Training in Veeshan's peak?

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Silikten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Elderan is our delusional member in the red society. Low numbers means 30 people for nihilum.

Every battle we won was with EQUAL or LESSER numbers than nihilum, as we don't have that many members to pull from.

Nihilum is currently suspended from VP for exploiting.

Lol you are a moron..

Name one fight over a boss you won with equal or less numbers.

[Dacuk]

god some of the hypocrisy from nihilum is laughable. trying to play the white knight card when they have had more suspensions/bans from rule breaking than the rest of the red server combined. Lol king downzie nizzar calls people out for boxing when their officer Tune had a character banned for half a year boxing, and they put guild resources to regearing a new char for that scumbag neckbeard as a top priority. Their guildleader gets his toon suspended for training.... list goes on

Elderan - you have such blinders on man its sad. Your indignant attitude is jaw dropping. Yea no shit you win most fights - nilly pretty much have outnumbered and outgeared every opposition since the first month of the server. /played of nihilum as a guild surely represents more than 50% of the /played of the red server as a whole. Doesn't change the fact that you guys have broken more rules than anyone else. more lucky than exploit eh?

[Retti_]

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[NotKringe]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We still kill the dragons in VP despite the training.

However still doesn't make it right.

I would take our 18 best over TMO 18 best any day.

Have them copy us into the arena and lets find out.

This unfortunately happened on LIVE EQ... And being a proponent of pvp and from original RZ, I can safely say other than the original Test of Tactics, we lost every other one.. Afterlife dominated that scene... So careful what ya ask for there bud...

[Llodd]

Who gives a f*** why Nizzar and Nihilum want the change. Time to start looking past your d**** and realise the truth.

[Layne]

Originally Posted by NotKringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Afterlife dominated that scene...

Enjoy reading that

[bigsykedaddy]

Am I the only one who cannot stand Nizzarr's forum badge?

[Clark]

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lol

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are there specific problem areas in VP or just bad pathing in general?

3 months ago(ish), the .path file was updated by Alunova which removed issues we saw present. This file should have been running on the servers for quite a while.

If training was outlawed, which I personally wouldn't mind due to it falling under Exception Incident (Disruption) of Limited CSR zones, I want the pathing to be good.

As Rogean stated here:


It does have the possibility of being changed, regardless of how long it has been enforced.

If people know of problem pathing areas, please report them. Note: VP's .path file is different than 3 months ago. If you haven't been to VP within that time, older issues may not exist anymore.

so now that Alarti's excuse of the zone having bugged pathing being the reason that training has to be allowed is over and done with, what has to be done now before we can remove training from being the normal tactic in this zone? I would argue that it's easier to be trained in hate with current agro and pathing than it is in VP.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's easier to be trained in hate with current agro and pathing than it is in VP.

100%

It is extremely difficult to 'unintentionally' train someone in VP - the aggro radii are extremely small and there are huge gaps between mobs, most of which are safe. Not to mention, unlike fear and hate, the majority of the mobs do not see invis. Maneuvering around VP is actually easier than maneuvering around other high end zones; the difficulty of maneuvering is not so much being subject to 'accidental' trains but the fact that there exist bottlenecks that are difficult or impossible for non-FD classes to get by.

The only pathing issues that may lead to unintended trains have to do with mobs occasionally pathing through walls to return to their normal positions. The extent to which this would happen without intent is suspect, however, because (as far as 'unintentional' training is concerned) it is more or less confined to mobs that are brought to the zone in and taken on or past the portal area or mobs brought down from the balcony through hoshkars lair. If training was not permitted, the need to kite the whole zone would be non-existent seeing as it would be faster to either move the raid force past the few see-invis or simply CoTH to particular safe areas.