When you request a rez from me...

[astarothel]

Please disclose the following information from the get go:
*The zone it is in.
*The number of corpses to be rezzed (Do not just ask 'Willing to do some rezzes?")
*If not near the zone I am currently in, if a port is provided.
*If it is in an area like Grobb or Ogguk where I potentially require an invis/camo to get in.
*Any associated renumeration or payment, value, donation, etc.
*Any extenuating circumstances why you would like a rez (i.e.: our groupmate who died was dense and forgot to get a bind so now he is on the other continent)

Please do the following:
*Take anon/role off. I am tired of rezzing those who would have made back their exp in less time it takes a reztimer to wear off or me to recover my mana. I am far more inclined to rez you when I know what level you are and what guild you are in.
*Drag any of the aforementioned corpses to an accessible location ahead of my arrival if possible. If I am camping a mob in that same zone, this means bring it to a convenient place near my camp without training me (I do not want to play hide and seek with your corpse).
*Don't accidentally find more corpses you "forgot" about after I arrive. (Happens much more than you would think...)

Please consider the following:
*You are asking (or paying) for my time. The convenience of your request to me will probably have a direct correlation to my response. Please don't be a dick if I say no. Subsequent begging and whining does not increase your odds of it happening any. My playtime is my own, I am not responsible for fixing your mistakes and exp deaths.
*At full mana I have slightly more than enough for 3 90% rezzes. It takes me 14 minutes sitting and with call of bones to get that back.
*If I have my /anon or /role tag on there is the possibility I am hiding from rez requests.
*If you do not receive a response at all when you ask, don't ask again right away. I might have something else to do at that moment that requires my attention and I consider more valuable than a donation or plat. I might be AFK, fighting a mob, engaging in a business transaction or rezzing other people. I generally try and get back to everyone that sends me a tell in game relatively quickly.
Then again I could just be ignoring your request for 11 rezzes for your level 50 Necro in Lower Guk deadside for 25pp and a Fine Steel Dagger(No I am not kidding, I have had that one before).

This may seem like nothing but bitching and whining (which is why I put it in RnF to start with), but every day I get some absolutely ludicrous requests from players that think they are somehow entitled to be immediately rezzed, and that they are doing me some earth-shattering favour by letting me buy a port with my own money and rez them one and a half continents away for 15p -- You're not, drown in a bucket of used douche.

Following these guidelines will make it all the more likely I respond decisively and expediently to any rez requests you have, and will probably work on some of Project1999's other Clerics too.

[Ropethunder]

What do you consider to be the minimum value of a rez, what would you consider is a "good" value, and what would you consider to be a "pleasant surprise" in the trade window.

Just curious.

[Walabaego]

Curious about good price too, Ive been giving 50pp per corpse and it seems to be fine though :)

[Abacabb]

http://memegenerator.net/Laughing-Jesus/ImageMacro/1362394/Laughing-Jesus-HA-HA-I-can-rez-myself.jpg

[Brut]

I just lets my corpses rot since the clerics get so easily ticked off if asked. ><

Which is why lvl49 is awfully nigh.

[Aadill]

http://memegenerator.net/Laughing-Jesus/ImageMacro/1362394/Laughing-Jesus-HA-HA-I-can-rez-myself.jpg

ahahaha you're going to hell abacab

[nicemace]

if im in a out of the way spot, i just say 'can i get x number of rezes in y location for 500pp'

rest i leave up to the cleric. if he wants to hoof it or port whatever he can deal with it, 500pp is plenty for the assumed time it would take him to get to my area.

[Kraftwerk]

When I was between lvls 30 and 50 I would use the following criteria for Rez paying if anyone was curious on what got me rezzes swiftly:

Need one but willing to wait: 100-125p
Need one badly in next ~20 min: 200p
Need you to drop what you're doing and come rez my 1-3 corpses: 500p

Yes I paid ~500p for rezzes on three occasions, call me crazy but dieing in lvl 40, 45 made me cry.

[Uaellaen]

Kraftwerks prices are nice, the lower plat donations like 10 ~30pp i usualy dont even accept and rather give it for free ...

[Uaellaen]

but yeah, what astar said, be nice to the clerics and the clerics be nice to you ;)

[Madradh]

Nice post! 10/10

Even Abacab gets kudos for making me lol.

[astarothel]

What do you consider to be the minimum value of a rez, what would you consider is a "good" value, and what would you consider to be a "pleasant surprise" in the trade window.

Just curious.

As a point of reference, it takes as much time/mana for me to kill a giant as it does for me to rez a person. An average giant has a plat value of 20-25pp (provided it is not a sand giant that drops a sand of ro that skews things closer to 150p per kill). From a purely fiscal standpoint this would be a nice minimum per corpse I am to rez. Again it comes down to convenience. The closest port to HK still has me spending 12+ minutes to get there. I could run to WC and bag a giant and his respawn faster, so offering 50p for one body in highhold probably won't get me out there. If this is the case I will probably just respond with whether or not I intend to swing by there or not some time that day for reasons of my own. I mean there's other ways I guess it could be measured and valued, by how much plat the individual being rezzed would make in the time you earn a good chunk of that exp back for example, but since that is relative by level, fluctuates greatly based on what you're exp or make cash on, and omits the consideration of those people levelling on twinked alts, I would rather not try and quantify it.

If the amount of plat you need to offer me for a rez is so significant to you, I would rather you just straight up asked for a pity rez and kept the money to buy your spells or put it towards a new piece of gear you need. I would rather people say "this is all I can spare right now" than "this is all I have" -- it makes me feel like an extortionist rather than providing a service. I hope by now most of the server knows me to be neither miserly, nor unreasonable. I get not being able to donate much, and that for a lot of new players on p1999 they might not have a lot of cash to throw around. Asking for pity rezzes is completely legit, and depending on what I have on my plate I might even get around to them. With this in mind, please don't abuse my generosity. If I am in ECT and your group wipes at Orc1, and one or two people forgot to bind in freeport so are a continent away, then yea I will probably do them so you can get your group up and rolling again. This does not mean I will rez the rest of your group that was bound just outside FP gates. Also, just because I rez you once or twice doesn't mean I will necessarily rez you again in a different time or situation. I almost certainly don't want to rez the 42 corpses of your group at Oasis docks.

The more convenient a situation is, the more the line shifts from unnoticed disdain when I click the trade window to "pleasant surprise". If I am doing something like camping something like scryer in uguk so I can get all my alt casters bracelets of woven grass, bring it on down and I will probably do it. 16.5 minutes gives me an awful lot of time, just know that when my mob is due I will be wanting to keep sufficient mana for it. In situations like those pretty much anything is a pleasant surprise because I wouldn't be doing anything else of note. As many have found in the last week while I have been doing guk till my eyes bleed to buy a couple higher value items I require, if I am there and not running a timer on multiple rares because the zone is relatively empty, I usually can and will squeeze you in.

[astarothel]

on a slightly different but similar topic, no I will not give your level 4 pet in East Commons Symbol of Naltron.

[Yinaltin]

haha i really like the necromancer 11 corpses fs dagger part :)

[Deeps]

Omfg clerics, enough with the fn preachin, stfu, and rez, therefore making your asses useful, then ill call u when i need a ch. ok ba bye. Gawd, imagine if i tried to charge 500 plat for every ice comet I cast. And then tried to explain to the group or raid that they are paying for my time, I'd be laughed out of the room.

[astarothel]

Gawd, imagine if i tried to charge 500 plat for every ice comet I cast. And then tried to explain to the group or raid that they are paying for my time, I'd be laughed out of the room.

Unless it was in part my fault you died and need a rez, I fail to see how this is relevant. You will notice the title of the thread just coincidentally indicates the situation. Raids and grouping is completely different.

http://gamerlimit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/johnny-cash-finger-456.jpg

[Deeps]

jk

[Deeps]

i love johnny cash

[astarothel]

That pic is so fucking amazing.

[Lazortag]

Please disclose the following information from the get go:
*The zone it is in.
*The number of corpses to be rezzed (Do not just ask 'Willing to do some rezzes?")
*If not near the zone I am currently in, if a port is provided.
*If it is in an area like Grobb or Ogguk where I potentially require an invis/camo to get in.
*Any associated renumeration or payment, value, donation, etc.
*Any extenuating circumstances why you would like a rez (i.e.: our groupmate who died was dense and forgot to get a bind so now he is on the other continent)

Please do the following:
*Take anon/role off. I am tired of rezzing those who would have made back their exp in less time it takes a reztimer to wear off or me to recover my mana. I am far more inclined to rez you when I know what level you are and what guild you are in.
*Drag any of the aforementioned corpses to an accessible location ahead of my arrival if possible. If I am camping a mob in that same zone, this means bring it to a convenient place near my camp without training me (I do not want to play hide and seek with your corpse).
*Don't accidentally find more corpses you "forgot" about after I arrive. (Happens much more than you would think...)

Please consider the following:
*You are asking (or paying) for my time. The convenience of your request to me will probably have a direct correlation to my response. Please don't be a dick if I say no. Subsequent begging and whining does not increase your odds of it happening any. My playtime is my own, I am not responsible for fixing your mistakes and exp deaths.
*At full mana I have slightly more than enough for 3 90% rezzes. It takes me 14 minutes sitting and with call of bones to get that back.
*If I have my /anon or /role tag on there is the possibility I am hiding from rez requests.
*If you do not receive a response at all when you ask, don't ask again right away. I might have something else to do at that moment that requires my attention and I consider more valuable than a donation or plat. I might be AFK, fighting a mob, engaging in a business transaction or rezzing other people. I generally try and get back to everyone that sends me a tell in game relatively quickly.
Then again I could just be ignoring your request for 11 rezzes for your level 50 Necro in Lower Guk deadside for 25pp and a Fine Steel Dagger(No I am not kidding, I have had that one before).

This may seem like nothing but bitching and whining (which is why I put it in RnF to start with), but every day I get some absolutely ludicrous requests from players that think they are somehow entitled to be immediately rezzed, and that they are doing me some earth-shattering favour by letting me buy a port with my own money and rez them one and a half continents away for 15p -- You're not, drown in a bucket of used douche.

Following these guidelines will make it all the more likely I respond decisively and expediently to any rez requests you have, and will probably work on some of Project1999's other Clerics too.

I agree with 100% of everything in this post.

For a 90% rez I always pay at least 90 plat or so, and I try to ask people a maximum of 2 zones away.

[Teeroyoyort]

I agree with your post sir. And to be honest, every cleric I've run into has been extremely nice. My donations have been around 50pp a corpse. Some clerics actually refuse to take it. I'll /friend them! and sit back and chat with them for a bit.

[Abacabb]

One cleric tried to charge me 500pp for a rez in sol b once...

Cleric a few days later died in some bumfuck part of Hate...

I charged him 1000pp for a corpse drag

[Omnimorph]

One cleric tried to charge me 500pp for a rez in sol b once...

Cleric a few days later died in some bumfuck part of Hate...

I charged him 1000pp for a corpse drag

was this the same cleric or is this just a case of negative karma making the world a worse place? :(

[Falisaty]

on a slightly different but similar topic, no I will not give your level 4 pet in East Commons Symbol of Naltron.

but what if i have a peri to offer??!!

[astarothel]

but what if i have a peri to offer??!!

Different. :p

[Loke]

In the same kind of general thought as this post, ever since I started leveling up my wizard - I get so mad when I receive tells like..

"hey, can I get a port for a CR?"

Ok, first of all - I don't care WHY you need a port. The reason you need a port is going to have pretty much no influence on whether or not I will port you. The factors that influence whether or not I'm going to are whether or not I'm at my computer, whether or not I'm busy, how much you're paying, if I like you.. and a few others I'm sure I'm forgetting. The fact that you're on a CR doesn't really play into it. Stop trying to milk me for a sympathy port - because it's not happening.

Secondly - if you're sending me a tell (i.e. I'm not actively advertising that I'm porting... which I never do, so will never be the case) - let me know your terms for porting. Are you expecting it free or paying? If so, how much? Where do you need to go? Where are you currently? These are all things that I want to know.

If I'm just chilling in EC and actually at my computer, I've got no problem porting people generally... especially if they're throwing me some cash. I just think it's annoying/hilarious when I come back from being afk for a few hours in EC and see like 20 tells for ports, and like 1/2 of them are these sympathy card "I need a port for CR" bullshit. Even if I'm at my computer, I've just started ignoring tells like that.

[kariden]

In the same kind of general thought as this post, ever since I started leveling up my wizard - I get so mad when I receive tells like..

"hey, can I get a port for a CR?"

Ok, first of all - I don't care WHY you need a port. The reason you need a port is going to have pretty much no influence on whether or not I will port you. The factors that influence whether or not I'm going to are whether or not I'm at my computer, whether or not I'm busy, how much you're paying, if I like you.. and a few others I'm sure I'm forgetting. The fact that you're on a CR doesn't really play into it. Stop trying to milk me for a sympathy port - because it's not happening.

Secondly - if you're sending me a tell (i.e. I'm not actively advertising that I'm porting... which I never do, so will never be the case) - let me know your terms for porting. Are you expecting it free or paying? If so, how much? Where do you need to go? Where are you currently? These are all things that I want to know.

If I'm just chilling in EC and actually at my computer, I've got no problem porting people generally... especially if they're throwing me some cash. I just think it's annoying/hilarious when I come back from being afk for a few hours in EC and see like 20 tells for ports, and like 1/2 of them are these sympathy card "I need a port for CR" bullshit. Even if I'm at my computer, I've just started ignoring tells like that.

Agree here. I normally keep up /anon or /role on my porter because of the types of tells I get that come across as demanding. When I play my alts and wish for a rez or port I ask kindly and I state how much PP I have that I can pay as well as including the zone I need it in or to.

[Stepy]

Don't want to be asked for rezzes then don't be a cleric. =P

[sidgb]

Who was that masked cleric that rezzed me outside Guk yesterday!!

Hi-oh Astarothel away!!!!

You were gone by the time I zoned back in but thanks for the rez on my cleric. Was much appreciated.

[Stickyfingers]

I usually pay around 50 - 75pp per rez, and I port the Cleric to and from my destinations. I think this makes up for the extra 25 - 50pp port that is needed a lot of the time.

[Raren]

One cleric tried to charge me 500pp for a rez in sol b once...

Cleric a few days later died in some bumfuck part of Hate...

I charged him 1000pp for a corpse drag

i just cryed when i was reading this

[astarothel]

Who was that masked cleric that rezzed me outside Guk yesterday!!

Hi-oh Astarothel away!!!!

You were gone by the time I zoned back in but thanks for the rez on my cleric. Was much appreciated.

I'm like the motherfuckin batman with that shit yo.

[jilena]

I flat out HATE rezzing people. If I could delete the resurrection spell from my spellbook and actually have people believe that I did, I would. People requesting rezzes are so fucking annoying. It's like a nonstop guilt trip from the time I log into my cleric til the time I log out.

I can tolerate the legit rez requests (i.e. you are over level 35) to a degree so long as they aren't cocks about it. If you are level 13 unless you are bound in Toxx and died in EFP, I am probably not going to rez you. You're 20 and died 7 times at aviaks in SK? Level 19 in Unrest? I'll give you something better than a rez. Free advice: Stop sucking at everquest. Also, go fuck yourself.

I also completely agree with the anon/role thing. I am automatically assuming you are an asshole if you are asking me if I am free to res while you are anon. I have a 50 cleric and I am never anon. Unless you are in the middle of super secret guild ninja strike tactics (at which point you wouldn't be asking me for a rez) I see no reason for you to be anon. You are probably not going to get a rez.

The amount of money you offer to rez is typically not relevant. 500pp for a rez is probably excessive, but 500pp is not really a lot of money. If you are expecting me to be drooling at the mouth over 500pp you need to lay off the crack. If I tell you no, offering me a whopping 500pp is not going to change my mind. I just don't care.

[Toony]

You're 20 and died 7 times at aviaks in SK? Level 19 in Unrest? I'll give you something better than a rez. Free advice: Stop sucking at everquest. Also, go fuck yourself.


My favorite part :)

[Loke]

I foresee Zarina getting a lot of tells for ridiculous rezzes from lowbie characters in the future. Just a heads up, back when my wizard was like 17 he died in some where in OOT... I'm not really sure where since I was afk swimming, but I'll just consent you and let you figure that out. Thanks a bunch!

[Aarone]

I'm like the motherfuckin batman with that shit yo.

I'll ditto on the thanks for your kindness and response, Astarothel (and in a Rants and Flames thread, no less ;))

[Loke]

I personally think Asterothel is a jerk.

[Loke]

Astarothel too.

[astarothel]

I personally think Asterothel is a jerk.

Complete fucking asshole.

[Excision Rottun]

Excellent post Astar.

I approve of this thread!

http://www.mollena.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/internethighfive.jpg

[Jael]

Don't want to be asked for rezzes then don't be a cleric. =P

Go camp me gatorscale leggings, Sheeplover!
;)

-Nem

[Dersk]

You sell very gold much. To this you do advertise in place is wrong, but as from WOW you are dumb.

P.S., go hell to communist bastard.

[Extunarian]

I am also have the english to.

Seriously though that spam text reminded me of this:
http://www.reliableplant.com/View/7549/a-salute-to-technical-jargon

[Leokaiser]

I mostly agree with the OP's point; rezzing takes a fair bit of time, especially if you have to go out of your way to do it, and some compensation for that time should be offered. Considering the level you need to be to offer a 90% rez, 25pp is a rather negliable amount.

That said, however, some people seem to express a little too much annoyance by rez requests on these forums, to the point where I've never asked for a rez because I don't want to get a verbal slap in the face from someone who won't appreciate not only the perhaps-inadequate sum of money I can offer, but my gratitude too. You can't really put a price on being nice and helping someone (though clearly many people do), and if you help me, maybe I'll be in a position to help you one day?

Not everyone asking for a favour is ignorant that that's what they are doing, and it's sad that a lot of people seem to be tarred with the same brush (this isn't directed at Astarothel, btw). Most of the time I'll just shrug my shoulders and grind the exp back because I'd rather not have a negative social encounter with yet another MMO-douche.

Ports are a different matter though, and I really can't understand the annoyance port requests generate. I've ported dozens of people so far, and only a few of those haven't offered either a considerable sum of plat (at my level, at least) or kind words of appreciation.

Just today I was busy quadding when I got a request from someone to come pick them up from Unrest. This requred me to bind, port to BBM, run to them, port them, then gate - I was offered 5pp. My initial and obvious reaction was 'lol', but I done it anyway. This 10 minutes out of my life and playtime didn't make me any richer or progress my character, but it made someone else happy and have a more pleasant session instead of dying in Dagnor's or hoofing it across the face of Norrath, which in turn made me feel good about myself. If the guy had been an ungrateful douch, then yeah, I'd have cursed myself for wasting my own time, but occurances like these are far rarer than many people on this forum would suggest.

Being nice can be its own reward. Try it some time!

[Adso]

Ports are a different matter though, and I really can't understand the annoyance port requests generate. I've ported dozens of people so far, and only a few of those haven't offered either a considerable sum of plat (at my level, at least) or kind words of appreciation.

Being nice can be its own reward. Try it some time!

/friend Bartella

Port requests inc!