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Originally Posted by loramin
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Like I keep saying, I know that people charmed in classic! I'm not saying "let's disable charming here"!
But ... charming was harder/riskier on live. As someone who did a lot of it on live, surely you recognize that fact? Or have the rose-tinted glasses of 20 years make you forget all the challenges of it ... or the fact that you had to duo with someone to make it safe (whereas both Druids and Enchanters solo charm with ease here)?
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People have already been over this. The primary reasons charming may have been riskier on live in the classic era are pretty simple: (i) technology and internet connection...things were so laggy back then, you had such long latencies at times that a charm break could easily kill you because it would take you so long to react and get it under control (unlike today where latency is minimal, there's zero lag, and you can instantly stun lock it etc.), (ii) using clickies to eliminate the GCD such that you can chain cast your spells upon charm break (people just didn't really do this back then), and (iii) channeling on P99 is easier than on live but this is a client issue IIRC and not really fixable by P99 (and doesn't just affect Enchanters).
Charm also broke more frequently at times because people simply didn't have the min/maxed strategy down. For example, the amount of Enchanters I met back in the day who didn't think the Tash line was a worthwhile spell except for very high level group content or if you had a much lower level caster in your group. So many people also had no idea that level difference was the biggest saving roll for charm and so they'd go and try and charm mobs like equal to or one level below them; I remember being in groups where the group wanted the Ench to charm the highest level mob possible. So it's not that charm was unreliable, it's that a combo of lack of min/max strategy knowledge and tech issues made it less popular on certain servers during the initial months and years of classic. In my experience, by the time we were into Velious charming was a pretty frequent tactic for soloing (I remember as CSR dealing with a lot of petitions of people complaining about Enchanters burning through mobs in zones via charm soloing and people were getting annoyed about having fewer mobs left for them).
As the other commenter mentioned, outside of the channeling differences charm is just like anything else on this server that doesn't replicate the classic experience: it's that way because we've had 20 years to perfect the technique (plus better internet and computers as I mentioned lol). There's so many things people never did or barely did in classic that are the meta on P99; if you're willing to say all of those things should be prevented then sure we can make up some nerfs to charm too.
06-15-2021, 04:12 PM
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