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10-02-2021, 03:44 PM
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Even if they had enough food, which they didn't, capitalism provides far more abundance. I mean, the poorest people in our country are *overweight*. Even during the pandemic, there were fears of food shortages. Never happened. One or two places had temporary regional distribution issues for like a week, but the actual production of food never waned and nobody starved to death.
It's just not even remotely a valid comparison. Communism depends on human nature not being what it is. People with power will always, always go tyrant given the opportunity. The US system of checks and balances keeps human nature in check better than any other system yet devised. We are all proof of that, or we wouldn't have the luxury of arguing about this on an everquest forum. | ||
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10-02-2021, 03:51 PM
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But over time its like Chinese and Russian orders. The planters stop progressing when the progression no longer benefits them. This is why the south was less technologically advanced and lacked all the structural improvements, education institutions, and industrial capacity. Why the hell would you build a factory in the south when its a giant countryside with no infrastructure to support it? Why pay taxes so the north can develop more when your fine just how you are? The problem is capitalism wants the north developed...and the south...and the whole world. Capitalism starts getting annoyed with these planters sitting on their ass opposing canal construction, roads, and rail. We always need farmers -- but we don't need planters. The same way we didn't need aristocrats at the top, we didn't need planters (who were often considered a kind of aristocracy) in the end. In fact, we need farmers that were more efficient. See, the economics of slavery were such that only big plantations were beating out paid labor -- and that margin kept shrinking. The planters were like feudal lords, they had to make sure their small folk were healthy enough to produce. Capitalism doesn't give a fuck. They just need some guy that will do the job for today at the low wage capitalism gives them for their unskilled labor. If their mom is sick -- that's not your fucking problem. And people are taught not to blame you and that it is your problem and not theirs. So as frontier starts filling out and there are immigration waves (which capitalism ordered) -- cheap labor is getting easier and easier to find. Technology is also key, because industrial production kills off the old guild craft style system held over from feudalism. This also drives down the price of goods like clothing, food, and tools. It starts to become more practical for low paid workers to take care of their basics for less money than is tied up in upkeeping a whole population of enslaved people. Meanwhile, there were all kinds of ill effects capitalism doesn't like. Like suppressing markets for back people, preventing them from doing the best they could economically, and also turning high functioning educated white people into parasite gentry instead productive capitalists. Basically slavery outlived its use to capitalism. Capitalism giveth, and capitalism taketh away. | |||
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#5533
10-02-2021, 04:07 PM
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JD you get a job yet? Or still a student living with mom?
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#5534
10-02-2021, 04:27 PM
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Slavery is an important bit of history for understanding a divide with two types of capitalist elites that still exist in our society. Global elites and local elites.
Local elites are tied to a specific location in a way global elites are not. Generally conservatism is tied to local elites and liberalism is tied to global elites. There are big fish and small fish in both groups. But a lot of this angst that is culminating has to do with the fact that the locals are losing out overall. The local dominated American dream is something like starting a small successful-enough business that allows you some actual freedom defined in the positive sense. That lady that got shot at the capital incident -- she owned her own pool cleaning company. Capitalism in these peoples heads is their ally. But she misses that capitalism might not be that into her anymore. Capitalism just cares about maximizing that supply and demand -- and does not care that its destroying your community. In fact, it probably wants your community cleared out so it can make better use of the land at this point. You served your purpose like the planters did. Capitalism will work for you if you can do something for it. But you gotta stay on top of that or capitalism drops you like a business drops a bad employee -- in fact its exactly like that. The sense of precariousness is what has us all mind controlled. Most of us know how close we are to being broke as a joke again. Even guys running a tech company are constantly stressed about the algorithm exposing their flaws and potentially replacing them. Trump is representative of local elites that reject globalist culture and legal maneuvers that facilitate globalism. That's what "rightwing populism" is. A politics a local elite that feel (justly) oppressed by the global elite. | ||
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10-02-2021, 04:33 PM
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I prefer to work by contract because I hate getting up in the morning. And I also hate working nights.
The real interesting part is the crypto stuff I'm doing with Jay. You see, were doing no good to anyone wasting energy on a fundamentally worthless product, and you make about is much as actually working. But governments keep wanting to monitor and control transactions -- so capitalism will find a way. | ||
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