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Old 03-15-2021, 04:34 PM
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Lol, Monk is EASILY ahead of Mage, Wizard and Druid imho, although yes some amount of gear is needed. Quadding is cool i suppose but requires specific situations/zones. A monk can solo ANYWHERE that is not end game raiding content.
With combat bind exploit fixed? Are you talking about with using puppet strings or something?
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Old 03-15-2021, 04:49 PM
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HEY GUYS I HAEMVE A FUNGI AND CAN SOLI ON A MONK LOL S TIER
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Old 03-15-2021, 05:18 PM
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Raiding isn't all the weight, but I guess its some.




Anyways, I usually make 3 or 4 varities, but they aren't too different.


All rounder tier for most content -
1. Enchanter, Shaman, Bard, Monk
2. Necro, Mage
3. Cleric, Warrior, Wizard
4. Everybody else in whatever order

Raid tier
1. Cleric, Warrior, Enchanter, Shaman
2. Wizard, Bard
3. Everybody else in whatever order

Solo Tier
1. Enchanter, Shaman, Bard
2. Necro, Mage
3. Wizard, Druid
4. Everybody else in whatever order

PvP
1. Wizard, SK
2. Who the hell cares




Enchanter and Shaman are useful almost always in every aspect of the game and Druids and Paladins are useful for the least aspects.

From there you can tell when someone has bias on a class, like if someone is talking up Paladin over SK they are probably a raider specialist who doesn't see solo as a thing or even content that exists like the guy I quoted above where a SAC contender will look at necros a little harder then a raider, etc.

and then yeah, pvp is all about Wizards and SK's
You don't value rogues in your raids? Alright.
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Old 03-15-2021, 05:23 PM
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You don't value rogues in your raids? Alright.
I got lazy. They are with the warriors and clerics. Essentially raids are all about specialist classes.
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Old 03-15-2021, 06:31 PM
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For posterity's sake, I have to say something...

If you're trying to figure out which class to play and have stumbled upon this thread, do yourself a favor and hit the back button. This thread contains only uninformed opinions and shit posts.

But you're on the forums, so perhaps you already knew that ;p
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Old 03-15-2021, 06:37 PM
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That tier list is junk-
Wizards can be the best solo'ers in the game if the server was truly set to classic statistics. Even without it Wizards can quad 1st-60th level. I've never seen anything more powerful 1-25th level than a wizard with clarity an jboots. Hell, on live with clarity I could take entire derv camps 12th-14th level while a whole group was struggling to do the same. Only the bard could contest with their mass kite, but the efficiency and speed of wizard quads due to their superior DPS make them best solo'ers till at least 23rd-24th level. Then it picks back up at 29th when the get snare all the way to 60. They only start to have trouble around 45th-50th level when mob hps start doubling, tripling, quadrupling an their spells damage doesn't do the same. Quadding becomes a necessity then in select locations. PBAoE groups can also slam exp better than most anything but those are very few an far between, an wizards are the best dmg PBAoE.
I would say each class has their own situation that they excel at depending on your class an camps. For instance, on live only wizards could quad raptors, because the raptors are supposed to have 5k hps, not 3k hps. An only wizards have spells efficient enough to do 5k-6k damage quadding. I was wondering why all those druids were quadding raptors, now I know. Raptor quads should be the best exp in the game 50+, but on this BS server you get 1-2% instead of 6-8%.
Warrior is the greatest tank in the game, you know the OP doesn't know squat if he doesn't know that. Why do you think an SoD is the greatest weapon in the game? If you didn't have highest HP tank, the warrior, and a cleric with complete heal, nothing hard would ever die. How do you not rate Cleric an Warrior S? Rogues are great DPS. Bards are trash, they can solo OUTDOORS, group wise? Master of none.
Cleric is S
Warrior is S
Bard is D
Wizard C+ or B - on lower level they can be a beast, its higher level 45+ they start to stumble, till they get their epic and a mana robe. Raids they can own.
You can't just rate by ability to solo, group value trumps all. Most of the best content requires groups and raids. You just rated ability to solo.
Something else to mention, gear makes all the difference, in Classic lots of classes struggled. With Kunark, fungi tunics lets warriors solo a plenty for instance.
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For posterity's sake, I have to say something...

If you're trying to figure out which class to play and have stumbled upon this thread, do yourself a favor and hit the back button. This thread contains only uninformed opinions and shit posts.

But you're on the forums, so perhaps you already knew that ;p
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Old 03-15-2021, 07:35 PM
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I don't know if a wronger opinion has ever seen the internet
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:28 PM
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That tier list is junk-
Wizards can be the best solo'ers in the game if the server was truly set to classic statistics. Even without it Wizards can quad 1st-60th level. I've never seen anything more powerful 1-25th level than a wizard with clarity an jboots. Hell, on live with clarity I could take entire derv camps 12th-14th level while a whole group was struggling to do the same. Only the bard could contest with their mass kite, but the efficiency and speed of wizard quads due to their superior DPS make them best solo'ers till at least 23rd-24th level. Then it picks back up at 29th when the get snare all the way to 60. They only start to have trouble around 45th-50th level when mob hps start doubling, tripling, quadrupling an their spells damage doesn't do the same. Quadding becomes a necessity then in select locations. PBAoE groups can also slam exp better than most anything but those are very few an far between, an wizards are the best dmg PBAoE.
I would say each class has their own situation that they excel at depending on your class an camps. For instance, on live only wizards could quad raptors, because the raptors are supposed to have 5k hps, not 3k hps. An only wizards have spells efficient enough to do 5k-6k damage quadding. I was wondering why all those druids were quadding raptors, now I know. Raptor quads should be the best exp in the game 50+, but on this BS server you get 1-2% instead of 6-8%.
Warrior is the greatest tank in the game, you know the OP doesn't know squat if he doesn't know that. Why do you think an SoD is the greatest weapon in the game? If you didn't have highest HP tank, the warrior, and a cleric with complete heal, nothing hard would ever die. How do you not rate Cleric an Warrior S? Rogues are great DPS. Bards are trash, they can solo OUTDOORS, group wise? Master of none.
Cleric is S
Warrior is S
Bard is D
Wizard C+ or B - on lower level they can be a beast, its higher level 45+ they start to stumble, till they get their epic and a mana robe. Raids they can own.
You can't just rate by ability to solo, group value trumps all. Most of the best content requires groups and raids. You just rated ability to solo.
Something else to mention, gear makes all the difference, in Classic lots of classes struggled. With Kunark, fungi tunics lets warriors solo a plenty for instance.
I mean on blue I'm a bard and wizard main.. and I swarmed and quadded them. The bard never stops and kills more. You can go 1-50 in a day. The wizard def had some slowdown when the quad nukes got weak then picked back up at 51 but never close to the bard speed
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Old 03-15-2021, 10:38 PM
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HEY GUYS I HAEMVE A FUNGI AND CAN SOLI ON A MONK LOL S TIER
I was thinking the same thing but, eh. He's the only one ive ever heard in all of history who said monks solo better then mages. a 35 naked mage can happily melt down hill giants, i'd love to see a typical 35 monk kill some hill giants solo without the greatest gear in the game and maybe not even then could they do it ;D
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