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[unsunghero]

I personally never had a problem with the idea of completely socialized healthcare, although I’ve always found the argument of “healthcare is a human right” kind of weird. Why is it a human right? A better argument would be the same as the argument made for giving healthcare to illegals: a cost containment model. Meaning, if people don’t have healthcare to be taking care of the small things, then they let the small things become big things and then reactionary healthcare costs are typically exponentially higher than maintenance costs

The problem with universal healthcare has always been how to fund it in the USA. I’ve seen some rosy projections offered but I’m still extremely skeptical

[starkind]

if you're not willing and able to shoot people in the street and create mass graves

maybe consider some kind of socialized medicine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[starkind]

medicaid and medicare suck lol

administrative costs are way too high in the USA

but there is a gang of 'untouchable' 'nobility' that own ur administrative costs (and lobbies) and have an army of chinese slaves they justify $800 for a syringe.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally never had a problem with the idea of completely socialized healthcare, although I’ve always found the argument of “healthcare is a human right” kind of weird. Why is it a human right? A better argument would be the same as the argument made for giving healthcare to illegals: a cost containment model. Meaning, if people don’t have healthcare to be taking care of the small things, then they let the small things become big things and then reactionary healthcare costs are typically exponentially higher than maintenance costs

The problem with universal healthcare has always been how to fund it in the USA. I’ve seen some rosy projections offered but I’m still extremely skeptical

American Social Media Victim.

Much like our politicians of the past, the more savvy Euro managed to skull-fuck you and you wish to do the same to others. Sad and not a troll. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Mblake1981]

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

American Social Media Victim.

Much like our politicians of the past, the more savvy Euro managed to skull-fuck you and you wish to do the same to others. Sad and not a troll. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The US has a pro-tax movement masquerading as a socialist movement. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

medicaid and medicare suck lol

administrative costs are way too high in the USA

but there is a gang of 'untouchable' 'nobility' that own ur administrative costs (and lobbies) and have an army of chinese slaves they justify $800 for a syringe.

From my experience in talking to the patients, none had anything negative to say about Medicaid. It covers literally everything from all forms of mental health treatment to cancer treatment with no co-pays

Medicare on the other hand doesn’t cover much mental health to my knowledge and for medical I’ve heard many more frustrations from patients. And Medicare for all, not Medicaid for all, is what Dems want...

There are some common problems reported by citizens of countries with completely socialized medicine, the most common I hear are long waits for some producers (talking months) and many expensive procedures such as transplants not covered

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

American Social Media Victim.

Much like our politicians of the past, the more savvy Euro managed to skull-fuck you and you wish to do the same to others. Sad and not a troll. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cost containment is the most effective argument that can be made for providing healthcare to those who lack it

Who lacks healthcare in the USA? Middle class people who either can’t afford, or are not offered due to hours worked or their employer being too small, health insurance. Poor people get comp’ed free health insurance, and elderly get (not free) health insurance. And rich people can afford nice private plans. So only some of the middle class are without health insurance

And illegals. And what do illegals do? They do nothing because they have no insurance, then when their medical problem is about to kill them, they go to an ER, which cannot refuse anyone, and then they don’t pay. And this practice has BANKRUPTED ER’s in areas with lots of illegals, such as in California

So I understand WHY the argument of providing healthcare to allow maintenance of health issues would reduce instances of using ER’s as doctors offices. Finding and deporting illegals would work better, however