Paladin: 95 CHA in seb as puller, no issue at 60

[Pint]

Pretty sure I alrdy told y'all cha was for enchanters

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Kobold_Jester%27s_Crown
https://wiki.project1999.com/Crude_Stein
https://wiki.project1999.com/Matchless_Dragonskin_Mask
https://wiki.project1999.com/Cat_Eye_Velium_Necklace
https://wiki.project1999.com/Seahorse_Spine_Bracelet
https://wiki.project1999.com/Froststone_Stein
https://wiki.project1999.com/Luminary_Two_Handed_Sword

That's +119 CHA from some very easily and cheaply acquired items, and doesn't even include rings or earrings, which could also add even more. There is zero universe in which STA or WIS are that trivial to raise and at such minimal expense.
As the OP's post illustrates, CHA is literally only good when you're using Lull in extremely risky circumstances, because on normal blue XP mobs 1) you will very rarely crit fail to begin with, and 2) when you do so, you can usually recover quite easily with your own toolkit and the presumed aid of your groupmates. Maxing CHA on a Paladin basically only makes sense if you're doing something unusual like leveling solo in particularly dangerous dungeons for the sheer thrill and challenge of it. But this is not how most people play the class, and at 60 a Paladin (who will presumably be running around doing group and raid content at that point) gains almost nothing from CHA.

And for the vanishingly small number of times you do need as much CHA as you can get for some absurdly dangerous pull? Carry a bag full of those items above, which by themselves will take even an ugly Dwarf to over 160 CHA.

Dwarves cap stamina pretty easily in velious.

This leaves cha(hardest stat to raise) or wis(diminishing returns 200+).

I’ll take better crit chances than maybe one extra hot in which case you’re probably already dead. But ymmv. Also gear swaps are hella annoying. The less the better. And you know you’re not gonna swap every time. And you’re gonna get crits. And you’re gonna take more hits/deaths.

Also not sure why this is a solo artist thing. So many low man uses for paci. It’s that fucking good.

[Toxigen]

theres a few bad paladins that didnt max cha at creation that are a little upset here

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dwarves cap stamina pretty easily in velious.

This leaves cha(hardest stat to raise) or wis(diminishing returns 200+).

I’ll take better crit chances than maybe one extra hot in which case you’re probably already dead. But ymmv. Also gear swaps are hella annoying. The less the better. And you know you’re not gonna swap every time. And you’re gonna get crits. And you’re gonna take more hits/deaths.

Also not sure why this is a solo artist thing. So many low man uses for paci. It’s that fucking good.

It's exceedingly rare to die from a crit fail unless you're doing some wacky and risky solo stuff. That's just a fact. You're a goddamned plate wearing tank who can root, heal yourself, Lay on Hands and cast DA for God's sake. How the in hell are you guys dying from crit fails? Further, in most cases you'll only need to cast lull/paci when first breaking a camp before the spawns are staggered and can be easily single pulled. It's not like you're casting it constantly. Hell, in most cases you probably won't even be pulling to begin with, and this entire argument is completely academic on a server where you can't throw a rock without hitting a Monk or an Enchanter. STA or WIS are both much better investments than CHA.

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theres a few bad paladins that didnt max cha at creation that are a little upset here

Rastafire Soulfari
55 Paladin
Human - Rodcet Nife
STR 186
STA 166
AGI 91
DEX 133
WIS 115
INT 102
CHA 119

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[Trelaboon]

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ND sucks. Just get the pally epic. Looks cooler, and most importantly can 2h bash. It’s also not that hard to get even as a casual.

I feel like I’m in the minority in that it was the most annoying epic I’ve done. It wasn’t hard, but really obnoxious.

[jolanar]

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[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rastafire Soulfari
55 Paladin
Human - Rodcet Nife
STR 186
STA 166
AGI 91
DEX 133
WIS 115
INT 102
CHA 119

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sorry you dont got FT2 crown which matters far more than max mana pool hope this helps

my paladin solos rat jail in hole, what does your mid 50s paladin do alone?

[Pint]

Itt velious twinks still not realizing they are bad at eq while bragging about soloing rats in their 50s smh

[Vexenu]

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my paladin solos rat jail in hole, what does your mid 50s paladin do alone?

By all means, tell us more about your solo-optimized Paladin, and the other weird, pointless and outright goofy shit you must be into. Eating cereal with a hammer? Mowing your lawn while walking backwards? Freestyle rapping over Taylor Swift songs?

"brB bros, just watch me solo this rat wit mUh high charisma and mana hat"

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By all means, tell us more about your solo-optimized Paladin, and the other weird, pointless and outright goofy shit you must be into. Eating cereal with a hammer? Mowing your lawn while walking backwards? Freestyle rapping over Taylor Swift songs?

"brB bros, just watch me solo this rat wit mUh high charisma and mana hat"

guy the game is like 25 years old if you're still grouping with 5 shitters in KC you're a fuckin idiot