dry, we had a force, we botched the pull, and your swarm nailed Tal. To the victor goes the spoils, but you can't talk about making the server a better place then steamroll a guild not named TMO and not expect criticism.

[arsenalpow]

Found 2 people with their eyes open.

You're still a bunch of dickbags, just because there are other dickbags around doesn't give you a pass, dickbag.

[eadric]

Right and everyone bitching and complaining is going to make a guild want to leave targets up for that same guild right? It's funny how all these passive bda members who hardly played when the guild was hanging by threads can come here and talk all high and mighty and talk shit about another guild who is busting thier ass. You are right eadric I wish you could luck convincing fe leadership to give you a target when you shit on them any chance you get

I'm just calling a spade a spade man. There is a reason I didn't play much when FE was still a part of BDA. Not looking for or expecting anything from you guys other than what I already stated.

[Servellious]

What's worse is this guy buying VP MQs from his own guild members to key his alt because they would rather take the plat then be force soviet style into the VP meat grinder.


Wonder how it feels to be a FE second stringer and farm your entire VP key only to be denied a tooth and guilted by the officers into "selling" it to some guy who has RMT'd his only good character.

None of my mains are keyed toggles Xerxes and I farmed plat together and purchased a vp keyed wizard alt that we share. You should also know I said I don't want a key till every main has one since I can use bedelia but nice try.

[Alarti0001]

You're still a bunch of dickbags, just because there are other dickbags around doesn't give you a pass, dickbag.

LOL... thats fine with me. You are still an ignorant twat :)

FE has just been trying to white-knight propaganda spam so hard, and its funny when they get the same reactions that we got when we took over.

Simple facts.

TMO has tried to give mobs to the community on numerous occasions, we have passed on Fay, Inny's, Dracos, and Kunark outdoor dragons. At each turn we got shit on buy you as you cried for more.

FE has given... NOTHING back to other guilds.

TMO, as an organization, only loyalties and responsibilities should be to TMO, as FE should be to FE. Since TMO is geared we are more than capable of giving back to the server. FE is not. FE is composed of raiders... if they took over there is 0 chance that they would be able to give out mobs other than maybe Naggy/Vox/Gore. Their members have put too much time/effort/work into FE for them to not reward them.

[quido]

imo BDA doesn't get a pass where FC, FV, Taken, etc would

the fuk u think this is BDA? it doesn't matter how sorry you become, I don't think you're entitled to any quarter

[rsloans84]

I killed clay golem in ct just because he was in my way. Rawr

[Tiggles]

None of my mains are keyed toggles Xerxes and I farmed plat together and purchased a vp keyed wizard alt that we share. You should also know I said I don't want a key till every main has one since I can use bedelia but nice try.

Not the story I heard from our new app.

What I heard you RMT'd bedelia and you have some more plat laying around so you wanted to get your alt keyed.

You made a forum post attempting to buy VP keys from FE members making no mention of the "only after our 200 mains with out keys get them" clause.

Also tell supremacy to sell TMO Mcbard


I like how one in his post about selling accounts he mentions them all being IP exempt as a perk.

Quick logging, boxing pieces of shit

[Servellious]

Right, you're busting your ass to beat TMO. There's collateral damage involved and if you can't realize that you're either dumb (and I know you aren't) or you don't care (you obviously care) or you condone this collateral damage as a necessary part of taking down TMO. I wasn't there last night but its pretty cut and dry, we had a force, we botched the pull, and your swarm nailed Tal. To the victor goes the spoils, but you can't talk about making the server a better place then steamroll a guild not named TMO and not expect criticism.

I'm just sick of everyone complaining. All I ever got upset about was fte snipes and training other guilds. If we remove those 2 things along with poop socking the raid scene will be 100x better but thats just how I feel and everyone feels different some people want loot handed to them which to me makes it feel like ez server and I prolly wouldn't even want to play at that point. I like sports I like competing just leveling the playing ground and having some standard rules is the hard part I guess

[Godefroi]

LOL... thats fine with me. You are still an ignorant twat :)

FE has just been trying to white-knight propaganda spam so hard, and its funny when they get the same reactions that we got when we took over.

Simple facts.

TMO has tried to give mobs to the community on numerous occasions, we have passed on Fay, Inny's, Dracos, and Kunark outdoor dragons. At each turn we got shit on buy you as you cried for more.

FE has given... NOTHING back to other guilds.

TMO, as an organization, only loyalties and responsibilities should be to TMO, as FE should be to FE. Since TMO is geared we are more than capable of giving back to the server. FE is not. FE is composed of raiders... if they took over there is 0 chance that they would be able to give out mobs other than maybe Naggy/Vox/Gore. Their members have put too much time/effort/work into FE for them to not reward them.

if FE will farmed the server unchallenged for 1 year, we would leave a shitload of encounters open.

You farmed everything for a whole year alone, you are a fool using this argument against us since you ve barely given anything to the community.

[Tiggles]

if FE will farmed the server unchallenged for 1 year, we would still need more time to gear up our Zerg .

[rsloans84]

LOL... thats fine with me. You are still an ignorant twat :)

FE has just been trying to white-knight propaganda spam so hard, and its funny when they get the same reactions that we got when we took over.

Simple facts.


FE has given... NOTHING back to other guilds.

TMO, as an organization, only loyalties and responsibilities should be to TMO, as FE should be to FE. Since TMO is geared we are more than capable of giving back to the server. FE is not. FE is composed of raiders... if they took over there is 0 chance that they would be able to give out mobs other than maybe Naggy/Vox/Gore. Their members have put too much time/effort/work into FE for them to not reward them.

Actually i have way more respect for FE then i ever will for tmo... Expained to FE and TMO that i am guildless and dont plan on joining any guilds just helping lowbies lvl up and put on events for newbies... I asked if i could join them to look stanos head from hk for highelf mask how much theyd charge tmo says 145k and FE said free just keep in touch and we will msg when we get him next... I didnt really care to get mask but just goes to show u how much i honor FEs kindness

[Servellious]

Not the story I heard from our new app.

What I heard you RMT'd bedelia and you have some more plat laying around so you wanted to get your alt keyed.

You made a forum post attempting to buy VP keys from FE members making no mention of the "only after our 200 mains with out keys get them" clause.

Also tell supremacy to sell TMO Mcbard


I like how one in his post about selling accounts he mentions them all being IP exempt as a perk.

Quick logging, boxing pieces of shit

Are you on drugs or really trying to troll me hard. Neither kagok nor Warok are keyed. Ask any bda officer. I offered to buy a Mq- the tooth. Xerxes and I are confirmed broke we bought bedelia for 350k. I don't rmt and I don't cheat/box what ever you want to call it

[Shinko]

pwned

[Tiggles]

Are you on drugs or really trying to troll me hard. Neither kagok nor Warok are keyed. Ask any bda officer. I offered to buy a Mq- the tooth. Xerxes and I are confirmed broke we bought bedelia for 350k. I don't rmt and I don't cheat/box what ever you want to call it

I consider bedelia your main I think that's the confusion because your other characters are shitty.

You forgot the part where you farmed the PayPal gift option for 350k

[Alarti0001]

Actually i have way more respect for FE then i ever will for tmo... Expained to FE and TMO that i am guildless and dont plan on joining any guilds just helping lowbies lvl up and put on events for newbies... I asked if i could join them to look stanos head from hk for highelf mask how much theyd charge tmo says 145k and FE said free just keep in touch and we will msg when we get him next... I didnt really care to get mask but just goes to show u how much i honor FEs kindness

Seems made up :)

[Jarnauga]

Kagok is not a RMTer.

He also never received an epic from a GM.

[Kevynne]

taken got all the shit in air iirc
thought divinity got inny?
joint raid of tdt/bo/ag/and some lonewolves took down yael and wiped to gore )_)

[Servellious]

Just when you miss toggles and his funny posts he goes full retard on you and just face mashes his keyboard to see what comes out. I honestly feel bad for you bro if the RL weight issues and amelinda stuff is true all I can say is lose some weight get healthy and you will be a much happier person.

[eadric]

I'm just sick of everyone complaining. All I ever got upset about was fte snipes and training other guilds. If we remove those 2 things along with poop socking the raid scene will be 100x better but thats just how I feel and everyone feels different some people want loot handed to them which to me makes it feel like ez server and I prolly wouldn't even want to play at that point. I like sports I like competing just leveling the playing ground and having some standard rules is the hard part I guess

You sound exactly like a TMO member now. Ofc if FE fails you can always find like minded players in TMO who will welcome you. Welcoem to IB 2.0.

[chief]

my rl is better than your rl

[radditsu]

Whatever the reason for leaving them up, we'll take it. TMO hasn't been the ones fucking up our weekly sky raids on Fridays either - that would be FE.

I'm not buying the holy crusade propaganda anymore, Tanrin. Your leaders only joined BDA because there was no longer an IB, anti-TMO guild for them to join. When they couldn't turn BDA into the next IB, they left to form their own guild. FE is the next IB, and if they defeat TMO and starve them off the server, that will in turn spawn the next TMO. The cycle isn't going to end, FE is just a spoke on the wheel.

You are aware I was an officer of FE until i took my break right? I think I understand what it was about more than you. I was in both guilds, BDA has a warm inviting culture, and you have a decent raid leader, but you have jack and shit when it came to listening to anybody else but your circle jerk of friends who started "back in the day". When you guys came swarming back for those two weeks when TMO was suspended, that's what caused the split to go over the edge for a great many people.

I understand that you guys maybe deserved it for your service, but most of the people who merged did not know you from holes in the wall. (Note: i was in bda before the merge). That caused bad blood that was combined with the fact that some of us wanted to FIGHT them, instead of trying to snipe a late in window trak.

Look what they have done! 6 months-ish from scratch and they are counter-punching as hard as they can. I'm proud of their dedication. They deserve to slay dragons. 6 months ago on a repop TMO would have got every single target besides....like Fay or something.

To alarti: I honestly do believe that if two or three people in "Leadership" positions were to go, your guild would be pretty awesome. I have no qualms with most of TMO, including you believe it or not! I believe this because I have seen the same thing happen on live servers. I do think that if FE and TMO talked stuff out with reason, there wouldn't be any bad blood between racing guilds. I have even abandoned the idea of a "rotation" as it were. Racing is fun, training in VP for hours is not exactly a great time. I do trust Sloan and Shinko and everybody behind FE on this. So yes, i believe what i'm saying.

[Servellious]

You sound exactly like a TMO member now. Ofc if FE fails you can always find like minded players in TMO who will welcome you. Welcoem to IB 2.0.

I would never join Tmo. In fact there will prolly not be much reason to play if they were not around

[Kevynne]

TMO is way nicer than FE lol.
FE= mostly douches who forum troll and hate the casual guilds
TMO= some douches who forum troll, but kinda yknow will give some targets to other guilds if they just ask.

[eadric]

I have no respect for people who worship at the altar of "competition" in a non-pvp MMO. It's flat out ridiculous. I love competition too, but I don't log into a nostalgia server for a 14 year old PVE MMO to get it.

[Tiggles]

I would never be able to join TMO. In fact there will prolly have to resell bedelia for a loss and go play wow emu

TMO is way nicer than FE lol.
FE= mostly douches who forum troll and hate the casual guilds
TMO= some douches who forum troll, but kinda yknow will give some targets to other guilds if they just ask.

don't forget dirty group chat

[Tiggles]

I have no respect for people who worship at the altar of "competition" in a non-pvp MMO. It's flat out ridiculous. I love competition too, but I don't log into a nostalgia server for a 14 year old PVE MMO to get it.

I for one dislike competition my plan was to gear up a couple of alts in VP and then fade away from the server due to boredom along with the rest of TMO. Allowing some other guild to take our place.

Unfortunatly FE had to come and rile people back up.

[Servellious]

Why if something fun for some but not yourself do terrible racing and winning is awesome. Losing makes you think and plan to be better next time it promotes teamwork and makes your guild stronger. It's the sniping/training and poop socking that sucks but we just see different on things. But I mean I can't make you respect what is fun for me in a video game

[eadric]

Why if something fun for some but not yourself do terrible racing and winning is awesome.

:confused:

Honestly I never had anything but positive interactions with you while we were in BDA together, so I'll stop giving you a hard time here. We obviously disagree on what EQ is all about, end of story.

[Doors]

I have no respect for people who worship at the altar of "competition" in a non-pvp MMO. It's flat out ridiculous. I love competition too, but I don't log into a nostalgia server for a 14 year old PVE MMO to get it.

This. It's a fucking PVE server.

[Tiggles]

:confused:

Honestly I never had anything but positive interactions with you while we were in BDA together, so I'll stop giving you a hard time here. We obviously disagree on what EQ is all about, end of story.

Serious question.


If TMO provided you a short list (under five names) of people in your guild that if removed would secure your guild in an agreement with TMO allowing you assisted/unassisted kills and loot on most raid targets outside of VP.

Would it be discussed with the guild as a whole and not just the officers?

[quido]

This. It's a fucking PVE server.

you can kill all this and more on ez server or whatever

[eadric]

Serious question.


If TMO provided you a short list (under five names) of people in your guild that if removed would secure your guild in an agreement with TMO allowing you assisted/unassisted kills and loot on most raid targets outside of VP.

Would it be discussed with the guild as a whole and not just the officers?

I'm not an officer, but I feel comfortable in responding "no."

[rsloans84]

Seems made up :)

Sry to bust your bubble but this is 100% true... Also have alot of respect for Divinity and Bda but for other reason.

I have no respect for Tmo what so ever well maybe a tad for laughs/trolls

[Tiggles]

I'm not an officer, but I feel comfortable in responding "no."

Just saying if BDA revolted against Chestie and his lap dogs we would shower your guild in trak BPs vs loot and eventually VP gear.


If Chestie truly cared for his guild and not just for his second set of brass knuckles he would deguild himself anyways

[Servellious]

:confused:

Honestly I never had anything but positive interactions with you while we were in BDA together, so I'll stop giving you a hard time here. We obviously disagree on what EQ is all about, end of story.

Same here it's just frustrating chilling in vent with shinko and talking about how we can make things better on the server once TMO is gone and I come here and read about my guild getting bashed about the ones I want to help most makes me feel like a jackass. Maybe we are both frustrated.

[Tiggles]

Sry to bust your bubble but this is 100% true... Also have alot of respect for Divinity and Bda but for other reason.

I have no respect for Tmo what so ever well maybe a tad for laughs/trolls

Problem is...for you is that you are a guildless no name scrub you said it yourself. you are practically the bottom of the barrel in terms of players on this server.

So when you come into our threads and talk about respect, who cares? I don't care what an Orc pawn in gfay thinks of TMO because no matter how hard he HATES us he is still just an Orc pawn.

So enjoy farming hill giants for days on end just to buy something from us our 3rd alts don't need anymore because until you stop being that Orc pawn nothing is going to change.

[quido]

Kagok, I suspect you're not stable enough to play on p99 or use the internet. Maybe you should stick to board games.

[Tiggles]

Kagok, I suspect you're not stable enough to play on p99 or use the internet. Maybe you should stick to board games.

I have board game night every Monday at my shop from 6 to 12 it's mostly free play but a lot of ascension pandemic and legendary is played.

[Splorf22]

I just don't think EQ mechanics support two raids in the same zone going for the same mob very well (unless PVP is enabled).

Fear/Hate are always going to be trainwrecks when the mobs have huge aggro radii that ignore walls, and Fear even has DT cycles which hit both guilds.

VP and its intentional trains would simply be impossible if invis pulling worked correctly (i.e. not at all).

And maybe even Fountree is right and the biggest issue is the slow pace of server releases. At prime time last night we had probably 300 people attacking raid targets (75 TMO / 75 FE / 40 Taken / 30 BDA / 30 Divinity / 25 FC / 25 Rapture / 10 A-Team). Literally every zone was full. Its just far, far too many people for the amount of endgame content.

I feel like this is kind of disorganized.

[hatelore]

Just saying if BDA revolted against Chestie and his lap dogs we would shower your guild in trak BPs vs loot and eventually VP gear.


If Chestie truly cared for his guild and not just for his second set of brass knuckles he would deguild himself anyways

I know your posts are 90% "I'm trying to fuck with your head or make you laugh" and 10% serious, and I won't lie they are usually pretty funny but...

What's your obsession with hating on chest? He's a pretty damn good guy. Is it because all TMO did was try to shit on bda so your out for him for spite? For trying to fight back? If so, go on with your bad self I guess..

[Servellious]

Kagok, I suspect you're not stable enough to play on p99 or use the internet. Maybe you should stick to board games.

Nah I'm just an emotional person can't help it. Im plenty stable though

[Cars]

I feel like this is kind of disorganized.

Thousands of people are trapped inside one man's hobby. Everyone's expectations are a little high

[quido]

Do you enjoy listening to emotional music?

Do you have to fight back tears when Hoobastank - The Reason comes on the radio?

[Tiggles]

I know your posts are 90% "I'm trying to fuck with your head or make you laugh" and 10% serious, and I won't lie they are usually pretty funny but...

What's your obsession with hating on chest? He's a pretty damn good guy. Is it because all TMO did was try to shit on bda so your out for him for spite? For trying to fight back? If so, go on with your bad self I guess..

On no Chestie and I go back to SZ but I'm not against arsenal per se I'm more FOR BDA. Lots of TMO won't agree to any type of charity aid or what ever towards BDA due to Chestie and a couple others.


If they did the right thing and left BDA would be the new number 2 guild on the server with in 60 days.

Once that is secured we could cut down on bat phones and poopsocks.

TMO gets dibs on the rarer items at first for members and BDA gets the rest. Once TMOnhas everything they need BDA gets it all and trickles down to the guild be
Ow BDA.

[TotallyLegit]

What's your obsession with hating on chest? He's a pretty damn good guy. Is it because all TMO did was try to shit on bda so your out for him for spite? For trying to fight back? If so, go on with your bad self I guess..

This is laughable. Chest has such blind hate for TMO, he doesn't even give credit to GM reports of who is and is not banned.

[Lron]

Do you enjoy listening to emotional music?

Do you have to fight back tears when Hoobastank - The Reason comes on the radio?

LMAO

[hatelore]

Lol your so full of shit Tiggles I smell you all the way in Texas hahaha.

[arsenalpow]

Just saying if BDA revolted against Chestie and his lap dogs we would shower your guild in trak BPs vs loot and eventually VP gear.


If Chestie truly cared for his guild and not just for his second set of brass knuckles he would deguild himself anyways

I know TMO gets off from "competition" and getting dem pixels but BDA gets off by progressing as a tight knit group. Most TMO members don't even like their own guildmates but you gotta get dem pixels, that's why you're mercenaries and we aren't.

[Cars]

I know TMO gets off from "competition" and getting dem pixels but BDA gets off by progressing as a tight knit group. Most TMO members don't even like their own guildmates but you gotta get dem pixels, that's why you're mercenaries and we aren't.

This is wrong, TMO has a great atmosphere when your in it.

[Cars]

You're*

[eadric]

Tiggles so funny.

[Tiggles]

Lol your so full of shit Tiggles I smell you all the way in Texas hahaha.

I mean what I say with 100% seriousness.


Kick Chestie and a couple others and you can raid with TMO and scoop up 90% of the loot.


Example I think we only need dragon hero bracers from world dragons.

We need nothing but donals from trak.

Brass knuckles from sky.

AoN from CT BCG from Draco

And maybe the occasional epic piece here or there for alts/new members.

If you engage trak TMO helps you TMO engages trak you help us. Talendor spawns late at night and your low on members you BP us we help you you divy up any non earmarked loot as you see fit.

Eventually we get you into VP and you get free reign on 80% of the loot there.


It's all about humility bro you can try and fight against us and burn yourselves out and mass recruit. Or you can cut a mutalty beneficial deal that helps both TMO and BDA out.

[eadric]

Eccezan offered us this deal without the caveat of removing Chest and "others". I think you recall the response.

[hatelore]

This is laughable. Chest has such blind hate for TMO, he doesn't even give credit to GM reports of who is and is not banned.

it may be laughable to you, and I won't lie I do troll at times. But good people usually treat people the way they want to be treated. Tmo has a lot of enemies for a reason.. The way they have treated others. Jus sayin. Do I hate tmo? No. But it took a long time to accept that the raid scene on this server is shit. I didn't really experience this kind of d-baggery in a raid scene on inny server from 1999 and on.

[Tiggles]

Eccezan offered us this deal without the caveat of removing Chest and "others". I think you recall the response.

Oh I know but your pride got in the way of it that's why the only pve your guilds is sky mobs on guild repops to gear up Chestie some more.


I'm also sure the average member of BDA didn't get a chance to weigh in on the matter and if you asked them if they wanted to slay dragons with out Chestie or get so bored they switch servers they may surprise you

[Lron]

I have a PHD in MMO server politics and to be honest, this is seems like a good deal for both guilds. What is it with the pride and ego of BDA officers that they wont even consider a raid alliance to help your members get the gear they desire? This sounds like bad leadership in BDA to me.

[Doors]

You mean TMO is willing to give us their scraps when FE is destroying them in current raid content? Sweet deal, pass.

[hatelore]

I have a PHD in MMO server politics and to be honest, this is seems like a good deal for both guilds. What is it with the pride and ego of BDA officers that they wont even consider a raid alliance to help your members get the gear they desire? This sounds like bad leadership in BDA to me.

no, what it sounds like is p1999 history 101. Tmo sees FE has turned up the heat on the raid scene. And TMO needs some more hard hittin Negros to compete lol.

[eadric]

I have a PHD in MMO server politics and to be honest, this is seems like a good deal for both guilds. What is it with the pride and ego of BDA officers that they wont even consider a raid alliance to help your members get the gear they desire? This sounds like bad leadership in BDA to me.

This is 100% a result of past conduct of TMO, and it isn't just the officers that would never ally with the current TMO leadership, it's the majority of the core members as well.

As for your blind hate of Chest, it's kind of misplaced. He's the kind of guy who makes a great friend, and a god awful enemy. He's a good raid leader and has earned all of the loot that he has 10x over.

[hatelore]

This is 100% a result of past conduct of TMO, and it isn't just the officers that would never ally with the current TMO leadership, it's the majority of the core members as well.

As for your blind hate of Chest, it's kind of misplaced. He's the kind of guy who makes a great friend, and a god awful enemy. He's a good raid leader and has earned all of the loot that he has 10x over.

^ 100% correct.

[Lron]

So what if they are currently being beat by FE? That is a good thing for BDA...it opens the door for a mutually beneficial deal with BDA and TMO. Why not work together? You guys in BDA are not playing this right....at all.

[quido]

Tiggles is just trolling and knows we want nothing to do with any sort of BDA alliance.

[Doors]

Because nobody in BDA gives a shit. BDA isn't playing a classic PVE EQ server for 'competition'. Current BDA members don't give two fucks about having the best loot and cock blocking the rest of the server from obtaining it. It's not that hard to understand.

[OforOppression]

dave wildner rmts yall

[radditsu]

You mean TMO is willing to give us their scraps when FE is destroying them in current raid content? Sweet deal, pass.

That's the thing. They will ply you with loot, but you have to get rid of your "leadership". Eventually they look at who is doing a good job and snipe those from the talent pool. Then they ply their little piggy mouths with the loot they got from the increased raiding population bump they get from the "alliance", and can outmanuver/zerg the other guilds. Then the guild you are in breaks up due to artificial fracturing by this "alliance". Your leadership has gone to an alternative raiding guild. 4-5 people hold on to your guild tag. The people who did not want to join tmo quit/sell their character(tmo buys them), or join some super casual guild. Fracturing what was once a force that could put a dent in their loot armor. All because nobody in the guild takes a long view on the situation and sees that it is bad for the server as a whole.

How many times has TMO done this? 3-4? I can't even remember the guild's names anymore. Enraptured? Didn't an incarnation of Taken do that? Whatever.

[eadric]

Tiggles is just trolling and knows we want nothing to do with any sort of BDA alliance.I saw Eccezan in our guild vent a few weeks ago, I know what was discussed. You guys were feeling pretty desperate. The competition is fierce, and you'll do anything to keep an edge on FE at this point.

Of course Tiggles is just trolling though, that kinda goes without saying.

[quido]

Eccezan acted on his own in a moment of supreme stupidity. If you're curious, why don't you ask him about the conversation we had when he told us about his parley after the fact? Everyone who was there basically told him that he should admit that it was the worst idea he's ever had.

[Hasbinbad]

Biggles (a contraction of Big Tiggles) be trollin BDA hard; sowing the seeds of dissent.

[Tiggles]

Tiggles is just trolling and knows we want nothing to do with any sort of BDA alliance.

I would strip ever droppable of all my characters and donate it to BDA if the revolted and removed there officer base and allowed us to rewrite their guild charter and select there officers.


it's win win for 95% of BDA

[Lron]

Troll or not, a good idea is a good idea. I have a very trusted name and reputation and can be the intermediary for the two guilds. If both guilds want to donate a couple hundred bucks to my paypal, i can get this alliance deal done within the day. My diplomacy skills and ability to get deals done that seem impossible is well documented. What do you say?

[quido]

No thanks

don't need

[Lron]

Shut up jeremy.

[eadric]

Eccezan acted on his own in a moment of supreme stupidity. If you're curious, why don't you ask him about the conversation we had when he told us about his parley after the fact? Everyone who was there basically told him that he should admit that it was the worst idea he's ever had.

I'm not curious, I know what was up and I agree it was an extremely ridiculous proposal. My take on it is that Eccezan is not one of those people who thrives off of PVE competition, and that's why he did what he did. Others among your leadership do thrive off of that. I know you are all feeling pretty tough after sweeping VP yesterday, but don't think FE is giving up.

[Tiggles]

Shut up jeremy.

Watch your tongue Lron, this isn't EQMAC your gonna have to play the game of thrones a little better around these parts.


Offending a TMO heavy hitter like Jeremy is not a good start.

[Lyra]

My diplomacy skills

Shut up jeremy.

Skills

[hatelore]

What if we only have 159.63 ? Would you still do it ?

[Tiggles]

No thanks

don't need

Also you should make a picture of olidean's posts on every app thread ever and use that.


"No, Not needed"

[Lron]

Watch your tongue Lron, this isn't EQMAC your gonna have to play the game of thrones a little better around these parts.


Offending a TMO heavy hitter like Jeremy is not a good start.

Im just asserting my dominance. It makes both guilds see that i mean business and will fight for the plight of your needs. Im not offending anyone.

[Hasbinbad]

I would strip ever droppable of all my characters and donate it to BDA if the revolted and removed there officer base and allowed us to rewrite their guild charter and select there officers.


it's win win for 95% of BDA
every*, off*, them*, they*, their*, their*.

[Halfelfbard]

someday
http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Dragon_Hero_Bracer

[Alarti0001]

You are aware I was an officer of FE until i took my break right? I think I understand what it was about more than you. I was in both guilds, BDA has a warm inviting culture, and you have a decent raid leader, but you have jack and shit when it came to listening to anybody else but your circle jerk of friends who started "back in the day". When you guys came swarming back for those two weeks when TMO was suspended, that's what caused the split to go over the edge for a great many people.

I understand that you guys maybe deserved it for your service, but most of the people who merged did not know you from holes in the wall. (Note: i was in bda before the merge). That caused bad blood that was combined with the fact that some of us wanted to FIGHT them, instead of trying to snipe a late in window trak.

Look what they have done! 6 months-ish from scratch and they are counter-punching as hard as they can. I'm proud of their dedication. They deserve to slay dragons. 6 months ago on a repop TMO would have got every single target besides....like Fay or something.

To alarti: I honestly do believe that if two or three people in "Leadership" positions were to go, your guild would be pretty awesome. I have no qualms with most of TMO, including you believe it or not! I believe this because I have seen the same thing happen on live servers. I do think that if FE and TMO talked stuff out with reason, there wouldn't be any bad blood between racing guilds. I have even abandoned the idea of a "rotation" as it were. Racing is fun, training in VP for hours is not exactly a great time. I do trust Sloan and Shinko and everybody behind FE on this. So yes, i believe what i'm saying.



I like you, lets bro-hug.

Which "Leaders" do you want gone? I wonder if it the same one(s) I want gone.

I agree the vitriol and hyperbole is fun, but some ppl take this shit way too seriously. This is actualyl why BDA started on this server hating us. Druziil and other key members in that "core" group hated TMO from live still.

TMO actually consists of members of the 3-4 rival guilds from Fennin-ro + others.

[Lron]

What if we only have 159.63 ? Would you still do it ?

well if TMO is offering 200 and you guys are offering 159.63....guess who is going to get the best deal?

[Tiggles]

every*, off*, them*, they*, their*, their*.

On an iPad in the car (I live in my car) now so my already normal grammar is extra bad today.

[Hasbinbad]

TMO actually consists of members of the 3-4 rival guilds from Fennin-ro + others.
Fennin Ro is the server that absorbed Torvonnilous right? Do you guys have any < Blades of Wrath > or < Gift of Thought > guys?

[Hasbinbad]

On an iPad in the car (I live in my car) now so my already normal grammar is extra bad today.
U kno i lurve u anyway Biggles.

[hatelore]

well if TMO is offering 200 and you guys are offering 159.63....guess who is going to get the best deal?

ya, just figured I'd try to haggle, my dad told me never to accept the first offer. And to be honest with you I don't even have 159.63. I had to buy a bag of smoke (-20) and a bj (-10) on the way home plus I'm bad at math so it's really only 123.57. But I'm good for it I swear.

[Hasbinbad]

That dude Skankie was in BoW apparently, tho not back when I played, which leads me to believe they continued being a dominant guild for some time after luclin.

[Tiggles]

For a moment I forgot I didn't make this thread.


I should of made this thread.

FE got FTE on the thread.

[Servellious]

Do you enjoy listening to emotional music?

Do you have to fight back tears when Hoobastank - The Reason comes on the radio?

Yes to first no on hoobastank music can stir some nice emotions

[OforOppression]

who the fuck listens to hoobastank this isnt 2003

[Tippett]

digges has a point

[Servellious]

who the fuck listens to hoobastank this isnt 2003

It was a fail troll by Jeremy. He is pretty hit or miss

[Alarti0001]

Fennin Ro is the server that absorbed Torvonnilous right? Do you guys have any < Blades of Wrath > or < Gift of Thought > guys?

Assuming so... TMO was pretty much gone by the time Torvo merged. TMO still existed as I remember but it was a shadow of itself.

[odiecat99]

love you anyways

[Alarti0001]

That's the thing. They will ply you with loot, but you have to get rid of your "leadership". Eventually they look at who is doing a good job and snipe those from the talent pool. Then they ply their little piggy mouths with the loot they got from the increased raiding population bump they get from the "alliance", and can outmanuver/zerg the other guilds. Then the guild you are in breaks up due to artificial fracturing by this "alliance". Your leadership has gone to an alternative raiding guild. 4-5 people hold on to your guild tag. The people who did not want to join tmo quit/sell their character(tmo buys them), or join some super casual guild. Fracturing what was once a force that could put a dent in their loot armor. All because nobody in the guild takes a long view on the situation and sees that it is bad for the server as a whole.

How many times has TMO done this? 3-4? I can't even remember the guild's names anymore. Enraptured? Didn't an incarnation of Taken do that? Whatever.

There I go liking one of your posts, and then you post this garbage.

This from a guild that is mass recruiting from all guilds lower than them, and one who started as a conglomeration of merged guilds..... WTF are you talking about?

[Hasbinbad]

Assuming so... TMO was pretty much gone by the time Torvo merged. TMO still existed as I remember but it was a shadow of itself.
Well tell them < Fist of Iron > says hi. :P

[Zeelot]

Some key players like Rarartiz and myself stopped playing eqlive after the server merges. The expansions after omens of war sucked so most burned out at that point. TMO had no more raid leaders after that and just became casual.

That sig is awesome Hasbinbad. lol

[Hasbinbad]

Some key players like Rarartiz and myself stopped playing eqlive after the server merges. The expansions after omens of war sucked so most burned out at that point. TMO had no more raid leaders after that and just became casual.
Aha. Well too bad. There were some great players in that guild that helped me understand the game better.
That sig is awesome Hasbinbad. lol
Tee hee. I was wondering when you'd notice! XD

[Hasbinbad]

Also, did anyone notice the irony of the juxtaposition of my surname with the probable ethnicity/culture of that kid?

Irony. It's what I do.

[Hailto]

TMO still existed as I remember but it was a shadow of itself.

Sorta like now on p99?

[Alarti0001]

Sorta like now on p99?

Well at least on live Velious didnt take 2 years to come out. No worries there will be a resurgence shortly.

[Tiggles]

Well at least on live Velious didnt take 2 years to come out. No worries there will be a resurgence shortly.

They didn't attempt a single VP dragon this week, actually they only went after Trakanon then straight to the forums to complain about DKP.

We don't need a resurgence loot greed will kill them off soon.

[Multipass]

They didn't attempt a single VP dragon this week, actually they only went after Trakanon then straight to the forums to complain about DKP.

We don't need a resurgence loot greed will kill them off soon.

This isn't true. We attempted Nexona, and once we practice some more, will be able to get her down. TMO couldn't do anything about it.

[maverixdamighty]

They didn't attempt a single VP dragon this week, actually they only went after Trakanon then straight to the forums to complain about DKP.

We don't need a resurgence loot greed will kill them off soon.

He be TROLLIN

[Servellious]

Lmao at tiggles bragging about reading our forums. We attempted and wiped and learned and will be back

[Tiggles]

Lmao at tiggles bragging about reading our forums. We attempted and wiped and learned and will be back

you attempted shit you had 10 people in the zone max all trainers.

you watched as we slayed dragons right infront of your raid for 3 hours

[Tiggles]

This isn't true. We attempted Nexona, and once we practice some more, will be able to get her down. TMO couldn't do anything about it.

lets see you did 4% on your first attempt

so if you attempt her 25 more times unmolested you got it.

[Multipass]

They didn't attempt a single VP dragon this week, actually they only went after Trakanon then straight to the forums to complain about DKP.

We don't need a resurgence loot greed will kill them off soon.

Some of our members put in more effort and deserve more loot because of that. Yesterday was pretty exciting day and we learned a lot. Why don't you stick to reading your own forums, only an insecure person would resort to spying.

[Clark]

too bad being leet ingame doesn't change the fact that you're a total nutsack failure in real life.

LOL

[maverixdamighty]

lets see you did 4% on your first attempt

so if you attempt her 25 more times unmolested you got it.

i've been with tmo when you wiped to nexona 4 times in a row with 40+ people...granted no HT anymore, but still.

[Kevynne]

so to start the repop we have
FE: Trakanon, Sev, Talendor
TMO: VS, Inny, Gore

interesting that TMO goes for Inny and Gore, two mobs which they don't actively track for, and one which they have publicly left up 'for the good of the server' in the past. gotta make sure you get that classic era content before its too late.

then fe/tmo met in Fear and had fun with zone desyncs and other nonsense.

then tmo throws its 60+ raid force at VP and comes out on top.


lets not forget grats taken on dojo/ooa, divinity on hand, bda on fay?, and someone got naggy/vox i think. i liked the part where people forgot about Yael down in the hole :P

Blackout got Yael and got trained by fe at sev attemtpt then wiped to gore. 16 man raid force and growing though (: tmo Also gave us fte on gore sev and tal

[Clark]

you attempted shit you had 10 people in the zone max all trainers.

you watched as we slayed dragons right infront of your raid for 3 hours

You talk as if we didn't get Trak, Sev, and Talendor before we entered VP. Large portion of our guild isn't keyed like yours, enjoy your head start while you can.

[Clark]

Non VP keyed FE got Yael, was my idea.

[Multipass]

Blackout got Yael and got trained by fe at sev attemtpt then wiped to gore. 16 man raid force and growing though (: tmo Also gave us fte on gore sev and tal

Blackout doesn't deserve a dragon like Sev yet. After all of the shit that TMO has given us, we are giving it back to them and all they can do now is cry like whiney faggots on the forums. The only reason TMO gave you fte on those dragons was because they know you are a bunch of noobs and are looking to take your members.

[Tiggles]

You talk as if we didn't get Trak, Sev, and Talendor before we entered VP. Large portion of our guild isn't keyed like yours, enjoy your head start while you can.

so the list on your forums showing almost 50 keys is wrong?

The fact is 90% of your guild is content with slaying trak half the time, they don't want to go into VP and get trained for hours.

thats why you spent hours and HOURS camping people inside and around VP only to not call a raid and just train us while we got items.

most of the bads are happy they have a chance on a Trak BP or Epic Quest and have no interest in VP at all.


Unfortunately, The EX IB and try hard leadership already has all that loot and just wants to try and be number 1 again so they want to push them into VP.

[maverixdamighty]

so the list on your forums showing almost 50 keys is wrong?

The fact is 90% of your guild is content with slaying trak half the time, they don't want to go into VP and get trained for hours.

thats why you spent hours and HOURS camping people inside and around VP only to not call a raid and just train us while we got items.

most of the bads are happy they have a chance on a Trak BP or Epic Quest and have no interest in VP at all.


Unfortunately, The EX IB and try hard leadership already has all that loot and just wants to try and be number 1 again so they want to push them into VP.

we got our #1 priority, you got yours. congrats.

[BattleToad]

I LoL'd.

[Multipass]

so the list on your forums showing almost 50 keys is wrong?

The fact is 90% of your guild is content with slaying trak half the time, they don't want to go into VP and get trained for hours.

thats why you spent hours and HOURS camping people inside and around VP only to not call a raid and just train us while we got items.

most of the bads are happy they have a chance on a Trak BP or Epic Quest and have no interest in VP at all.


Unfortunately, The EX IB and try hard leadership already has all that loot and just wants to try and be number 1 again so they want to push them into VP.

Thats easy to say coming from a guild thats been killing Veeshan's Peak for the last year uncontested. Progress inside of VP for us has been slow, but we are learning you fat fucking asshole.

[Hailto]

Blackout got Yael and got trained by fe at sev attemtpt then wiped to gore. 16 man raid force and growing though (: tmo Also gave us fte on gore sev and tal

Pretty easy to give FTE to another guild when you aren't even there attempting the mobs. Also i didn't see any blackout at Sev or Tal.

[Tiggles]

Thats easy to say coming from a guild thats been killing Veeshan's Peak for the last year uncontested. Progress inside of VP for us has been slow, but we are learning you fat fucking asshole.

47shadesofgay3.0?

I don't responds to anontrolls